Maestro21:


Pain is real.

Pain ke? Look at this child. You think the childish nonsense you are doing is painful? Lol. Not everyone responds to things like you do boy. You better grow up.

Maestro21:


[s]Anybody who is trying to dig out information for the sake of knowledge will just passively use the bones I have thrown to see if they would find anything on the other end. You are either actively not doing so or have done so, found something and would rather stick to gaslighting because you know Maestro21 will not help you.

What is actually risible is, even on say YouTube videos or blogs of some of the rehashed piffle on 5G that you have been pointing my way, you would see comments of active players (some of which are installers) sharing their personal experiences and knowledge about the harmful effects of 5G. There have been symposiums, I even mentioned a paper that is available that can be read. I am talking a scientific journal that predates the present hoopla on 5G.

Then you have other well-known experts in the field. Both IT, Telecoms, medical fields with their own blogs and preliminary evidence backing their stance. A rational person will juxtapose their findings with the rubbish coming from the vested interests and then make conclusions. Even gleaning through my previous posts on NL I have mentioned that Senate hearings on this issue were started from last year into this. In one, Senator Blumenthal queried the director of the FCC about the harmful effects of 5G. I won't even bother telling you what the freaking Director himself said.

You are asking me about Wuhan? LOL. Did you go to Google and type anything to see if you would not be flushed with videos and links emanating from the Chinese version of Twitter where you would see Chinese people discussing 5G in Wuhan?

You are talking about fake news and Huawei when I told you specifically that the TWEET emanated from their OWN twitter handle talking about "no NEW issues" with 5G. You may entertain yourself with the comments from other twitter users and the questions thrown at Huawei (which they could not answer).

But be there, looking for posts from BAT telling you how smoke from tobacco is no different than smoke from a chimney and therefore is not carcinogenic.

I laugh at your gross ignorance and lack of palpable research and won't be wasting my time with you until you provide what your own INDEPENDENT research has delivered to you.[/s]

All these honestly are just bunkum, babbling and sensational talks .

Your words doesn't carry accountability or is it solid evidence either. POST SOLID EVIDENCE ON 5G DEATHS IN WUHAN CHINA, let's cross examine it and IF IT'S TRUE, let's call a spade a spade and not a hoe, Simple!!!

Maestro21:


Pain is real.

Not everyone is like you, you know. No pain anyway, people only seek answers and truth. Don't be sensational

1. Man is quoting CNBC for unbiased news. Just quote AIT for unbiased news for Buhari then.

2. WHO is non-governmental yet Bill Gates is the greatest (non-national donor) and China has been their greatest national donor between 2017 till date. Why do you think Trump accused them of being China-centric?

3. What nation do you think lobbied for Tedros' appointment in WHO?

4. First case of death of COVID-19 was January 2020? Let me guess, as reported by China and the WHO? Let me also add, "there have been only ~3000 deaths in China as well" (WHO & China, 2020) Hahaha.

FYI COVID-19 was a thing as far back as even October 2019. The very anti-democratic govt of China suppressed this, deleted news in that regard and expelled journalists. Independent research would have shown you that. And you are calling people zombies. The irony.

5. You are fixating on Nov/Dec when you see that the import of the date is to amplify the sentiment that China and the WHO were well in the know of the brewing pandemic in China but downplayed it prior to Trump signing the trade deal.

If you wanted to disprove it, a good researcher will not provide information from anti-trump hacks or from China echo chambers and trumpeters.

6. I said USA will spend $200B or I said that US signed a deal with China and that China inserted a clause absolving themselves of paying for damages should a pandemic occur?

Apart from being a dummy. You do not even understand simple words. Hahaha.

Mehn, this your write up is pathetic. You are looking for quotes to support a contrarian narrative that makes your lengthy drivel even more simplistic. And you have carried this false aura about thinking you are educating anyone. LOL.

Here is a bone for you;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c47KVyz0Gsg

Buliwyf:


[s]Pain ke? Look at this child. You think the childish nonsense you are doing is painful? Lol. Not everyone responds to things like you do boy. You better grow up.[/s]

Fixed it.

onlyfacts:


All these honestly are just bunkum, babbling and sensational talks .

