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Igbo presidency can solve all this problems we are facing here.

Coldie:
That's not the reason, like as a result of unemployment and rural urban migration.

what I mean is the nature of the settlement...the nature of settlement of se is different from sw for example...a random look through google earth will explain what I mean

Coldie:
Igbo presidency can solve all this problems we are facing here.

true but e go hard die to achieve

Coldie:
Igbo presidency can solve all this problems we are facing here.

will solve nada

proeast:
You really must be a paid sycophant to be saying all these trash. I was in secondary school in 1999 when Orji Uzor contested against Eze Ogbulafor. His deputy then Enyinaya Abaribe used to visit his friend who was our neighbor then.

Orji Uzor tarred some roads in "Town" area of Aba then, especially those roads off East Street and some others during his first tenure and people were hailing him action governor. Fast forward to his second tenure and he was nowhere to be found and all those roads went bad.

Sanitation problem did not start today, it was equally present then.

If he had ended his bad governance in 2007, it would have been bad enough but he went the extra mile of trying to become a godfather along with his mother.

The mother was living in Aba then and people had to go her house whether commissioners, contractors etc to seek her blessings. There was even a popular mantra then about "...igaala na nke mma Orji Uzor ga gbaa egwusi?..."

TA Orji was foisted on ndi Abia by Orji Uzor. TA was his chief of staff and he was picked up by EFCC for questioning during that time but Orji Uzor rigged him in.

Orji Uzor's 8 years and TA Orji's 8 years were the locust years that destroyed Abia.

I'm through with you.

asha80:
will solve nada

What we see here would be a child's play that what we can achieve with Igbo Presidency

We will blow there minds

You can not be smarter than your shadow...no matter how many times you duplicate your moniker.....your tendencies will surely fish you out.

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Coldie:
Wasup delete that comment

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asha80:
what I mean is the nature of the settlement...the nature of settlement of se is different from sw for example...a random look through google earth will explain what I mean

You are right. The Southwest adopted centralized settlement which actually created space for forest preservation and availability of large cimmunal lands for farming. The Southeast has a pattern of settlement that wastes land

Abagworo:
You are right. The Southwest adopted centralized settlement which actually created space for forest preservation and availability of large cimmunal lands for farming. The Southeast has a pattern of settlement that wastes land

As in ehn, land that we don't have in surplus. government needs to adopt some socialism tactics , they should take hold of the lands and make sure people only build what is required in that particular location. That way farm land would be available, and forest reserve would still remain.

Yampotatocarrot:
that's good. Let them check out the road leading to Nekede zoo also, last time I went to the zoo, the road was pretty bad

Nwanne, I'm praying for that road too, as it leads to a property dear to me

Abagworo:
You are right. The Southwest adopted centralized settlement which actually created space for forest preservation and availability of large cimmunal lands for farming. The Southeast has a pattern of settlement that wastes land

I don't entirely agree with this.
Like most part of the SE, the SW isn't planned around major settlements.
Just happens that the SW has so much land mass compared with SE.
Like the SE, the Yorubas also site their rural settlements in close proximity to pre-existing ones for security reasons.

They just have more fallow, uncultivated land, which the SE doesn't.

proeast:
You're right. I was shocked when I got to village in Mbaise and discovered that lands in interior communities now goes for as high as one million naira!! I mean lands in a rural community!!

I think very high population density is causing it and areas around Mbaise and Owerri is highly populated.

You're not exaggerating. I have witnessed this first hand.
But then, I know people who are snapping up lands around there, especially in places with close proximity to Afọr-Oru Market. Which is how I got to know the very scary price that a small piece of land commands around there.
This person told me that, if I think land is expensive now, then I should wait for 10 years

One other reason why land tend to be expensive is from the way land is fragmented to be shared among siblings. For instance, a piece of land no bigger than a plot may be owned by 3 brothers who inherited it from their father.
One may decide to sell his own portion, while the others aren't ready to sell yet. To induce them to sell, a potential buyer will have to offer something above the prevalent market price. Once the transaction is sealed, others who own lands around there take note of the price at which it was sold and that becomes the price at which adjourning lands are pegged.

