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Re: Trump Vs Merkel: White House Orders Withdrawal Of 9,500 US Troops From Germany by Smartypant: 5:40pm On Jun 07, 2020
CrazyOptimist:


Trump university- fraudulent university that later had to pay over $25m to ex students.

Trump airline nko

Anything he touches, fizzles out.
He has touched America for just over 3 years, see what's happening. If he gets another 4 years, then the whole world might fizzle out. WW111 maybe.

Trump is simply speeding up the demise of the American empire.
No empire last forever anyway, and scholars have argued on how long the US can stay on top for. There are varied views on how many more years it will take for another country to top the US in terms of economics, military and diplomatic power.
Unfortunately, Trump has become a catalyst at speeding up that demise, I thought it will take another 100 years before US will lose the top billing but with another 4 years of Trump, I can see that happening in the next 20 to 30 years.
Trump and Coronavirus have exposed the chinks in the US Armor.

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Re: Trump Vs Merkel: White House Orders Withdrawal Of 9,500 US Troops From Germany by Nobody: 5:49pm On Jun 07, 2020
Smartypant:


I beg see a retarded brainwashed fool. So you claimed that Microsoft filed for bankruptcy 2 times, but I'm the one that should provide evidence that they never did?
You have to be the dumbest fool on planet earth, you made a statement of fact, the onus is on you to back it up with evidence.
Anyone with an ounce of brain knows that anyone making such statement will need to back it up with facts not expect me to disprove it.
Microsoft NEVER filed for any bankruptcy hence you cannot find any evidence to back up your ignoramus dumb claim.
No wonder you are kissing Trump's ass, he's known for making asinine statements without any facts to back them up also.
Dumb imbecilic fool.
Next time, make sure you have evidence to back up your moronic statements or simply shut the FVCK up.
Microsoft never filed for bankruptcy Ion have time to reply to all those redundancies u called insults up there, I don't descend to d level of minorities and people whose knowledge are under my umbrella alright? You even saying Microsoft never filed for bankruptcy demystifies d level of ur own intellectual bankruptcy and explains how Lilliputian ur knowledge is about universal trailblazers, I'm not ready to provide evidences to tackle ur blind arguments, Google is ur friend, utilize it once in a while not using all ur time to do internet immoralities, Stupid VOY*EUR....I'm off bro, reply ur next comment yourself.
Re: Trump Vs Merkel: White House Orders Withdrawal Of 9,500 US Troops From Germany by CrazyOptimist: 5:51pm On Jun 07, 2020
If renown and respected Republicans like Former President Bush and Mitt Romney can publicly disapprove Donald Trump. Even a former Republican secretary of state - Collins Powell stated this morning publicly that he is voting for Biden. I wonder why one Nigerian who doesn't even have power to watch CNN or Foxnews, will sit down in a face me face you in Abule egba, and praise Trump on behalf of the American people.

By the way, the popular Neurosurgeon Ben Carson, who is a clear example of Trump's mismanagement (appointing Neurosurgeon as Secretary for Housing), is regretting associating himself with Trump. He made a lot of gaffes this morning on CNN.

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Re: Trump Vs Merkel: White House Orders Withdrawal Of 9,500 US Troops From Germany by Smartypant: 5:53pm On Jun 07, 2020
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Mrmourinho:

Microsoft never filed for bankruptcy Ion have time to reply to all those redundancies u called insults up there, I don't descend to d level of minorities and people whose knowledge are under my umbrella alright? You even saying Microsoft never filed for bankruptcy demystifies d level of ur own intellectual bankruptcy and explains how Lilliputian ur knowledge is about universal trailblazers, I'm not ready to provide evidences to tackle ur blind arguments, Google is ur friend, utilize it once in a while not using everything all ur time to do internet immoralities, Stupid Viewer....I'm off bro, reply ur next comment yourself.
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Just typed bunch of word without saying anything. Only an empty barrel can pull that off.
Pls GET LOST. OLODO
Re: Trump Vs Merkel: White House Orders Withdrawal Of 9,500 US Troops From Germany by rkarang: 5:53pm On Jun 07, 2020
Adek15:
I'd like to understand why US has military presence in almost every country on earth. Does other countries have their own military in US? Just asking for knowledge sake please.

Not all countries can defend themselves from external aggression.

So when you think of misbehaving, the fear of US soldiers comes to your mind.

