Some ancestors no get shame walahi, lying to their descendants anyhow.

UniportAgbero:


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Your Ancestors approached which ocean? Please does Port Harcourt have any bearing with the Atlantic ocean? Keep deceiving yourself. The only areas you'd meet the Atlantic ocean in Rivers State are the ijaw areas of Bonny, Kalabari, Opobo, parts of Okrika, Bille, Andoni, Kula.

Your Ancestors lied

All over the word, people from different tribes bear the same names at times. It just shows both tribes are related. E.g


Henri (French)= Henry (English)

Frank(French)= Frank (English)

Louis(French)= Louis (English)

Nicholas (French)= Nicholas (English)= Nicholas(Russian).







It may may be difficult to say one is a subset of the other if the subset disagree. You can NOT know a people more than themselves.

Princedapace:


Alright..

But how come you bear same names with the igbos, and speak same words? Pls I am not interested in political fights. I am only asking honest question and u can educate me.

oyatz:
All over the word, people from different tribes bear the same names at times. It just shows both tribes are related. E.g


Henri (French)= Henry (English)

Frank(French)= Frank (English)

Louis(French)= Louis (English)

Nicholas (French)= Nicholas (English)= Nicholas(Russian).







It may may be difficult to say one is a subset of the other if the subset disagree. You can NOT know a people more than themselves.

But u cant answer question for all! It is left for them individually to decide. That is where referedum comes into play. I have met some who identify them selves as Igbos.

SLAP44:
[s]The name of the city was Igweocha, named because when our ancestors were approaching the ocean, there are no more jungle land to provide cover, instead they will be seeing a open heaven where the ocean reflects skywards causing some heavy contrast. The next generation called it Pitakwa.

Igweocha should replace the imported name of Port Harcourt[/s].

Says an ipoo

There's nothing like Yaribansa in Hausa language, let alone meaning 'deceitful'

Your made in Onitsha, assembled in Aba propaganda is dead on arrival!


The first written record of the word 'Yoruba' was from a 15th century book written by the Shongahi Muslim, Baba Ahmed possibly derived from 'Oyo-Oba' meaning the Oyo King,which later encompassed the people the king led.

akdjr:
He has a point, but like the popular saying that Charity begins at home. I urge FFK whom I adore his knowledge as an historian to also tell his ethnic group to change their name from being addressed as "Yoruba". Have you always thought about where the word Yoruba originate? Have you heard many misconception and misapprehension that left you baffled? But his call for change of Port Harcourt made me want to make this clear to him.

What is the meaning of Yoruba? Does it have any inclination to their language? This is a thought provoking topic that needs profound reasoning and intense research for better understanding.


Hausa-Fulani who had been in contact with the FFK ethnic group even before the rise of Oyo Empire had for some reasons chosen to call them Yoruba, or Yaribansa (bastard and deceitful )
which later metamorphose to the name "Yoruba"

The Igbos had cleansed themselves off ‘Yinmiri’, a name the Hausa-Fulani had technically given to them. The igbos have today refuted Yinmiri to be a derogatory word, however, the reverse is the case for the Yoruba.


You can as well check the meaning from Yoruba dictionary or articles written by some Yoruba professors.

How does referendum comes into this?



Bros ,if you are one of the people that still truly believe that any Biafran referendum will hold, it's better you know the truth;


Nobody is conducting any referendum!

Neither the president, the National Assembly or the Judiciary has the power to conduct any referendum.
The Nigerian people have to sit down and insert a seccession clause by a way of referendum in the Constitution as suggested by Awolowo in the constitutional conferences in the 1950s.



. . . and the UN don't creat any Country.

Princedapace:


But u cant answer question for all! It is left for them individually to decide. That is where referedum comes into play. I have met some who identify them selves as Igbos.

There are over 300 tribes in Nigeria, why will they hate only tribe and incidentally that tribe is the one that live all over the country?






My brother, Nigerians love Igbos!