Bottom line, prices are driven upwards by short supply and the sentiments attached to land.

Which makes me laugh when ignorant folks from the SW say that Igbos don't sell land to non Igbos. The very few who dared were scared shitless from the high price, and felt it was a ploy to dissuade them from buying lands in alaigbo.

Scenes from the #endrape rally

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Coldie:
To me it starts from the govt before private citizens can be focused on, I dont see why alot of govt properties will be covering acres of land. A a high rise, with the last floor been used as parking space, not where after using plots to build the building u then use another plot for parking space.

The mid entire floor would be the hall, while the upper floor is the offices.

I think your meant ground floor, not last floor for parking garage. You know, I don't know why they ain't thinking in your direction.

Southeast isn't Northern Nigeria that can afford indiscriminate usage of land because they have an enormous supply of land. Imo state is lucky to have some high-rise buildings, government just needs to buy into the idea also. You'll even see some agencies that have less than 50 people working there occupying over 2 plots of land.

Mehn we need a rethink jare

SmartPolician:
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Put simply, we have so demonized agriculture in southern Nigeria that most of us see it as poor people's business. True, agriculture is predominantly subsistence here.

However, there's a value reorientation now as a lot of young people are increasingly going into agribusinesses, especially in the South West

We definitely have smart people on this thread, Kudos bro.

We have so demonized agriculture... That's a fact

We have a lot of value orientation going on among youths in South West... Another fact.

Look at what young people in southwest are doing in Agriculture, you'll marvel. Nobody should tell me it's because of the market, because I know people eat in EVERY PART OF THE COUNTRY.

Yet, go to relief market Owerri, and you'll find out our people rely on food crops all the way from the north, EVEN VEGETABLES. In all my study and even farm groups I am a member of, I haven't seen any tomato farm situated in the east among other things. Even most vegetable farming in the east occurs during the rainy season, once the rains subside, we go back to depending on truckload of vegetables from the North

Thank God our people are going into poultry business now, but we really need more.

Coldie:
Especially in the southwest and north.

I have said it before and I will say it again, the SE might have a small land mass but under Nigeria we do not. If we ad igbos can cone together to reason, why not we join forces together, to not just use our surplus lands for agriculture, but also buy up lands of border states and use it for agriculture.

Some states still have surplus lands we buy them use them as farms, setup the processing factories in the Igbo hinterland and farm the lands as they supply our factories a win win situation

Same system previous Lagos state government used with Kwara state that gave birth to Lake Rice. Who ever knew such initiative was possible

Yampotatocarrot:
We definitely have smart people on this thread, Kudos bro.

We have so demonized agriculture... That's a fact

We have a lot of value orientation going on among youths in South West... Another fact.

Look at what young people in southwest are doing in Agriculture, you'll marvel. Nobody should tell me it's because of the market, because I know people eat in EVERY PART OF THE COUNTRY.

Yet, go to relief market Owerri, and you'll find out our people rely on food crops all the way from the north, EVEN VEGETABLES. In all my study and even farm groups I am a member of, I haven't seen any tomato farm situated in the east among other things. Even most vegetable farming in the east occurs during the rainy season, once the rains subside, we go back to depending on truckload of vegetables from the North

Thank God our people are going into poultry business now, but we really need more.

that they are going into poultry is a sign in the positive direction

asha80:
enyi stop these your noise making..you were the one shouting up and down that it is good ihedioha has been removed from hope that ihedioha was only focusing on owerri..now hope is there so go to the right quarters and complain and stop these nonsense behaviour here

So you remember... Lol

whirlwind7:
You're not exaggerating. I have witnessed this first hand.
But then, I know people who are snapping up lands around there, especially in places with close proximity to Afọr-Oru Market. was a ploy to dissuade them from buying lands in alaigbo.

