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Benevento:
I thought everywhere in igboland is like New York times square.

Sebi una talk say nah standard buildings occupy 99% of igboland....hahahaha.

Below is Enugu from Google map, thought Brown roofs is zero in igboland..

Poverty is everywhere in Africa, in fact, it's everywhere all over the world.

It looks like any poor area you'd fine anywhere else in the world. Nothing like the slums in Ibadan or in Kano or other parts of Nigeria. You can see the homes are at least organized into plots, with streets and roads.

That aside, everyone knows what Igboland looks like, there are literally thousands of pictures of the place on Nairaland. It's the other parts of Nigeria that like to conceal their lands...for obvious reasons.

Twistaray:
Oga , anambra is even better, goan check the number of businesses that pay taxes in lagos, it's not more than 20000. Now, tell me, how come lagos generate more igr than the whole of SE combine? And who also told you that it's every household or businesses that pay tax in SW yet they beat your alaigbo paradise, right?

Nonsense.

Most of the money generated in Lagos comes from multinationals, MDAs, public sector and PAYE (which you pointed out). The fact that PAYE is relatively low, is irrelevant in the case of Lagos.

IGR doesn't mean anything. The sustainability of the state is determined by its expenditure to income, but state development is determined by the private sector. That's how all nations develop to first world status. Not from government initiatives, but from people initiatives.

That's why poverty is heavily correlated with education. Humans need education to setup businesses. Igbo people are the most educated, that's why you'll find, in Igboland, indigenous industries, manufacturing cars, plastics, foodstuff, computers, clothes etc... You won't find people in Sokoto manufacturing cars; simply because the populace lacks the knowhow.

Likewise in SW, you won't find the equivalent of Zinox anywhere in that land.

Let's keep it to the SW, excluding Lagos, which has nothing whatsoever to do the with SW.

rdokoye:
Most of the money generated in Lagos comes from multinationals, MDAs, public sector and PAYE (which you pointed out). The fact that PAYE is relatively low, is irrelevant in the case of Lagos.

IGR doesn't mean anything. The sustainability of the state is determined by its expenditure to income, but state development is determined by the private sector. That's how all nations develop to first world status. Not from government initiatives, but from people initiatives.

That's why poverty is heavily correlated with education. Humans need education to setup businesses. Igbo people are the most educated, that's why you'll find, in Igboland, indigenous industries, manufacturing cars, plastics, foodstuff, computers, clothes etc... You won't find people in Sokoto manufacturing cars; simply because the populace lacks the knowhow.

Likewise in SW, you won't find the equivalent of Zinox anywhere in that land.

Let's keep it to the SW, excluding Lagos, which has nothing whatsoever to do the with SW.

Below, is how Lagos igr is generated.
The bolded doesn't make sense at all. Education is a choice we have thousand and thousands of ariticians in the SW who barely could read or write but are doing well financially, I know a lot of them.

We have farmers who have little or no formal education that are doing well. This is common sense and this shouldn't be coming from you because sound educated and learned.

Mind you, there are thousands of graduates out there, jobless and earns little to nothing. if we are to go by your logic then it means those market women with little or not education are poor too?

This is getting funny.

Twistaray:
Below, is how Lagos igr is generated.
The bolded doesn't make sense at all. Education is a choice we have thousand and thousands of ariticians in the SW who barely could read or write but are doing well financially, I know a lot of them.

We have farmers who have little or no formal education that are doing well. This is common sense and this shouldn't be coming from you because sound educated and learned.

Mind you, there are thousands of graduates out there, jobless and earns little to nothing. if we are to go by your logic then it means those market women with little or not education are poor too?

This is getting funny.

PAYE revenue is primarily from multinationals, based on the evidence that only a small fraction (3%) of people within the state are actually paying tax.

Education is a choice? What does that mean? Education is the key to poverty alleviation - that's not my opinion. Statistics all over the world, show that educated people, make more money than uneducated people. People with graduate degrees, make more money than people without graduate degrees. People with Postgraduate degrees, make more money than people with graduate degrees. These are known facts.