Your words doesn't carry accountability or is it solid evidence either. POST SOLID EVIDENCE ON 5G DEATHS IN WUHAN CHINA, let's cross examine it and IF IT'S TRUE, let's call a spade a spade and not a hoe, Simple!!!

You are trying too hard to redeem yourself.

Sensational talk to dummies is presenting them with a challenge on how to think. Dummies just read one man's write-up (and his own narrative and present it as fact). Dummyfacts.

Maestro21:
1. Man is quoting CNBC for unbiased news. Just quote AIT for unbiased news for Buhari then.

2. WHO is non-governmental yet Bill Gates is the greatest (non-national donor) and China has been their greatest national donor between 2017 till date. Why do you think Trump accused them of being China-centric?

3. What nation do you think lobbied for Tedros' appointment in WHO?

4. First case of death of COVID-19 was January 2020? Let me guess, as reported by China and the WHO? Let me also add, "there have been only ~3000 deaths in China as well" (WHO & China, 2020) Hahaha.

FYI COVID-19 was a thing as far back as even October 2019. The very anti-democratic govt of China suppressed this, deleted news in that regard and expelled journalists. Independent research would have shown you that. And you are calling people zombies. The irony.

5. You are fixating on Nov/Dec when you see that the import of the date is to amplify the sentiment that China and the WHO were well in the know of the brewing pandemic in China but downplayed it prior to Trump signing the trade deal.

If you wanted to disprove it, a good researcher will not provide information from anti-trump hacks or from China echo chambers and trumpeters.

6. I said USA will spend $200B or I said that US signed a deal with China and that China inserted a clause absolving themselves of paying for damages should a pandemic occur?

Apart from being a dummy. You do not even understand simple words. Hahaha.

Mehn, this your write up is pathetic. You are looking for quotes to support a contrarian narrative that makes your lengthy drivel even more simplistic. And you have carried this false aura about thinking you are educating anyone. LOL.

Here is a bone for you;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c47KVyz0Gsg

What led us here? You implying from my previous post that CIA and the US administration was on the know about the deaths of 5G and that information being relayed back to Trump!!!

You didn't prove that in any way man

Man is quoting CNBC for unbiased news. Just quote AIT for unbiased news for Buhari then.

even if I quoted Sahara reporters or NTA as far as the quote is true and verifiable then I'm vindicated! And it's true!

2. WHO is non-governmental yet Bill Gates is the greatest (non-national donor) and China has been their greatest national donor between 2017 till date. Why do you think Trump accused them of being China-centric?

Like I said WHO is non-governmental, it's for the world and not for any country in particular. Almost every major country in the world have faced human and material loses in this pandemic. The UK Prime Minister could have died you know!!! This is bigger than the US alone. USA remains their highest member state donor and not China, get your facts right! So this doesn't in anyway show or prove that WHO is china centric in anyway!

3. What nation do you think lobbied for Tedros' appointment in WHO?

Still sensational, he merited that seat! To reduce his appointment to political connections alone is to call to question his qualifications! And the world agrees he is qualified to have that seat!

4. First case of death of COVID-19 was January 2020? Let me guess, as reported by China and the WHO? Let me also add, "there have been only ~3000 deaths in China as well" (WHO & China, 2020) Hahaha.

FYI COVID-19 was a thing as far back as even October 2019. The very anti-democratic govt of China suppressed this, deleted news in that regard and expelled journalists. Independent research would have shown you that. And you are calling people zombies. The irony.

So you finally agree the first death could have happened as early as Oct-December? That's good, but you still shot yourself in the foot. Your argument was that the first death of COVID-19 happened after the trade deal was signed after WHO misinformed trump but I proved you wrong!!! Even as at 11 and 13 of January deaths from COVID-19 had been recorded both in China and outside China, rubbishing your false claims.

5. You are fixating on Nov/Dec when you see that the import of the date is to amplify the sentiment that China and the WHO were well in the know of the brewing pandemic in China but downplayed it prior to Trump signing the trade deal.

If you wanted to disprove it, a good researcher will not provide information from anti-trump hacks or from China echo chambers and trumpeters.

You made me to pay attention to the date which I knew was false, it's your fault not mine! The trade deal would create money for the US economy, no matter how it played out, the trade deal was a good thing for America!

6. I said USA will spend $200B or I said that US signed a deal with China and that China inserted a clause absolving themselves of paying for damages should a pandemic occur?

