Why do some developers look down on other developers who know just PHP, Jquery and Ajax after learning languages such as Python and other frameworks such as Vue and React and so on?
And this developers who know just PHP, Jquery and Ajax have built projects that is running and gives them some income, projects that look beautiful. But when u look at some projects been built by these other developers who know Python or Vue or React u tend to see their projects lacking a good and user friendly UI or systems that lack a user friendly validation in their forms and so on...

Why?

The fact u learnt something new doesn't mean u are very creative with it.
Sometime last year I was reading an article online about something like this and a user said

"If you have a 6 years experience with PHP and you want to build a project with it there's a tendency u won't spend more than a year building it, but making the decision to learn a new programming language like Python or any other language to build this project of yours will make u spend more time on your projects and this may take u more years before knowing Python like PHP".

This doesn't mean your project won't work nor does this mean your project can't be hacked nor secured.
There are developers who have built projects with the little they know and have made a lot of money not because of the language they used but because of their IDEA.

If Facebook was built with Python or Ruby it will still be what it is today because of the IDEA!
If Twitter was built with Django or Flask Web Framework it will still be what it is today because of the IDEA!
And so on...

To me, as far as am concerned, programming is all about your IDEA and not the language you use.
So the fact you just learn Python, PHP, Ruby, Vue, React or any framework doesn't give you the right to tell any developer that he/she is wasting his/her time on bla bla bla bla...
Not all developers want to be an employee, some want to achieve their dreams buy building something great because they have an IDEA.

So to all developers who are working on something great, keep on moving forward till you achieve your goal.
Bless u all!

Great thought.

But still, i still strongly believe in the exploring and learning new technologies to widen your experience because companies of nowadays don't want you only knowing PHP but there are still technologies you will need to learn just to help you boost your experience even though you might not use that new technologies but at least have understanding on it.

For example, i am a backend software engineer and i actively work with nodejs. Though it is enough, but at my workplace, they require me to have knowledge in PHP/Laravel and GraphQL even though i hate PHP.

But either ways, you bring a good point to the table

Developers looking down on others can be a personal thing because what matters to a client is if the developer delivers which any Developer good at PHP or Python-django can do easily.

Though a Django Developer may feel himself because of the advantages packed with it. Advantages like django is in python code as such can be used on long term project as compared to PHP, PHP follows a classic approach where Python has more strict identification enforcements. Hence Django becomes the best, though PHP is mainly for web purpose but python is for general purpose and python-django development can be done offline and online, python syntax makes the django codes more readable and easy to understand, debugging is an issue you can avoid as a developer and here python has more than enough tools for debugging as compared to classic PHP.


In general, Django is better for web development but as for a Developer looking down on another, that's a personal thing as both do the same work.

Using a private jet to fly to UK and a commercial plane for the same reason has no much difference. The destination is UK which both will achieve but the comfort can be compared, see the private jet as django ���

aronski:
Why do some developers look down on other developers who know just PHP, Jquery and Ajax after learning languages such as Python and other frameworks such as Vue and React and so on?
And this developers who know just PHP, Jquery and Ajax have built projects that is running and gives them some income, projects that look beautiful. But when u look at some projects been built by these other developers who know Python or Vue or React u tend to see their projects lacking a good and user friendly UI or systems that lack a user friendly validation in their forms and so on...

Why?

The fact u learnt something new doesn't mean u are very creative with it.
Sometime last year I was reading an article online about something like this and a user said

"If you have a 6 years experience with PHP and you want to build a project with it there's a tendency u won't spend more than a year building it, but making the decision to learn a new programming language like Python or any other language to build this project of yours will make u spend more time on your projects and this may take u more years before knowing Python like PHP".

This doesn't mean your project won't work nor does this mean your project can't be hacked nor secured.
There are developers who have built projects with the little they know and have made a lot of money not because of the language they used but because of their IDEA.

If Facebook was built with Python or Ruby it will still be what it is today because of the IDEA!
If Twitter was built with Django or Flask Web Framework it will still be what it is today because of the IDEA!
And so on...

To me, as far as am concerned, programming is all about your IDEA and not the language you use.
So the fact you just learn Python, PHP, Ruby, Vue, React or any framework doesn't give you the right to tell any developer that he/she is wasting his/her time on bla bla bla bla...
Not all developers want to be an employee, some want to achieve their dreams buy building something great because they have an IDEA.

So to all developers who are working on something great, keep on moving forward till you achieve your goal.
Bless u all!

What is the difference between the two developers that learnt those technologies? Anyone that does that is a stark fool. But what would you say about those that know how to manipulate sockets (via C system calls).

I think it's because of security reasons that PHP developers are being underrated. You mentioned Facebook in your write up in defense to your point, but at some point, Mark wanted to move his codebase to Java or python for security reasons but the code is huge to be moved. Now, he use Java, python, c++ as a solid backend for Facebook. If any feature is to be implemented in Facebook, I doubt it will be done using PHP.

It is always advisable to learn other technologies. If you are a PHP guru, learn Java or python it will help in the long run.

thenaijacoder:
Great thought.

But still, i still strongly believe in the exploring and learning new technologies to widen your experience because companies of nowadays don't want you only knowing PHP but there are still technologies you will need to learn just to help you boost your experience even though you might not use that new technologies but at least have understanding on it.

For example, i am a backend software engineer and i actively work with nodejs. Though it is enough, but at my workplace, they require me to have knowledge in PHP/Laravel and GraphQL even though i hate PHP.

