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Nna men!

I like this. We struggle n get PDP own n then struggle for APC own. At least if we don't get APC own we manage PDP own.

What can a niggah do?

Charmingrascal:
No party will risk giving its Presidential ticket to the South East.


It's a big risk that can end the relevance of a political party. That's the bitter truth

You speak my mind bro...

Nna men!

I love this.
Let's get PDP own first then we struggle for APC own. If by 2023 we don't have the two we can manage PDP own.

What can a niggah do?

[quote author= post=91497154]SOUTH EAST: IS IT NOT TOO LATE?

I have read the recent transmissions by Senator Bukola Saraki directed at my Igbo tribe. I have deliberately kept mum on this as I had earlier resolved to speak less on Igbos as regards the 2019 Elections and 2023 Presidency having said quite a bit. 

However seeing as some of my brethren have swallowed the cheap bait, I will chip this in just to keep the reality before us, at least for posterity sake. Truth is bitter but it's still the best medicine. 

My people say; 'He who does not remember where the rain started beating him, will not remember where it stopped'. 

REWIND TO 2014. 
A new National Party was being conceived. Political Parties, political players and Regions were being wooed to the new alliance. 

'We' Igbos (read South East) vehemently refused to touch it even with a long pole. We packaged, sold to ourselves and bought the baseless propaganda that it was an Islamic alliance that would birth an "Islamic" and "Hausa" Party. Simply because those our brethren heavily invested in the PDP at the time were afraid of losing their vested selfish interests.
Till today I'm still trying to fathom the basis for that wicked and twisted deceit especially as many of those Igbo elites who sold that dummy have since ported to the same APC.

We failed to even identify with that new Alliance. Hence the Party, APC was birthed without any remarkable input from us or presence. The few amongst us who aligned were called all kinds of names and abused to high heavens by us even when they were proven right afterall.

Thus the few Igbos who were part of it were at best fringe players as they didn't have the required clout to make serious demands and do the necessary political wheeling and dealing required in Politics to strike the hard bargains since politics is all about interests and numbers. They were even suspect, so much so that it was only their personal political sagacity that gave them whatever they got.

That Party went on to win the Presidential Election which in truth, most of us never believed it could or would, because of our half baked permutations and poor understanding of Nigerian politics. But it did. 

Curiously we turned up at the fore front of telling this same Party how it should share it's 'spoils of war'. We became hypocritical moral champions with an over bloated sense of entitlement. Who does that, in all political reality and practicality? But we did, even while vehemently and vociferously still refusing to shift our position, style and rhethoric.

We dug in. Supported every bad thing and person against the Party, the elected President and the Administration while denying any and every good done to and for our Region.

Fast forward to where we are today. Almost four years after the 2015 misadventure, we have stayed put at 2015, refusing to move forward, refusing to shift grounds, refusing to play pragmatic politics, telling ourselves the same lies we cooked and bought in 2015 and some more. 

Now after election, we have started again saying "APC cannot give Presidency to Igbos in 2023". "Buhari cannot hand over to an Igbo man because Buhari hates Igbos". "APC is deceiving you", bla bla bla.

Of course. We will believe Saraki, who has only but a fanthom dream of becoming President and whose only known record is selfishness but we can't believe Buhari who's already President and who has a record of voluntarily picking two great Igbo sons as running mates in the past? Chukwu aju.

It is interesting and vital to note here that the PDP which many of us still proudly support and adore was in power for 16 solid years and in those years there were 4 Presidential Inaugurations and on none of those was an Igbo man found worthy by the PDP of even Vice Presidency and we are still bold to say it is the APC that has not even finished one tenure that doesn't want to give power to Igbos. Odi nma. 

NOW; Seriously, let's be sincere. As things stand today politically, why would the APC even hand power to us Igbos in 2023? 
On what grounds? 
On what records?
On what politics?
Is power given to anyone? 
Is it an appeasement or a gift? 

The APC is a political party. The main focus of a political Party is to hold power and keep it to enable it deliver on its agenda. So if the APC reads that the SE does not want the Presidency or does not have the capacity to help them win and keep power, they will stick with the regions that can and work with individuals who are interested. 

