My Honda Civic's wheel has never pulled off o.

Honda don't have ball joint problems.
It's you that should stop buying expired cars

gonkin:
Hondas can squeeze the last dime outta your pocket especially when u are managing cash before payday. And in the last 4 days I saw 2 of these Honda accords u mentioned with the same issue broken down right at the center of the intersection. Baby boy and EOD.
I USED A 1995 ODYSSEY FOR 3 years and there was only one time i almost experienced the leg pull but a clip saved the fall. I felt it and knew it was the wheel framework falling apart so I parked by the side of the road and behold it was right there. So i rolled up the windows, locked the doors and took public transportation home. I slept well the next day I called a mechanic (I was using one then) and the guy charged me 3k to replace and put it back in order. Since then I started learning to check for any signs of collapse every 1 week and when I saw 1 I amended myself. Now I no longer use honda.
I'm now riding a 1992 landcruiser with front and rear solid axles. Everything is so easy to fix.
Only issues I have now is too much weight on rear tyres also I plan to change the axle seals and cv joints. It's quite easy running solid axles compared to IFS

Like seriously, you parked your car by the side of the road and went home to sleep?

Which side of the road did you park. I hope its the road inside your estste?

CaesarDon:


This is very sad actually, I was seriously contemplating getting a Honda evil spirit cos of its badass interior and sleek design


But friends are advicing me to opt for the camry muscle

But this problem is very bad, l remember the tyres of my Dad's CRV got removed in motion and high speed on the express

Honda should have done something about this flaw and recalled the vehicles, cos I'm cock sure this flaw has cost many lives

it doesn’t affect the Evil Spirit

Then, obviously, several ignorant people on this thread

BEANSANDBREAD00:


yes they are

Wow thanks alot

Roydonzy87:
Nice write up , this is one of the reason i gave out my first car Honda baby boy to my sister, it makes me hate Honda with passion because of this suspension... Thanks anyway for this information

So you gave a bad car to your sister. Were you planning to eliminate her?

My 1st car was a Civic 90, I could recall I was always changing the shaft at 3-4 months interval.

I have also had the opportunity of owning an Accord 2006 aka DC. I can testify to having this ball joint issue like twice. I'm very careful and meticulous about the maintenance of my car to the point that any unusual sound I hear is discomforting to my ears, and I
always buzz my mechanic to come check it out.

My mechanics take on the ball joint issue:
1. He is of the opinion that whenever you change the OEM part which comes with the car and source for new part, 9/10 favours you would lay your hands on a substandard / Chinese part.

2. Some mechanics miss small details, and hence don't do a thorough job fixing the issue.

3. Lack of maintainance from drivers and failure to notice warning signs.


As for me , I am done with Honda for life and never patronising it again. The legs are just too fragile for my liking and not reliable enough.
But if you can tackle these leg issues permanently, you'd definitely enjoy a Honda.

majamajic:


even the Honda company itself accepted the mistake, they corrected it from 2010 models up, apart from civic , every Honda product from 2001 including CR-V has that issue, though u might be one of very lucky few, even this Sunday on my way to songo OTA one woman with 2005 EOD was a victim just before ShopRite, I use Honda now too. I do avoid potholes alot and I don't turn full instead I do multiple sterling turn that's the only way am avoiding it. I use Honda and am aware it Happens , I see not less than 3 victims every week, all Honda !!

And I tell you PH has a lot of bad roads, goto places like oyigbo, and aba you will see very bad roads, but there are owners of honda products in these areas too and they survive the bad roads there.

For every 10 cars with that problem on the you are guaranteed that 7 of them are Honda. All those shouting maintenance are only crying more than the bereaved. Honda had a design flaw which they have corrected.

Keepmaster:
I just got a very fine Honda for Uber work oo. I no wan face ball joint palava oo

Honda for Uber?
You neva see anything

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Why not stay away from Honda cars?

It is not a rocket science but common sense.

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Just scrap the bloody Honda and go get yourself A 2017 AMG SUV benz, like me

double0seven:


Like seriously, you parked your car by the side of the road and went home to sleep?

Which side of the road did you park. I hope its the road inside your estste?

Its not by the highway.

Favbolu:
You are a big fool an Antichrist

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majamajic:


even the Honda company itself accepted the mistake, they corrected it from 2010 models up, apart from civic , every Honda product from 2001 including CR-V has that issue, though u might be one of very lucky few, even this Sunday on my way to songo OTA one woman with 2005 EOD was a victim just before ShopRite, I use Honda now too. I do avoid potholes alot and I don't turn full instead I do multiple sterling turn that's the only way am avoiding it. I use Honda and am aware it Happens , I see not less than 3 victims every week, all Honda !!

Infringement!!!

Can you proof the hogwash statement of yours?

Just buy OEM ball joint (new or toks) and forget about it.

