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Re: Does God Really Exist by Hermes119: 7:55pm On Jun 22, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:
Yeah, Religion is a Lie but The Lord God, is Mighty and True and Everlasting!!!
What am I missing ?

Christians are claiming Atheism is a religion and at the same time are saying Christianity is not a religion,I don't understand what is religion ?
Re: Does God Really Exist by Hermes119: 7:57pm On Jun 22, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:
You were there, yesterday and since Friday when I Stood Strong on Only One Ground I Presented and You and all of Your Yous Could Not Answer Me nor Take Me Down.

God was, is and Forever Established!

Let me duck, my early warning missile detection has been activated! Insults Incoming! "Brace for Impact"
God exists but u are the one doing the talking defending him
Re: Does God Really Exist by Hermes119: 7:59pm On Jun 22, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:
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Yet mine IS ALWAYS ALWAYS AND ALWAYS ANSWERED and My Desires, Even That which I did not know to Ask was Given. And This is True.

Let me put it straight to you and everyone out there, without mincing words, playing up to your hopes and expectations and without regard to whomsoever is going to be hurt by it;

If You Do Not Listen to His Commandments, Understand Them so that You Can Correctly and Accurately Obey Them,

You Are Only Going To Manage The Sprinkles of His Great Goodness.

Abraham's Blessings Shall Not Be Yours.

And the Result is that You Must say that There is no God! Or That God Does Not Answer Prayers or Any Other Foolishness which Abounds plentifully in You All.
Did u ask God to bring back the Chibok girls ?
Answer sincerely
Re: Does God Really Exist by Hermes119: 8:02pm On Jun 22, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:
First, Amputee means he had a Limb and he lost it.

Now, the idiot prays and every other idiot prays to God for the restoration of his limb.

Why?

Do Chickens not lose a limb, did they stop being chickens or did you not read that every dove that we kill for every purpose, He knows?

He made us so strong that even if we have a defect, life will still be sweet, if you want it to be sweet?

So such miracles are not necessary and He is not A God who does The Unnecessaries and Vanities.

So, it is a Stupid Prayer that Shall ALMOST NEVER Be Answered!

But Foolish Man does not know and neither would his equally foolish pastor tell him.



Of course they are wrong.

Like you, they lack understanding (All men think or should think or are capable of thinking and arriving at a conclusion but Understanding is Given By the Lord Himself) and therefore, they foolishly say that the Bible contradicts itself.

Thou shall not tempt and test the Lord thy God are not the same thing.

Thou shall not tempt or test the Lord- in Nigerian English, It means Do Not Lay Traps for Him or you get one Bad Plan for mind or Cunnings, Deceits and Lies in your soul, for your mind, you think say He be like man say Him know go know!

What a very Foolish Man, you NEVER REMEMBER that God Always, Always Hears Your Thoughts (or Mind as you na dey take talk), Sees Your Minds and Even the best One, Your Mind Go Visit Am first, before E kom meet you.

So Fools keep trying to beat that.

Your pastor still no go tell you dis one.

test the Lord thy God- simply means Give Him A Try or Trial. In Nigerian English, it means say make you try Am make you see as E take be.

No contradictions.

And na una pastor duty to tell una dis things since say E talk say E dey hear from God!
Nawa ooh

This is something we see all the time

In a bid to defend irrational beliefs you always run into problems

Look at a sane human being saying that an amputee wishing for his limb to be restored is unnecessary and even called hum an idiot and even went ahead to compare that to a chicken, so to you a human losing his limb is no better than a chicken losing its limb
wooow

I'm disappointed
Re: Does God Really Exist by Hermes119: 8:02pm On Jun 22, 2020
maynia:
Chai, see wetin religion dey do to you

Total nonsense
I swear bro this is so so disappointing
Re: Does God Really Exist by Dtruthspeaker: 8:15pm On Jun 22, 2020
Hermes119:
God exists but u are the one doing the talking defending him
grin Yeah, I'm His Lawyer
Re: Does God Really Exist by Dtruthspeaker: 8:17pm On Jun 22, 2020
Hermes119:
Did u ask God to bring back the Chibok girls ?
Answer sincerely
I Always Answer sincerely, so, No, I did not and will not!
Re: Does God Really Exist by Dtruthspeaker: 8:19pm On Jun 22, 2020
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Hermes119:
Nawa ooh

This is something we see all the time

In a bid to defend irrational beliefs you always run into problems

Look at a sane human being saying that an amputee wishing for his limb to be restored is unnecessary and even called hum an idiot and even went ahead to compare that to a chicken, so to you a human losing his limb is no better than a chicken losing its limb
wooow

I'm disappointed
grin Be Disappointed. You never appointed me!
Re: Does God Really Exist by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:21pm On Jun 22, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:
Tueh! I do no shit called religion. Religion is a Fraud and a Lie!
What is the intent of your God?

