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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ceaser: 9:30am On Jul 05, 2020
ojtech8291:
The two days sun made my cc to lose memory oh... Because of excess. Just do 4 panels for your 24V setup.

Lose memory as how?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 9:34am On Jul 05, 2020
mank1234:


Voltage of the inverter does.
A 12v inverter will do half of what a 24v inverter will allow. 24v inverter will allow half of what a 58v inverter will.

angry grin grin
In what way my brother?.
Cc is the only limiting factor, for a 12v, you would hv to run multiple cc, if you want to have panel array above 700w and still use 12v inverter
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 9:43am On Jul 05, 2020
harizonal123:


How about connecting all six in parallel? Is there any implications

U loose mppt advantage, since ur inverter is 24v, the vmp of 250w panel in bright sunlight wud be about 26v or so..not enough potential difference to push the amps and ensure proper charging.
In one of my setups i have 3s2p 280w..and incoming voltage vmp is usually about 76v in bright sunlight...and upto100v when its raining.

2ndly if your cable run is long..you would need very thick cables to carry the over 44amps without suffering massive losses..
6p is a no brainer, only a jjc or a rookie installer would even entertain such a thought

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mank1234(m): 9:51am On Jul 05, 2020
earthrealm:


angry grin grin
In what way my brother?.
Cc is the only limiting factor, for a 12v, you would hv to run multiple cc, if you want to have panel array above 700w and still use 12v inverter

For a 60A cc that support 12v, 24v, 36v and 48v setup, is it not the inverter that will determine what voltage you run the CC?
If the inverter determines the voltage you run, it then determines how many Watts the panel can be since the CC cannot go beyond 60A.

If your inverter is 12v, you'll run less panel than you would on a 24v inverter using the same cc.

If you are to run multiple cc in order to achieve same wattage at lower voltage, then it's not the CC that determine the wattage but the voltage of the setup which is dependent on the inverter.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojtech8291: 10:55am On Jul 05, 2020
ceaser:


Lose memory as how?
Stopped charging until I have to off and on the breakers. It happens every time the sun is very high.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 11:09am On Jul 05, 2020
ojtech8291:
Stopped charging until I have to off and on the breakers. It happens every time the sun is very high.

Haha..your connection is wrong...likely overloaded the cc above its rating
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 11:20am On Jul 05, 2020
mank1234:


For a 60A cc that support 12v, 24v, 36v and 48v setup, is it not the inverter that will determine what voltage you run the CC?
If the inverter determines the voltage you run, it then determines how many Watts the panel can be since the CC cannot go beyond 60A.

If your inverter is 12v, you'll run less panel than you would on a 24v inverter using the same cc.

If you are to run multiple cc in order to achieve same wattage at lower voltage, then it's not the CC that determine the wattage but the voltage of the setup which is dependent on the inverter.

Lemme paint a scenario.
We may be swying same thing but differently.
Half full and half empty cup grin

You have a 12v 3kw inverter...yeah the americans n germans produce such grin.this has been serving you well over time. Now you wan to add solar panels.you have acquired 2kw/3kw array ...
You could either get 3 to 5 units mppt CC, or you discard your beloved Magnum inverter, get a 48v inverter and go for a single 60amps CC,. Taking this decision, a lot of factors would hv to be considered.

It wudda been a simpl3 decision if the inverter in question was a cheap 12v 1.5kva chinese inverter, but again most owners of such cheap small capacity inverters rarely exceed 1.5kw panel array grin
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Nobody: 11:23am On Jul 05, 2020
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 11:25am On Jul 05, 2020
ojtech8291:
Stopped charging until I have to off and on the breakers. It happens every time the sun is very high.

Your CC is probably going into protection mode when the sun is very high due to one or more of the following scenarios.

1. Over Temperature. The temperature of the FETs have gone above the safety threshold due to continuous operation at maximum power

2. Over Current. The output current spiked above the rated capacity for a sustained period

3. Over Voltage. The input voltage rose above the rated MPPT voltage

You need to rejig your array to avoid these issues.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Nobody: 11:46am On Jul 05, 2020
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojeysky(m): 12:08pm On Jul 05, 2020
Why I may continue to get sunfit panels if I can find them. That is from a 2.25kw array, what else will premiums do than this grin

Note that it could have gone beyond if not for BMS limitation

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by spartacus11(m): 12:35pm On Jul 05, 2020
ceaser:


The inverter is a true PSW. And a good one too. If AC power is good, it charges well (20A charger I think). It has a lot of battery, load and output info on the display, but unlike some in its category, there is no way to turn the various displays on the screen off.

