leonard002:
There are some portions of the Bible where God repented of something. How do you reconcile this

Inteltower:
I think the regret he had was giving man free will. but if he didn't ..such a relationship he wanted wouldn't materialize

BackllGodNaija:
That's not hard to reconcile once you get "repent" in that context right...

But even those that are hard to reconcile, God is still God regardless, and He's never made a mistake.

BackllGodNaija:
Assuming that's the case, does that count as a mistake?

hayoholla:


You have not explained anything, In which context is the right context? Care to explain?

hayoholla:


You earlier posted 'if we get the fact god repented in the right context'. Now you are assuming. Can you please stand on a premise and defend it bro. I want to learn

Inteltower:
I think the regret he had was giving man free will. but if he didn't ..such a relationship he wanted wouldn't materialize

Bjjuwon:
Does that means that some hard things and difficult situation we pass through at times are God's will?

BackllGodNaija:
Okay.

God didn't repent because He had made a mistake or done something wrong, but because of what man had turned all the good work He did in the beginning to.

"And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good." Genesis 1:31

BackllGodNaija:
I wasn't assuming if God repented or not, but if He ever regretted giving man freewill because I didn't agree with him on that premise, but still wanted to get his message clearly, if he meant that God made a mistake.

hayoholla:


Ok,so let's pretend you are not assuming. But god giving man's freewill? Does god not know what freewill is, by dashing man's so freely. He should know the consequences na or shouldn't he, why should he then feel remorse afterwards? It may be likened to me giving a child a matchbox in poorly lit room, he might end up setting up the house on fire, if he's too careless or doesn't know how to use a matchbox prior to me giving him one, or he might light choose to put up light to illuminate the room. I hope you get the analogy.

Lemme throw this question at you. Which will you prefer? a balanced system or a perfect system, as a designer.

hayoholla:


You are still assuming bro! Anyways let's leave that at that. Do you really know what it means to say something is good? Does it means it's devoid errors to you? We need to start from knowing the definition of what good is? He saw it was good, meaning he self approved it, but his creation proved otherwise!

but because of what man had turned all the good work He did in the beginning to

Is Man not part of gods good works? Why are you contradicting yourself. I have told you to stop assuming!

hayoholla:


Ok,so let's pretend you are not assuming. But god giving man's freewill? Does god not know what freewill is, by dashing man's so freely. He should know the consequences na or shouldn't he, why should he then feel remorse afterwards? It may be likened to me giving a child a matchbox in poorly lit room, he might end up setting up the house on fire, if he's too careless or doesn't know how to use a matchbox prior to me giving him one, or he might light choose to put up light to illuminate the room. I hope you get the analogy.

Lemme throw this question at you. Which will you prefer? a balanced system or a perfect system, as a designer.

BackllGodNaija:
Yes It's Hard To Explain Somethings, But God's Still God And He's Never Made A Mistake

Even the greatest giants of faith in times past had a point in their respective lives, when they found it very difficult to understand what God was doing, which compelled them to ask Him some difficult questions.

But what distinguished them, was the fact that regardless of what it was that made them ask God those questions, to them God was still God no matter what.

God promised childless Abraham at the age of seventy five, that He would make him a father of a great nation if he obeyed His voice. Gen 12:1-4

But after Abraham had done all that God commanded him to do, Abraham was still childless many years later, that he had to asked God, "what will thou give me, seeing I go childless?" Genesis 15:2

But he still believed God . Genesis 15:6

God sent Moses to Egypt to deliver "His people" from their Egyptian oppressors and Pharoah. Exodus 3:10

But after Moses got there and delivered the message God had sent him unto Pharoah, instead of Pharoah letting "God's people" go, he significantly increased the burden upon them and oppressed them much more, that they cried out even more than they did before the coming of Moses, that he was forced to ask God, "why is it that thou had sent me? Exodus 5:22

Yet Moses remained faithful to God. Numbers 12:7

God called David, "a man after my heart", and sent His prophet Samuel to annoint him king in the place of Saul over His people Isreal. 1 Samuel 13:14, 16:1

But instead of David ascending the throne shortly after that, it was his hardship and tribulations that ascended, to the extent that he had to feign madness at some point. There also came a point when it became too difficult to bear that even his own men turned against him and wanted to stone him which distressed him greatly. 1 Sam 30:6

But nonetheless David encouraged himself in the Lord who he called his Shepherd. 1 Sam 30:6

And there's also Job who God called His servant, and said was "a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil"." Job 1:8

But a day would come when the same Job would cursed the day he was born because of the extent of his suffering at the time. Job 3:1

Yet Job would still say, "I know my Redeemer liveth". Job 19:25

But one would think that okay, but surely not Jesus, the only begotten Son of God of whom God said "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased" right? Matthew 3:17

Wrong!