Apart from being a dummy. You do not even understand simple words. Hahaha.

If you were smart as you claimed you wouldn't even bring this up, but you are not.
I'm going to site an outside source. "Within the agreement, a procedure is laid out for both the U.S. and Chinese negotiators to meet on a regular basis to work through the mechanics of implementing the agreement, according to Olson.

“There are clauses built into the agreement in case something unforeseen happens, either on the U.S. side or the Chinese side, which would cause the need to adjust the agreement," he said. “There’s a process in place to work through that. So far, there has been no formal announcement from either side saying, “Yes, we’ve got to go into that mode.”
https://www.agupdate.com/farmandranchguide/news/state-and-regional/coronavirus-could-lead-to-renegotiation-of-us-china-trade-deal/article_6e3b900e-7443-11ea-9543-07d92cf1eeee.html

You deal in sensational statements, I know your kind but I'm not easily moved

Maestro21:


You are trying too hard to redeem yourself.

[s]Sensational talk to dummies is presenting them with a challenge on how to think. Dummies just read one man's write-up (and his own narrative and present it as fact)[/s]. Onlyfacts.

Still no evidence yet

Cc maestro21

Here is a bone for you;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c47KVyz0Gsg

I watched and here are the highlights:

From the first minute into the video I was disappointed, like seriously what are batman, the incredible hulk, and other super heroes doing in the background , what kind of news room is that, for kids or what Least I forget the joker too was part of it, what a joke for a news studio!

Into the first few seconds of the video she was asked how much credibility could she give
[to the accusations china wants to use this pandemic for a grand scheme]? 1%, 5% and she refused to score her conspiracy theory in percentage. It shows she isn't sure of all the facts and what she is saying, its more a guess work.

Into the first minute, just like you claimed (I guess you copied her and not the other way round ), she claimed the trade deal was signed in December 15, 2019 then she said later January the 15th, 2020 and later she went back to December 15th of 2019. So I noticed the inconsistency and she isn't even sure of her facts!

She also claims a clause was inserted in case a pandemic happens that would prevent China from buying US goods worth $200 billion dollars. Trump since the start of his administration has never made a deal that the US was on the losing end. Also in a pandemic all parties lose( cause of no trade or very limited trading) , world economies shut down like happened with China, Europe and America. Instead of making money both sides are losing more money! So her global economics is wrong and off! I doubt she understands economics properly!

She also confirmed my case that the CIA wasn't abreast with the facts she thought she knew, she expected more of them.

She also claimed first case of COVID-19 was announced after the signing of the trade deal in line with your thoughts but these are false claims as I have proved earlier.

She also never said 5G killled anyone but maintained only the virus is killing people. So at the end of watching the video it told me nothing about 5G KILLING PEOPLE IN WUHAN CHINA!!!

Maestro21:


Anybody who is trying to dig out information for the sake of knowledge will just passively use the bones I have thrown to see if they would find anything on the other end. You are either actively not doing so or have done so, found something and would rather stick to gaslighting because you know Maestro21 will not help you.

What is actually risible is, even on say YouTube videos or blogs of some of the rehashed piffle on 5G that you have been pointing my way, you would see comments of active players (some of which are installers) sharing their personal experiences and knowledge about the harmful effects of 5G. There have been symposiums, I even mentioned a paper that is available that can be read. I am talking a scientific journal that predates the present hoopla on 5G.

Your research into this was actually people's comments on YouTube videos? So you believe people's stories on YouTube comments? . YouTube is infamous for being the haven of the worst commenters on the internet. As terrible as Facebook, Reddit and Twitter, they can't be compared to YouTube. At least those ones censor and reduce rubbish comments on their website. YouTube doesn't do that, it displays nonsense and rubbish comments to the public without censoring. You can't claim not to trust mainstream media but you trust people's comments on YouTube. I actually find this very very rib-tickling.

Maestro21:


Then you have other well-known experts in the field. Both IT, Telecoms, medical fields with their own blogs and preliminary evidence backing their stance. A rational person will juxtapose their findings with the rubbish coming from the vested interests and then make conclusions. Even gleaning through my previous posts on NL I have mentioned that Senate hearings on this issue were started from last year into this. In one, Senator Blumenthal queried the director of the FCC about the harmful effects of 5G. I won't even bother telling you what the freaking Director himself said.