Buy the ball joint that cost 1.5-5k, expect a pull out from the very day you put that ball joint.

The 2008 up accord has exactly the same set up with the 2006 down accord. No change from Honda. The ball joint is just bigger in size to accommodate for the heavier car. The 2003 to 2007 ball joint is also bigger than the 2002 down. This is also due to more weight on newer models.

OkaNaUbe:


I did publish a solution to Honda Ball Joint wahala. For those that care, read it
.

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Published where ??

Had my share of experience in 2014 with 2005 Honda accord. Almost ran into an eatery due to leg pull. Sold that car few months later and will never buy a Honda ever.

For those screaming maintenance and shit including the OP, you can go tell your sermon to the birds.
I can't even recommend a Honda to my enemy.
As per those talking about evil spirit even you must buy one please avoid 2008 accord, because it has similar issues too. I'm saying this not because I read it somewhere but have a colleague suffering same thing with his 2008 Honda accord.

AshipaEk0:

Published where ??

Check my signature.

Ekinematics:
Had my share of experience in 2014 with 2005 Honda accord. Almost ran into an eatery due to leg pull. Sold that car few months later and will never buy a Honda ever.

For those screaming maintenance and shit including the OP, you can go tell your sermon to the birds.
I can't even recommend a Honda to my enemy.
As per those talking about evil spirit even you must buy one please avoid 2008 accord, because it has similar issues too. I'm saying this not because I read it somewhere but have a colleague suffering same thing with his 2008 Honda accord.

I wish you could answer my questions honestly.

Have you ever changed your Honda ball joint? Did you buy it yourself or mechanic did on your behalf? Did your mechanic install a cotter pin or not?

Let me tell you what can pull out in a Honda leg

1. Lower arm ball joint (95% of pull outs)
2. Upper arm ball joint (hardly pulls out)
3. Tie rod end inner (5% of the pull out)
4. Tie rod end outter (hardly ever)

Before i give you my point, there are 3 dampers (bushing) on the lower arm, 2 on the upper arm, 1 on the stabilizer linkage.

Now, for a driver who has no idea of the mechanism of a car and cannot even know if he has a pending leg problem (like my mother), this person will drive till the leg pulls.

For the driver who is broke and cannot immediately afford to fix a problem with 1 of these, when a second issue joins, he will never know at what point the leg is in critical condition and needs urgent attention. A leg problem needs a critical and sensitive person to point but when the problem is more than 1, it becomes very difficult to trace without stripping the entire leg looking for fault. This person will also drive till it pulls.

To those who have money and will throw it a slight notice without giving an eye to quality of parts Installed, you will still get the pull.

So how does one stop it from happening, answer the questions I asked and you will hear the solution.

90% of the Honda on our roads came from the US, they dont have this problem. Honda has never recalled a vehicle for this problem (within my knowledge) and have recalled vehicles for issues far smaller than this serious mechanical failure. It doesn't happen in Canada, Japan, Dubai or other countries these cars are used except in Nigeria. The problem is local, has nothing to do with Honda as a brand and Honda company isnt aware of it.

If you dont reply with answers to questions asked, i will state here that you should continue to bad mouth Honda for my benefit. How? The more people find Honda as unreliable, the less its value and the more i buy Honda for less money but higher value. Do you understand the economics? Isnt this the main reason why a used Corolla is more expensive than a used Camry even though the true value of camry is higher.

Keepmaster:
I just got a very fine Honda for Uber work oo. I no wan face ball joint palava oo

This car is madddd... The fact that it's Europe makes it perfect. No ball joint wahala... Been driving my own as second car for years now.

Personally I think it's down to maintenance. I drive an accord 2006 Europe spec, it has only pulled once in 2 years now. Even that once, it has given me the warning sign for more than 2 weeks but I was broke so I didn't listen.
A few fixes also help, like tagging the ball joint and making sure the rubber filter is not torn.
Now I don't even wait for my ball joint and shaft to worn out, I just change them when I have money and I want to do my regular servicing.
Besides this issue, everyone will agree with me that Honda is a wonderful car to have. Fuel economical, parts not so expensive and all.

Watching and smiling.


I did publish a solution to Honda Ball Joint wahala. For those that care, read it
.


Honda Civic of any model from 1990 does not have this ball joint wahala.


Also, this has been corrected in Accord models from 2009 and above.

Hmmmm, boss are you super sure, this is awesome news

Roydonzy87:
Nice write up , this is one of the reason i gave out my first car Honda baby boy to my sister, it makes me hate Honda with passion because of this suspension... Thanks anyway for this information

Chai you like you sister, imagine a lady stranded on the road with a pull ball joint

adanny01:


Infringement!!!

Can you proof the hogwash statement of yours?

Just buy OEM ball joint (new or toks) and forget about it.

Buy the ball joint that cost 1.5-5k, expect a pull out from the very day you put that ball joint.