In March, US Patriot missile defense system intercepted a missile targeted at Saudi Oil reservoir. What if US Patriot missile defense system wasn’t there?

Trust me, North Korea leader could have struck South Korea long ago but he knows a big price awaits him...

Too many wicked folks around the world. But they fear US drones grin grin

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Re: Trump Vs Merkel: White House Orders Withdrawal Of 9,500 US Troops From Germany by dominusgai(m): 6:13pm On Jun 07, 2020
StubbornGENIUS:
Forget whatever reason Trump gave cos this decision is a retaliation against the German Chancellor for thwarting the G-7 meeting.Unlike his "America First" campaign,he's now putting Trump first.Who knows,maybe he will wake tomorrow and decide to pull out from NATO.
Good day sir, please at the moment, can you list the benefits of NATO to USA?
Re: Trump Vs Merkel: White House Orders Withdrawal Of 9,500 US Troops From Germany by dominusgai(m): 6:17pm On Jun 07, 2020
cy4cent:


6 times actually. A billionaire that is fighting tooth and nail to hide his tax records.

https://www.thoughtco.com/donald-trump-business-bankruptcies-4152019

Please, can you tell me Obama's response when asked to show his tax record?
Re: Trump Vs Merkel: White House Orders Withdrawal Of 9,500 US Troops From Germany by dominusgai(m): 6:17pm On Jun 07, 2020
cy4cent:


6 times actually. A billionaire that is fighting tooth and nail to hide his tax records.

https://www.thoughtco.com/donald-trump-business-bankruptcies-4152019

Please can you tell me Obama's response when asked to show his tax record?
Re: Trump Vs Merkel: White House Orders Withdrawal Of 9,500 US Troops From Germany by OkikiOluwa1(m): 6:18pm On Jun 07, 2020
Reagan13:
US African Command is in Germany bro, they deploy from Germany to Africa when they want to help angry
I don't know about this. But I know Trump is too proud
Re: Trump Vs Merkel: White House Orders Withdrawal Of 9,500 US Troops From Germany by dominusgai(m): 6:20pm On Jun 07, 2020
Olominira:

Germany is in trouble. Russia has a deep rooted plan to invade and annex western Europe specifically Poland and Germany. China is mentioned I think they're wrong about that, if China would invade any country it would be Japan. Trump acts without thinking anyway. Trump leadership is one of the fastest way to destroy America.

Kindly note, Russia is not in anyway enemy of US. In fact, after second world war the money US lend Britain was given free of charge to Russia. UK just finished paying back in late 2017. Russia is specifically advancing her millitary because of western Europeans. America doesn't want that to happen that's the issue between Russia and the US.

Should it then be US's job to keep protecting Germany without anything in return? Please list all that America has benefited from rendering this service over the past years. I am open to learning.

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Re: Trump Vs Merkel: White House Orders Withdrawal Of 9,500 US Troops From Germany by rkarang: 6:20pm On Jun 07, 2020
Openbusiness:

Which damages? If anything, Trump has made the work easier for the 46th President and those after him. Why should America have 35,000 plus troops in Germany, doing what exactly other than incurring billions of USD in American taxpayer's money to be protecting another 1st world country that has its own military. Countries all over the world have abused the goodwill of the USA for too long, and exploited them at every turn like bloody fools, and the USA has always danced like a fool in the market just because they wanted to maintain a fake status quo of being the number 1 world super-power and also world police. It has cost them trillions of dollars, wasted money. Just imagine 35,000 plus troops in a place like Germany, and then you check, they have troops all over Europe, that's not enough, they are the one's footing 90% of NATO's bills, and let's not even cross over to Asia, and other continents, even Africa where they have over hundreds of thousands of troops distributed. And they are footing the bills. Still these countries still secretly hate America and want America destroyed. Germany should protect itself. Trump is even nice. If it were a president like me, i will withdraw US troops completely. Dia fada dey mad

You can’t just be generous without getting something of value in return. That’s a business mindset!

Do you know how it plays out when US places economic sanctions on countries? For instance, Iran has been begging for billions of dollars loan to fight CoVid 19...

So their allies act as actors in implementing US international policies
Re: Trump Vs Merkel: White House Orders Withdrawal Of 9,500 US Troops From Germany by dominusgai(m): 6:23pm On Jun 07, 2020
Bluntemperor:


and to do what at home? To shoot people at home.? Why can't you allow logic to play along this morning.Here is a man that lacks all ingredients of leadership in America history.Call him the true name.Today,instead of peace,he brought chaos.America is losing the grip of the World and it is gradual.