Senator Blumenthal didn't meet FCC director face to face at any senate meeting last year. The senator met with telecoms company reps. So your statement that the director couldn't answer the question asked was fallacious since a face to face meeting between the two didn't happen. It's just another attempt of yours to chip in a lie. . The meeting between FCC director and senator committee on commerce sience and transportation was in 2018 in South Dakota and the topic was “THE RACE TO 5G: A VIEW FROM THE FIELD”. Nothing related to health issue of 5G.

The senator actually wrote a letter to the FCC on December 3, 2018 which the director replied on December 17.
He explained how the FCC and FDA have collaborated and still maintained based on "hundreds of studies from which to draw a wealth of information about these technologies,” that the mobile wireless band set from 300khz to 100ghz is safe for humans. The FDA pledged to continue to review, “many sources of scientific and medical evidence...as new scientific data are published."
At no point in the letter did the guy sound gawky in his response as you portrayed in your imaginary meeting .

Maestro21:


You are talking about fake news and Huawei when I told you specifically that the TWEET emanated from their OWN twitter handle talking about "no NEW issues" with 5G. You may entertain yourself with the comments from other twitter users and the questions thrown at Huawei (which they could not answer).

I repeat, no tweet emanated from Huawei twitter handle about "no NEW issues" with 5G. You seem to have that in your imaginary Twitter in your fairyland. I'm went through all their tweets for the month of April and what came close to what you asserted here was their tweet about #5gpower and #AI which has nothing to do with health risks of 5G. And talking about the comments sections, I digged through and they were rife with dull-witted comments, people throwing foolish jibes and posting fake videos about 5G effects. You can't obviously be suggesting that you learnt your knowledge about 5g from all those thickheaded people. Did you? Hope you don't also believe fake broadcast and voice notes on WhatsApp

Maestro21:


[s]You are asking me about Wuhan? LOL. Did you go to Google and type anything to see if you would not be flushed with videos and links emanating from the Chinese version of Twitter where you would see Chinese people discussing 5G in Wuhan?[/s]

Another nonsense from comments sections and watching videos from China Twitter to learn what happened in Wuhan China. Don't tell me all your "independent research" about Wuhan China is actually from "China Twitter" and videos you watched. I actually checked the site and I found no video talking about anybody dying in Wuhan China because of 5G. It seems everywhere you've pointed to for evidence seems to be from YouTube comments, twitter comments or "China Twitter".

Maestro21:


[s]
But be there, looking for posts from BAT telling you how smoke from tobacco is no different than smoke from a chimney and therefore is not carcinogenic.

I laugh at your gross ignorance and lack of palpable research and won't be wasting my time with you until you provide what your own INDEPENDENT research has delivered to you.[/s]

See this one making analysis with BAT and tobacco when his own sources are comments sections from social media platforms. .

onlyfacts:


Still no evidence yet

His evidence is from Twitter and YouTube comments sections

Funaki:


His evidence is from Twitter and YouTube comments sections

YouTube videos that are shallow in researched content , what amazes me is how boldly he says rubbish

Hand sanitizer: You can easily to one yourself

Watch the videos on this youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeEnwC1zz4MCXVlYzJ2SCuw/

To learn how to make alcohol based hand sanitizer as recommended by WHO


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93eWEg1iqjQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE2mbFa44vA

Funaki

Hahahahahahaha.

Onlyfacts,



All your rubbish how far? Trump rescinded his desire to de-fund the WHO?

It is funny watching ignoramuses tie themselves into tortuous knots.

Maestro21:
Onlyfacts,



All your rubbish how far? Trump rescinded his desire to de-fund the WHO?

It is funny watching ignoramuses tie themselves into tortuous knots.

Yes he did. currently he is contemplating de-funding WHO but hasn't done it yet (he gave them a deadline of 30days). Whether he does or not only time will tell.

In case you have forgotten the topic it's about pastor Chris and his claim that 5G is the cause of death and not COVID19. hope you heard the sanction ofcom of UK has placed on his channel for sharing such conspiracy?

Welcome back guy!

onlyfacts:


Yes he did. currently he is contemplating de-funding WHO but hasn't done it yet (he gave them a deadline of 30days). Whether he does or not only time will tell.

