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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DCatt: 10:05am On Jun 02, 2020 |
Save your advice for when armed robbers and assassins enter your house so you can speak wisdom to them. America is at war and Trump took an oath to protect the country against enemies foreign and domestic, and that's what he will do. PremierGuy: |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Zuorom: 10:10am On Jun 02, 2020 |
budaatum:What do you mean by some here? It's a fact all over the world, even in Nigeria when the president's security is threatened, his security personnel takes over and they will do whatever it takes to protect him. Go and read the interview Mariam babangida gave about what happened during the Orkar coup, She said Babangida was proving stubborn and refused to leave Dodan Barracks but his security details bundled him and took him away by force. The job of those secret service people you are seeing is to protect the president of the United States not Donald Trump the individual and they are empowered to do anything to protect him. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Zuorom: 10:15am On Jun 02, 2020 |
budaatum:Well you are not even in any position to be recommending anything to Trump. Like I said, there is nothing he does that you people won't complain so it will even be foolish on his part to listen to people like you. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Zuorom: 10:21am On Jun 02, 2020 |
budaatum:They would have still taken him there if he refused. Even if it means dragging him there by force, they will do it. You think those guys are Trump loyalists? If Trump loses the elections in November but refuses to hand over, those same guys would bundle him out of the white house and transfer their services to the new president. But he won't lose so they'll be protecting him for another five years ![]() |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DCatt: 10:23am On Jun 02, 2020*. Modified: 10:54am On Jun 02, 2020 |
No, he shouldn't take care of himself because you chose to go mad and burn your own stuff down. Face it, the destruction cause by the rioters are in liberal areas, so na you decide to destroy your things after eating dog burger abi na bacon wey get human dna una dey chop budaatum: |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 10:26am On Jun 02, 2020 |
Zuorom:I'd believe you if this was anyone else. But not Trump. He'd sack them on the spot! The threat was not nearly as bad as they made out for Christ sake, and I in fact think those SS are definitely his not supporters who just wanted to make him look bad! |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 10:26am On Jun 02, 2020 |
Zuorom:Neither of us is, so what you doing here? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 10:29am On Jun 02, 2020 |
Zuorom:Are are you sure he won't lose? What happens if he loses? Will you guys go on rampage or start an insurgency? The poll numbers and sentiments are not good for Trump right now. So unless something extraordinary happens between now and November, like coronavirus virus suddenly disappears or the economy gets a huge boost or even a war breaks out with Iran, the chances of Trump winning is quite slim. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Zuorom: 10:32am On Jun 02, 2020 |
wirinet:I am not a prophet, neither am I God. I want my man to win and I believe he will win but if he loses, it won't be the end of the world. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Zuorom: 10:37am On Jun 02, 2020 |
budaatum:You don't know what information they received that made them take that action. The protesters on the street are not the only threats that are around. There could be many others looking to take advantage of the situation to get at the president. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 10:41am On Jun 02, 2020 |
Zuorom:There always are other threats! You sound reasonable, so, imagine his ratings if he'd done what I suggest. Even I would have had to be lamenting Trump 2020 by now! |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Zuorom: 10:43am On Jun 02, 2020 |
budaatum:And Trump can't sack them for doing their jobs. Those guys have been trained to even lay down their lives to protect the president so the fear of sacking is the last thing on their minds. When the president is threatened, they are ready to even lose their lives talk less of jobs. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Appleyard(m): 10:50am On Jun 02, 2020 |
Qstorm:What a babel! Secret Service my foot. Is the CIA the head of the president or the president head of the security? Who is ruling who? Heck, this is not even a crisis with a code red alert, and you're here creating imagined threats from Satan's scrotum! You saying the president has no choice about his security is a very stupid and puerile excuse to make. I can't believe sensible people will go this length to defend stupidity and shameless show of irresponsibility. You think if one diabolic organization wants Trump dead, the perfect timing would be during a public riot when the security apparatus of the state is 1100% on alert and fully activated? You blind fanatics are the naive ones here, my friend. Making up silly excuses for failures of the president during such a critical time is to me lame and