Make no mistake, I have always said, I do not blame us Igbos for the decision majority of us took in 2015. It's our right. But continuing to pretend that it was other regions, Buhari or the APC that made us do what we did then or remain where we are today is purely self deceit and I refuse to play that ostrich game. 

As far back as 2014, I and many others made that argument that Igbo Presidency was very feasible in 2023, ONLY under under the APC, ONLY IF we did a couple of things right politically. I personally continued to speak loudly on that even after the 2015 elections until when I realized that we were not ready to play the politics that was required and now I dare say it may be too late. Or is it not? Time will tell.

For now, we can continue to tell ourselves that we cannot hold the Presidency of Nigeria. We heard and read many of our brethren go from PDP to Biafra/seccesion (read IPOB) to Referendum to "Igbos do not need Presidency but Restructuring" etc forgetting that all that didn't lie squarely with us alone. We think other regions are not reading our body language?

We really don't care what Saraki writes or says because they've all come to realize that it's very easy to play us like a flute. So like Saraki, like Fani Kayode, like Fayose, like Atiku, even Jonah Jang of all people, they keep playing us.

We have learnt not to bother ourself anymore to avoid unnecessary arguements with nonentities
As some of us have said, it's good governance we want, even if only one village will be producing the Presidents. So be it..

Ka Chineke mezie okwu.

J.I


Only a sensible person like you can ever see sense in this.
Glad to see we still have intelligent people with a sound mind like you around.
God bless you.
God bless Nigeria.[/quote]Epic write up.... You just hit the nail directly on its cap based on the realities on ground

jojofola:
Make we scatter everything abeg!!

Tell PDP

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Amotolongbo:
This is where the Ndigbo and Atiku Abubakar go fight.

I don’t see Atiku backing out on his presidential ambition, and the last time I checked, Atiku is from the North east and not south east.

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Charmingrascal:
No party will risk giving its Presidential ticket to the South East.


It's a big risk that can end the relevance of a political party. That's the bitter truth

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GuyWise101:
Igbos are only demanding that PDP and Apc should zone their candidate in SE alone as it was done to Yorubas and North when it was their turn.

Oil dey your head, exactly what we want

tamdun:
Now you are talking,no region deserve pdp presidential ticket more than South East, APC will not give you their ticket because they hardly get 5% of south East votes and if pdp failed to give u the ticket, I see no reason why u should continue with the loyalty except...

typical Yoruba man

kaylardz:
lol...this one is speaking for himself.
I trust my Ibo brothers, they dare not face a Yoruba man in general election cos the beating will be too much. meanwhile, 1,000 Atiku can never stop a Yoruba Presidency in 2023.

a Yoruba man can't be president of Nigeria.
North will take it back if Yoruba dares Ibo

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PigTormentor:
The real Fulani slaves

Let the Pandemic Development Party PDP field another Fulani. The real Fulani slaves can't wait to vote for another Fulani, it's their modus operandi since the first Republic.

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fairfora:
I am not talking of governors here...supporters

And what's the point of having supporters who can't deliver their states?

etibaba:
Now this is how to play politics, PDP owes South East for their support unlike South East expecting a party they have never supported (APC) to reward them with the number 1 position ticket.

You can't work and retire in company A and queue up to get your salary and Gratuity at company B.

You people have started again
You have not finished licking the wounds of oshiomole and Jagaban Humiliation

Don't worry, we will send Giadom to you people again

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techmo:
Nobody zoned anything in 99

Alex Ekwueme contested the Jos Primaries against Obasanjo and lost under PDP




21 years a PDP/ northern slaves hahahaha

Time to beg your PDP/North master



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richiemcgold:
The best way PDP can reward the southeast for their loyalty is to give the presidential ticket to the region. APC should do the same to the southwest. All I want is power to return to the south in 2023.

APC shouldn't give it's ticket to South West, they don't deserve it

Haywhysat:
It is very logical... Only fools will believe a region (North) will rule for 16 years.... Both APC and PDP will zone their tickets to South cum 2023.....

Correct your self

Its South East

omenka:
My stomach!!!

What is giving Wike heartache is what you are laughing at. Wike singlehandedly sponsored PDP for 4 years. Atiku came one weekend, paid delegates, collected the party from Wike right at his backyard in PH and is now sending Wike to run errands for him.

