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Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by Elipsis: 10:10am On Jun 05, 2020
Mustiboy:


Pretty much everywhere in the world houses and buildings are built with CMU blocks, because they are inexpensive and easy to work with.

My understanding is that the US builders keep building with wood because it is the most inexpensive local construction material and US consumers are obviously not worried about durability. They also probably lack the manpower and knowledge basis for this type of work so they stick with what they know better.

In Europe, people usually expect their house to last several generations, whereas the oldest homes in the US must be 120 years old; maybe there is something about that.

Houses in the US are tore down and rebuilt at a much higher pace than in old Europe.

In the long run, concrete homes are very likely more economical; they last much longer, they do not have mold or termite issues, concrete blocks do not crack or twist like wood does. They hold off much better against elements.

Still, they offer great flexibility; you can easily delete and move the walls as long as they are not bearing the roof.

On top of that, CMU walls have higher fire and weather insulation properties than a typical wood frame wall. A hollow CMU block has a fire rating of 2 hours upgraded to 4 hours if the cells are grouted or filled with other filling materials(which is the case most of the time)

A typical wood frame wall made of 2x6 with 2x 1/2 drywall board and fiberglass wool insulation would likely fail in 30 minutes, unless built with modern 5/8 commercial grade X type gypsum boards; but still the wall would only hold 1 hour against 4 hours with a CMU wall.

The vast majority of houses in the mediterranean do not have air conditionning even though the temperatures often reach over 100 degrees. Walls are typically made of stucco over hollow or grouted (filled) CMU blocks and clay tiles roofs.

People usually keep the windows and doors closed during the hottest hours of the day and open at night so the house remain cold without using ventilation or AC, which proves the effectiveness of such constructions against extreme temperatures

Thanks alot for the detailed explanation.

Can we adopt such methods in Nigeria? We are not prone to some of these natural disasters, and we have vast forests.

It will greatly reduce the price of cement and eventually reduce the housing problems we are currently facing.

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Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by Sonytech(m): 10:12am On Jun 05, 2020
O boi! 2020, all town this eil occurences and pandemic don do now cheesy . Only 6 months into the year and natural disasters and pandemic don dey reach 5 or more.
Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by joseph1832(m): 10:14am On Jun 05, 2020
SeverusSnape:

Boss man. I greet you sir. Been a while.
yes oh. Enjoy.
Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by olujastro: 10:14am On Jun 05, 2020
Elipsis:
Can someone explain to me why these guys don't use cement to build their houses?

I've noticed this in foreign houses. Just plank and small metal. They don't even have foundations. Small breeze, everything don scatter.

Is cement very expensive there abi its illegal to build houses with cement?

I'll appreciate helpful comments.
Ignore those earlier responses based on assumptions. I lived in Norway so I know better.
No house is built without foundation or on wooden foundations.
All the houses have concrete foundations while wood is then used on the body and the floors of the house.
You don't see the concrete foundations because basements are standard parts of a house in cold climates, so the foundation is usually underground.

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Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by freshkpomo(m): 10:15am On Jun 05, 2020
[quote author=Slynation post=90322506]What will they call this one now... Norway that i was planning to go, last last no where is safe, ticket wey go cut go cut...



We on same boat bro.






God bless Nigeria.

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Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by Naijaepic: 10:16am On Jun 05, 2020
I came across a discussion on quora where the issues you was throughly discuss from both technicanity, cost and people culture.

If I come across the link, I will post here.

Modified :
Here is the link

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-they-prefer-to-use-timber-more-than-concrete-for-construction-in-the-USA/answer/Subramanian-Narayanan-19?ch=10&share=fbc36c71&srid=Z2I0

Elipsis:
Can someone explain to me why these guys don't use cement to build their houses?

I've noticed this in foreign houses. Just plank and small metal. They don't even have foundations. Small breeze, everything don scatter.

Is cement very expensive there abi its illegal to build houses with cement?

I'll appreciate helpful comments.