mypoic. Which president hops like a frog into an underground bunker during protests in a section of his country, not to mention when such protests doesn't even have anything to do with the president style of rulership or policies? There was similar widespread and violent protest during Obama time for similar issue of police brutality, how many bunker did he run into? Other presidents in America has seen far worse cases and even threat to their personal lives, which one of them runs into a bunker? Not quite long, we saw the huge and devastating protests that shut down much of France, which bunker did Macron ran into? Which of them prefer to make provocative statements, or prefer to talk more about human rights in another man country while his own is on fire? Trump had all the time to host a press conference in front of the white house where he finds it convenient and shameless to talk about China and Hong Kong's autonomy vis-à-vis human right in Hong Kong, when his own crazy police state are killing both black, white, green and yellow, without provocation. He didn't deem it worthy to talk about the gruesome murder and the ongoing riot in his recent press conference, and you're here supporting him for running into a bunker like the Russians are coming with Topol M and Satan 2? Men, you should be ashamed for the president on this one. He got it all wrong this time. Stop being a blind fanatic. No level of threat to the president could have deter him from making a national telecast addressing the riot, calling for the quick prosecution of the racists cops involved, proposed reformed to pplice use of extremem force, and plead with the people to go back home. That's what a responsible president does, not feigning ignorance to what's happening and running into an underground bunker like the protesters have breached the White house. It's only an idiot that would hail Trump's handling of this one. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PremierGuy(m): 10:54am On Jun 02, 2020 |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ribbit: 11:23am On Jun 02, 2020 |
Wendy's donated 400k to trump Surprise surprise. Big cooperation supporting their own. Government of 1% for 1% They got the turd's back. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by obixcel(m): 11:32am On Jun 02, 2020 |
Zuorom:Wait a second, are we saying that the litards here don't even know the operational dynamics and basic workings of the Secret Service? They have allowed sentiments and TDS to cloud their thinking faculty. It sure have gotten to that point where they just turn a blind eye to the truth. Believe me, if Hillary was the President and this same scenario played out, they (the libtards) will be the ones telling u exactly what you are telling them now. Tomorow Lucasbabboon will come and tell us that we don't know how America works. I just dey laugh |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Abbeybailey(m): 11:50am On Jun 02, 2020 |
Appleyard:Appleyard, you know you and I and few others here are doyennes here. Seriously, you are metamorphosising before my eyes. You are absolutely right on point. A mark of a leader is to calm down a situation especially when the nation is grieving and in pain. Trump is not mentally capable of doing that because he sees himself as a President for certain part of the country. A president is a calming voice during trying period in US. Let me give you an example. About 30 years ago in Los Angeles, Rodney King was brutally beaten by four white police officers and Los Angeles and it's suburbs literally went on fire and George Bush Snr came out and addressed the nation and there was calm. 911 happened under Bush jnr, and George Jnr went to NY City and stood on top of the Twin towers ruins and addressed the nation and calm the nation down. Clinton did with Queresh cult followers and so did Obama called down the effects of Ferguson riots but here we have a president Trump who is mentally incapable of putting out the fire burning in America. This on going problem started from frustrations of seeing Blacks and Brown's being killed disproportionately by Nazi police officers. I can give you twenty names of recent black men and women that have been slaughtered by White racist police officers not to talk about Ahmaud Arbery that was slaughtered by a racist father and son just for jogging in their neighborhood. Can these coons that support Trump think of what the families of the lynched people are going through ?. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by azpekuliar: 11:53am On Jun 02, 2020 |
Abbeybailey:You're either a liar or a poor student of history. I want to believe it is the latter. How do you think the LA Riots of 1992 ended? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijedeikorodu(m): 11:55am On Jun 02, 2020 |
