Pachukwudi44 peeped and ran away. Any comments on this sir?

wink2015:


It would be totally unfair for a northerner to become President after 8 years of the Buhari administration who is also from the north.

The Presidency should be thrown open to competent hands from core Igbos states e.g Anambra, Abia, Imo, Enugu and Ebonyi state.

And why should that be so?

All political parties want to win an election. And they'll only field a candidate that guarantees that

majamajic:


SW PDP is weak

South East apc is weaker

wink2015:


It would be totally unfair for a northerner to become President after 8 years of the Buhari administration who is also from the north.

The Presidency should be thrown open to competent hands from core Igbos states e.g Anambra, Abia, Imo, Enugu and Ebonyi state.

Last election PDP gave the Vice Presidency to core Igbo States, how many votes did the core Igbo States give PDP?

Let me tell you something. Atiku and PDP are regretting not giving SW VP slot under Atiku. Despite the fact that SE got VP slot, their votes were the lowest in the country. Imagine if Atiku picked a VP from the SW, he could have won. 2023, Igbos would need to fight for the PDP ticket cos PDP is not ready to donate ticket to Igbos.

PigTormentor:
The real Fulani slaves

Let the Pandemic Development Party PDP field another Fulani. The real Fulani slaves can't wait to vote for another Fulani, it's their modus operandi since the first Republic.

Low reasoning and calculation, who voted Buhari Which people was shouting say baba during campaign

Always reason well before talking

Ibo already said they want North to continue ruling. So this zoning is a response to their prayer to keep North in rulership.

wink2015:


It would be totally unfair for a northerner to become President in 2023 after 8 years of the Buhari administration who is also from the north.

The Presidency should be thrown open to competent hands from south especially the south east.

PDP shud be thrown in the hand of the igbos...
Moreover there is no competent igbo in politics..

And it is not given, u take it by force


Learn politics my bro... It is not emotion..

Southeast is not even worth 5 states it shud be merge into one state

Amotollongbo:
This is where the Ndigbo and Atiku Abubakar go fight.

I don’t see Atiku backing out on his presidential ambition, and the last time I checked, Atiku is from the North east and not south east.

Which yeye fight? Atikwu is ibo. Ibos wont fight ibo.

ud4u:


Low reasoning and calculation, who voted Buhari Which people was shouting say baba during campaign

Always reason well before talking

Did you not vote Atiku? Abi Atiku na Yoruba?

omenka:
Which yeye fight? Atikwu is ibo. Ibos wont fight ibo.

Alhaji Atikwu Uche Abubakar

nice one from south east PDP

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SOUTH EAST: IS IT NOT TOO LATE?

I have read the recent transmissions by Senator Bukola Saraki directed at my Igbo tribe. I have deliberately kept mum on this as I had earlier resolved to speak less on Igbos as regards the 2019 Elections and 2023 Presidency having said quite a bit. 

However seeing as some of my brethren have swallowed the cheap bait, I will chip this in just to keep the reality before us, at least for posterity sake. Truth is bitter but it's still the best medicine. 

My people say; 'He who does not remember where the rain started beating him, will not remember where it stopped'. 

REWIND TO 2014. 
A new National Party was being conceived. Political Parties, political players and Regions were being wooed to the new alliance. 

'We' Igbos (read South East) vehemently refused to touch it even with a long pole. We packaged, sold to ourselves and bought the baseless propaganda that it was an Islamic alliance that would birth an "Islamic" and "Hausa" Party. Simply because those our brethren heavily invested in the PDP at the time were afraid of losing their vested selfish interests.
Till today I'm still trying to fathom the basis for that wicked and twisted deceit especially as many of those Igbo elites who sold that dummy have since ported to the same APC.

We failed to even identify with that new Alliance. Hence the Party, APC was birthed without any remarkable input from us or presence. The few amongst us who aligned were called all kinds of names and abused to high heavens by us even when they were proven right afterall.

Thus the few Igbos who were part of it were at best fringe players as they didn't have the required clout to make serious demands and do the necessary political wheeling and dealing required in Politics to strike the hard bargains since politics is all about interests and numbers. They were even suspect, so much so that it was only their personal political sagacity that gave them whatever they got.

That Party went on to win the Presidential Election which in truth, most of us never believed it could or would, because of our half baked permutations and poor understanding of Nigerian politics. But it did. 

Curiously we turned up at the fore front of telling this same Party how it should share it's 'spoils of war'. We became hypocritical moral champions with an over bloated sense of entitlement. Who does that, in all political reality and practicality? But we did, even while vehemently and vociferously still refusing to shift our position, style and rhethoric.

We dug in. Supported every bad thing and person against the Party, the elected President and the Administration while denying any and every good done to and for our Region.

Fast forward to where we are today. Almost four years after the 2015 misadventure, we have stayed put at 2015, refusing to move forward, refusing to shift grounds, refusing to play pragmatic politics, telling ourselves the same lies we cooked and bought in 2015 and some more. 

Now after election, we have started again saying "APC cannot give Presidency to Igbos in 2023". "Buhari cannot hand over to an Igbo man because Buhari hates Igbos". "APC is deceiving you", bla bla bla.

