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Instead of us to think of the way forward, some people want us to think of the way backwards.

Buildy of ponds

Land
Medicines
Gen
Fuel for 5/month's.
Pumping machines.
Water pumped in 6 month(Talk,pls attach a monetary value to the cost price of water the average Nigerian fish farmer pumps out from the ground and flush after 2/3 days for 5/6 month's).we are talking about thousand/milions of litters of water here oh.



Feeds
Machines.

Fish farming is a capital intensive business performing below the belt.

House,I want to teach Ttalk cost accounting for free.

Let me go and chill.

No more argument's.

Except you have knowledge to share with me.

I didn't learn fish farming, I grew up in the business.

The biz so straight forward.

If you use class room knowledge for the business you are wrong.

Think like an innovative African farmer,not an American/England farmer.

LikeAking:
Why are you pained?.

You want to fight against the truth because of your fish consultancy business.

I have read up your post and I can say you have not made any sense.

Before I continue arguing with you,I want you to also drop your own fish feed formulation formula for the house.That is how real men argue.Pls counter my feed formula with that you own feed formula,not by baseless hateful criticism.

Do it now,or leave me out of this argument.

Allow the crowd to judge,Nigerians are wiser now.

About showing what I have achieved/innovations in fish farming.. I have done more than you in the biz,before I upgraded.

All those gibberish you wrote about profit are laughable. You guys will never learn.Still been servants to books written by ancient men.

I will explain the best way to calculate profit in a business for you.


Let the crowd judge.

No forget to drop your formula.

Dont use me learn how to argue on the platform, i asked a straight forward question and you started singing praises of yourself. You wanted to teach me cost accounting? I dont know why you have refused to humble yourself.

My works on fish farming are my testimonies. I dont owe you any feed formula. There are thousand of people in the business we roll together. Name your work, innovation and references and lets begin from there.

Am still waiting for your understanding about margin and economies of scale as it relates to profit. You can goggle it up but your presentation will still expose your folly.

As to dickk measuring, forget it am not cut for that.

Is that formula what you called innovation? I tell you it cant win a prize in Kindergarten class

LikeAking:
Let me go and chill.

No more argument's.

Except you have knowledge to share with me.

I didn't learn fish farming, I grew up in the business.

The biz so straight forward.

If you use class room knowledge for the business you are wrong.

Think like an innovative African farmer,not an American/England farmer.

I know you are here to learn but your pride and approach pissed me off. Since people making it big have been silent for sometime on the platform, you decided to create scene to attract them, but that again is stale, try to be original and genuine and watch how people will attend to you

I APPRECIATE ALL POSTS IN THE HOUSE AND I PRAY THAT GOD WILL HELP EVERY ONE OF US TO THRIVE IN THIS COUNTRY. I AM INTERESTED IN FISH FARMING AND PLANNING TO START SMALL IF POSSIBLE WITH JUST 500 PIECES .I HAVE A SMALL PORTION OF LAND TO USE AND A WELL WATER IS ALSO AVAILABLE. BUT I HAVE TWO PROBLEMS WHICH I WANT EXPERT TO ADVISE ME. 1, I AM IN NEW SITE WHERE THERE IS NO DRAINAGE SYSTEM YET,NOW HOW DO I DRAIN OUT MY USED WATER TO PREVENT SMELL IN MY COMMUNITY. 2 THE WELL I WISH TO USE CAN GUARANTY ME OF LITTLE WATER DURING DRY SEASON BUT EXCESS WATER DURING RAINING SEASON. PLS ,I BEG YOU IN THE NAME OF GOD, I NEED HONEST ADVICE BECAUSE I WISH TO INVEST MY LITTLE HAD EARNED INCOME, THANKS.

ALSO , I WILL NEED USED POND TO BUY EITHER TAPOULIN OR PLASTIC FISH POND. IF THERE IS ANY AVAILABLE ONE FOR SALE PLS, LET ME KNOW.THANK YOU ALL.

Ttalk:
Dont use me learn how to argue on the platform, i asked a straight forward question and you started singing praises of yourself. You wanted to teach me cost accounting? I dont know why you have refused to humble yourself.

My works on fish farming are my testimonies. I dont owe you any feed formula. There are thousand of people in the business we roll together. Name your work, innovation and references and lets begin from there.

Am still waiting for your understanding about margin and economies of scale as it relates to profit. You can goggle it up but your presentation will still expose your folly.

As to dickk measuring, forget it am not cut for that.