Biafrannuke:
If you go through this thread carefully, you'll agree with me that most Nigerians suffer from an anti Igbo disorder.

Most likely, some modern Igbos originated from Ekpeyes and Ikwerres (even though, IPOB Igbos are from Ancient Israel) because their languages sound like ancient versions of Igbos.

DeeMain:


Exactly the same thing in Igbo.

Nyesom = Onye som = the person that follows me.

Ezebunwo = Eze bu nwa or Nwa bu eze = Child who is a king/ king who is still a child.

It is the same name Nwabueze in Igboland.

Stop saying what you don't know and be displaying your ignorance.

Ogun State was named after Ogun River that runs from Oyo State through Ogun State and finally Lagos State before emptying into the Atlantic ocean through the Lagoon.


Ogun River is different from Ogun (the god of Iron/metals) which is also different from Shongo the god of thunder.

Back2Daura:
ABEG LEAVE PORT HARCOURT FOR US. GO AND CHANGE OGUN IT IS KNOWN AS THUNDER IN YORUBA.. EVEN OSOGBO NEEDS NAME CHANGE TOO.

oyatz:
How does referendum comes into this?



Bros ,if you are one of the people that still truly believe that any Biafran referendum will hold, it's better you know the truth;


Nobody is conducting any referendum!

Neither the president, the National Assembly or the Judiciary has the power to conduct any referendum.
The Nigerian people have to sit down and insert a seccession clause by a way of referendum in the Constitution as suggested by Awolowo in the constitutional conferences in the 1950s.



. . . and the UN don't creat any Country.

My brother, I only made a suggestion, and nothing is impossible in this life. The only constant thing in life is change. So, if it is the will of God for the country to break apart, surely, it will. If the steps needed for something like referendum is what is needed and nature has made signed it that it will take place, surely it will take place. Only one thing I'm sure of bro, Nigeria will not remain like this forever!

Not possible, not with the way the country is been governed. It will only get to a point!

DeltaBachelor:
Oga, whether you agree or not, I have just stated the fact. You can't call ANIOMA people Ndigbo please. I am not putting anybody in a bad light. I am just stating the obvious. There is no way Nigeria can divide. But in the event that it does, ANIOMA people can not join your sick BIAFRA revolution. There , I said it . Are you happy now ?.

Cheers

oboy shut up, useless Ogun state boy that is claiming "we south south" come and make us join afonja republic after we ran away from western region to form our mid-west.hopeless parasites...

oyatz:
How does referendum comes into this?



Bros ,if you are one of the people that still truly believe that any Biafran referendum will hold, it's better you know the truth;


Nobody is conducting any referendum!

Neither the president, the National Assembly or the Judiciary has the power to conduct any referendum.
The Nigerian people have to sit down and insert a seccession clause by a way of referendum in the Constitution as suggested by Awolowo in the constitutional conferences in the 1950s.



. . . and the UN don't creat any Country.

stop been a hopeless parasites,will your tribe die if you clamour for afonja republic..I wonder why you people dread staying alone no body believed eritea will become independent but look at them now...Biafra is almost here and it will shock you parasites...

You are mostly one of these Indomie generation kids on Nairaland, usually surplus on emotion but deficit in logic.


All these your 'parasites' stuff is stale and doesn't reflect deep understanding of how Nations work.

ALL parts of Nigeria are blessed and have existed before Nigeria and we continue to exist after Nigeria if this country disintegrate.


REALITY CHECK;

1) Who exactly will order the conduct of the referendum?

(a) President
(b) National Assembly
(c) IPOB
(d) United Nations
(e) Donald Trump + Jews

2) Who are eligible to vote in the referendum?

(a) Any adult living in the S/East
(b) Only members of defined tribes- who is an Igbo man? Who is not an Igboman?
(c) All Peoples from willing States whereever they may be in Nigeria whether Zamfara, Lagos or Abuja.

3) On which UNAMBIGUOUS Geographic territories will the referendum be conducted?