Re: Does God Really Exist by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:23pm On Jun 22, 2020
bigname23:
bros it takes faith to get answers from God, my advice for u will be to get materials (books,tapes) that will build ur faith..but personally from experience I can tell u God exists ..if nor b God men like us for nor dey alive 2day..based on wetin we don see for dis life..we nor 2 day pray like dat but we dey experience grace on a constant
Are you trying to say you have now become immortal.
Re: Does God Really Exist by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:24pm On Jun 22, 2020
Hermes119:
What am I missing ?

Christians are claiming Atheism is a religion and at the same time are saying Christianity is not a religion,I don't understand what is religion ?
He doesn't know he need to seek help.
Re: Does God Really Exist by OgaVoltron: 8:27pm On Jun 22, 2020
LawBreaker:
Does God really exist? I have been praying to God for one particular issue but am not getting answer, instead the situation gets messy. I am even tired and I am beginning to lose hope that pray truly works. I am beginning to lose trust that God exists and all that. Please correct if am wrong.
Whatever the issue, Remember, even that will pass away. Do your best & keep a positive mindset. That works more than prayers. Even prayers can be explained under laws of attraction. The Gods that answered prayers in the past have gone & may never return.
Re: Does God Really Exist by bigname23: 8:33pm On Jun 22, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
Are you trying to say you have now become immortal.
Bros u smoke? ..or did I say anything about being immortal there?...guy abeg mind ur biz evening oh.
Re: Does God Really Exist by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:50pm On Jun 22, 2020
bigname23:
Bros u smoke? ..or did I say anything about being immortal there?...guy abeg mind ur biz evening oh.
But no matter how much you live, old age will still get you, I've never seen a miracle of someone coming to youth from old age.
Re: Does God Really Exist by Martinez39s(m): 8:53pm On Jun 22, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:
First, Amputee means he had a Limb and he lost it.

Now, the idiot prays and every other idiot prays to God for the restoration of his limb.

Why?

Do Chickens not lose a limb, did they stop being chickens or did you not read that every dove that we kill for every purpose, He knows?

He made us so strong that even if we have a defect, life will still be sweet, if you want it to be sweet?

So such miracles are not necessary and He is not A God who does The Unnecessaries and Vanities.

So, it is a Stupid Prayer that Shall ALMOST NEVER Be Answered!

But Foolish Man does not know and neither would his equally foolish pastor tell him.
The bible clearly stated that one should ask and one shall receive. It also stated again that whatsoever a man asks of god in prayer believing, he shall receive. The bible made it clear and simple: ask, believe, and receive. grin grin How then is it stupid or out of place for an amputee to ask for the restoration of his amputated limb? Rather than admit the bible is wrong, you make up excuses and foist additional meanings and interpretations on the bible, all for the aim of self-deception.

Addressing your laughable excuses on why god doesn't (or perhaps can't grin) restore amputated limbs, I would like to ask how you as a christian can compare something supposedly made in god's image to a chicken. grin grin cheesy How can you compare something Jesus supposedly suffered and died for to a chicken? grin grin If Jesus, who does the will of god always, can grant lepers, lame folks, deaf folks, the blind, folks with withered limbs, etc their miracles, how is it stupid, or against the will of god, to grant an amputee his/her missing limb(s)? grin grin grin By your own logic, shouldn't Jesus have ignored those people because their ailments didn't stop them from being human beings? undecided grin cheesy shouldn't Jesus have ignored them since he made them strong in their defects, and life could be sweet for them if they wanted it to be? You make me laugh. grin