In case you have forgotten the topic it's about pastor Chris and his claim that 5G is the cause of death and not COVID19. hope you heard the sanction ofcom of UK has placed on his channel for sharing such conspiracy?

Welcome back guy!

And his claim that the 5G is the cause of death and not COVID19, can you point to where that was said?

I like how you have sidestepped your WHO argument. "He is still planning on defunding it". LOL

Maestro21:


And his claim that the 5G is the cause of death and not COVID19, can you point to where that was said?

I like how you have sidestepped your WHO argument. "He is still planning on defunding it". LOL

As at the date I made that post he was still planning on do it.

Now for your first question, please refer to the video I posted when I created this post in the beginning or read the extract I brought out from it. Your answer is there.

onlyfacts:


As at the date I made that post he was still planning on do it.

Now for your first question, please refer to the video I posted when I created this post in the beginning or read the extract I brought out from it. Your answer is there.

Your problem is just stronghead.

Here I was telling you facts on ground and you were arguing yourself sore. Now you are telling me "at the time". LOL. There is nothing time has not proven that you were wrong in. That is by the way.

As for your other post, were we talking about Wuhan or all countries? Did anyone say COVID19 was not responsible for any deaths? I ask this because I stand 100% by what I had said and what I had tried to explain to you that he meant. Obviously, he has repeated my opinion at least 4 times after the fact so I was not misinterpreting him. You were.

Maestro21:


Your problem is just stronghead.

Here I was telling you facts on ground and you were arguing yourself sore. Now you are telling me "at the time". LOL. There is nothing time has not proven that you were wrong in. That is by the way.

As for your other post, were we talking about Wuhan or all countries? Did anyone say COVID19 was not responsible for any deaths? I ask this because I stand 100% by what I had said and what I had tried to explain to you that he meant. Obviously, he has repeated my opinion at least 4 times after the fact so I was not misinterpreting him. You were.

If nobody have told you yet, I will. This your damage control isn't fooling anyone. Instead it is making you incapable of having a rational conversation with anyone but yourself, cause with you facts are trash unless it suits your narrative. News flash bro, you will do damage control tire on Nairaland at the rate your pastor is going.

At least a million and one persons will agree with me that he meant what he said even OFCOM of UK, which is 5G is the cause of death and not covid19 and I am very very pleased with that.

I know to you all of us does not understand English even those in the UK, it's only you, CE members and your pastor that does. You can keep lying to yourself, I have no issues with that.

5G isn't an issue anymore as your pastor keeps sinking deeper into controversy and quickly losing credibility. I expect more and more disturbing things to still keep coming up from your pastor ( and like a good member you got his back) but I'm glad a lot more people are seeing through his guise as God of man. The proverbial saying is true in his case; "you can fool the people some of the time but you can't fool the people all of the time".

Like I said, what you believe is your choice but the scales have fallen off the eyes of many more people here and outside and you can't stop that, even Christians are quickly removing their hands from CE's radical nature and matters. The once highly esteemed pastor Chris is now in the lowly category of Lie Mohammed in public eyes.
Have a filled day defending him on every post and across all social media platforms (instagram, facebook, twitter etc), that's your headache and if he says rubbish guess what? WE will still bash him on all social media platforms .

onlyfacts:


If nobody have told you yet, I will. This your damage control isn't fooling anyone. Instead it is making you incapable of having a rational conversation with anyone but yourself, cause with you facts are trash unless it suits your narrative. News flash bro, you will do damage control tire on Nairaland at the rate your pastor is going.

Stop hiding behind words. Nairaland is too small. Why do you people think so highly of yourself like this? Please you are making yourself sound ridiculous.

At least a million and one persons will agree with me that he meant what he said even OFCOM of UK, which is 5G is the cause of death and not covid19 and I am very very pleased with that.

LOOOL. 1 million people can all be stu-pid at the same time. This is an established and a known fact. When intellectually lazy people are looking for feeble support for their unintelligent position, they quote other unintelligent people. OFCOM did what? On whose platform does he broadcast his messages? Can Buhari sanction Trump for making a statement concerning Iraq? Wake up.

I know to you all of us does not understand English even those in the UK, it's only you, CE members and your pastor that does. You can keep lying to yourself, I have no issues with that.