PDP is a worthless den of hungry thieves. Even you as you are, if you have money, you can buy PDP and start sending Wike on errands too.

Wike has turn to political DHL.

You don start oo

gwafaeziokwu:
Very strong reply from the South East PDP.

It's game on!!! 2023 is make or mar.

I've been saying this for ages. Deny the eastern political class 2023 and watch a rebirth of Igbo nationalism.

Igbo presidency is their baby, the ordinary Igbo man on the streets want his Biafra.

It will be hotter than hot.

Blackking98:
The SS has six PDP govenors
The SE has three PDP govenors
Get your stats right on who has the highest PDP support

He is looking at the ratio of votes.south east usually gives 90% of votes to PDp while south south gives less than 80%

Dansuqi:
He is looking at the ratio of votes.south east usually gives 90% of votes to PDp while south south gives less than 80%

Even when you add the figures the SS 70% for PDP outnumbers the SE 90% for PDP

Blackking98:
Even when you add the figures the SS 70% for PDP outnumbers the SE 90% for PDP

Your right sha just that ss are more open to APC than east

Clown.. U can only get pdp own..

Never with APC..


Did APC and pdp field a Yoruba man together

Did they field a hausa man together..


Guy face the truth.... PDP VS APC... Is igbo VS yoruba

In 1999 the two major parties fielded two yorubas - Obasanjo and falae

In 2007 two north west fulanis
Buhari and yar adua

Please don't resort to your usual - the SW is owing you nothing whenever we answer your questions correctly

FOOLISH TALK.

Charmingrascal:
No party will risk giving its Presidential ticket to the South East.


It's a big risk that can end the relevance of a political party. That's the bitter truth

[quote author=Charmingrascal post=91496844]No party will risk giving its Presidential ticket to the South East.


It's a big risk that can end the relevance of a political party. That's the bitter truth[/quot

nkwachii:
APC shouldn't give it's ticket to South West, they don't deserve it

Be deceiving ur self. APC ticket is going to SWest, Pdp should give its ticket to SEast if Atiku allows it. But my submission is that giving Presidential ticket to SouthEast is too risky, because SE can only get little votes ftom South south, but nothing from the rest zones.

bigfish3k:
In 1999 the two major parties fielded two yorubas - Obasanjo and falae

In 2007 two north west fulanis
Buhari and yar adua

Please don't resort to your usual - the SW is owing you nothing whenever we answer your questions correctly

APC=Ibo, PDP=Ibo, or North will take it back

basybasy:
Be deceiving ur self. APC ticket is going to SWest, Pdp should give its ticket to SEast if Atiku allows it. But my submission is that giving Presidential ticket to SouthEast is too risky, because SE can only get little votes ftom South south, but nothing from the rest zones.

it will never happen.
South East will teach South West lesson in a hard way

etibaba:
Now this is how to play politics, PDP owes South East for their support unlike South East expecting a party they have never supported (APC) to reward them with the number 1 position ticket.

You can't work and retire in company A and queue up to get your salary and Gratuity at company B.

Being a president of a country doesn't mean you are president for only the people that voted for you. This your logic is senseless.

Las las pigidioottts remain underdogsa cum slaves be it PDP or APC.

Haven't they been yelling that they'd rather have a northerner win in 2023 while they play 2nd fiddle rather than see a Yoruba emerge as president

So what's the issue here Abeg VP candidacy is their portion in Nigeria...

hmm!

2023 should be the turn of South East, but since something is not alright, we will be behind anyone from the north, we have to redeem our image.

2023 elections is going to be a do or die affair, should incase south east did not contest for Presidential election, we south east will do everything possible to redeem a northern Presidential candidate

South west does not exist as far as 2023 election is concerned, they will not see any vote from South east and south south, as I said earlier, there's image to redeem, all the insults south east and south south have received from South West would be settled during 2023 elections, a lesson needs be taught.

We will rather vote and support a Goat or a Cow from the North than to support anyone from South West, since they don't want to support us, we will never support them, this is South East Youth Wing decision, remember we are in Democracy, Government of the people, by the people and for the people.

Someone Must Receive Sense Come 2023



Courtesy: Igbo Spokesperson

Who are those goats reject zoning to the north? Respect yourselves oo... This country is for the north and the north alone to rule!