(a) Old Eastern Region
(b) Any territory demanded by Nnamdi Kanu/IPOB
(c) Igboland
(d) The present five States in the S/East



4) What will be the options on the referendum ballots?

(a) One Nigieria

(b) Biafran

(c) A totally different Independent country

Deebwebb:
stop been a hopeless parasites,will your tribe die if you clamour for afonja republic..I wonder why you people dread staying alone no body believed eritea will become independent but look at them now...Biafra is almost here and it will shock you parasites...

oyatz:
You are mostly one of these Indomie generation kids on Nairaland, usually surplus on emotion but deficit in logic.


All these your 'parasites' stuff is stale and doesn't reflect deep understanding of how Nations work.

ALL parts of Nigeria are blessed and have existed before Nigeria and we continue to exist after Nigeria if this country disintegrate.


REALITY CHECK;

1) Who exactly will order the conduct of the referendum?

(a) President
(b) National Assembly
(c) IPOB
(d) United Nations
(e) Donald Trump + Jews

2) Who are eligible to vote in the referendum?

(a) Any adult living in the S/East
(b) Only members of defined tribes- who is an Igbo man? Who is not an Igboman?
(c) All Peoples from willing States whereever they may be in Nigeria whether Zamfara, Lagos or Abuja.

3) On which UNAMBIGUOUS Geographic territories will the referendum be conducted?

(a) Old Eastern Region
(b) Any territory demanded by Nnamdi Kanu/IPOB
(c) Igboland
(d) The present five States in the S/East



4) What will be the options on the referendum ballots?

(a) One Nigieria

(b) Biafran

(c) A totally different Independent country

what type of nonsense question are these go and ask Ethiopia that gave Eritrea referendum how they did it .we had Biafra before the British came. all igboid will join plus any ally that wants in and existed inside old Biafra..but i prefer pure igboid biafra,but with the number of non-Igbo's calling mazi KANU and ekpa Simeon in Facebook during live show i will reserve my thought.. Nigeria will never work out..the fulanis own nigeria and will never restructure it, they rather die than restructure, not even a south president can do it.. I think we should blame you failures since you are one of the old people that failed the new generation..anybody against Biafra is a parasite that can't stay without others...all the men that made Nigeria history were all young guys.so step aside old man and watch us write our own history too...

The problem with guys like you is that you don't read wide.

1) Eritrea was an existing 'country' before being formally annexed by Ethiopia in 1962 leading to a 30 year civil war with Ethiopia. The referendum was a Politically agreed solution following series of negotions to end the armed insurection.

2) There was no Kingdom/Empire or Country known as Biafra before 1914.

If you believe the IPOB naked lie that Biafra had existed before Nigeria, then State the Capital and past Presidents/Kings or Emperors of Biafra, their currency, boundaries and treaties signed with British, Franch or German Colonial agents or other Nations.


3) Nobody failed you or your generation. You only have yourselves to blame for your shortcomings and inadequacies.

4) The questions are part of the reality check to wake you up from your utopian dreams.


5) There's nothing sacrosanct about Nigerian unity.
Unity just like love can NOT be enforced. If the people of Nigeria don't want to leave together, their LEADERS will come together to separate the country.

6) The agitations of Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB is based on preaching hatred for other Nigerians especially the Yorubas and Fulanis and it can not achieve any results.

Deebwebb:
what type of nonsense question are these go and ask Ethiopia that gave Eritrea referendum how they did it .we had Biafra before the British came. all igboid will join plus any ally that wants in and existed inside old Biafra..but i prefer pure igboid biafra,but with the number of non-Igbo's calling mazi KANU and ekpa Simeon in Facebook during live show i will reserve my thought.. Nigeria will never work out..the fulanis own nigeria and will never restructure it, they rather die than restructure, not even a south president can do it.. I think we should blame you failures since you are one of the old people that failed the new generation..anybody against Biafra is a parasite that can't stay without others...all the men that made Nigeria history were all young guys.so step aside old man and watch us write our own history too...

oyatz:
The problem with guys like you is that you don't read wide.