Are you really going to compare a farmer to Innoson? A man who owns and runs a conglomeration of companies and employs thousands of Anamabraians? Who do you think is better off, the Ekiti farmer, or the mechanic working in one of Innoson's car plants? There's a reason migration patterns are from the rural to urban communities, and not the other way round.

Lack of access to education is a major predictor of passing poverty from one generation to the next, and receiving an education is one of the top ways to achieve financial stability.

https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/poverty-education-satistics-facts/

Access to high-quality primary education and supporting child well-being is a globally-recognized solution to the cycle of poverty. This is, in part, because it also addresses many of the other issues can keep communities vulnerable.

https://www.concernusa.org/story/how-education-affects-poverty/

Guangxi, one of the major battlefields in China's poverty alleviation campaign, has been making painstaking efforts to improve education for poverty-stricken children, as schooling is believed to be the best way to empower the youngsters to lift their families out of poverty.

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-06/01/c_139104491.htm

rdokoye:
PAYE revenue is primarily from multinationals, based on the evidence that only a small fraction (3%) of people within the state are actually paying tax.

Education is a choice? What does that mean? Education is the key to poverty alleviation - that's not my opinion. Statistics all over the world, show that educated people, make more money than uneducated people. People with graduate degrees, make more money than people without graduate degrees. People with Postgraduate degrees, make more money than people with graduate degrees. These are known facts.

Are you really going to compare a farmer to Innoson? A man who owns and runs a conglomeration of companies and employs thousands of Anamabraians? Who do you think is better off, the Ekiti farmer, or the mechanic working in one of Innoson's car plants? There's a reason migration patterns are from the rural to urban communities, and not the other way round.


https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/poverty-education-satistics-facts/


https://www.concernusa.org/story/how-education-affects-poverty/


http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-06/01/c_139104491.htm

Lool

This should help you ;

[/b]Below is how Lagos get her revenue:
PAYE (45%):
Pay As You Earn (PAYE) is a form of personal income tax that refers to tax deducted directly from the wages and salaries of employees operating in the formal sector.

Other Taxes (19.27%):
These include various taxe such as levies on market traders, land registration and other landrelated fees, as well as development levies on individuals, pool betting/lottery/gaming fees and stamp duties on individuals.

Direct Assessment (2.39%):
Direct assessment relates to those taxes imposed on businesses, especially (informal) by the State authorities, based on the size of their activities.

Road Tax (2.48%):
Road taxes are daily levies paid by commercial transporters operating within Lagos.



Source: https://yourbudgit.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/LAGOS-STATE-DATA-BOOK.pdf

Now, taken it further, you should understand what I meant by education is a choice when it comes to poverty alleviation and or the choice we made to generate wealth hence, while I quoted the formers and the market women that have little or not education yet they build houses and doing well financially.

So, yes, I repeat, when it comes to choice of wealth generation it's unwise to assume or say without education people can not generate wealth, isn't that what you said?

Twistaray:
Lool

This should help you ;




Now, taken it further, you should understand what I meant by education is a choice when it comes to poverty alleviation and or the choice we made to generate wealth hence, while I quoted the formers and the market women that have little or not education yet they build houses and doing well financially.

So, yes, I repeat, when it comes to choice of wealth generation it's unwise to assume or say without education people can not generate wealth, isn't that what you said?

What point are you trying to make with that illustration. Doesn't PAYE come under multinationals? Are not individuals who work for Microsoft, Google, McDonalds, Nestlé, Lafarge Cement, MTN, Airtel, IBM etc, part of the formal sector? Most of the money generated in Lagos, comes from multinationals, and you've presented the evidence to prove it.

I never said without education people cannot generate wealth. If that were the case, then human beings would have died out a long time ago. All economies start off as agrarian, because education is not required to work on a farm. Farm work is menial, requiring mainly physical labour. However, farmers, or farm workers tend to be LOW PAID. You're not going to find very many rich farm workers.

