Kopfschmerzens:


I don't know of Nigeria, a country with the history and diversity of America, this admin is too white to a fault. We can't also ignore the pre election overly racist comments and all that.

I struggle to even identity the economic plan of this admin, all i see is appeasing the base, starting senseless controversy, twitter fight and racists policies.

I understand appointing Judges with same ideals, but the judiciary watch dog deemed many of the appointees unqualified, couple with the sacking of inspector generals, that wanna institute check and balances to the corruption and lack of ethics of these jokers.

Don't forget he has the right to fire them the question is what is the motive? until that question is answered we can only speculate.

For some of us that voted him in 2016 this is one of the things we regret. that rash attitude to decisions and free rolling unbecoming of the office of the greatest leader of the free world.

Has he disappointed me in some ways? Hell yeah

Why we have a thread on nairaland about this is funny though and americans on similar portals don't care shit about naija elections

Finally, someone with sense

AfonjaBoston:
This is why i cannot stand identity politics.

I am proudly Nigerian and would tell you i have voted both parties up and down the ballot depending on which candidate aligns with my family and business needs.

Followers need to lead by example and pass a strong message to DC politicians that it is not business as usual

I voted Obama in 08 and Trump in 2016 because both preached the "change" game.

I am an undecided voter at this time and it is "my group" of people that will determine who wins in Nov, not these vile hypocritical hate coming from both sides (Repubs and Dems) and yet they accuse/defend the President of same.

Abbeybailey:
You need mental help and you can't afford it in a country where health care is suspect at best. Yours truly is covered by Blue Cross Blue Shield Illinois and in my neck of the wood, that's what we call Cadillac Healthcare courtesy of my job. Your kind die of malaria and typhoid in a country where average lifespan is 53 for male and 54 for female. Poverty makes yours worse too. Any bout of malaria can send you beyond and take you out of your misery.

The only Americana in the world. I throway big yansh for you.
The silent American billionaire.

Come on get off your High horse like someone said earlier Relax!!! It's a faceless forum and chase clouting and audio wealth can become a thing. The Coluka dude is actually making more sense than you. Even though he is also as jobless as you

Coluka you need to also take a chill pill and stop derailing the thread

Why the moderators: OAM4J, Mynd44 have not banned these 2 jokers for derailing the thread with their little ego and useless clout chasing is beyond understanding

AfonjaBoston:
Why we have a thread on nairaland about this is funny though and americans on similar portals don't care shit about naija elections

America is the most powerful country on Earth and their election is very important to the rest of the world. Nigeria is a shithole country and our election is not free and fair but to the highest bidder.

garetz:
The press is going nuts over Donald Trump
taking hydroxychloroquine (prescribed by doctor). Of course, if he’s doing it, they must oppose it.

But the Assoc. of American Physicians & Surgeons says otherwise.

Hydroxychloroquine Has about 90 Percent Chance of Helping COVID-19 Patients

https://aapsonline.org/hcq-90-percent-chance/

By the way, Since when did the media and Democrats start caring about Donald Trump's health? Even crazy Nancy pelosi is now pretending to be concerned about Trump's health? The same slimy bastards that have tried everything to get rid of Trump? If they had a way to kill him themselves, they would immediately do it.

Useless Hypocrites!!!

Trump has finally stopped taking hydroxychloroquine, when will you start taking yours?

Trump says he's no longer taking hydroxychloroquine
https://www.foxnews.com/us/trump-says-hes-no-longer-taking-anti-malaria-drug-hydroxychloroquine

President Trump said that he is no longer on hydroxychloroquine, the anti-malarial drug he has been taking for several weeks as a treatment to ward off the coronavirus.

“Finished, just finished,” Trump told “Full Measure with Sharyl Attkisson” during an interview that aired Sunday on Sinclair Broadcasting. “And by the way, I’m still here. To the best of my knowledge, here I am.”

Last Monday, Trump revealed he had started taking the drug “a couple of weeks ago.”

Davida33:

America is the most powerful country on Earth and their election is very important to the rest of the world. Nigeria is a shithole country and our election is not free and fair but to the highest bidder.

Ok Sir.

The Naija that i am from is not that language you described it. Are there challenges like every other developing nation? of course! America that you are hyping did not transform overnight. There are extremely poor, corrupt and sick people there too.