Is that formula what you called innovation? I tell you it cant win a prize in Kindergarten class

Bros that is how smart farmers formulate fish feeds.Stop been a jester.

Remember the crowd is watching and they can see all your wrong moves.
Their are countless video on you tube on that same fish formula. Stop falling your hands.

When you counter my fish feed formula with yours,then we shall talk.

If your work on fish farming is so great then drop in for the farmers in the house to use and give us a feed back in 5 months.

Let's leave empty noise out of this.

Pls stop been cunning.
Stop dodging.

Ttalk:
I know you are here to learn but your pride and approach pissed me off. Since people making it big have been silent for sometime on the platform, you decided to create scene to attract them, but that again is stale, try to be original and genuine and watch how people will attend to you

Once again stop been cunning and manipulative.

Let's call spade,a spade.

I am not in business of attracting people.

Let the farmers who have made it with your mentorship and ideas step forward.

Your cunningness is a sign of desperation.

Stop fighting the truth.

Instead learn from the truth.

Good morning house, i am anticipating reply to me request, pls, be of help.

gonerest:
I APPRECIATE ALL POSTS IN THE HOUSE AND I PRAY THAT GOD WILL HELP EVERY ONE OF US TO THRIVE IN THIS COUNTRY. I AM INTERESTED IN FISH FARMING AND PLANNING TO START SMALL IF POSSIBLE WITH JUST 500 PIECES .I HAVE A SMALL PORTION OF LAND TO USE AND A WELL WATER IS ALSO AVAILABLE. BUT I HAVE TWO PROBLEMS WHICH I WANT EXPERT TO ADVISE ME. 1, I AM IN NEW SITE WHERE THERE IS NO DRAINAGE SYSTEM YET,NOW HOW DO I DRAIN OUT MY USED WATER TO PREVENT SMELL IN MY COMMUNITY. 2 THE WELL I WISH TO USE CAN GUARANTY ME OF LITTLE WATER DURING DRY SEASON BUT EXCESS WATER DURING RAINING SEASON. PLS ,I BEG YOU IN THE NAME OF GOD, I NEED HONEST ADVICE BECAUSE I WISH TO INVEST MY LITTLE HAD EARNED INCOME, THANKS.

Good morning house, pls, be of help.

dry

Detok2001:
Wet or dry food which one is best for catfish

hmmmmmm you are in a new site and there is no drainage? first do you want to use earthen pond or vast or trampoline pond? if you want to stock just 500 fishes it will be hard to use earthen pod because 500 fishes is too small for such ponds unless there are 3 to 4 months old but if you want to start from the fingerlings and juvenile you can make use of trampoline ponds and and transfer them to earthen ponds later..... you will definitely needs to create a drainage.water from fish doesn't smell like that unless you did take time to change their water for a very long time. if change the water regularly then the water wouldn't smell.2) well water cant be enough...if you truly want to do fishing then water must be available.. but if you get enough water during this rainy season then you can make use of this rainy season ans stock up your fish but note that you are in June and you need like 5 months now before dry season...

gonerest:
I APPRECIATE ALL POSTS IN THE HOUSE AND I PRAY THAT GOD WILL HELP EVERY ONE OF US TO THRIVE IN THIS COUNTRY. I AM INTERESTED IN FISH FARMING AND PLANNING TO START SMALL IF POSSIBLE WITH JUST 500 PIECES .I HAVE A SMALL PORTION OF LAND TO USE AND A WELL WATER IS ALSO AVAILABLE. BUT I HAVE TWO PROBLEMS WHICH I WANT EXPERT TO ADVISE ME. 1, I AM IN NEW SITE WHERE THERE IS NO DRAINAGE SYSTEM YET,NOW HOW DO I DRAIN OUT MY USED WATER TO PREVENT SMELL IN MY COMMUNITY. 2 THE WELL I WISH TO USE CAN GUARANTY ME OF LITTLE WATER DURING DRY SEASON BUT EXCESS WATER DURING RAINING SEASON. PLS ,I BEG YOU IN THE NAME OF GOD, I NEED HONEST ADVICE BECAUSE I WISH TO INVEST MY LITTLE HAD EARNED INCOME, THANKS.

but first have you learnt or practice fish farming before because there is more to it

gonerest:
ALSO , I WILL NEED USED POND TO BUY EITHER TAPOULIN OR PLASTIC FISH POND. IF THERE IS ANY AVAILABLE ONE FOR SALE PLS, LET ME KNOW.THANK YOU ALL.