Contrast that with someone who works at one of Innoson's car plants, as a previously proffered. Who do you think would be better off?

You don't know any farmer that's well off. So stop lying.

rdokoye:
What point are you trying to make with that illustration. Doesn't PAYE come under multinationals? Are not individuals who work for Microsoft, Google, McDonalds, Nestlé, Lafarge Cement, MTN, Airtel, IBM etc, part of the formal sector? Most of the money generated in Lagos, comes from multinationals, and you've presented the evidence to prove it.

I never said without education people cannot generate wealth. If that were the case, then human beings would have died out a long time ago. All economies start off as agrarian, because education is not required to work on a farm. Farm work is menial, requiring mainly physical labour. However, farmers, or farm workers tend to be LOW PAID. You're not going to find very many rich farm workers.

Contrast that with someone who works at one of Innoson's car plants, as a previously proffered. Who do you think would be better off?

You don't know any farmer that's well off. So stop lying.

This is your quote ,first ;

IGR doesn't mean anything. The sustainability of the state is determined by its expenditure to income, but state development is determined by the private sector.

Now, take a look at how you managed to contradict yourself, below :

Doesn't PAYE come under multinationals? Are not individuals who work for Microsoft, Google, McDonalds, Nestlé, Lafarge Cement, MTN, Airtel, IBM etc, part of the formal sector? Most of the money generated in Lagos, comes from multinationals, and you've presented the evidence to prove it

And oops, you did, below ;

I never said without education people cannot generate wealth.

Education is a choice? What does that mean? Education is the key to poverty alleviation -

Note ; I did not argue the statement you made above I only pointed out that its doesn't make sense to assume that people without education are often poor.


And no, most of the igr comes form the civil servants.

Lool

Twistaray:
This is your quote ,first ;



Now, take a look at how you managed to contradict yourself, below :





And oops, you did, below ;






Note ; I did not argue the statement you made above I only pointed out that its doesn't make sense to assume that people without education are often poor.


And no, most of the igr comes form the civil servants.

Lool

This is an issue of understanding. Your inference is incorrect. Nigeria is relatively inefficient when it comes to taxation. Taxation in Anambra is less than 10%. I'm not so sure about Lagos, because the statistics are all over the place. But studies have shown that Lagos has the most efficient taxation system in the country. However, monies generated from multinationals, under corporate tax and PAYE, is where most of the states IGR comes from. This is also the case in Ogun State, which is an adjacent state. As many multinationals have opted to set up industries there, as opposed to Lagos island, due to cost and convenience. https://www.ft.com/content/9d563472-c727-11e8-86e6-19f5b7134d1c

I don't believe every single person without an education is poor, but the vast majority, yes. You'd be hard pressed to find a person well-off, who can't read or write.

That said, you're not making any argument. You're simply reacting. We weren't discussing weather or not every single illiterate was poor. We were, or rather, I was discussing the correlation between education and poverty. How can the most educated people be amongst the poorest. This defies what the entire world knows and understands about poverty.

rdokoye:
This is an issue of understanding. Your inference is incorrect. Nigeria is relatively inefficient when it comes to taxation. Taxation in Anambra is less than 10%. I'm not so sure about Lagos, because the statistics are all over the place. But studies have shown that Lagos has the most efficient taxation system in the country. However, monies generated from multinationals, under corporate tax and PAYE, is where most of the states IGR comes from. This is also the case in Ogun State, which is an adjacent state. As many multinationals have opted to set up industries there, as opposed to Lagos island, due to cost and convenience. https://www.ft.com/content/9d563472-c727-11e8-86e6-19f5b7134d1c

I don't believe every single person without an education is poor, but the vast majority, yes. You'd be hard pressed to find a person well-off, who can't read or write.

That said, you're not making any argument. You're simply reacting. We weren't discussing weather or not every single illiterate was poor. We were, or rather, I was discussing the correlation between education and poverty. How can the most educated people be amongst the poorest. This defies what the entire world knows and understands about poverty.