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Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by packman: 10:19am On Jun 05, 2020
Nbote:


Which one worst pass leadership disaster dat has plagued us for years

Na our own worst I swear
Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by Nobody: 10:21am On Jun 05, 2020
oluwamile:
.if year 2020 isn't the end of the world,then I wonder what the end of the world will look like
The spanish flu killed about 50-100million people between 1918-1920, if you add that to world war 1, which was closely followed again by the great depression you'l see we are actually flexing compared to then

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Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by Omoslim26: 10:24am On Jun 05, 2020
MasterRahl:
I've been wondering too.

I taught I was da only one wondering
Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by Omoslim26: 10:24am On Jun 05, 2020
MasterRahl:
I've been wondering too.

I taught I was da only one wondering��
Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by Egoveen: 10:29am On Jun 05, 2020
decatalyst:



Is mother earth angry?


Let this visit a part of Abuja and wash away our painssssssss jare
I pray so,this polithievians have raped US for good.
Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by Newboss(m): 10:32am On Jun 05, 2020
ZiriMane:
life na TragiComedy . Everywhere get im own Natural disaster but for here na our government

Not government. Our people is the problem. The government is just a bunch of people the people chose from amongst the people. There's nothing like "our government". It's our people.

Corruption is not a government thing. It's a societal thing

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Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by OKTolu: 10:39am On Jun 05, 2020
Hmmmmm natural disaster
Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by Mustiboy(m): 10:41am On Jun 05, 2020
Elipsis:


Thanks alot for the detailed explanation.

Can we adopt such methods in Nigeria? We are not prone to some of these natural disasters, and we have vast forests.

It will greatly reduce the price of cement and eventually reduce the housing problems we are currently facing.


Wooden house is not feasible in Nigeria because of termite and our very hot weather.

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Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by gnykelly(m): 10:47am On Jun 05, 2020
dpete1:
We are damn so lucky we don't have natural disasters here in Nigeria. Tornado no dey worry us, Tsunami no Sabi us, Earthquake no like us, Volcanic eruption sef no dey feel our vibe. Yet, we are still Ungrateful!

do your research. we do.
Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by Nobody: 10:51am On Jun 05, 2020
Watin them take build those house wey dey float like Canton for water so?
House dey float?
Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by Nobody: 10:53am On Jun 05, 2020
Global warming is real
Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by BabangidaHamza(m): 10:53am On Jun 05, 2020
Elipsis:
Can someone explain to me why these guys don't use cement to build their houses?

I've noticed this in foreign houses. Just plank and small metal. They don't even have foundations. Small breeze, everything don scatter.

Is cement very expensive there abi its illegal to build houses with cement?

I'll appreciate helpful comments.
They used plank because the community they live in is prone to lightening and thunderstorm which makes wood/planks good absorbers of such accidents

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Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by 4four(m): 11:00am On Jun 05, 2020
dpete1:
We are damn so lucky we don't have natural disasters here in Nigeria. Tornado no dey worry us, Tsunami no Sabi us, Earthquake no like us, Volcanic eruption sef no dey feel our vibe. Yet, we are still Ungrateful!
but we have disaster that is worst than all those u mentioned up there, which is leadership disaster because countries with all those disasters u mentioned up there can and will still stand up on their feet with good and visionary leaders but countries with lack of good and visionary leadership will never stand on their feet even without those disasters u mentioned up there
Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by tlops(m): 11:03am On Jun 05, 2020
Elipsis:
Can someone explain to me why these guys don't use cement to build their houses?

I've noticed this in foreign houses. Just plank and small metal. They don't even have foundations. Small breeze, everything don scatter.

Is cement very expensive there abi its illegal to build houses with cement?