By the way, how is the restoration of an amputated limb(s) an unnecessary thing or vanity? Are you serious? undecided See how insensitive, callous, and detached from reality your religion has made you become? So if Mr. James is a surgeon that feeds his family (a stay-at-home wife, and two young kids) from his salary, and he had his two hands amputated in an accident, do you think the restoration of his limb is unnecessary and a vanity to any sane god/human? undecided

grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Does God Really Exist by Hermes119: 8:55pm On Jun 22, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:
I Always Answer sincerely, so, No, I did not and will not!
Okay
Re: Does God Really Exist by bigname23: 9:00pm On Jun 22, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
But no matter how much you live, old age will still get you, I've never seen a miracle of someone coming to youth from old age.
dey dere dey wait for miracle for immortality..my own is God is blessing me with d things I need in life...wen d time cums for me to go and b United with him..den I will go ...nd if nor b oluwa men for don fall for d street ...oluwa thank u oh ...in d words of 2baba..d breath of life na ur own.
Re: Does God Really Exist by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:12pm On Jun 22, 2020
bigname23:
dey dere dey wait for miracle for immortality..my own is God is blessing me with d things I need in life...wen d time cums for me to go and b United with him..den I will go ...nd if nor b oluwa men for don fall for d street ...oluwa thank u oh ...in d words of 2baba..d breath of life na ur own.
But all what your God is giving you, others are getting it by simply being born in a better county.
Re: Does God Really Exist by bigname23: 9:18pm On Jun 22, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
But all what your God is giving you, others are getting it by simply being born in a better county.
but it doesn't change the fact he is still giving me in dis messed up country..not just d country self ...from a rough background in a poor country ...infact dat gives me more reasons to b grateful to him
Re: Does God Really Exist by LordReed(m): 9:18pm On Jun 22, 2020
Martinez39s:
See how insensitive, callous, and detached from reality your religion has made you become?
This is the most dangerous part of religious delusion. It is the thing that makes people sacrifice their children or blow themselves and others up. See here this guy now saying someone yearning for wholeness in their body is being vain, how deluded can you get?
Re: Does God Really Exist by Martinez39s(m): 9:25pm On Jun 22, 2020
LordReed:
This the most dangerous part of religious delusion. It is the thing that makes people sacrifice their children or blow themselves and others up. See here this guy now saying someone yearning for wholeness in their body is being vain, how deluded can you get?
I am not even surprised at his statements. It's not uncommon for the religious to be selfish, insensitive, and detached from reality.
Re: Does God Really Exist by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:39pm On Jun 22, 2020
bigname23:
but it doesn't change the fact he is still giving me in dis messed up country..not just d country self ...from a rough background in a poor country ...infact dat gives me more reasons to b grateful to him
What if I tell you God is not a determining factor for success in life, all you need is to be born in a rich family or work from ground up.
Re: Does God Really Exist by bigname23: 9:45pm On Jun 22, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
What if I tell you God is not a determining factor for success in life, all you need is to be born in a rich family or work from ground up.
Bros na ur own b dat from ...my own personal experience though I b hustler ...but nor b me hustle pass, sum of my guys wey hustle pass me never still live life pass me ..Grace has been the defining factor in my life...in words of Victor ad ...nor be who hustle pass dey carry first oh, na ur grace I take dey live oluwa
Re: Does God Really Exist by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:59pm On Jun 22, 2020
bigname23:
Bros na ur own b dat from ...my own personal experience though I b hustler ...but nor b me hustle pass, sum of my guys wey hustle pass me never still live life pass me ..Grace has been the defining factor in my life...in words of Victor ad ...nor be who hustle pass dey carry first oh, na ur grace I take dey live oluwa
You're aware all this is your opinion, because others from other religion will say the same thing.
Re: Does God Really Exist by sakanifemi123(m): 10:00pm On Jun 22, 2020
My brother hold on with God, master know more than his trainee just be patient and be joyfully with God.
Re: Does God Really Exist by bigname23: 10:02pm On Jun 22, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
What if I tell you God is not a determining factor for success in life, all you need is to be born in a rich family or work from ground up.
not just me...i,ve never seen any guy who made from d street dat does not recognize d existence of God..dey either attribute it to tradditional spiritual powers or to God ...Las Las dem go tell u say God dey
Re: Does God Really Exist by bigname23: 10:04pm On Jun 22, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
You're aware all this is your opinion, because others from other religion will say the same thing.
I don't dispute there are other powers in oder religions ...I know sum guys who used traditonal powers to blow..but d Koko b say God dey..
Re: Does God Really Exist by Dtruthspeaker: 10:07pm On Jun 22, 2020
Martinez39s:
The bible clearly stated that one should ask and one shall receive. It also stated again that whatsoever a man asks of god in prayer believing, he shall receive. The bible made it clear and simple: ask, believe, and receive. grin grin How then is it stupid or out of place for an amputee to ask for the restoration of his amputated limb? Rather than admit the bible is wrong, you make up excuses and foist additional meanings and interpretations on the bible, all for the aim of self-deception.
In your mind you have asked hard questions.
Because no impediment can stop a human being from accomplishing things.