Because Jesus would also get to the point in His life when He would have to ask His Father, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" Matthew 27:46

Nontheless Jesus would go on to say, "Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit." Luke 23:46

So when we as believers encounter things that we cannot understand or find hard to explain, that we have to ask God some difficult questions, we should know that we're not the first to do so, for even Jesus who is the only begotten Son of God did same thing.

And if Jesus who is the Master and Lord had a point where He had to ask God some questions, how much more His servants?

But regardless of whatever questions we may be compelled to ask God, we should know that God is still God nonetheless, and He's never made a mistake.

This I believe was the orientation of those before us that made them to still keep the faith regardless of whatever inexplicable difficulties they faced.

God bless Nigeria.

Inteltower:
I think the regret he had was giving man free will. but if he didn't ..such a relationship he wanted wouldn't materialize

Kobojunkie:
He regretted giving man free will? Why didn't he simply take it back?

Kobojunkie:

I believe the answer is a yes, for nothing can happen without His consent. Remember He is all-powerful and sovereign - nothing gets by Him.

Does that mean it is all His fault? No. It simply means He is the one at the switchboard, the super-admin, so to speak, authorizing that which is to occur.

hayoholla:


You are still assuming bro! Anyways let's leave that at that. Do you really know what it means to say something is good? Does it means it's devoid errors to you? We need to start from knowing the definition of what good is? He saw it was good, meaning he self approved it, but his creation proved otherwise!

but because of what man had turned all the good work He did in the beginning to

Is Man not part of gods good works? Why are you contradicting yourself. I have told you to stop assuming!

Dtruthspeaker:

He can, but He did not wish to especially as He saw at Least One man, Noah, getting it Right, therefore His Desire to have a great good relationship with man was renewed.

hayoholla:


Ok,so let's pretend you are not assuming. But god giving man's freewill? Does god not know what freewill is, by dashing man's so freely. He should know the consequences na or shouldn't he, why should he then feel remorse afterwards? It may be likened to me giving a child a matchbox in poorly lit room, he might end up setting up the house on fire, if he's too careless or doesn't know how to use a matchbox prior to me giving him one, or he might light choose to put up light to illuminate the room. I hope you get the analogy.

Lemme throw this question at you. Which will you prefer? a balanced system or a perfect system, as a designer.

GRIMMJOE:
You won't get an answer, God isn't real.

Kobojunkie:
God regretted giving man free will? So why He prepare Jesus Christ, the New Covenant, from even before He made man?

Dtruthspeaker:


Please, point me to this scripture

Kobojunkie:
Have you not read the book of Hebrews? Paul's letter where He asserts that God in fact madw the plan from before the beginning?

Dtruthspeaker:


Yes, Hebrews Chapter 5 all the way to Chapter 9 (just needed to know specifically which one you had in mind)

And Chapter 5 commenced from Chapter 4:14, That, Jesus, The Son of God, is Also A High Priest unto us, Just as it was Commanded in Exodus 25:1-9; Exodus 40:12-16.

So what is the problem here?

Dtruthspeaker:


Op respectfully, I was uncomfortable with this post because, by Nature, people should not and do not openly exhibit the limitations of their knowledge.

Why? Because, we humans Naturally Rely and Depend on Expert/Professional Opinion for the good direction of our affairs.

No patient will ever willingly place himself in the table of a Medical Student studying Surgery!

So also here, your declaration of "Yes It's Hard To Explain Somethings" is not comforting, if anything it brings panic because of the space created by "I Don't Knows Syndrome", which does not ever give confidence.

And the only a man can walk or drive Confidently Always Comes From What he knows.

That is what I just wanted to kindly point out.

BackllGodNaija:
Okay thanks for sharing your thoughts. It's quite surprising though that you don't find that comforting because that orientation has been of tremendous help to me and many others including some here, hence my sharing. Nonetheless I respect your thoughts.