I'll appreciate helpful comments.
Cost and weather are part of factors that contributed to that. Since they have extreme cold weather wood and insulation is good and its cheaper than concrete. Moreover, these countries have large forests which keeps the supplies of the wooden product going and affordable. Most of the houses are built as prefab (built in the factory and transported to site) both wooden and concrete houses are built like this (most). Even if you build a concrete house wood will be used to partition and line the inside. However the houses have concrete and insulation (fuke fuke) foundation. The woods are well treated and can last for decades.

the next questions is why can't we do that in Nigeria?
Well, we don't have sustainable forest, we keep cutting and not planting enough to replace them. So wood can be more expensive.
Our weather is hot and wet so wood will get destroyed faster here..
Security, it will be easier for thieves to cut through your house with wood. its not that the bricks stops the determined thieves.

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Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by Nobody: 11:06am On Jun 05, 2020
Fidelismaria:
undecided



thor must be angry



ragnarok is bout to happen






We are in the end game now undecided
Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by Alaganature(m): 11:15am On Jun 05, 2020
This one Deep ooo...May God almighty save us from this world not Nigeria alone..

Hungry is killing me ooo please help
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Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by cococandy(f): 11:15am On Jun 05, 2020
Oh shit shocked

Scary
Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by Coldie(m): 11:20am On Jun 05, 2020
ZiriMane:
life na TragiComedy . Everywhere get im own (tragedy) Natural disaster but for here na our government.
Funny part (comedy) na our people be the government.
Theres is better, in one year they would develop back
Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by Ebenezer2O2O(m): 11:21am On Jun 05, 2020
Fidelismaria:
undecided



thor must be angry



ragnarok is bout to happen
Kid stop watching movies





Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by Ebenezer2O2O(m): 11:24am On Jun 05, 2020
tlops:

. its not that the bricks stops the determined thieves.
like the thieves that attacked us last week used Monday hammer to break our walls and gained access
Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by Tunde835(m): 11:36am On Jun 05, 2020
Elipsis:
Can someone explain to me why these guys don't use cement to build their houses?

I've noticed this in foreign houses. Just plank and small metal. They don't even have foundations. Small breeze, everything don scatter.

Is cement very expensive there abi its illegal to build houses with cement?

I'll appreciate helpful comments.
Thats just their building materials in New york city they use brick nd mud as their building materials except when they are building skyscrapers wen dey use steel nd glass or cement

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Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by Ykc2(m): 11:50am On Jun 05, 2020
My gwaad for say I dey live for Norway I go rush go there tokunbo thing go full I go just ship to naija cry
Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by Elipsis: 12:14pm On Jun 05, 2020
tlops:

Cost and weather are part of factors that contributed to that. Since they have extreme cold weather wood and insulation is good and its cheaper than concrete. Moreover, these countries have large forests which keeps the supplies of the wooden product going and affordable. Most of the houses are built as prefab (built in the factory and transported to site) both wooden and concrete houses are built like this (most). Even if you build a concrete house wood will be used to partition and line the inside. However the houses have concrete and insulation (fuke fuke) foundation. The woods are well treated and can last for decades.

the next questions is why can't we do that in Nigeria?
Well, we don't have sustainable forest, we keep cutting and not planting enough to replace them. So wood can be more expensive.
Our weather is hot and wet so wood will get destroyed faster here..
Security, it will be easier for thieves to cut through your house with wood. its not that the bricks stops the determined thieves.
Thanks alot. I really appreciate.

If we can develop a cheap housing module in Nigeria, it will really go a long way to address our accommodation issues. As well as being a goldmine for investors.

You identified some issues - hot weather and wet wood that will be destroyed faster. With regular maintenance, cant that be addressed? Like regular treatment or replacement of damaged parts? The same way people patch cracked walls and floors.

As regards security, one can also re-enforce the house with iron bars or something, together with other security measures like alarm systems etc.

It may not be as standard as a regular house, but at least, people will have a decent place to sleep.

What do you think? Cant this be done?

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Re: Huge Landslide In Norway Washes Houses Into Sea (Photos) by Lovelyn451(f): 12:18pm On Jun 05, 2020
Where's d house? Na plank I dey see

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