waleyp:
but first have you learnt or practice fish farming before because there is more to it

I have not , i just want to start gradually and learn from people but definitely i will chose a mentor from this forum who will be my God father in the fish business. Thanks

waleyp:
hmmmmmm you are in a new site and there is no drainage? first do you want to use earthen pond or vast or trampoline pond? if you want to stock just 500 fishes it will be hard to use earthen pod because 500 fishes is too small for such ponds unless there are 3 to 4 months old but if you want to start from the fingerlings and juvenile you can make use of trampoline ponds and and transfer them to earthen ponds later..... you will definitely needs to create a drainage.water from fish doesn't smell like that unless you did take time to change their water for a very long time. if change the water regularly then the water wouldn't smell.2) well water cant be enough...if you truly want to do fishing then water must be available.. but if you get enough water during this rainy season then you can make use of this rainy season ans stock up your fish but note that you are in June and you need like 5 months now before dry season...

Does that mean if am changing fishes water every 3 days the smell will not disturb? I wish to use plastic or tampoline. thanks

Good afternoon house, please I need good feed formulae for my fish, from start to finish.
@ab1x @Ttalk and others please help

It won't go that bad every 3 days, the quantity of the fish is not much so it won't smell as bad as you think

gonerest:
Does that mean if am changing fishes water every 3 days the smell will not disturb? I wish to use plastic or tampoline. thanks

That's good 500 fishes is a good way to start. Find a mentor

gonerest:
I have not , i just want to start gradually and learn from people but definitely i will chose a mentor from this forum who will be my God father in the fish business. Thanks

Pls what do you think of someone who wants to do fish farming in a large scale, we plan to build the farm to standard like building water treatment for the ponds, our farm will be located near a river for the waste, we will have 2 indutrial borehole and industrial power generator for the farm,most of our fish will be smoked while few will be sold to restaurants/hotels/market women,we plan to start with 35k fish but to increase to 140k in 4 months.
A consultant who has been into fish farming and currenlty managing 5 big farms will handle this project. All your advise will be much appreciated.
NB: We want to start with fish first but will also add brolier farming in a large scale as time goes on.
CC: Everybody.

waleyp:
That's good 500 fishes is a good way to start. Find a mentor

Thank you for commenting, well its good to start on a big scale, but you already stated that you have a consultant already and he is managing five big farms too, why not ask him whatever you want to know. Because what I will say might be different from his. I would have told you that we can help you set it up because my mentor has been in business for more than 15years. So since you have a consultant maybe you should talk to him. Your location please?

XiaoLi:
Pls what do you think of someone who wants to do fish farming in a large scale, we plan to build the farm to standard like building water treatment for the ponds, our farm will be located near a river for the waste, we will have 2 indutrial borehole and industrial power generator for the farm,most of our fish will be smoked while few will be sold to restaurants/hotels/market women,we plan to start with 35k fish but to increase to 140k in 4 months.
A consultant who has been into fish farming and currenlty managing 5 big farms will handle this project. All your advise will be much appreciated.
NB: We want to start with fish first but will also add brolier farming in a large scale as time goes on.
CC: Everybody.

Thank you for your response waleyp, you are right to an extent that i'm suppose to ask our consultant, the truth is that our consultant have answered most of the questions but i want to have a due deligence before going into the business, this is my main reason seeking advise from the gurus here. At the bolded why is it so?
Location of the farm will be in Anambra.
Thank you all in advance for all your inputs.

waleyp:
Thank you for commenting, well its good to start on a big scale, but you already stated that you have a consultant already and he is managing five big farms too, why not ask him whatever you want to know. Because what I will say might be different from his. I would have told you that we can help you set it up because my mentor has been in business for more than 15years. So since you have a consultant maybe you should talk to him. Your location please?

Okay hmmmm I don't even know what to say now, but if you want to start on a large scale then you will need the help of an experienced fish farmer,a daily feed management, water management should be encouraged. Do you have a structured plan already? Budget and all that

XiaoLi:
Thank you for your response waleyp, you are right to an extent that i'm suppose to ask our consultant, the truth is that our consultant have answered most of the questions but i want to have a due deligence before going into the business, this is my main reason seeking advise from the gurus here. At the bolded why is it so?
Location of the farm will be in Anambra.
Thank you all in advance for all your inputs.

