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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by FieldMarshall06(m): 3:10pm On Jun 02, 2020
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by giles14(m): 6:29pm On Jun 02, 2020
Tobiloba2407:


I just hope it isnt bmp1 with its useless 73mm gun.....and whatever we are getting comes with a good fire control system to make them effective and neutralize enemies from a distance accurately....I will personally favor the bmp 3 , because it comes with a 30mm gun. 4 rounds at every gun truck to stop it, the 100mm gun, can sport frag ammo, to kill masses of terrorists.
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by FieldMarshall06(m): 6:54pm On Jun 02, 2020
Tobiloba2407:


I just hope it isnt bmp1 with its useless 73mm gun.....and whatever we are getting comes with a good fire control system to make them effective and neutralize enemies from a distance accurately....I will personally favor the bmp 3 , because it comes with a 30mm gun. 4 rounds at every gun truck to stop it, the 100mm gun, can sport frag ammo, to kill masses of terrorists.

The 73mm gun has its own advantages. It's a bazooka, useful for taking out targets like armoured combat vehicles, in real wars. The rounds can penetrate 400mm of steel. Unfortunately, those guns are not very useful in counter insurgency wars. But, the IFV we bought are still BMP 1 which we need to fight real wars.

For boko haram, 30mm guns can be mounted on MRAPs or other vehicles for this purpose.

If we buy new IFV with 30mm guns, it is lesser power when we fight real armies with large armoured vehicles.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by S400: 6:59pm On Jun 02, 2020
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Tobiloba2407: 8:16pm On Jun 02, 2020
FieldMarshall06:


The 73mm gun has its own advantages. It's a bazooka, useful for taking out targets like armoured combat vehicles, in real wars. The rounds can penetrate 400mm of steel. Unfortunately, those guns are not very useful in counter insurgency wars. But, the IFV we bought are still BMP 1 which we need to fight real wars.

For boko haram, 30mm guns can be mounted on MRAPs or other vehicles for this purpose.

If we buy new IFV with 30mm guns, it is lesser power when we fight real armies with large armoured vehicles.

With all due respect that 73mm low velocity gun has no advantages unless the target is sitting still at 400 meters.... and no, a 30mm on any vehicle is useless, in fact any .50cal weapons mounted on a vehicle without any form of stabilization like we do with our vehicles is almost useless....we need a dedicated platform designed around the gun with good fire control system.....else we just have a terror weapon, not a killing weapon, how many seized vehicles or bodies, have you seen with .50 cal sized holes?

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by youghs: 8:20pm On Jun 02, 2020
FieldMarshall06:


The 73mm gun has its own advantages. It's a bazooka, useful for taking out targets like armoured combat vehicles, in real wars. The rounds can penetrate 400mm of steel. Unfortunately, those guns are not very useful in counter insurgency wars. But, the IFV we bought are still BMP 1 which we need to fight real wars.

For boko haram, 30mm guns can be mounted on MRAPs or other vehicles for this purpose.

If we buy new IFV with 30mm guns, it is lesser power when we fight real armies with large armoured vehicles.

Honestly Huge investment in IFV with 23mm or 30mm cannon of at least 2km effective firing range would be a game changer in the war against bokoharam cos the vehicle and its ammo is cheap and its effect of BH light vehicles is very deadly...They are more useful than even tanks in this war cos tanks are for bigger targets which bokoharam hardly posses...Producing these vehicles locally either from scratch or through license production shouldn't be hard for the army to engage in.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by FieldMarshall06(m): 8:27pm On Jun 02, 2020
youghs:


Honestly Huge investment in IFV with 23mm or 30mm cannon of at least 2km effective firing range would be a game changer in the war against bokoharam cos the vehicle and its ammo is cheap and its effect of BH light vehicles is very deadly...They are more useful than even tanks in this war cos tanks are for bigger targets which bokoharam hardly posses...Producing these vehicles locally either from scratch or through license production shouldn't be hard for the army to engage in.

Sure, we need many IFVs with 22-30mm cannons, like the BMP 2 variant is armed with a 30mm cannon. You are right, just as I am, that those would be useful in defeating boko haram.