Of course. We will believe Saraki, who has only but a fanthom dream of becoming President and whose only known record is selfishness but we can't believe Buhari who's already President and who has a record of voluntarily picking two great Igbo sons as running mates in the past? Chukwu aju.

It is interesting and vital to note here that the PDP which many of us still proudly support and adore was in power for 16 solid years and in those years there were 4 Presidential Inaugurations and on none of those was an Igbo man found worthy by the PDP of even Vice Presidency and we are still bold to say it is the APC that has not even finished one tenure that doesn't want to give power to Igbos. Odi nma. 

NOW; Seriously, let's be sincere. As things stand today politically, why would the APC even hand power to us Igbos in 2023? 
On what grounds? 
On what records?
On what politics?
Is power given to anyone? 
Is it an appeasement or a gift? 

The APC is a political party. The main focus of a political Party is to hold power and keep it to enable it deliver on its agenda. So if the APC reads that the SE does not want the Presidency or does not have the capacity to help them win and keep power, they will stick with the regions that can and work with individuals who are interested. 

Make no mistake, I have always said, I do not blame us Igbos for the decision majority of us took in 2015. It's our right. But continuing to pretend that it was other regions, Buhari or the APC that made us do what we did then or remain where we are today is purely self deceit and I refuse to play that ostrich game. 

As far back as 2014, I and many others made that argument that Igbo Presidency was very feasible in 2023, ONLY under under the APC, ONLY IF we did a couple of things right politically. I personally continued to speak loudly on that even after the 2015 elections until when I realized that we were not ready to play the politics that was required and now I dare say it may be too late. Or is it not? Time will tell.

For now, we can continue to tell ourselves that we cannot hold the Presidency of Nigeria. We heard and read many of our brethren go from PDP to Biafra/seccesion (read IPOB) to Referendum to "Igbos do not need Presidency but Restructuring" etc forgetting that all that didn't lie squarely with us alone. We think other regions are not reading our body language?

We really don't care what Saraki writes or says because they've all come to realize that it's very easy to play us like a flute. So like Saraki, like Fani Kayode, like Fayose, like Atiku, even Jonah Jang of all people, they keep playing us.

We have learnt not to bother ourself anymore to avoid unnecessary arguements with nonentities
As some of us have said, it's good governance we want, even if only one village will be producing the Presidents. So be it..

Ka Chineke mezie okwu.

J.I


Only a sensible person like you can ever see sense in this.
Glad to see we still have intelligent people with a sound mind like you around.
God bless you.
God bless Nigeria.

You have said the truth and nothing but the truth.. Let our people continue to do the same thing and expect a different result.. I have read the survival of an organism lies not in its raw "strength but in the degree of its adaptability" .. This is one thing the Igbo man is lacking.. Political adaptability. He allow emotions and brut strength lead the way.. As Amaechi talk we dey sit down look.. Ya diri gi na nma.

GuyWise101:
Igbos are only demanding that PDP and Apc should zone their candidate in SE alone as it was done to Yorubas and North when it was their turn.

Keep fooling your deluded father at home.
Both party will zone to the South n SW SS SE will fight for the ticket like Ekwume n Obasanjo did. Your father wailing to death won't change that.

Haywhysat:
It is very logical... Only fools will believe a region (North) will rule for 16 years.... Both APC and PDP will zone their tickets to South cum 2023.....

Lmao! You want to drag with your masters? Them go flog una better koboko.

TechSkill:
I am igbo myself but if PDP wants to win come 2023, they should give it to Atiku... it is strategic to do that for their own long term benefit. APC can give theirs to Tinubu.

It may sound stupid but it is the logical thing to do at the moment...

I'm Yoruba and I don't want you to read my comment from a tribalistic point of view, please. I don't even like to comment on political matters but I want to point something out to you.

It will be historic and far better for an Igbo man to contest the presidency and lose on the platform of the PDP than for Atiku contest and win.

This is a party you've helped build like any other region and for just too long but you're willing to gamble Atiku for the presidency but scared to gamble your own man?

Isn't that even slavery? If your man loses, then so be it but pushing another tribe forward because you're scared of the APC's candidate is not wise. The federal might still rests on the APC and they can explore all means to rig Atiku out again. Then would you field Atiku after 4 years again?

Man up and look anyone who stands in your way in the eyes. Else, you'll simply remain a pawn on the board of the PDP.

GuyWise101:
Igbos are only demanding that PDP and Apc should zone their candidate in SE alone as it was done to Yorubas and North when it was their turn.

Nobody zones or dash you anything. You phucking work for it. You are shouting biafra.ud and insulting every other tribe and calling the country a zoo, yet you want same country and tribe to dash you presidency. The same people who shout they don't need presidency and brag about how they are the biggest and richest tribe in Africa.

Amotolongbo:
This is where the Ndigbo and Atiku Abubakar go fight.

I don’t see Atiku backing out on his presidential ambition, and the last time I checked, Atiku is from the North east and not south east.

Atiku has hijacked PDP. Dont you see what he has done?