Ok thats Boss i appreciate
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by spartacus11(m): 12:37pm On Jul 05, 2020
earthrealm:


angry grin grin
In what way my brother?.
Cc is the only limiting factor, for a 12v, you would hv to run multiple cc, if you want to have panel array above 700w and still use 12v inverter

You mean one can connect multiple CC to one battery bank?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dapsyra(m): 12:52pm On Jul 05, 2020
spartacus11:


You mean one can connect multiple CC to one battery bank?

Yes, you can connect multiple CC to one battery bank
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojtech8291: 12:55pm On Jul 05, 2020
earthrealm:


Haha..your connection is wrong...likely overloaded the cc above its rating
Yeah... The VOC of the series connection is a bit higher than that of the CC.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojtech8291: 1:01pm On Jul 05, 2020
dapsyra:


Your CC is probably going into protection mode when the sun is very high due to one or more of the following scenarios.

1. Over Temperature. The temperature of the FETs have gone above the safety threshold due to continuous operation at maximum power

2. Over Current. The output current spiked above the rated capacity for a sustained period

3. Over Voltage. The input voltage rose above the rated MPPT voltage

You need to rejig your array to avoid these issues.
It should be over voltage because the VOC of the series connection is little more than that of the CC Maximum input voltage. Maximum CC is 70V but the panels are 2S is around 77.6V. 1S4P will result to a lot of voltage drops. The only solution now is to change the CC. Thank you.
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 1:59pm On Jul 05, 2020
spartacus11:


You mean one can connect multiple CC to one battery bank?
Yeah..
Just ensure its same make and model...and same settings across board.
The grand patron of this thread Georged1 posted his setup recently, he has 3 cc abi 4 sef grin
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 2:00pm On Jul 05, 2020
ojtech8291:
It should be over voltage because the VOC of the series connection is little more than that of the CC Maximum input voltage. Maximum CC is 70V but the panels are 2S is around 77.6V. 1S4P will result to a lot of voltage drops. The only solution now is to change the CC. Thank you.

Hahaha. You are very lucky , that you didn't burn the cc, you were told b4, ojesky encouraged you to risk it
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 2:07pm On Jul 05, 2020
ojeysky:
Why I may continue to get sunfit panels if I can find them. That is from a 2.25kw array, what else will premiums do than this grin

Note that it could have gone beyond if not for BMS limitation

Try and beat this.
3s2p 280w x 6 yingli panels @ noon
Total 1680w installed capacity...harvest 2035w, it even hit 2045w..but went out b4 i could take a picture.
Next step would be to verfiy this readings with a clamp meter, cos i had about 34.6amps coming in @ 57.6v or so

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mahkanjuh: 2:10pm On Jul 05, 2020
ceaser:


I actually have one that I have retired. Very good product like that. Used for a year. 12v "BTS" PSW with AC charger with 20% 50% selectable DoD. But it's 750kva so I'm not too sure if it will handle your load. I believe the highest KVA with 12v in that product line up is 1.2kva. Higher KVA come at 24v nominal. It was bought off of Konga. I'll see if I can retrieve the link.

Pls, kindly help retrieve that link you talked about
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojtech8291: 2:30pm On Jul 05, 2020
earthrealm:


Hahaha. You are very lucky , that you didn't burn the cc, you were told b4, ojesky encouraged you to risk it
Lolzzzzzz...The CC has very good protection but very bad in terms of array manipulations. It is called solarmate charge controller. Who has used it before?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by earthrealm(m): 3:08pm On Jul 05, 2020
ojtech8291:
Lolzzzzzz...The CC has very good protection but very bad in terms of array manipulations. It is called solarmate charge controller. Who has used it before?

Throway that useless CC, its a glorified pwm, masquerading as mppt.

Go find powmr or makeskyblue mppt cc...e no go pass 40k/45k 12v _ 48v 60amps mppt
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by spartacus11(m): 3:46pm On Jul 05, 2020
dapsyra:


Yes, you can connect multiple CC to one battery bank

Thanks. Just learned something new
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by spartacus11(m): 3:49pm On Jul 05, 2020
earthrealm:

Yeah..
Just ensure its same make and model...and same settings across board.
The grand patron of this thread Georged1 posted his setup recently, he has 3 cc abi 4 sef grin

Noted Sir. Thanks for the explanation
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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by spartacus11(m): 3:53pm On Jul 05, 2020
earthrealm:


Try and beat this.
3s2p 280w yingli @ noon
Total 1680w installed capacity...harvest 2035w, it even hit 2045w..but went out b4 i could take a picture.
Next step would be to verfiy this readings with a clamp meter, cos i had about 34.6amps coming in @ 57.6v or so

I love this wow. See enjoyment this is PowMr cc right, how is the performance which version is it?

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