Yes at the bolded, since you are into this field is it advisable to go into it with the help of an experienced consultant? How about our capital..do you think this business will suck up our capital even if well managed?..this is our main concern.

waleyp:
Okay hmmmm I don't even know what to say now, but if you want to start on a large scale then you will need the help of an experienced fish farmer,a daily feed management, water management should be encouraged. Do you have a structured plan already? Budget and all that

Thank you very much... Why not? If you have a good consultant that would be fine, but your consultant wouldn't be available all the time you know? And his services will always be paid for every time, you can only make use of the experienced consultants for the starts so as to have knowledge of what you are about to do, and all that you will need, that's why you will need a business plan...you can't just start without a business plan. Know how much you wanna start up with and your consultant will be the one to work on that. You will need an experienced fish farmer to handle the job. Someone that would be on ground all the time. You know a consultant owns his farm and he wouldn't be on ground. Your capital? The start is just the hard part because you will be getting everything new, like getting the structures, construction of ponds and all that. After all that there wouldn't be much capital needed unless you want to expand your business (farm) and another secret is if you wanna get more profits, you should be able to manufacture your fish feeds (local feed) by yourself..and all that but hey there must be a very well detailed business plan before you commence. Thank you

XiaoLi:
Yes at the bolded, since you are into this field is it advisable to go into it with the help of an experienced consultant? How about our capital..do you think this business will suck up our capital even if well managed?..this is our main concern.

Thank you for the advise waleyp,this is duly noted.

waleyp:
Thank you very much... Why not? If you have a good consultant that would be fine, but your consultant wouldn't be available all the time you know? And his services will always be paid for every time, you can only make use of the experienced consultants for the starts so as to have knowledge of what you are about to do, and all that you will need, that's why you will need a business plan...you can't just start without a business plan. Know how much you wanna start up with and your consultant will be the one to work on that. You will need an experienced fish farmer to handle the job. Someone that would be on ground all the time. You know a consultant owns his farm and he wouldn't be on ground. Your capital? The start is just the hard part because you will be getting everything new, like getting the structures, construction of ponds and all that. After all that there wouldn't be much capital needed unless you want to expand your business (farm) and another secret is if you wanna get more profits, you should be able to manufacture your fish feeds (local feed) by yourself..and all that but hey there must be a very well detailed business plan before you commence. Thank you

Please I have 2 tonnes of table size catfish for sales...location Lagos state.
Contact me(whatsapp only pls)

Welcome, pls you can be my customer o. If you are ready to buy fish(juveniles hybrid) buy from us ooo. We deliver nationwide thank you

XiaoLi:
Thank you for the advise waleyp,this is duly noted.

XiaoLi:
Thank you for the advise waleyp,this is duly noted.

I will take it from where @ waleyp stopped....

First, know that the goal of this thread is to assist catfish farmers in every areas possible to succeed either as a newbie or practicing farmer. And if you go through the pages at inception, the likes of Robonski and others have virtually contributed immensely.

If anyone fails, frankly speaking, such should have himself/herself to blame.

I say it raw as it is......if you have a consultant and he advised you to start your first adventure this big....something is wrong......

If you had read my post here, one striking thing is farmers calling for buyers.....
*Do you have your own buyers?
*What is the demand for catfish in Anambra?
*How many farms are fully operational there?
*What's the market size of catfish there?
*Who are your competitors.....
*What feed is your consultant recommending..
*Where would you get your feeds for and its cost implications...

There are hundred and one questions your consultant should provide for you before we hear stories that touches and some failed inexperienced, acclaimed Ratfish farmer will come here again to spray nonsense

Candid professional advise, irrespective of your consultant profile, let him manage a small scale first for you to the point of sales.

The result will determine your next line of action.

And their are ways to do such......
Wish you best of luck

#AgroWealth

Will love to connect with you as I am a newbie, trying to establish a source of income from fish farm through the help of my friends who are willing to help as I am jobless. Can you kindly reach me on whatsapp pls?? 08139526515. Thanks in anticipation.

waleyp:
Welcome, pls you can be my customer o. If you are ready to buy fish(juveniles hybrid) buy from us ooo. We deliver nationwide thank you

Pls how much is per kg of table size fish right now.

No problem hmmmm were you the one that called me this morning?

geopappe:
Will love to connect with you as I am a newbie, trying to establish a source of income from fish farm through the help of my friends who are willing to help as I am jobless. Can you kindly reach me on whatsapp pls?? 08139526515. Thanks in anticipation.

Nope. Ae you the one your number ends with 175?

waleyp:
No problem hmmmm were you the one that called me this morning?