The 2008 up accord has exactly the same set up with the 2006 down accord. No change from Honda. The ball joint is just bigger in size to accommodate for the heavier car. The 2003 to 2007 ball joint is also bigger than the 2002 down. This is also due to more weight on newer models.

Bro are you saying let pull dry worry 2008 upward too.. And lastly what about the Honda Element

dicksonadams:


Bro are you saying let pull dry worry 2008 upward too.. And lastly what about the Honda Element

Am saying the set up is the same. Its called the "double wishbone suspension" and several if not all Accords use it. Even Toyota use it on heavier cars like Hilux, Prado etc

Technically, a ball joint can fail in any car. In the Accord, IMO the placing of the ball joint above the lower control arm causes more stress to the ball joint, the bolt shaft and the nut. So a thread failure is 10 times more likely to happen leading to k-leg. To prevent it, Honda decided to put a cotter pin to prevent the nut from falling out but for whatever stupid reason, Naija mechanics will remove the pin and throw away leaving Nigerians at the mercy of k-leg.

On an Accord, the weight of the car through the shocks rest on the nut with a safety pin, on a Camry the weight of the car through the shocks rests on the hub. That's why Camry's have more bearing failure but less ball joint failure.

The only thing is that ball joint failure is more catastrophic.

Lastly, do you know that Chinese ball joint doesn't even come with the hole for cotter pin? If you noticed, mechanics will buy new chinko ball joint but will not use the new nut. If the nut is substandard, the ball joint is surely substandard. The Nigerian factor is the reason for failures.

adanny01:


Am saying the set up is the same. Its called the "double wishbone suspension" and several if not all Accords use it. Even Toyota use it on heavier cars like Hilux, Prado etc

Technically, a ball joint can fail in any car. In the Accord, IMO the placing of the ball joint above the lower control arm causes more stress to the ball joint, the bolt shaft and the nut. So a thread failure is 10 times more likely to happen leading to k-leg. To prevent it, Honda decided to put a cotter pin to prevent the nut from falling out but for whatever stupid reason, Naija mechanics will remove the pin and throw away leaving Nigerians at the mercy of k-leg.

On an Accord, the weight of the car through the shocks rest on the nut with a safety pin, on a Camry the weight of the car through the shocks rests on the hub. That's why Camry's have more bearing failure but less ball joint failure.

The only thing is that ball joint failure is more catastrophic.

Lastly, do you know that Chinese ball joint doesn't even come with the hole for cotter pin? If you noticed, mechanics will buy new chinko ball joint but will not use the new nut. If the nut is substandard, the ball joint is surely substandard. The Nigerian factor is the reason for failures.

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adanny01:


Am saying the set up is the same. Its called the "double wishbone suspension" and several if not all Accords use it. Even Toyota use it on heavier cars like Hilux, Prado etc

Technically, a ball joint can fail in any car. In the Accord, IMO the placing of the ball joint above the lower control arm causes more stress to the ball joint, the bolt shaft and the nut. So a thread failure is 10 times more likely to happen leading to k-leg. To prevent it, Honda decided to put a cotter pin to prevent the nut from falling out but for whatever stupid reason, Naija mechanics will remove the pin and throw away leaving Nigerians at the mercy of k-leg.

On an Accord, the weight of the car through the shocks rest on the nut with a safety pin, on a Camry the weight of the car through the shocks rests on the hub. That's why Camry's have more bearing failure but less ball joint failure.

The only thing is that ball joint failure is more catastrophic.

Lastly, do you know that Chinese ball joint doesn't even come with the hole for cotter pin? If you noticed, mechanics will buy new chinko ball joint but will not use the new nut. If the nut is substandard, the ball joint is surely substandard. The Nigerian factor is the reason for failures.

Thanks boss, awesome post, what if I go for Honda crv or Honda element am I safe from this problem? I love Honda and hate Toyota

Babadee1900:
So many misinformed people on this thread. China Knockoff parts will show una pepper. Buy Genuine Honda OEM part or buy Grade one Tokunbo part y’all won’t listen. Be buying #1500 Ball joints and expect it not to pull off on the road.

Pls where can one get this OEM part, I have been hearing of it. Where can one buy it, pls

staneless:


Pls where can one get this OEM part, I have been hearing of it. Where can one buy it, pls

OEM simply means original equipment manufacturers. You can buy from Amazon EBay RockAutos etc or locally from trusted sellers like Radautoworks and the likes.

Mind you the parts can be pricey but you will get the value for money spent.

Babadee1900:
OEM simply means original equipment manufacturers. You can buy from Amazon EBay RockAutos etc or locally from trusted sellers like Radautoworks and the likes.

Mind you the parts can be pricey but you will get the value for money spent.

Thank you very much. I have been looking for where to buy original ball joints for my Honda accord (discussion continue). I think I will go with this Radautoworks here in Lagos Nigeria.