But the army is looking far ahead. If we arm these IFVs with 30mm guns. What happens when boko haram ends, and we face a real army.

So, obviously while you are correct about the 23-30mm guns in defeating boko haram. We must look beyond that. We need IFV that can fight real armoured vehicles in real war scenarios. Boko haram would come and go. But inferior IFVs would remain in the armoury.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by FieldMarshall06(m): 8:39pm On Jun 02, 2020
Tobiloba2407:


With all due respect that 73mm low velocity gun has no advantages unless the target is sitting still at 400 meters.... and no, a 30mm on any vehicle is useless, in fact any .50cal weapons mounted on a vehicle without any form of stabilization like we do with our vehicles is almost useless....we need a dedicated platform designed around the gun with good fire control system.....else we just have a terror weapon, not a killing weapon, how many seized vehicles or bodies, have you seen with .50 cal sized holes?

You are correct. The BMP1 2A28 78mm gun are low pressure but I don't think those are the guns on our arriving BMPs. Perhaps the MOD would have opted for the SPG-9 78mm variant which has much higher pressure and range. Am not sure, but being privy to the full specs of our VT-4s and other new weapons; I can say that the BMPs wouldn't carry the low pressure guns. I doubt it.

Yet you are still correct about the need for dedicates platforms of the 30mm guns.
For now, we are arming proper to fight wars, not boko haram. Hence the need for the higher BMP1s.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Tobiloba2407: 8:51pm On Jun 02, 2020
FieldMarshall06:


You are correct. The BMP1 2A28 78mm gun are low pressure but I don't think those are the guns on our arriving BMPs. Perhaps the MOD would have opted for the SPG-9 78mm variant which has much higher pressure and range. Am not sure, but being privy to the full specs of our VT-4s and other new weapons; I can say that the BMPs wouldn't carry the low pressure guns. I doubt it.

Yet you are still correct about the need for dedicates platforms of the 30mm guns.
For now, we are arming proper to fight wars, not boko haram. Hence the need for the higher BMP1s.


I have tried to convince you, it's not even 78mm.... when you read somethings online try and understand it. Modern warfare is fought like boko haram war. See, I will never tell a surgeon how to open a body . I will advise you understand your limits too .


There even no high pressure , or high velocity 73mm gun variant on the bmp....or even our saigae.

The bmp 1 is also a death trap, that can easily incinerate troops, because of where the fuel tank is.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by FieldMarshall06(m): 9:18pm On Jun 02, 2020
Tobiloba2407:



I have tried to convince you, it's not even 78mm.... when you read somethings online try and understand it. Modern warfare is fought like boko haram war. See, I will never tell a surgeon how to open a body . I will advise you understand your limits too .


There even no high pressure , or high velocity 73mm gun variant on the bmp....or even our saigae.

The bmp 1 is also a death trap, that can easily incinerate troops, because of where the fuel tank is.

Lol. I was typing while walking, hence the error. . I know its 73mm. In my first post, i used 73mm, look back, so no issue there.

I admit when you are correct but you don't seem to understand me. Am talking about the possibility our newly acquired BMP1s having the SPG 73mm gun, not the BMPs we already have.

Anyway, lets leave it here. wink
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Tobiloba2407: 9:34pm On Jun 02, 2020
FieldMarshall06:


Lol. I was typing while walking, hence the error. . I know its 73mm. In my first post, i used 73mm, look back, so no issue there.

I admit when you are correct but you don't seem to understand me. Am talking about the possibility our newly acquired BMP1s having the SPG9 73mm gun, not the BMPs we already have.

Anyway, lets leave it here. wink

All bmp 1s come with spg 73mm gun, which on its own is an anti tank gun, installed on the bmp1, even the almost useless bmp2, was built with the 30mm gun, because of the useless 73mm spg 9
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by FieldMarshall06(m): 10:01pm On Jun 02, 2020
Tobiloba2407:


All bmp 1s come with spg 73mm gun, which on its own is an anti tank gun, installed on the bmp1, even the almost useless bmp2, was built with the 30mm gun, because of the useless 73mm spg 9

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by FieldMarshall06(m): 10:23pm On Jun 02, 2020
Tobiloba2407:



I have tried to convince you, it's not even 78mm.... when you read somethings online try and understand it. Modern warfare is fought like boko haram war. See, I will never tell a surgeon how to open a body . I will advise you understand your limits too .