Will naija get there someday? Yes i believe so but with a lot of work from both citizens like you and leaders.

AfonjaBoston:


Don't forget he has the right to fire them the question is what is the motive?

The fact this book was written and published before the pandemic took hold kind of makes it preemptive and requiring an update. It does not explicitly answer the question you posed but.....

Davida33:

Nigeria is a shithole country and our election is not free and fair but to the highest bidder.

Not a description of the Nigeria I know because that would make Nigerians the shit that lives in holes, and I'm certain you would not agree you are shit.

You've also, in one sentence, show how limited your knowledge of America is and how the winner of elections there is usually the "highest bidder".

budaatum:


The fact this book was written and published before the pandemic took hold kind of makes it preemptive and requiring an update. It does not explicitly answer the question you posed but.....

I haven't seen or read the book but lately i have taken keen interest in knowing who the author is before i even try to read.
There is so much bias everywhere.

AfonjaBoston:


There is so much bias everywhere.

Of course there is bias. But there's no harm in facts unless one thinks made up 'facts' are the equal of verifiable evidence based one's.

budaatum:

Of course there is bias. But there's no harm in facts unless one thinks made up 'facts' are the equal of verifiable evidence based one's.

The political system is so toxic i have learnt to always scrutinize the messenger first before i even hear the message unless of course it's coming from " experts"

IF Biden wins the election watch how Dems will go back to doing the things they fought the Repubs against and watch how the same Repubs will fight against Dems on issues they supported DT.

Its a hilarious circus show in Washington

AfonjaBoston:


The political system is so toxic i have learnt to always scrutinize the messenger first before i even hear the message unless of course it's coming from " experts"

Sounds to me like judging a book by it's cover, or, author, in your case, whereby a messenger could make you not even bother considering the message, while some would want to know what the message might be, regardless, because they are more than capable of separating wheat from dross.

Anyway, here's a short version of the book. A person who spends so much time tweeting and watching Fox News would make me wonder if they are spending enough time doing their job, especially if performance on said job is unastounding or very abysmal.

budaatum:

Sounds to me like judging a book by it's cover, or, author, in your case, whereby a messenger could make you not even bother considering the message, while some would want to know what the message might be, regardless, because they are more than capable of separating wheat from dross.

Anyway, here's a short version of the book. A person who spends so much time tweeting and watching Fox News would make me wonder if they are spending enough time doing their job, especially if performance on said job is unastounding or very abysmal.

I will reiterate i am an undecided voter and this is why.
There is so much rhetoric coming from both sides . Dems accusing Repubs of being fixated on fox news while they will vehemently disagree they are also fed by CNN.

Liberal media promotes books and guests that are antagonistic of DT while fox news does the reverse.

You know where i get my facts from in making my decisions? I pull data of what the contestants has said in the past and juxtapose with their actions while in office.
I also pull reports from legit non-partisan watchdogs and i also check my own life and family. Have we made any significant progress based off policies formulated by the govt.

Facts just like truths are relative! Researchers and politicians do it all the time. The only thing that is sure is absolute truth.
If not for the pandemic DT would have had strolled without sweat to winning a 2nd term.

The economy was solid based off reports but a lot of people will also tell you it was so based off Obama's work and that he did great too in his first term

Different folks different argument. He can watch fox news all day and tweet it's not a crime. The President is not the foot on ground his advisors and pplivies are.

Actually the less i see a President on tv the more relaxed i am lol my opinion

That is one aspect i don't agree with DT he comes off as bullish, childish and immature when he is tweeting but his supporters will tell you he is not politically correct and its a normal way of life to react when you been accused

AfonjaBoston:


Facts just like truths are relative! Researchers and politicians do it all the time. The only thing that is sure is absolute truth.

We unfortunately do not make decisions based on "absolute truths", since there's no such thing when it comes to politicians. We can't after all know for certain who would be the better president until we see them be president.

In most instances truth and facts are not relative. What is relative is what one believes or not, but that does not change the facts, which intelligent people can't get enough of so they don't go believing untruths.

AfonjaBoston:


The economy was solid based off reports but a lot of people will also tell you it was so based off Obama's work and that he did great too in his first term.

The evidence does suggest the economy had been growing since Obama. The evidence even suggests it was growing faster under Obama than under Trump. But we all can see for ourselves where the economy is at if we bother to look.

