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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 10:29am On Jul 10, 2020
The point no be say you no fit get players from there. You fit, but na very high-risk players. There's a high chance that bringing in a player supposedly doing well in the "backwater leagues" will fail in the premier league, especially cos some of the players you could get of that amount are still budding. So quite understand why they would turn to the championship or other premier league players, cos, for the most part, these guys are used to the premier league or to something of a similar level of difficulty/rigority. So as a recruiter you gotta make a choice. Do you want to take the risk? Or do you want someone that has a higher probability of fitting right in. Now there's the problem that the players you get from the championship/Premier league are below average anyway, why would their former teams not renew their contract unless they are from the championship or you are offering a better salary. Besides some EPL teams still have decent academies.
andrewbaba44:


The players they buy from Belgium and co Go kuku carry them go relegation

Epl teams no go ever learn ,their academy no kuku good to help them

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:29am On Jul 10, 2020
TheSuperNerd:
I hope Daniel, Elfy and other Liverpoolians won't stone me for the pic shaa. grin But I just wanted to make a point. Lol

Hwang Hee Chan is a very good talent. He's 24. Same age with Werner. But yeah, I rate Osimhen above Hwang. I agree Victor is better.



I no Dey oo grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 10:30am On Jul 10, 2020
sheyishemba:


I laff Gan in CMF position in Chelsea lampard go first chose kante gilmour before he even think of Jorginho
I agree with you on laliga but remember Dennis Suarez flopped at arsenal even delofeu in Watford like I've said EPL is not for children nah legends and proven player that go to that league no caps imagine the likes of Udinese ,, leganes ,Mallorca,in EPL am damn sure they will struggle in Championship Sheffield and wolves came in from championship last two season now they are in Top 10 imagine Bournemouth ,Norwich in relegation zone

Why do you say lampard will go for Gilmour over Jorginho in CMF?
imo the reverse is the case and it depends on how we want to play, Gilmour is not yet accustomed to first team football and we saw it in the last two matches especially against Crystal Palace you saw how Jorginho calm the game down when he entered....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 10:31am On Jul 10, 2020
When VVD finally decides to take on a forward instead of receding. grin
TheSuperNerd:


It's no more vacant. Leipzig have found a replacement already.
They have gotten Hwang Hee Chan, RB Salzburg forward (wore #9 for them) who formed an attacking trident with Minamino and Haaland.


He is the one who did this to VVD in the UCL.

And yes, he scored right after bamboozling VVD this way. Red Bull clubs no dey laugh. wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:33am On Jul 10, 2020
benji93:
The point no be say you no fit get players from there. You fit, but na very high-risk players. There's a high chance that bringing in a player supposedly doing well in the "backwater leagues" will fail in the premier league, especially cos some of the players you could get of that amount are still budding. So quite understand why they would turn to the championship or other premier league players, cos, for the most part, these guys are used to the premier league or to something of a similar level of difficulty/rigority. So as a recruiter you gotta make a choice. Do you want to take the risk? Or do you want someone that has a higher probability of fitting right in. Now there's the problem that the players you get from the championship/Premier league are below average anyway, why would their former teams not renew their contract unless they are from the championship or you are offering a better salary. Besides some EPL teams still have decent academies.

There is no risk buying a player for 7 to 8 million euros if them flop you go move on easily

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:33am On Jul 10, 2020
Edopesin:


Why do you say lampard will go for Gilmour over Jorginho in CMF?
imo the reverse is the case and it depends on how we want to play, Gilmour is not yet accustomed to first team football and we saw it in the last two matches especially against Crystal Palace you saw how Jorginho calm the game down when he entered....

Because say you be Chelsea fan no mean say make you no talk true

You see that guy ? E no sabi wetin e Dey talk or e no Dey watch Chelsea

Eod

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 10:35am On Jul 10, 2020
Lille are desperate to sell Osimhen due to financial crisis. They also promised Napoli that they owed them one after Nicolas Pepe rejected them in favour of Arsenal. This is why Osimhen is delaying, because it seems Lille are pressuring him to sign the deal. Osimhen isn't taking time to ponder the deal, but is delaying in the expectation of an offer from the EPL.

Everton have already shown firm interest in the player and are expected to bid for him. Osimhen doesn't want to make the same mistake he made when he moved to Wolfsburg having been pressured.