Please sir, what people did he order to be shot. Was it people at home, or people that went about looting. Next time someone tries to steal your property, wouldn't you call the police that has a gun?

Please point me to the place he said people at their homes should be shot.
Re: Trump Vs Merkel: White House Orders Withdrawal Of 9,500 US Troops From Germany by dominusgai(m): 6:30pm On Jun 07, 2020
sidieladaniel:
Oga calm down with your naveity u conservatives like Putin the dictator but hate communist China u can keep decieving urself. if u call Putin a great leader what will u call president xi of China that leading the world in most technological advancement. Russia help trump win 2016 election all US security forces have confirmed it even US republican controlled Senate.

Sir, if the intelligence of all the democrats before trump could not make that claim stick, how then are you still using it.

Let us agree for the sake of argument that Trump is dumb, are you telling me someone as dump as you claim he his can successfully colude with Russia in interfering with US elections and not have democrats who have spent over 15 years in office be able to find evidence of it?

You think am now.
Re: Trump Vs Merkel: White House Orders Withdrawal Of 9,500 US Troops From Germany by StubbornGENIUS: 6:31pm On Jun 07, 2020
dominusgai:

Good day sir, please at the moment, can you list the benefits of NATO to USA?
Many people quoted me on this thread and I ignored them cos had no point.You however asked a good question so here are 3 main reasons US needs NATO **1.NATO promotes peace within europe and deters major US adversaries from launching large scale conventional wars.**2.NATO is a force multiplier that gives the US access to military tools in greater numbers that it can achieve by itself. **3.NATO supports and protects the economies of europe,which are very critical to the health and stability of the US economy.
Re: Trump Vs Merkel: White House Orders Withdrawal Of 9,500 US Troops From Germany by dominusgai(m): 6:42pm On Jun 07, 2020
StubbornGENIUS:
Many people quoted me on this thread and I ignored them cos had no point.You however asked a good question so here are 3 main reasons US needs NATO **1.NATO promotes peace within europe and deters major US adversaries from launching large scale conventional wars.**2.NATO is a force multiplier that gives the US access to military tools in greater numbers that it can achieve by itself. **3.NATO supports and protects the economies of europe,which are very critical to the health and stability of the US economy.

Sir, so far so good the protection of NATO is not for US but the European countries. US alone can defend itself from any attack. As for the fallacy that NATO gives US access to military tools, that is simply untrue. In the years past US got their military upgrade from their budget which is not dependent or supported by NATO. There is not one military weapon gotten by US as a result of NATO, not one. The most tactical nation to US weapons system is Israel, and they are not part of NATO.

For the final one, Europe in the last decade has been buying less and less of American goods, so their downfall if it comes will not be as impactful to US as you think.

Besides that, point out benefits specific to America alone, none. So you expect US to spend the most for NATO, send the most soldiers and not get any direct benefit.
Re: Trump Vs Merkel: White House Orders Withdrawal Of 9,500 US Troops From Germany by Openbusiness: 6:46pm On Jun 07, 2020
rkarang:


You can’t just be generous without getting something of value in return. That’s a business mindset!

Do you know how it plays out when US places economic sanctions on countries? For instance, Iran has been begging for billions of dollars loan to fight CoVid 19...

So their allies act as actors in implementing US international policies

They can still do all that without US troops on German soil. The truth is USA just wants to be playing world police, that's the major reason they spread their forces across the world, and to use such display as an intimidation tactics for subduing other governments to dance to their tune.
Re: Trump Vs Merkel: White House Orders Withdrawal Of 9,500 US Troops From Germany by dominusgai(m): 6:49pm On Jun 07, 2020
solmus:



lol you are so naïve.. NATO funds most of this base, in middle east Saudi, UAE, Bahrain and Kuwait fund their bases there, and in SouthKorea alone , South Korea pays atleast $500m USD for a single American missile defense system.. the ones that are not paying in cash are getting their resources plundered by US

now to the implication of US pulling out of Germany... it is very simple, Russia and China and other communist allies would visit the old would of hitler and go after Germany, and Germany and its European allies would fight back, take out Germany European best economy then Europe might face a bad economic deression, and this is where it would hurt US badly.. Europe is one of US biggest trading partner

so Trumps move is stupid and anti American in the long run, if he pulls out Europe, and Iraq and Iran succeed in kicking him out of middle east, then world war is around the corner.. is this logical to have world war due to stupidity of hosting right of G7?