Below is a chart showing the economy was screwed up on Obama's watch (if all facts and truths are equal, that is). If it were left to me, I'd take him to the bottom of the river and shoot him.

budaatum:

The evidence does suggest the economy had been growing since Obama. The evidence even suggests it was growing faster under Obama than under Trump. But we all can see for ourselves where the economy is at if we bother to look.

Below is a chart showing the economy was screwed up on Obama's watch (if all facts and truths are equal, that is). If it were left to me, I'd take him to the bottom of the river and shoot him.

So which one are you believing? The evidence as you said or the alternate fact? Lol
Where is the link to the said report?

AfonjaBoston:


I will reiterate i am an undecided voter and this is why.
There is so much rhetoric coming from both sides . Dems accusing Repubs of being fixated on fox news while they will vehemently disagree they are also fed by CNN.

Liberal media promotes books and guests that are antagonistic of DT while fox news does the reverse.

You know where i get my facts from in making my decisions? I pull data of what the contestants has said in the past and juxtapose with their actions while in office.
I also pull reports from legit non-partisan watchdogs and i also check my own life and family. Have we made any significant progress based off policies formulated by the govt.

Facts just like truths are relative! Researchers and politicians do it all the time. The only thing that is sure is absolute truth.
If not for the pandemic DT would have had strolled without sweat to winning a 2nd term.

The economy was solid based off reports but a lot of people will also tell you it was so based off Obama's work and that he did great too in his first term

Different folks different argument. He can watch fox news all day and tweet it's not a crime. The President is not the foot on ground his advisors and pplivies are.

Actually the less i see a President on tv the more relaxed i am lol my opinion

That is one aspect i don't agree with DT he comes off as bullish, childish and immature when he is tweeting but his supporters will tell you he is not politically correct and its a normal way of life to react when you been accused

America was at the precipice of depression when Obama came in on Jan 20, 2019 because towards the end of Bush Jnr tenure, America was losing an average of 700. 000 jobs monthly and all the Blue Chips companies were going belly up. The three major car manufacturers were about to go bankrupt. Thanks to Obama who righted everything and for 8 consecutive years the economy was booming and we gained over 14 million jobs. Compared that to now with 40 million Americans filling for unemployment benefits and many millions more on the queue. Almost 20% unemployment rate and and will probably go up. Almost 100.000 Americans dead and sadly many more to die while the president was golfing on memorial day weekend. No visit from trump to Arlington National cemetery. One thing Americans answers to every election is ARE WE BETTER OFF NOW THAN FOUR YEARS AGO ?. That's the decider for me not to talk about how many ugly things that Trump vomitted out of his mouth or childish behavior. I will vote for a Dog over an avowed Nazi loving President.

Abbeybailey:
America was at the precipice of depression when Obama came in on Jan 20, 2018 because towards the end of Bush Jnr tenure, America was losing an average of 700. 000 jobs monthly and all the Blue Chips companies were going belly up. The three major car manufacturers were about to go bankrupt. Thanks to Obama who righted everything and for 8 consecutive years the economy was booming and we gained over 14 million jobs. Compared that to now with 40 million Americans filling for unemployment benefits and many millions more on the queue. Almost 20% unemployment rate and and will probably go up. Almost 100.000 Americans dead and sadly many more to die while the president was golfing on memorial day weekend. No visit from trump to Arlington National cemetery. One thing Americans answers to every election is ARE WE BETTER OFF NOW THAN FOUR YEARS AGO ?. That's the decider for me not to talk about how many ugly things that Trump vomitted out of his mouth or childish behavior. I will vote for a Dog over an avowed Nazi loving President.

The bolded must have been a typo.
Yes Obama did great in his first term compared to his second.

Deep down inside you do you think the polls will be in favor of Biden if there was no coronavirus?

I will not be surprised if i mean if Biden wins and Repubs starting crying foul that China influenced the election

Its monkey chop babana matter from both sides

AfonjaBoston:


The bolded must have been a typo.
Yes Obama did great in his first term compared to his second.

Deep down inside you do you think the polls will be in favor of Biden if there was no coronavirus?