You know Afor-Oru market? You be area o... Lol

Question now becomes, is there any area in Imo state where one can get land that is FERTILE enough for agriculture? Someone already mentioned that Okigwe area is out of it cos of the rocky nature of the ground there. Which area can one face now?

sanctity454:
Scenes from the #endrape rally

Looooooooooooooooooool, this looks more like a campaign for Uzodinma... Must they bring him in? We talking serious issue, @rape, these ones are bringing Uzodinma into it

Yampotatocarrot:
You know Afor-Oru market? You be area o... Lol

Question now becomes, is there any area in Imo state where one can get land that is FERTILE enough for agriculture? Someone already mentioned that Okigwe area is out of it cos of the rocky nature of the ground there. Which area can one face now?

As for fertility, that isn't guaranteed. But since you can make a barren land fertile yourself, it shouldn't be the main yardstick for purchasing farmland in the SE where it is in short supply.
Not all part of Okigwe is rocky. If you get reasonable offers there, go and inspect the land to see the amount of stones in it.

I learnt about farmlands for sale at Mgbidi over 3 years ago, but I didn't follow up due to lack of funds. Not sure they are still available now. Also learnt about lands at Okigwe, after Umulolo. My inlaw went to check it out, but was a bit discouraged due to it's remoteness. He wanted something close by a good road. But lands like that would be too costly.
I got info on lands at Eziobodo. Want to send someone to inspect and give me feedback, then I can decide.
Generally, farmlands would cost about 200k per plot and above.

For me, I'm not averse to farmland any location in the SE, so long as the place is easily accessible and motorable.
Only thing I'm wary of is the menace of herdsmen.

whirlwind7:
I got info on lands at Eziobodo. Want to send someone to inspect and give me feedback, then I can decide.
Generally, farmlands would cost about 200k per plot and above.
Only thing I'm wary of is the menace of herdsmen.

Yeah, you are correct about making the land fertile yourself. However, I haven't heard any news about herdsmen in Imo so I don't really think that should be an issue.

I don't think there is anywhere in Imo lands will go for 200k, even in the hinterlands. I stand to be corrected though

stop taking codeine as a diet

Coldie:
Igbo presidency can solve all this problems we are facing here.

GEJman:
stop taking codeine as a diet

You can actually make a point without sounding so unintelligent and insulting.

To do that, use a superior argument to show him that what he suggested is not feasible and that you aren't the one taking codeine because you just sounded like you do.

Yampotatocarrot:
Yeah, you are correct about making the land fertile yourself. However, I haven't heard any news about herdsmen in Imo so I don't really think that should be an issue.

I don't think there is anywhere in Imo lands will go for 200k, even in the hinterlands. I stand to be corrected though

For u to say this that means u are not current

Igbos we need to be against secession.

Be against restructuring.

Be against resource control.

I just found out today that Aguiyi ironsi was the best thing that ever happened to Igbo land.

We need to place all resources and waterways in the hands of the FG.

Theres this plan I have, that I know that Biafra cannot give us but the federal government of Nigeria can, it will change the fortunes of Igbo land for the better.

Coldie:
For u to say this that means u are not current

Mehn, that's a big problem o. The way out will probably be to ban open grazing as some states did

Coldie:
Igbos we need to be against secession.

Be against restructuring.

Be against resource control.

I just found out today that Aguiyi ironsi was the best thing that ever happened to Igbo land.

Be against restructuring and resource control? Can you explain your reasons for this, please?

Yampotatocarrot:
Be against restructuring and resource control? Can you explain your reasons for this, please?

I just discovered that if there was to restructuring it won't benefit us in anyway. It will only benefit the west and the south south. With the way these two regions have been acting it seems to be all man to himself, so I think we should be laying down our own plans.

If we push for an extra state, it cabr be created from the east cause our quota is complete.

We had 2regions then 3 then 4 and it went on.

Right now in the south in state creation the former eastern region has more States than the former western region.

East has 9 while the west has 8, do the math on what will happen in the next state creation.

Unless they create anioma state and zone it to the SE, we have nothing to gain from restructuring.