I will quote you words for words as it seems you are either missing the point here or forget what triggered this argument in the first place ;


Below are some of your quotes ;

South-East governors have a vested interest in keeping tax low, because unlike in other parts of Nigeria. Igboland actually has a private sector.

And when I ask you why the above case is so, or why SE igr is the lowest in the whole of the south, below is what you provided ;

Less than 10% of Anambra people pay tax: https://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/ssouth-east/356057-only-300000-people-pay-taxes-in-anambra-commissioner.html

Obiano freezes all tax, to cushion the effects of the recession on SMEs in the state: https://nairametrics.com/2016/09/21/anambra-state-eases-tax-burden-on-grassroot-citizens/

Note ; the above links only didn't state SE but Anambra.

So, the question is, what happened to the rest of SE states, why is their igr low as well?



Again ;

Igbo people are the most educated, that's why you'll find, in Igboland, indigenous industries, manufacturing cars, plastics, foodstuff, computers, clothes etc... You won't find people in Sokoto manufacturing cars; simply because the populace lacks the knowhow.

And I was wondering as well, where you got thr above from, how you come about, and how anambra is equaled to the whole of the SE.

Most of your facts are orally base and assumption and that's why you try to prove yourself using logic without facts or figures. You've rather choose to dwell on hearsays.
And yes, Ibandan, Ondo with thr largest browntoofs (according to you) and less industries generates more igr than lmo state, Ebonyi...from the region with the most industries (according to you) where tax reduction wasn't included in your link.

rdokoye:
PAYE revenue is primarily from multinationals, based on the evidence that only a small fraction (3%) of people within the state are actually paying tax.

Education is a choice? What does that mean? Education is the key to poverty alleviation - that's not my opinion. Statistics all over the world, show that educated people, make more money than uneducated people. People with graduate degrees, make more money than people without graduate degrees. People with Postgraduate degrees, make more money than people with graduate degrees. These are known facts.

Are you really going to compare a farmer to Innoson? A man who owns and runs a conglomeration of companies and employs thousands of Anamabraians? Who do you think is better off, the Ekiti farmer, or the mechanic working in one of Innoson's car plants? There's a reason migration patterns are from the rural to urban communities, and not the other way round.


https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/poverty-education-satistics-facts/


https://www.concernusa.org/story/how-education-affects-poverty/


http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-06/01/c_139104491.htm

The bolded showed you don't even understand the meaning of PAYE.

PAYE is generated from people in the formal sector both public and private. The civil service in Lagos are taxed directly from their salaries and that is reflected in PAYE.

Salewa97:
The bolded showed you don't even understand the meaning of PAYE.

PAYE is generated from people in the formal sector both public and private. The civil service in Lagos is taxed directly from their salaries and that is reflected in PAYE.

The dude is full of contradictions. . I also notice he lies a lot.

Salewa97:
The bolded showed you don't even understand the meaning of PAYE.

PAYE is generated from people in the formal sector both public and private. The civil service in Lagos are taxed directly from their salaries and that is reflected in PAYE.

I understand the meaning of PAYE, I'm referring to PROPORTION. Now go back and read it again. I'm not saying PAYE is solely from multinationals, I'm saying the bulk of the money generated through PAYE is due to multinationals.

And your only argument would be, that it can't be substantiated.

Twistaray:
The dude is full of contractions. . I also notice he lies a lot.

I never lie - unlike you.

Twistaray:
I will quote you words for words as it seems you are either missing the point here or forget what triggered this argument in the first place ;


Below are some of your quotes ;



And when I ask you why the above case is so, or why SE igr is the lowest in the whole of the south, below is what you provided ;



Note ; the above links only didn't state SE but Anambra.

So, the question is, what happened to the rest of SE states, why is their igr low as well?



Again ;



And I was wondering as well, where you got thr above from, how you come about, and how anambra is equaled to the whole of the SE.