Italian papers say that De Laurentiis wants to close the deal as soon as possible to avoid a mockery at the last moment as happened with Pépé. The Napoli fan base are becoming frustrated with Osimhen.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 10:41am On Jul 10, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Because say you be Chelsea fan no mean say make you no talk true

You see that guy ? E no sabi wetin e Dey talk or e no Dey watch Chelsea

Eod

Gilmour is good o but I no dey craze wey I go pick am over Jorginho... for wetin?... I don't see why any sensible coach will pick Gilmour over Jorginho

Kante is a different story
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:43am On Jul 10, 2020
Edopesin:


Gilmour is good o but I no dey craze wey I go pick am over Jorginho... for wetin?... I don't see why any sensible coach will pick Gilmour over Jorginho

Kante is a different story

That’s what I am saying

Imagine saying Riqui Puig is ahead of Busquets

Jorginho wasn’t given assistant captain for nothing
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 10:44am On Jul 10, 2020
TheSuperNerd:
I hope Daniel, Elfy and other Liverpoolians won't stone me for the pic shaa. grin But I just wanted to make a point. Lol

Hwang Hee Chan is a very good talent. He's 24. Same age with Werner. But yeah, I rate Osimhen above Hwang. I agree Victor is better.



Hwang is not a striker, man. There is no comparison.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:49am On Jul 10, 2020
TheLoneCitizen:


Hwang is not a striker, man. There is no comparison.

Main position is centre forward
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 10:50am On Jul 10, 2020
TheLoneCitizen:

Hwang is not a striker, man. There is no comparison.
Is there another Hwang in Salzburg?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 10:57am On Jul 10, 2020
TheSuperNerd:
I hope Daniel, Elfy and other Liverpoolians won't stone me for the pic shaa. grin But I just wanted to make a point. Lol

Hwang Hee Chan is a very good talent. He's 24. Same age with Werner. But yeah, I rate Osimhen above Hwang. I agree Victor is better.




That one no be argument grin


RBL would have gone for Victor if they have the money. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 11:09am On Jul 10, 2020
Utonwanne:



But guy Make I no lie.

Greenwood is good

Lol...bro that was how Rashford started na even walcot, weilbeck, lingard and Jordan Ibe, Dele Alli and more

I am not moved by all this....just give them few years and see how well he goes
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 11:11am On Jul 10, 2020
TheLoneCitizen:
Lille are desperate to sell Osimhen due to financial crisis. They also promised Napoli that they owed them one after Nicolas Pepe rejected them in favour of Arsenal. This is why Osimhen is delaying, because it seems Lille are pressuring him to sign the deal. Osimhen isn't taking time to ponder the deal, but is delaying in the expectation of an form from the EPL.

Everton have already shown firm interest in the player and are expected to bid for him. Osimhen doesn't want to make the same mistake he made when he moved to Wolfsburg having been pressured.

Italian papers say that De Laurentiis wants to close the deal as soon as possible to avoid a mockery at the last moment as happened with Pépé. The Napoli fan base are becoming frustrated with Osimhen.

so oshimen will prefer Everton, Newcastle and other low epl teams to Napoli

this dude is funny

anyway that's his choice

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 11:13am On Jul 10, 2020
benji93:
The point no be say you no fit get players from there. You fit, but na very high-risk players. There's a high chance that bringing in a player supposedly doing well in the "backwater leagues" will fail in the premier league, especially cos some of the players you could get of that amount are still budding. So quite understand why they would turn to the championship or other premier league players, cos, for the most part, these guys are used to the premier league or to something of a similar level of difficulty/rigority. So as a recruiter you gotta make a choice. Do you want to take the risk? Or do you want someone that has a higher probability of fitting right in. Now there's the problem that the players you get from the championship/Premier league are below average anyway, why would their former teams not renew their contract unless they are from the championship or you are offering a better salary. Besides some EPL teams still have decent academies.

exactly if I was an epl coach I will prefer buy young prospects from the championship that was how joe Cole and Frank lampard came to Chelsea and the rest today is history
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 11:14am On Jul 10, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Agreed with all what you said

Give Lazio 150 million to add to what they have and they might even win Seria with such

Na English clubs dem Dey scam sha

their media don paint them na as money bags

so what do you expect
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:18am On Jul 10, 2020
Lol... He is. Interesting that you don't know. He is a centre forward/striker who can also play from the sides as he is very speedy and mobile so yes, comparison can be made indeed.


TheLoneCitizen:


Hwang is not a striker, man. There is no comparison.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:20am On Jul 10, 2020
humility33:


Lol...bro that was how Rashford started na even walcot, weilbeck, lingard and Jordan Ibe, Dele Alli and more

I am not moved by all this....just give them few years and see how well he goes

But Rashford is still doing well nah
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by timay(m): 11:23am On Jul 10, 2020
andrewbaba44:


But Rashford is still doing well nah

Me I don't know why he keeps Lumping Rashford together with all those flops. Someone that is just having the best season of his career so far. The guy just dey yarn dust with that Rashford addition. I'm sure Chelsea fans won't dare call him a flop.