There even no high pressure , or high velocity 73mm gun variant on the bmp....or even our saigae.

The bmp 1 is also a death trap, that can easily incinerate troops, because of where the fuel tank is.

You are very correct though. The BMP1 has many deficiencies, including the location of the fuel tank and firing inaccuracies.

Maybe that is the reason we are buying them as Used not brand new. The MoD must have plans for more potent IFVs. I will hope... wink
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jteku(m): 9:10am On Jun 03, 2020
NAF RECORDS FIRST ALL-FEMALE CREW ON OPERATIONAL ISR MISSION

The Nigerian Air Force (NAF) has again made history with the conduct of an operational Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR) mission by an all-female crew. The mission, which was conducted on 28 May 2020 using the NAF Beechcraft KingAir ISR aircraft, had Flying Officers Oluwabunmi Ijelu and Genevieve Nwaogwugwu as Captain and Co-Pilot, respectively, with Sergeant Njoku Patience as the Airborne Tactical Observation System (ATOS) mission operator and Lance Corporal Shawulu Godiya as the on-board technician. It is noteworthy that Flying Officer Ijelu is the first female officer to become a Captain on a NAF aircraft. The aircraft was also marshaled by a female Marshaller, Aircraftwoman David Precious. The mission, which was preceded by the customary pre-flight briefing, originated from the 307 Executive Airlift Group (307 EAG), at the Nnamdi Azikwe International Airport and covered selected areas of interest in Niger State and its environs, where intelligence that would support NAF air interdiction missions as well as the operations of ground forces was gathered.

The Commander 307 EAG, Air Commodore Francis Edosa, while welcoming the all-female crew from the mission, applauded them for displaying a high level of professionalism. He remarked that the feat was only made possible as a result of the commitment of Chief of the Air Staff (CAS), Air Marshal Sadique Abubakar, to providing a level playing field for all personnel, whether male or female, to thrive and realize their dreams and aspirations in service to the Nation. This, he said, had translated into tangible positive results. He therefore thanked the CAS for giving the female personnel the opportunity to prove their worth in hitherto male-dominated specialties in the NAF.

Within the past 4 and half years of the current NAF leadership, there has been a surge in the involvement of female personnel in areas that were previously the preserve of men. Five female pilots have been winged within the period, bringing the total number of female pilots in the NAF to 7. Many other female officers and airwomen are excelling in their various fields of specialization including Regiment and Special Forces, Aircraft/Armament Engineers and Technicians as well as Air Traffic Controllers, amongst others. The NAF’s objective in this regard is to maximize all of the potentials of Nigeria’s vast human resource pool, male and female, to ensure the effective, efficient and timely employment of Air Power in response to Nigeria’s national security imperatives.

IBIKUNLE DARAMOLA
Air Commodore
Director of Public Relations and Information
Nigerian Air Force
2 June 2020


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9d4e7zO8X8

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 11:22am On Jun 03, 2020
FieldMarshall06:


Sure, we need many IFVs with 22-30mm cannons, like the BMP 2 variant is armed with a 30mm cannon. You are right, just as I am, that those would be useful in defeating boko haram.

But the army is looking far ahead. If we arm these IFVs with 30mm guns. What happens when boko haram ends, and we face a real army.

So, obviously while you are correct about the 23-30mm guns in defeating boko haram. We must look beyond that. We need IFV that can fight real armoured vehicles in real war scenarios. Boko haram would come and go. But inferior IFVs would remain in the armoury.
Europe is poised to face a peer adversary. Can you show me the armies with 73mm guns
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by FieldMarshall06(m): 1:09pm On Jun 03, 2020
Odunayaw:
Europe is poised to face a peer adversary. Can you show me the armies with 73mm guns

See this man... some of you sha...

The Nigerian army BTR-4 has 30mm auto-cannon. What we need is more of them.
But to imply that we don't need the 73mm guns is lame.