He activated support groups for Obaseki and then called on PDP governors to do whatever possible and get Edo for PDP.

Not just in Edo....even in NASS you can see his influence.

These ones are born to be slaves.

Amotolongbo:
This is where the Ndigbo and Atiku Abubakar go fight.

I don’t see Atiku backing out on his presidential ambition, and the last time I checked, Atiku is from the North east and not south east.

North East and South East na relation because East dey both

MetaPhysical:


Atiku has hijacked PDP. Dont you see what he has done?

He activated support groups for Obaseki and then called on PDP governors to do whatever possible and get Edo for PDP.

Not just in Edo....even in NASS you can see his influence.

That is why Wike nearly slapped Atiku on Twitter the other day. Atiku give Wike assignment.

Funny enough na Ebonyi carry the south east leadership of PDP and APC.. Austine Umahi is the elder brother of Ebonyi governor while APC leader of South East is Min of science and technology, Dr Ogbonnaya ọnụ and both are from same community, Ụbụrụ in Ohaozara LGA of Ebonyi state..

Meanwhile if PDP zones their ticket to the north, South East should aim for APC ticket, Sen Ken Nnamani is qualified for the position,. ENUGU needs to have a representation too

Charmingrascal:
No party will risk giving its Presidential ticket to the South East.


It's a big risk that can end the relevance of a political party. That's the bitter truth

Fact. The objective of any political party is to capture or retain power. Presently, the SE cannot facilitate any of these for PDP nor APC, hence it will be suicidal for any party to present a south easterner

Charmingrascal:
No party will risk giving its Presidential ticket to the South East.


It's a big risk that can end the relevance of a political party. That's the bitter truth

Your point exactly?

It will be a fight to finish between North and South over who produces next President. No Southern whether in APC or PDP should even support the denial of any Southern in his part of the right to produce the next President. By 2023, the North would have had its uninterrupted 8 years stay in power. The natural thing is for power to return to the South. Let South West clinch APC ticket and South East PDP ticket, all of them with Northern VP ticket let them taste their popularity since Southwest isn't ready to reciprocate the favour the East and South South gave to their own Obj from 1999 to 2007 when they massively supported and voted him even when his own rejected him.

Igbobywife:
Ehn ehn. E Don start..

There is no way An igbo man will defeat a Yoruba man in election..

It can never happen...


Igbos are scared of facing yorubas...

They know they don't stand a chance, that's why dey are shouting North 4eva...

Igbos I challenge you.. If truly you guys are major tribe like hausa and Yoruba..

Don't hide behind Atiku.

Coman face a Yoruba APC come 2023.



It is a dead end for pdp igbo presidential aspirations.

Infact, an APC man from middle belt will win an election against PDP igbo any day any time comfortably without a campaign..


Let him just say he is going for president and no campaign at all then see how igbo who has spent billions of naira for campaigns will fail...


Igbos have never learnt, right from 1960s.... They still never learn politics... They depend on emotions



the whole Southeast states is not even worth 5 states.. I suggest that Buhari or the next Yoruba president merge them into ONE state and added under Niger Delta

What if your slave masters the Fulani decide to hand it to an ibo person?
Can any yoruba person defeat a northern candidate if they decide to contest for the presidency?

I'd rather vote a northerner instead of these stupid pigs just like they like to do to Yoruba people. Let them have their biafuro and get the fvck out. No nyamuri will rule this country. NEVER

Once Atiku settle mr secondus, them go mellow and bow to their master as usual. This is just another scope to collect money from oga Atiku.

Excellent and clean objective comment.

ThreeBlackBird:


I'm Yoruba and I don't want you to read my comment from a tribalistic point of view, please. I don't even like to comment on political matters but I want to point something out to you.

It will be historic and far better for an Igbo man to contest the presidency and lose on the platform of the PDP than for Atiku contest and win.

This is a party you've helped build like any other region and for just too long but you're willing to gamble Atiku for the presidency but scared to gamble your own man?

Isn't that even slavery? If your man loses, then so be it but pushing another tribe forward because you're scared of the APC's candidate is not wise. The federal might still rests on the APC and they can explore all means to rig Atiku out again. Then would you field Atiku after 4 years again?

Man up and look anyone who stands in your way in the eyes. Else, you'll simply remain a pawn on the board of the PDP.

Enugupikin:
Funny enough na Ebonyi carry the south east leadership of PDP and APC.. Austine Umahi is the elder brother of Ebonyi governor while APC leader of South East is Min of science and technology, Dr Ogbonnaya ọnụ and both are from same community, Ụbụrụ in Ohaozara LGA of Ebonyi state..

Meanwhile if PDP zones their ticket to the north, South East should aim for APC ticket, Sen Ken Nnamani is qualified for the position,. ENUGU needs to have a representation too

I will gladly vote Ebonyi state governor as president. That man is one of the best performing governors since 2015.

Haywhysat:
It is very logical... Only fools will believe a region (North) will rule for 16 years.... Both APC and PDP will zone their tickets to South cum 2023.....

The CPC will arise and The Akintolas and The Okorochas of this Nation will form an alliance with them to keep the North in power.