Tucker Carlson Blames Jared Kushner for Trump’s Protest Catastrophe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wJVOS6tEOo Fox News host Tucker Carlson tore into White House senior adviser and presidential son-in-law Jared Kushner on Monday night, blaming him for leading the president astray and having “contempt” for Trump’s voters as violent protests rage across the country. Kicking off Tucker Carlson Tonight by raging against the increasingly chaotic demonstrations that have flared up over George Floyd’s death, Carlson first took issue with Republican leaders sympathizing with peaceful protesters. “Who are you talking about?” Carlson growled. “Is it the people spitting foam as they scream ‘F the police’? Is it the one sitting next to the arsonist doing nothing as they set fire to buildings? Is it the kids laughing as they filmed the looting and the beatings on their iPhones?” After wondering aloud why he should be “required to be upset about” an unarmed black man’s death at the hands of police, Carlson then turned his attention to the president, whom he has almost never personally criticized on his show. Noting that Fox News anchor Leland Vittert was harassed by protesters outside the White House on Friday night, Carlson asked Trump: “If you can’t keep a Fox News correspondent from getting attacked directly across from your house, how can you protect my family? How are you going to protect the country? How hard are you trying?” The Fox star then applauded the president for his Monday evening statement threatening to deploy the military to tamp down the protests, which Trump delivered as Washington, D.C., police tear-gassed peaceful protesters. “Good for him,” Carlson said before turning his attention to Kushner. Claiming Trump will lose in November if he doesn’t ratchet up his response to the protests, Carlson blamed Kushner for not understanding the gravity of the situation and advising Trump not to address the situation. “No one has more contempt for Donald Trump’s voters than Jared Kushner and no one expresses it more frequently,” Carlson said. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Abbeybailey(m): 11:58am On Jun 02, 2020 |
azpekuliar:Was it close to what we have now that practically is burning up the whole country. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by azpekuliar: 11:59am On Jun 02, 2020 |
Abbeybailey:Before you talk about scale, first admit you lied bro ![]() |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Abbeybailey(m): 12:02pm On Jun 02, 2020 |
All the trolls and coons in Nigeria doesn't know how protests and riots are handled in a civilized world. Americans do not send American military to face their own people. Trump can say whatever he wants but you guys should know we do not live under dictatorship like you do. His mouthing off will not stop the civil protest and Nov 3, Americans will come out in full force to exercise their constitutional rights of deciding whether they want him back or not and not one of you guys here that licks his Orange rear like strawberry ice cream will have a say about it. Enjoy your fame on nairaland. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Abbeybailey(m): 12:05pm On Jun 02, 2020 |
azpekuliar:What's the lie ? Los Angeles was on fire and there were looting and burnings and the National guards and the LA police dept came out to quench the riots. Many were killed and hurt but the bottom line is that the Rodney King debacle was nothing close to what's going on now. I was watching it live in Chicago unlike you that can only Google it. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Abbeybailey(m): 12:08pm On Jun 02, 2020 |
The google heads are back googling. I am speaking from real life experience of what I witnessed and saw life not some trolls on nairaland that all they know about America is googling and watching Fake and Racist Faux News. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Abbeybailey(m): 12:16pm On Jun 02, 2020 |
obixcel:Uchendu, you sure know how America works from your village. The election is Nov 3rd and please hurry up and hop on a plane as soon as Buhari open up the airspace so you can come along with your fellow coons and vote for your Lord and savior Trump. He will need all the help he can get in Nov. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by azpekuliar: 12:20pm On Jun 02, 2020 |
Abbeybailey:Thank you ancestor, I may have been a toddler in 1992 with no access to cable TV but it is immaterial now. As a lover of history it is my sworn duty to correct obvious obsufucation of the facts. Donald Trump is not the first American President to invoke the Insurrection Act. If it was good in 1992 to end the rioting and looting that was then confined to Los Angeles, then it must be good in 2020 to end the rioting and looting spreading concurrently across several cities in America. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Appleyard(m): 12:24pm On Jun 02, 2020*. Modified: 1:27pm On Jun 02, 2020 |
garetz:Use your brain. Did you watch the video or not? Even a child in the belly knew Floyd was murdered. What? Are you saying if the president calls for the prosecution of the officers involved, it would mean the president is usurping the judicial process? What's wrong with some of you? Since when does calling for prosecution means passing a guilty verdict? Are you serious? Yes, as much as I hated to admit it, Obama (whom I deem a monumental failure as much as blacks are concerned) did address the nation and called for justice for the murder of Garner, even after a grand jury cleared the cops involved of any criminal charges. He made a promise that they will see they get to the bottom of it, and the next few moments saw the Department of Justice conducting a separate investigation of their own, not withstanding the final outcome therefrom. Here is the catch: when you're the president of a country that is highly divided