Do you really think US incapable of finding other partners that Europe?
Re: Trump Vs Merkel: White House Orders Withdrawal Of 9,500 US Troops From Germany by dominusgai(m): 6:51pm On Jun 07, 2020
solmus:
so says you bible

but according to world military ranking isreal doesn't even rank 1 to 3 in middle east, and they are bellow Iran in everything, if US pulls out of middle east, 2,million isreali would be wiped out like adolf hitler of Germany wiped them out in holocaust period

they are not rich, as their GDP cant even sustain a war, they solely depend on US for protection and even grants... you better use google and not bible



Yet that Israel is responsible for 70% of all upgrade in US defence system and were able to rubbish these nations you mentioned over 50 years ago. You think about that

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Re: Trump Vs Merkel: White House Orders Withdrawal Of 9,500 US Troops From Germany by dominusgai(m): 6:54pm On Jun 07, 2020
hermesprogidy:

Article of lies, just like he just quoted an imaginary figure in the 80s without a single MoV and they said he was the richest man in the world. Until he shows his tax returns, all those figures quoted in that wilkepedia page are pure lies.

Please sir, Obama was asked recently to show his tax returns, can you tell me what is response was?
Re: Trump Vs Merkel: White House Orders Withdrawal Of 9,500 US Troops From Germany by Bar1941(m): 7:01pm On Jun 07, 2020
Righteousness89:
GOD BLESS President Trump!

Charity begins at Home!

The Troops are needed more at Home now..

You always defend this monster senselessly thinking he's supporting your faith but the actual reality is that he's capitalising on your stupidity. You quote the bible every now and then on this platform yet you have never seen anything wrong in the way this oppressor is going! All you could type is " charity begins at home " so the troop should be brought home to attack the peaceful protesters? Make charity kii you there; YOU ARE A SHAME TO HUMANITY.

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Re: Trump Vs Merkel: White House Orders Withdrawal Of 9,500 US Troops From Germany by Righteousness89(m): 8:05pm On Jun 07, 2020
Bar1941:


You always defend this monster senselessly thinking he's supporting your faith but the actual reality is that he's capitalising on your stupidity. You quote the bible every now and then on this platform yet you have never seen anything wrong in the way this oppressor is going! All you could type is " charity begins at home " so the troop should be brought home to attack the peaceful protesters? Make charity kii you there; YOU ARE A SHAME TO HUMANITY.

You are A Blessing, My Brother to Humanity!
You will not die but live to Declare the Works of GOD In JESUS NAME
GOD BLESS U
GOD BLESS President Donald John Trump

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Re: Trump Vs Merkel: White House Orders Withdrawal Of 9,500 US Troops From Germany by solmus: 8:53pm On Jun 07, 2020
any factual link to that and not biblical play story


dominusgai:


Yet that Israel is responsible for 70% of all upgrade in US defence system and were able to rubbish these nations you mentioned over 50 years ago. You think about that

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Re: Trump Vs Merkel: White House Orders Withdrawal Of 9,500 US Troops From Germany by dominusgai(m): 10:41pm On Jun 07, 2020
solmus:


If you pull out your calculator, you would still get the "FACT" that Europe spends more than America in NATO, and US economy benefits the most from sales of weapon to NATO and payment of overhead of personells

That sir is simply not true.
Re: Trump Vs Merkel: White House Orders Withdrawal Of 9,500 US Troops From Germany by dominusgai(m): 10:43pm On Jun 07, 2020
solmus:
any factual link to that and not biblical play story


A simple google/Wikipedia search of Israel's GDP and battle for freedom about 50 years ago will do. Or is Wikipedia not credible enough a source for you?
Re: Trump Vs Merkel: White House Orders Withdrawal Of 9,500 US Troops From Germany by IDnoble1: 11:07pm On Jun 07, 2020
StubbornGENIUS:
Forget whatever reason Trump gave cos this decision is a retaliation against the German Chancellor for thwarting the G-7 meeting.Unlike his "America First" campaign,he's now putting Trump first.Who knows,maybe he will wake tomorrow and decide to pull out from NATO.
Why are the troops in Germany ,please? I just want to know

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