You think army strategists are dumb for choosing the 73mm anti-tank IFV for armoured support. Do you know how much 1 round of MBT HEAT shell cost?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by fachfouch: 2:58pm On Jun 03, 2020
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Tobiloba2407: 5:27pm On Jun 03, 2020
FieldMarshall06:


See this man... some of you sha...

The Nigerian army BTR-4 has 30mm auto-cannon. What we need is more of them.
But to imply that we don't need the 73mm guns is lame.

You think army strategists are dumb for choosing the 73mm anti-tank IFV for armoured support. Do you know how much 1 round of MBT HEAT shell cost?

The 73mm is useless and obsolete....we dont need it, because it has almost nothing to offer
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by S400: 5:33pm On Jun 03, 2020
sukhoi 30 MKA

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by FieldMarshall06(m): 6:04pm On Jun 03, 2020
Tobiloba2407:


The 73mm is useless and obsolete....we dont need it, because it has almost nothing to offer

Ok. Shout on nairaland as you like; we have ordered more. And they are coming in batches with 73mm guns cheesy

If you don't like it... abeg resign from the army.

Or if you know more than the generals, apply to the MoD as a consultant. Smh...

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:06pm On Jun 03, 2020
S400:
sukhoi 30 MKA

Copyright anonymous ? grin

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by BlackBaron: 7:07pm On Jun 03, 2020
Guys, some of this new contraption the army is building, isn't the picture below a Cobra APC welded to another truck type vehicle?
I'm also seeing other types of possibly moribund trucks welded to other vehicles.

EDIT
Pic 2 is a MOWAG apc
Some mad max levels on display here shocked

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by SuperSixSeven: 7:44pm On Jun 03, 2020
Good observation, think you are right!! shocked
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 8:08pm On Jun 03, 2020
FieldMarshall06:


See this man... some of you sha...

The Nigerian army BTR-4 has 30mm auto-cannon. What we need is more of them.
But to imply that we don't need the 73mm guns is lame.

You think army strategists are dumb for choosing the 73mm anti-tank IFV for armoured support. Do you know how much 1 round of MBT HEAT shell cost?
Spare me this tears na. I asked a simple question. What do you think the Sagaie (& the new Chinese product is for).

An IFV belongs to Mechanized infantry. Carry the lads into harms way and support them. And that's why ATGMs are carried on IFVs not some low pressured outdated 73mms
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by S400: 8:13pm On Jun 03, 2020
nemesis8u:


Copyright anonymous ? grin

dont think the pilot wants his name to be on the copyright .


MiG-29 awaiting overhaul in April 2016

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by toptennaija: 1:10am On Jun 04, 2020
Most Sophisticated Weapons Used By The Nigerian Army-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwWB0bIa8ms
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Jimi24: 6:29am On Jun 04, 2020
toptennaija:
Most Sophisticated Weapons Used By The Nigerian Army-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwWB0bIa8ms

Good video but started with a big LIE.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by SuperSixSeven: 12:25pm On Jun 04, 2020
Jimi24:


Good video but started with a big LIE.

Its a entertainment video and it serves it purpose. wink
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by toptennaija: 12:40pm On Jun 04, 2020
Jimi24:


Good video but started with a big LIE.
Thanks, but please bear with me, I meant to say Naira instead of dollars grin...silly mistake
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by toptennaija: 12:41pm On Jun 04, 2020
SuperSixSeven:


Its a entertainment video and it serves it purpose. wink
The dollars was a big mistake grin. I meant to say Naira, and I've uploaded it already. I feel bad somehow

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by FieldMarshall06(m): 1:30pm On Jun 04, 2020
Odunayaw:
Spare me this tears na. I asked a simple question. What do you think the Sagaie (& the new Chinese product is for).

An IFV belongs to Mechanized infantry. Carry the lads into harms way and support them. And that's why ATGMs are carried on IFVs not some low pressured outdated 73mms

Ok stop crying cheesy I can guess confirm that other IFV schemes are in the works. Plans are on for the army to get 8*8 IFVs armed with 30mm gun and others. This is not the BTR-4, but a different product entirely.

So that you don't poo in your pants crying about 73mm guns that we still need wink

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