across racial lines, do your best to douse tensions in times of public unrest where the subject matter revolves around race. Trump could have done his part (and even use this opportunity to leverage his re-election drive) by addressing the nation and advocating for justice for the murdered Floyd. Then appeal to the rioters by promising a deep review of policing activities in relation to the public. Mind you, more than 30 million people and their sources of income are already devasted by the coronavirus outbreak and the consequent lockdown effect. What you're seeing on the street now is not just a problem of white supremacists or blacks boiled-over anger for years of systematic racism, nor just ANTIFA or some imagined dark groups hijacking the protest to score political or racial points. Its all part of it, but the real thing here is that people are broke and angry. A hungry man is an angry man, and the last thing you can think of is making remarks that could aggravate the whole situation. Unfortunately, that's what Trump did. He was completely wrong for not addressing the issue in a manner that conveys sensual feelings. He is all for the economy, and laboured strenuously for it, and wants the lockdown doors to open quickly so things can get back to normal, which is good. Then why give the same people a reason to stay more time in the streets? Heck, don't tell me " when the looting starts, the shooting starts" is a good and welcomed statement in this hour, or is it? Don't tell me calling protesters "thugs" (when we all know what that statement suggest and to whom it is implied) in such critical hour is a welcome and well guarded statement? You're better than this man. That I like Trump for certain reasons don't mean I should support his failures as well. On the bunker issue, I repeat it was needless to have run into a bunker. Jesus. This isn't even a code-red situation that warrant he been moved into a bunker. The entire situation is too dramatic to imagine. I'm beginning to think that either someone in his inner circle is trying to sabotage trump reelection or he is just been plain stupid. That bunker retreat crystalyzes Trump's AWOL response to George Floyd's death and subsequent riot that's still ongoing. It's unimaginable that up till now, the president who wants economic activities to bounce back in full swing is yet to address the nation and it's streets crowded with rioters in a formal telecast, even if its from his underground bunker. And here you are supporting this wreckless failure. Alright, may be a black man gruesome murder isn't worth it, Hong Kong and China are more important to talk about. BIG SHAME on Trump on this one. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Abbeybailey(m): 12:29pm On Jun 02, 2020 |
azpekuliar:The insurrection act that was invoked by Bush was just that in the sense of bringing the deadly riots spreading all over metropolitan LA to a halt unlike the ones Trump is threatening to unleash the power and viciousness of American military on American citizens that's unheard of in American history maybe with the exception of the civil war. My main point is that Trump is a divisive figure in America. A president brings people together in times of pain and anguish but the Nazi loving Trump is not mentally capable of doing that. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Appleyard(m): 12:34pm On Jun 02, 2020 |
wirinet:This is how rational people think and reason. You just spoke my mind. I support Trump on many fronts, but on this one, he was dead wrong in every area. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Abbeybailey(m): 12:35pm On Jun 02, 2020 |
Appleyard:Seriously Appleyard, it's like I am dreaming but to be candid, you are spot on. A president should be for all the citizens of his or her country regardless of race, gender or wealth. Trump truly believes that he is the President for Whites in Red States and since we know politics is an act of Addition not Subtraction. There's no single addiction to his coalition. 2020 is not 2016 because Americans are suffering with 41millions job lost, 20% unemployment rate and over 106.000+ Americans dead of Trumpvirus. How can he win with that number. We shall see on Nov 3rd. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Appleyard(m): 12:43pm On Jun 02, 2020 |
wirinet:Exstcly my point. But unfortunately, it's like you are talking to a brick wall. Extreme fanaticism is sequel to terrorism. Its a pity seeing how fellow brothers could hail trump on this one. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Abbeybailey(m): 12:51pm On Jun 02, 2020 |
Appleyard:Timbuktuo yesterday was calling George Floyd's brother that was calling for calm and non violent protest in America Uncle Tom. Do any sane person say that to a guy that his brother was lynched in broad day light by Nazis in uniform. Some of these Trump lovers here never condemned the brutal way George was killed while begging for his life. They are only worried about the looting and burning. I am against looting and burnings too but alk those stores that were looted are fully insured and they will be compensated by the insurance companies for their loss but nothing can bring the lives of George and thousands of other Brown and Black people that has been killed by Nazi police officers. |
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