Martinez39s:
Adqdressing your laughable excuses on why god doesn't (or perhaps can't grin) restore amputated limbs, I would like to ask how you as a christian can compare something supposedly made in god's image to a chicken. grin grin cheesy How can you compare something Jesus supposedly suffered and died for to a chicken? grin grin If Jesus, who does the will of god always, can grant lepers, lame folks, deaf folks, the blind, folks with withered limbs, etc their miracles, how is it stupid, or against the will of god, to grant an amputee his/her missing limb(s)? grin grin grin By your own logic, shouldn't Jesus have ignored those people because their ailments didn't stop them from being human beings? undecided grin cheesy shouldn't Jesus have ignored them since he made them strong in their defects, and life could be sweet for them if they wanted it to be? You make me laugh
Because in the eyes of Mr Toyoda, there is no difference between Starlet and Tundra.

Martinez39s:
By the way, how is the restoration of an amputated limb(s) an unnecessary thing or vanity? Are you serious? undecided See how insensitive, callous, and detached from reality your religion has made you become? So if Mr. James is a surgeon that feeds his family (a stay-at-home wife, and two young kids) from his salary, and he had his two hands amputated in an accident, do you think the restoration of his limb is unnecessary and a vanity to any sane god/human?
It is no different from those who have lost their jobs in Nigeria Today.
Re: Does God Really Exist by Martinez39s(m): 10:34pm On Jun 22, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:
In your mind you have asked hard questions.
Because no impediment can stop a human being from accomplishing things.
SMH. So a man whose has lost his sight and hearing can play basketball and practice Medicine at top level?

Because in the eyes of Mr Toyoda, there is no difference between Starlet and Tundra.
Leave Mr Toyoda out of this. In the eyes of God, is there no difference between man (a creature made in his image) and a chicken (a creature he gave man dominion over)? grin I ask again, answer and don't run:
(1) I would like to ask how you as a christian can compare something supposedly made in god's image to a chicken.
(2) How can you compare something Jesus supposedly suffered and died for to a chicken?
(3) If Jesus, who does the will of god always, can grant lepers, lame folks, deaf folks, the blind, folks with withered limbs, etc their miracles, how is it stupid, or against the will of god, to grant an amputee his/her missing limb(s)?
(4) By your own logic, shouldn't Jesus have ignored those people because their ailments didn't stop them from being human beings? Shouldn't Jesus have ignored them since he made them strong in their defects, and life could be sweet for them if they wanted it to be?

I like how you stylishly avoided these and talked about a mysterious Mr Toyoda whose opinion doesn't count here. If Toyoda thinks humans are not different from chicken, does it mean God thinks that way? grin grin grin

It is no different from those who have lost their jobs in Nigeria Today.
It is different. The surgeon cannot apply to other hospitals since his hands are not there. Even if it weren't different, does it mean god shouldn't deliver on his promises? It's funny how you are acting as secretary/spokesman to god to determine which miracle is unnecessary or vain.

Anyway, have fun with your mental gymnastics and self-deception. Many persist in religious delusions because they love their chains. By virtue of your religion, you have become insensitive and callous.

Re: Does God Really Exist by Martinez39s(m): 10:51pm On Jun 22, 2020
NB: this is a summary and paraphrase of someone's arguments.

"An amputee asking god to heal him is stupid and an idiot... The restoration of limbs is unnecessary and a vanity... A human is no different than a chicken, and the loss of his limb doesn't stop him from being human... A surgeon who lost his hands is no different than those who were sacked from their place of work."

— Dtruthspeaker, a bible believing christian, on his defence of god on why god doesn't heal amputees.

Re: Does God Really Exist by GRIMMJOE(m): 10:53pm On Jun 22, 2020
bigname23:
I don't dispute there are other powers in oder religions ...I know sum guys who used traditonal powers to blow..but d Koko b say God dey..
Who created traditional power.
Re: Does God Really Exist by Martinez39s(m): 10:53pm On Jun 22, 2020
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