1) Eritrea was an existing 'country' before being formally annexed by Ethiopia in 1962 leading to a 30 year civil war with Ethiopia. The referendum was a Politically agreed solution following series of negotions to end the armed insurection.

2) There was no Kingdom/Empire or Country known as Biafra before 1914.

If you believe the IPOB naked lie that Biafra had existed before Nigeria, then State the Capital and past Presidents/Kings or Emperors of Biafra, their currency, boundaries and treaties signed with British, Franch or German Colonial agents or other Nations.


3) Nobody failed you or your generation. You only have yourselves to blame for your shortcomings and inadequacies.

4) The questions are part of the reality check to wake you up from your utopian dreams.


5) There's nothing sacrosanct about Nigerian unity.
Unity just like love can NOT be enforced. If the people of Nigeria don't want to leave together, their LEADERS will come together to separate the country.

6) The agitations of Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB is based on preaching hatred for other Nigerians especially the Yorubas and Fulanis and it can not achieve any results.

oboy you are wasting your time,I can see you are one of the parasites that dread staying alone..imagine saying Biafra never existed,something on many maps even before Nigeria..you are obviously an illiterate who don't read but rather talk like you know anything but you don't,anyway keep daydreaming Biafra will come and they you can go and die...boasting with a failed country like Nigeria..

Eeyah, see what frustrations has caused in the life of this boy.




It's obvious you aren't well educated and well brought up.


So anything written on a map denote a Nation?

Biafra was a REGION (Just like saying Middle East or Niger Delta) in the Maps of Portuguese Sailors and Explorers trying to explore the Western Coast of Africa in the 16th century.

The ways you guys scream 'Parasites' is most laughable. Who are you feeding and who is feeding from your table?

Your Region contribute little to the federation account and take much, yet you scream 'Parasites' every now and then.

Even the Ijaws, Ibibios and Ogonis never scream 'Parasites' like this!

I support the disintegration of Nigeria 100% .




Better start improving yourself and be useful to your generation instead of waiting for an elusive Utopian country where all evils will cease to exist.

Deebwebb:
oboy you are wasting your time,I can see you are one of the parasites that dread staying alone..imagine saying Biafra never existed,something on many maps even before Nigeria..you are obviously an illiterate who don't read but rather talk like you know anything but you don't,anyway keep daydreaming Biafra will come and they you can go and die...boasting with a failed country like Nigeria..

oyatz:
Eeyah, see what frustrations has caused in the life of this boy.




It's obvious you aren't well educated and well brought up.


So anything written on a map denote a Nation?

Biafra was a REGION (Just like saying Middle East or Niger Delta) in the Maps of Portuguese Sailors and Explorers trying to explore the Western Coast of Africa in the 16th century.

The ways you guys scream 'Parasites' is most laughable. Who are you feeding and who is feeding from your table?

Your Region contribute little to the federation account and take much, yet you scream 'Parasites' every now and then.

Even the Ijaws, Ibibios and Ogonis never scream 'Parasites' like this!

I support the disintegration of Nigeria 100% .




Better start improving yourself and be useful to your generation instead of waiting for an elusive Utopian country where all evils will cease to exist.

you support disintegration audio support....I have never seen a region that dread staying alone like the Yorubas,with the so called development and Lagos you clowns have, you all should want disintegration,but reverse is the case...or are you guys really parasite that need us as host to survive..even some northerners want disintegration,but you clowns still believe in Nigeria,when even the blind knows Nigeria will never work out believe one thing niger area you ewedus call Nigeria will crumble before your very eyes...

SLAP44:


Wike knows FFK is telling the truth so his response will be to do the right thing and rename the city according to its old name of Igweocha.

Nobody can unilaterally change the name of any state capital in Nigeria without violating the Constitution because all state capitals are specifically mentioned in the Constitution