Let me tell you a very funny story. Some renowned doctors in the US and Germany spoke against masks for health workers not working directly with COVID19 patients. YouTube and co censored them by deleting their videos. The reason they gave was that they will not allow any opinion that contravenes what the WHO or CDC have said. Only Last month, the WHO said the same thing that those doctors said months back. Imagine how foolish, the fools on YouTube will feel now. You might have an idea.

5G isn't an issue anymore as your pastor keeps sinking deeper into controversy and quickly losing credibility. I expect more and more disturbing things to still keep coming up from your pastor ( and like a good member you got his back) but I'm glad a lot more people are seeing through his guise as God of man. The proverbial saying is true in his case; "you can fool the people some of the time but you can't fool the people all of the time".

Which of the 5G that is not an issue? The one the former CEO of Microsoft Canada spoke against? The one many renowned Professors, Chemical engineers, Medical doctors, Technicians etc have spoken against? Which 5G? Get updated. There are MANY more voices concerning the health risks associated with deployment of 5G using masts and towers. Society groups are piling pressure for the roll-outs to be suspended till proper investigations are done on the safety concerns with regards to 5G. It is an established fact that COVID19 death tolls are worse off in countries and states where these roll-outs have been executed.

Like I said, what you believe is your choice but the scales have fallen off the eyes of many more people here and outside and you can't stop that, even Christians are quickly removing their hands from CE's radical nature and matters.

I wish you had a single dot of a clue. Like I said, you deride yourself with this senseless display of delusion of grandeur. Except you are referring to another CEC. The one I know has commanded so much attention, many other men of God who were quiet are now bolder and speaking the same truths. LOL. Keep using NL as a poll for what is accepted or not. The same NL that crowned Atiku and Hillary Clinton presidents. LOOOL

The once highly esteemed pastor Chris is now in the lowly category of Lie Mohammed in public eyes.

You have no clue. Highly esteemed by who? Lowly category of what? No minister of the gospel, worldover has attracted as much followership as Pastor Chris in these past months. NONE. I am talking billions of viewerships across all platforms. I have listened to many ministers who are having dreams and visions confirming things Rev Chris said months ago. He has been announcing the news before it happens. The dumb blogs you read will not tell you that because fake news is the devil's agenda in these last days. Is anybody today still saying the virus came from Bats or Pangolins? I am talking Nobel laureates almost all agree that this virus was engineered. The projected death tolls are waaaaay lower than what the "experts" said they will be. What about the churches? I thought the argument before was "everyone was locked down" why have they opened abortion clinics and told churches to stay holed in? One man said it before hand that they will do exactly that. Guess who said all these things in March and was maligned for it? LOOL

Have a filled day defending him on every post and across all social media platforms (instagram, facebook, twitter etc), that's your headache and if he says rubbish guess what? WE will still bash him on all social media platforms .

If you don't know how to bash I will recommend books to you. Count your views and comments, they won't exceed 2M. The same number, one CEC group pastor in one of the states in Nigeria will command. I can tell you for free, just by watching Rev. Chris, he does not listen to or care about what nonentities have to say. He has always been that way. I have looked at his life and the lives of those who must be crushed for his spiritual promotion. I definitely prefer his own.

We are in the last of the last days. The greatest criticism will come from those who are supposed to be from the same fold. It is the devil's strategy that will lead to the great falling away. Many will pay with their lives. Others with their salvation. It has been written and prophesied already. Those of us who read our bibles and hear from God know what is to come. You and your ilk are the ones who will later find out.

Make of that what you will. I am done here.

Maestro21:



Make of that what you will. I am done here

I was done with you along time ago but I'm not done with your God of man

onlyfacts:

.
At least a million and one persons will agree with me that he meant what he said even OFCOM of UK, which is 5G is the cause of death and not covid19 and I am very very pleased with that.

I think That was in reference to people falling on the road and dropping dead in China. That wasn't covid 19. Its believed covid 19 was released after that as cover

petra1:


I think That was in reference to people falling on the road and dropping dead in China. That wasn't covid 19. Its believed covid 19 was released after that as cover

And you have irrefutable evidence to back up this claim beyond reasonable doubt? And since after the pandemic is 5G not still being used in China?