Even Welbeck had a wonderful career before he left Man Utd and also did well at Arsenal too.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 11:26am On Jul 10, 2020
Not when you buy multiple players at a price totaling about 150 million. cheesy
andrewbaba44:


There is no risk buying a player for 7 to 8 million euros if them flop you go move on easily
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:28am On Jul 10, 2020
The fact that Osimhen still hasn't given a definite response to Napoli shows that he isn't very keen on the move..

I don't agree with those saying he shouldn't move to the EPL..
If Napoli isn't really his preferred destination, nobody should force it on him...
He has the right to decide for himself..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 11:30am On Jul 10, 2020
Guy, no make i vex you ooo. grin. Rashford is Trash? Which kind weed you dey smoke. grin.Besides Rashford has improved over the years. They don't all have to be at the level of Ronaldo, Messi, Lewandowski e.t.c, and still be very good, possibly contributing to multiple championships. If your argument is that English players are usually overhyped, then i agree. Even some of those players you mentioned barring injury played some decent football over a period of 2/3 years.
humility33:


Lol...bro that was how Rashford started na even walcot, weilbeck, lingard and Jordan Ibe, Dele Alli and more

I am not moved by all this....just give them few years and see how well he goes
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 11:32am On Jul 10, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Main position is centre forward

Edopesin:


Is there another Hwang in Salzburg?

TheSuperNerd:
Lol... He is. Interesting that you don't know. He is a centre forward/striker who can also play from the sides as he is very speedy and mobile so yes, comparison can be made indeed.



I actually didn't realise this, he plays so far on the left that he looks like a winger. Never knew Salzburg played with two strikers. Apologies.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by timay(m): 11:34am On Jul 10, 2020
benji93:
Guy, no make i vex you ooo. grin. Rashford is Trash? Which kind weed you dey smoke. grin.Besides Rashford has improved over the years. They don't all have to be at the level of Ronaldo, Messi, Lewandowski e.t.c, and still be very good, possibly contributing to multiple championships.

Me sef dey wonder where the Rashford talk is coming from. Someone that compared to previous seasons where the hype was insane, this season is the best of them so far, and yet someone somewhere is calling him a flop. I'm sure Chelsea fans will not like this kind of flop to play against them grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 11:39am On Jul 10, 2020
timay:


Me sef dey wonder where the Rashford talk is coming from. Someone that compared to previous seasons where the hype was insane, this season is the best of them so far, and yet someone somewhere is calling him a flop. I'm sure Chelsea fans will not like this kind of flop to play against them grin

na lampard I blame if not una for no get mouth

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 11:40am On Jul 10, 2020
Blueelf:


I am not too keen on ighalo returning myself. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against him bit the guy still has problems taking his chances and it think his positioning is still wack.... A good player no doubt but let us focus on Osimhen and the other young dudes

it's fine I get you.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 11:42am On Jul 10, 2020
benji93:
Guy, no make i vex you ooo. grin. Rashford is Trash? Which kind weed you dey smoke. grin.Besides Rashford has improved over the years. They don't all have to be at the level of Ronaldo, Messi, Lewandowski e.t.c, and still be very good, possibly contributing to multiple championships. If your argument is that English players are usually overhyped, then i agree. Even some of those players you mentioned barring injury played some decent football over a period of 2/3 years.
oga I am not calling him a flop
you can tell from the way he started and now....everyone expects him to be on same level with mpape by now but not to be

remember the hype round him then
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eizzy003(m): 11:43am On Jul 10, 2020
TheLoneCitizen:


Hwang is not a striker, man. There is no comparison.
Dude can play anywhere upfront but his main position is centre forward

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 11:45am On Jul 10, 2020
andrewbaba44:


But Rashford is still doing well nah
Yeah he is...him and sterling are both doing well but he slowed down a little prior the COVID-19 hit

with the momentum he started.... remember he was still in high school then just like Greenwood and many more others but not all live up to that momentum
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:53am On Jul 10, 2020
humility33:

Yeah he is...him and sterling are both doing well but he slowed down a little prior the COVID-19 hit

with the momentum he started.... remember he was still in high school then just like Greenwood and many more others but not all live up to that momentum

Agreed
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by timay(m): 11:57am On Jul 10, 2020
humility33:

Yeah he is...him and sterling are both doing well but he slowed down a little prior the COVID-19 hit

with the momentum he started.... remember he was still in high school then just like Greenwood and many more others but not all live up to that momentum

Slowed down a bit or got injured. Don't forget that if not for Covid 19 he would have missed the better part of the season and even Euro 2020 too sef, except if England just wants to risk him just like we risked an Unfit Ighalo for AFCON last year

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