But either ways, you bring a good point to the table

Lol u hate php


Why if I may ask



As for me I don't see myself leaving php for any other programming language.


Learn 1tin n b good at it if be the best.

Some people knw php but can not use the language to build application.

Not every new tech that comes up u want to learn, what if e no come out.

U can be good with 1 language n use it to build any idea DAT comes ur way or brain

@aronski
everything you wrote does not apply in the real world.
performance is key to a software, pl sentiment is not key to develop a software. If facebook was developed with python based on sentiments it will not be were it is today.
ideas and applications of ideas are two different things. A game in python and a game in c++ are miles apart in quality and performance. Also a web app in python and a web app in c++ are miles apart in quality.
it is about knowing the best language for a particular problem.
programming language of choice really matters

peterangelo:



Lol u hate php


Why if I may ask



As for me I don't see myself leaving php for any other programming language.


Learn 1tin n b good at it if be the best.

Some people knw php but can not use the language to build application.

Not every new tech that comes up u want to learn, what if e no come out.

U can be good with 1 language n use it to build any idea DAT comes ur way or brain

Good one!
If those who know only python or Ruby or any other languages out there will follow your saying they will be super good in their field.

aronski:

Good one!
If those who know only python or Ruby or any other languages out there will follow your saying they will be super good in their field.

That's the truth,if those people that knw a lot of programming LNG in their head lisp,nodejs,angularjs,etc they can't build forum like nairaland complete I'm not talking Facebook just nairaland n Instagram.


Like they usually say another man food is another man poison, that other hate php while me like it.

peterangelo:



That's the truth,if those people that knw a lot of programming LNG in their head lisp,nodejs,angularjs,etc they can't build forum like nairaland complete I'm not talking Facebook just nairaland n Instagram.


Like they usually say another man food is another man poison, that other hate php while me like it.

Ok one question for you since you think all languages do the same thing. If i have an oracle database and there is no api whatsoever to connect to my website, how do i fetch this data in PHP. Mind you, the oracle database is on a different server, nothing connects it to my server. How do i query the oracle database from my PHP site. If you have no answer to this, then please go and learn more backend languages.

devdev:

Ok one question for you since you think all languages do the same thing. If i have an oracle database and there is no api whatsoever to connect to my website, how do i fetch this data in PHP. Mind you, the oracle database is on a different server, nothing connects it to my server. How do i query the oracle database from my PHP site. If you have no answer to this, then please go and learn more backend languages.

What are u saying?
Did he say all languages do the same thing?
He learned and choose PHP for a reason and that doesn't mean he can't do what he wants with it using MySQL database...

aronski:


What are u saying?
Did he say all languages do the same thing?
He learned and choose PHP for a reason and that doesn't mean he can't do what he wants with it using MySQL database...

The question i dropped is a project. You do PHP but i already have an oracle database with over 10000 records. As a PHP web developer that you are. How would you develop my website using my oracle database and your PHP language. I cannot start creating fresh database from scratc. Again, if you have no answer to this, then wait no longer.... Start learning new backend languages. You need it to solve problems. Website is beyond login, logout, user, admin. There are website related projects that need you to bring in a new backend language. That is why most versed developers hate PHP.

devdev:

The question i dropped is a project. You do PHP but i already have an oracle database with over 10000 records. As a PHP web developer that you are. How would you develop my website using my oracle database and your PHP language. I cannot start creating fresh database from scratc. Again, if you have no answer to this, then wait no longer.... Start learning new backend languages. You need it to solve problems. Website is beyond login, logout, user, admin. There are website related projects that need you to bring in a new backend language. That is why most versed developers hate PHP.

In such case, then he will learn what needs to be done. But we are talking about one choosing his place in programming and so...
Read the thread well...

aronski:


In such case, then he will learn what needs to be done. But we are talking about one choosing his place in programming and so...
Read the thread well...

Choosing your place in programming does not mean the language itself. It means the sector. For example you want to be a web developer, it is basic to use PHP, HTML,JS,CSS. But when you want to develop a more scalable web application you must extend your knowledge. For example developing a PWA website, you will be needing a more advanced frontend library like react, angular. Realtime data like socket, going with Nodejs will do the magic with high speed. So you see? Web development comes by level. You can keep arguing but i'm only giving you facts. Staying on one language will limit what you can possibly achieve in a quick time.

devdev:

Choosing your place in programming does not mean the language itself. It means the sector. For example you want to be a web developer, it is basic to use PHP, HTML,JS,CSS. But when you want to develop a more scalable web application you must extend your knowledge. For example developing a PWA website, you will be needing a more advanced frontend library like react, angular. Realtime data like socket, going with Nodejs will do the magic with high speed. So you see? Web development comes by level. You can keep arguing but i'm only giving you facts. Staying on one language will limit what you can possibly achieve in a quick time.

Hahaha! did I hear u say "Basic" (PHP and co)
ur own no be for here again, just dey go

devdev:

Ok one question for you since you think all languages do the same thing. If i have an oracle database and there is no api whatsoever to connect to my website, how do i fetch this data in PHP. Mind you, the oracle database is on a different server, nothing connects it to my server. How do i query the oracle database from my PHP site. If you have no answer to this, then please go and learn more backend languages.

go continue learning


Leave let me mind my own

peterangelo:
go continue learning


Leave let me mind my own

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