Most of your facts are orally base and assumption and that's why you try to prove yourself using logic without facts or figures. You've rather choose to dwell on hearsays.
And yes, Ibandan, Ondo with thr largest browntoofs (according to you) and less industries generates more igr than lmo state, Ebonyi...from the region with the most industries (according to you) where tax reduction wasn't included in your link.

You didn't write this:

Twistaray:
And when I ask you why the above case is so, or why SE igr is the lowest in the whole of the south, below is what you provided ;

You actually wrote was this:

Twistaray:
Oga , anambra is even better, goan check the number of businesses that pay taxes in lagos, it's not more than 20000. Now, tell me, how come lagos generate more igr than the whole of SE combine? And who also told you that it's every household or businesses that pay tax in SW yet they beat your alaigbo paradise, right?

Nonsense.

and I responded to that statement with this:

rdokoye:
Most of the money generated in Lagos comes from multinationals, MDAs, public sector and PAYE (which you pointed out). The fact that PAYE is relatively low, is irrelevant in the case of Lagos.

IGR doesn't mean anything. The sustainability of the state is determined by its expenditure to income, but state development is determined by the private sector. That's how all nations develop to first world status. Not from government initiatives, but from people initiatives.

That's why poverty is heavily correlated with education. Humans need education to setup businesses. Igbo people are the most educated, that's why you'll find, in Igboland, indigenous industries, manufacturing cars, plastics, foodstuff, computers, clothes etc... You won't find people in Sokoto manufacturing cars; simply because the populace lacks the knowhow.

Likewise in SW, you won't find the equivalent of Zinox anywhere in that land.

Let's keep it to the SW, excluding Lagos, which has nothing whatsoever to do the with SW.

So who's lying?

Innoson can be substantiated. So can the many products manufactured in Anambra. Zinox can be substantiated, so can Witchtech group. You can find a general list of some of the indigenous companies in and around Igboland here: https://www.nairaland.com/3926379/igbos-most-industrious-innovative-richest

You're argument that a Ekiti farmer can be better off than a computer engineer working at Zinox, or a mechanic working at Innoson group is preposterous. You can lie to yourself for the rest of your life - but it'll never make your lies true.

rdokoye:
You didn't write this:



You actually wrote was this:



and I responded to that statement with this:



So who's lying?

Innoson can be substantiated. So can the many products manufactured in Anambra. Zinox can be substantiated, so can Witchtech group. You can find a general list of some of the indigenous companies in and around Igboland here: https://www.nairaland.com/3926379/igbos-most-industrious-innovative-richest

You're argument that a Ekiti farmer can be better off than a computer engineer working at Zinox, or a mechanic working at Innoson group is preposterous. You can lie to yourself for the rest of your life - but it'll never make your lies true.

My guy relax.
I used lagos an example as I am aware the SW igr excluding lagos still remain higher than the whole SE. So, I am wondering how that came to be?

You were so quick to quote or assumed that anambra, is that representing the whole of SE? Really?

What's imo known for, what's ebony know for,what's industries is enugu known for?

Yes, you lied because my question wasn't about a state but the whole region, SE precisely. For, what's the entirely workforce of these few companies you mentioned above, what are their workforce to equals them to the whole of SE? Like I said, you are full of assumptions you keep quoting anambra as the whole of the SE.

Here, the number of employments, unemployment, etc representing each region.
Below

See? I work with facts while you conjure figures from your head.

I deal with facts dude.

Below is the recent stats link
National Bureau of Statistics
Labor Force Statistics - Volume 2: Unemployment and Underemployment by State (Q3 2018)
https://nigerianstat.gov.ng/elibrary

I hate oral stats. I deal with facts.

BlowYourMind:
How many times are we going to tell you that these people don't need palliatives, they are doing fine in South Africa and Alaba scamming

ofe oil

Twistaray:
My guy relax.
I used lagos an example as I am aware the SW igr excluding lagos still remain higher than the whole SE. So, I am wondering how that came to be?