I will not be surprised if i mean if Biden wins and Repubs starting crying foul that China influenced the election

Tell me what Obama did wrong in his second term. You didn't even address the main issues I posted to you. Bush Snr messed up the economy and Clinton cleaned that up the same way FDR cleaned up Herbert Hoover mess up in the 30s. Do you see the pattern of Democratic Presidents cleaning up the Republican presidents mess. Are you telling me America was not close depression in the later part of George Bush presidency due to Iraq and Afghanistan wars ?. Common be serious.

budaatum:

Not a description of the Nigeria I know because that would make Nigerians the shit that lives in holes, and I'm certain you would not agree you are shit.

You've also, in one sentence, show how limited your knowledge of America is and how the winner of elections there is usually the "highest bidder".

Nigeria politicians are the shit that lives in holes not the citizens and it's so sad that they have run this country down. I also blame the Citizens for supporting this politicians, our leaders have no heart. We are the world poverty capital and yet our politicians are the richest in the world due to corruption.

Abbeybailey:
America was at the precipice of depression when Obama came in on Jan 20, 2019 because towards the end of Bush Jnr tenure . . .

Still incorrect

Davida33:

Nigeria politicians are the shit that lives in holes not the citizens and it's so sad that they have run this country down. I also blame the Citizens for supporting this politicians, our leaders have no heart. We are the world poverty capital and yet our politicians are the richest in the world due to corruption.

I agree 100% with you. Bloody revolution is needed to wipe away the maggots infested Thieflicians for Nigeria to move up in the comity of Nations.

Abbeybailey:
Tell me what Obama did wrong in his second term. You didn't even address the main issues I posted to you. Bush Snr messed up the economy and Clinton cleaned that up the same way FDR cleaned up Herbert Hoover mess up in the 30s. Do you see the pattern of Democratic Presidents cleaning up the Republican presidents mess. Are you telling me America was not close depression in the later part of George Bush presidency due to Iraq and Afghanistan wars ?. Common be serious.

I quite agree absolutely that Americans trust Dems on the economy than Repubs just so you know i was a Republican but changed to an independent in 08

I agree with alot of what you say but Washington needs a change agent. I would have been a champion for someone like Bernie

AfonjaBoston:


Still incorrect

Was America losing 600.000 to 700.000 jobs monthly and Dow Jones and NASDAQ were calling like Chicago snow.

Abbeybailey:
I agree 100% with you. Bloody revolution is needed to wipe away the maggots infested Thieflicians for Nigeria to move up in the comity of Nations.

Now i absolutely agree with you. Badmouthing Nigeria will not solve the problem because we are dual citizens.

I see naija as my first home and USA my second but despite all the problems in naija i will never kill my home country with my own words

Abbeybailey:
Was America losing 600.000 to 700.000 jobs monthly and Dow Jones and NASDAQ were calling like Chicago snow.

Not talking about the job losses but the timeline you said Obama came in.

Obama was not the President in 2019

AfonjaBoston:


I quite agree absolutely that Americans trust Dems on the economy than Repubs just so you know i was a Republican but changed to an independent in 08

I agree with alot of what you say but Washington needs a change agent. I would have been a champion for someone like Bernie

Even with Fox News poll that just came out, Independents are deserting Trump. Who wants to be part of this tragedy except Nazi, Klans and the hate filled Appalachians and Confederate loving Southerners.

Davida33:

Nigeria politicians are the shit that lives in holes not the citizens and it's so sad that they have run this country down. I also blame the Citizens for supporting this politicians, our leaders have no heart. We are the world poverty capital and yet our politicians are the richest in the world due to corruption.

Lol you did not say that in your first write-up. You flat out called the entire country that which is not fair at all.
I beg to vehemently disagree

AfonjaBoston:


Not talking about the job losses but the timeline you said Obama came in.

Obama was not the President in 2019

That's A typo. Obama was in 2009. The key question is that America was losing 6 to 700.000 monthly. I know that damn well because I was in the midst of it and i lost over 80% of my portfolio and thank God for Obama. I got everything back and some more.

Abbeybailey:
Even with Fox News poll that just came out, Independents are deserting Trump. Who wants to be part of this tragedy except Nazi, Klans the hate filled Appalachians and Confederate loving Southerners.

Same independents and millenials that gifted him the victory in 16?

That's the group that will decide not the noise from the left and right

I dont really watch the news can you send the said poll result?