You were so quick to quote or assumed that anambra, is that representing the whole of SE? Really?

What's imo known for, what's ebony know for,what's industries is enugu known for?

Yes, you lied because my question wasn't about a state but the whole region, SE precisely. For, what's the entirely workforce of these few companies you mentioned above, what are their workforce to equals them to the whole of SE? Like I said, you are full of assumptions you keep quoting anambra as the whole of the SE.

Here, the number of employments, unemployment, etc representing each region.
Below

See? I work with facts while you conjure figures from your head.

I deal with facts dude.



I hate oral stats. I deal with facts.

Those so-called employment stats are 3 years out of date, and they look like extrapolations.

What is your point. Why are you quoting those stats. Make your argument clear.

From what I'm seeing, it doesn't in any way refute my argument, that IGR from Lagos, is primarily due to multinationals, which is also the case with Ogun State.

Enugu IGR is actually larger than Anamabra, and that's due to improved taxation. Ebonyi is known for agriculture, being the leading producer of rice, yam, potatoes, maize, beans, and cassava in Nigeria. Abia is known for industries, along with Anambra. Enugu and Imo is hospitality, although both states also have many indigenous companies and some industries.

What exactly is Ekiti known for or Ogun State? Or Oyo? Do Yoruba people make anything? Where's your Innoson equivalent or your cement companies? Do you guys process any foods? What food brands, cosmetic companies, aftershave companies do you have? I know Lafarge Cement operates in Ogun, which is a French company, along with numerous Chinese companies. But what do you guys do, besides talk?

rdokoye:
Those so-called employment stats are 3 years out of date, and they look like extrapolations.

What is your point. Why are you quoting those stats. Make your argument clear.

From what I'm seeing, it doesn't in any way refute my argument, that IGR from Lagos, is primarily due to multinationals, which is also the case with Ogun State.

Enugu IGR is actually larger than Anamabra, and that's due to improved taxation. Ebonyi is known for agriculture, being the leading producer of rice, yam, potatoes, maize, beans, and cassava in Nigeria. Abia is known for industries, along with Anambra. Enugu and Imo is hospitality, although both states also have many indigenous companies and some industries.

What exactly is Ekiti known for or Ogun State? Or Oyo? Do Yoruba people make anything? Where's your Innoson equivalent or your cement companies? Do you guys process any foods? What food brands, cosmetic companies, aftershave companies do you have? I know Lafarge Cement operates in Ogun, which is a French company, along with numerous Chinese companies. But what do you guys do, besides talk?

A table should be provided for the emboldened and well, maybe yes, but shall we see the impact on that Ebonyi's igr or poverty index since you were so quick to play down on Ekiti in that regards, agriculture wise? .

Here is the recent stats so far as far as employment snd unemployment is concerning, but except you have another or recent one you want to provide?


Here ;

Below is the recent stats link
National Bureau of Statistics
Labor Force Statistics - Volume 2: Unemployment and Underemployment by State (Q3 2018)
https://nigerianstat.gov.ng/elibrary


Now, talking about the igr my bone of contention is basically, the incompetence of the SE to generate enough igr hence my exclusion of Lagos.

rdokoye:
Those so-called employment stats are 3 years out of date, and they look like extrapolations.

What is your point. Why are you quoting those stats. Make your argument clear.

Ok, let me refresh your memory ;

Below, the screen shot was what trigger this argument. See?

Then I asked you while SE igr is low;

This was your reply ;

Less than 10% of Anambra people pay tax: https://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/ssouth-east/356057-only-300000-people-pay-taxes-in-anambra-commissioner.html

Obiano freezes all tax, to cushion the effects of the recession on SMEs in the state: https://nairametrics.com/2016/09/21/anambra-state-eases-tax-burden-on-grassroot-citizens/

Your first statement below , please!

rdokoye:
IGR is not a contribution, it's internally generrated, hence the acrynum.

South-East governors have a vested interest in keeping tax low, because unlike in other parts of Nigeria. Igboland actually has a private sector.

Then I asked or pointed you out for your deviation or to prove the above...with this ;

You were so quick to quote or assumed that Anambra, is Anambra now representing the whole of SE? Really?

But instead of going straight to the point, this was your response to that, below ;

ABSOLUTELY, ZERO ANSWER!

So, in a nutshell, you did not only failed but you cunningly skipped or fail to answer my question.

And then, you claimed Alaigbo is the almighty this and that, economically yet you couldn't provide a backup stats for that. But I see by providing a stats to call you out only to claim they are not recent stats. Who does that? Am I suppose to use none exist one?

I hate liars.

rdokoye:
Poverty is everywhere in Africa, in fact, it's everywhere all over the world.

It looks like any poor area you'd fine anywhere else in the world. Nothing like the slums in Ibadan or in Kano or other parts of Nigeria. You can see the homes are at least organized into plots, with streets and roads.

That aside, everyone knows what Igboland looks like, there are literally thousands of pictures of the place on Nairaland. It's the other parts of Nigeria that like to conceal their lands...for obvious reasons.

Stupidity is when you think the good part in Enugu cannot be found in other states, even that poor Sokoto state.

Tell me, which state capital doesn't have good parts? even Gusau, Gombe.

Below is the slums in Enugu just as you will find them in other states.

Can you see your Onitsha recreational club in the slum?

So there are no private sector in other parts of Nigeria except in the S/East and the private sector can not be taxed?

So almost all the 6 million people in Edo State are Government workers?

rdokoye:
IGR is not a contribution, it's internally generrated, hence the acrynum.

South-East governors have a vested interest in keeping tax low, because unlike in other parts of Nigeria. Igboland actually has a private sector.

Bros ,I don't think you fully understand the concepts.


1) Poverty rates measures the percentage of ALL the people in each State living below a predetermined benchmark, it doesn't measure the percentage of wealthy people.


2) Low poverty rate in a State does NOT mean the State has high percentage of wealthy people.


3) Wealth is NOT the direct opposite of poverty on this scale as there are many stages in between the two extremes.

A resident of Kogi State above the poverty line doesn't mean he is wealthy.

4) States and NOT necessarily tribes are the research areas.

mrvitalis:
Lol but it's stats still dropped .....you can justify this any how u want ...ekiti better than anambra ? Lamo or imo ?

Mathematics and stats don't lie because u can't manipulate it without it being obvious

Who says 87% of poor people in Nigeria are in the north ...yet u say 42 percentage of South East is poor ? ...but can't equate

The poverty index has nothing to do with what you are saying.

Even if you remove Lagos from the S/West, two other S/Western States are still within the first ten States.

The poverty index is highest in the N/West, followed by N/E, followed by the NC, then S/E, then SS and then SW.


Instead of you guys to properly study the Statistics, you are fixated with unnecessarily contest with the S/West.

Even people from other parts of Nigeria don't dispute these Statistics except people from the S/E.

If you doubt the accuracy of the Statistics, then publish your own that you think is correct based on standardized methods.

rdokoye:
Most of the money generated in Lagos comes from multinationals, MDAs, public sector and PAYE (which you pointed out). The fact that PAYE is relatively low, is irrelevant in the case of Lagos.

IGR doesn't mean anything. The sustainability of the state is determined by its expenditure to income, but state development is determined by the private sector. That's how all nations develop to first world status. Not from government initiatives, but from people initiatives.

That's why poverty is heavily correlated with education. Humans need education to setup businesses. Igbo people are the most educated, that's why you'll find, in Igboland, indigenous industries, manufacturing cars, plastics, foodstuff, computers, clothes etc... You won't find people in Sokoto manufacturing cars; simply because the populace lacks the knowhow.

Likewise in SW, you won't find the equivalent of Zinox anywhere in that land.

Let's keep it to the SW, excluding Lagos, which has nothing whatsoever to do the with SW.