₦airaland Forum

Blueelf:
I doubt Rohr would call Nwakaeme or even Simy...Rohr likes them young and fresh

andrewbaba44:
Omeruo won’t go down as I have already said earlier before

Eibar levante and co should not hard him to play for

Awaziem is a Porto player so I hope for a new loan first division club in Europe top 5 leagues or a permanent selling

komekn:
By now you should have updated your knowledge just by being here. You are well operating on a DOS system when we have moved to Windows 10 and beyond.

Even Lukaku who you would term a typical number 9 played wing at Manchester United.

We talk about forward players now not just strikers, why because they interchange with positions.

To quote you verbatim ;

Bournemouth set to be relegated, Solanke has blood on his hands, he's supposed to be their key source of goals but he failed them with just a paltry 2 goals to his nam

My point was to educate you that Solanke was never meant to be thier number one striker. So your proposition is simply not true, you lack knowledge and understanding.

In all the time you have been here you have not learned much. Sad

Olulong:
I was referring to Zubby. Zubby is just 23 officially and he's a midfielder, a position where we lack much personnel. He playing in the UCL and Azeez in the Europa league will be good for us

komekn:
The reality is that even with all his Nigerian caps Omeruo is still a lowly rated defender in lowly rated club at the bottom end of a highly rated league.

Awaziem played a whole season in French league the only accolade he got was to go to Turkey. Not one better club in France looked at him and put in a substantive offer even Nantes.

Which club that is in La Liga will go to Turkish league to get defenders. That tells you where the club is.

All these players need to up thier game or give way for better defenders to take thier place. If Indeed we have any.

As much as l didn't rate Semi Ajayi he had gone from a kick and rush team at Rotherham to playing on the deck good quality technical football and has excelled. All things being equal he will be in the EPL next season. Which will be another test for him to overcome. This makes you better by reaching higher.

This is a measure of quality and ability how quickly can you adapt and claim position in a different setting.

Many players can be outstanding playing in a particular style, format and or structure. Once they leave that setting then we begin to see the gaps in thier ability and or how quickly they can learn or not learn.

chrisooblog:
congrats to Azubuike 'xavi/iniesta' okechukwu

first of many to come

komekn:
Congratulations for where they are and where they have come from.

But this Turkish league is very low quality when we talk about quality leagues. And it cannot be a benchmark for attainment and or even consideration for the SE. It's rated below the top 10 in Europe.

It's a retirement league for players no longer able to meet the standards of better quality and more competitive leagues.

They need to do a lot more.

TheSuperNerd:
Okay now uhmmm... I knew I would make time to return to this so let me just drop this quickly.


✔European and International football:

Internationally, my Overachievers list will have Greece. Greece have won the Euros. Stronger football nations like England and Belgium haven't won it yet. I think they are the biggest overachiever in European football.

Another overachiever internationally is Korea Republic. They have reached the World Cup Semifinals and finished 4th in 2002. Something not even the finest African teams in history have achieved. The likes of Nigeria's Golden Generation of 1994 couldn't... Cameroun's Golden Generations of the 80s and 2000s couldn't. Korea is another overachiever.

I don't rate Germany as an Overachiever. They have always boasted real talents down the years and matched that with success on the European and International fronts. Germany is truly among the world class Football nations of all time.





Now for Underachiever, we have Holland without question. So good they have been across different generations of talents but are yet to stamp their authority internationally at a World Cup. Three WC final losses in 1974, 1978 and 2010 have seen them really suffer the chance of being regarded among the truly Elite Nations of Football.

Even at France 98, they were so good but still fell short in the Semis against Brazil. One of the French players from '98 once said something like, "If Holland had made it to the final against us, I'm not so sure we would have won it. We preferred Brazil". That's just how good the Netherlands were as they have always been but they just never hit that jackpot. Yes, they did win the Euros in 1988 but that is still so little for a nation so mightily blessed with some or several of the finest ballers of every generation.


Another football nation worthy of the Underachievers tag is uhmmm.... **Still thinking** (Forgive me, Spain has since left the Underachievers WhatsApp group chat .. so to find replacement come hard).
But I would say England on the European front only. Internationally, well... They have the World cup and did well in the last edition too.






✔African football

Coming to the African football scenes, yes, Senegal is Africa's no.1 underachiever. It's very obvious why. No need to say much as some of you have already done so.

Now, I don't know if Morocco should be counted as one because they conquered the continent in 1976. In 2004, they came close again but fell to Tunisia. Perhaps it is their current results not matching the quality of their present Generation of super talents (Hakimi, Ziyech, Mazraoui, etc) that will tempt us into adding them to the underachievers list.

Another Underachiever on the African continent for me again is Mali. Blessed with superb talents almost every nations cup year. Produced Salif Keita back in the late 60s and the 70s. Salif Keita was the first African Player of the year award winner. That guy ruled France and even made the Euros XI that faced the South American XI back in 1973. He scored in that game that ended 4-4 and played alongside Johann Cruyff and Eusebio in that encounter. He could only lead Mali to 2nd place at the 1972 Afcon.

Mali after the great Keita, had others like another Keita called Seydou Keita, then Mohammadu Diarra who played for Real Madrid at one time. They also produced Frederic Kanoute, the Sevilla legend.

Mali always have ballers! Even right now they have some very exciting players like Haidara at RB Leipzig, Sammasekou at Hoffenheim and so on... Yet they haven't made a mark continentally at senior level. We saw their beautiful football at the last Afcon in the group stages. Scoring world class goals and bossing teams... But they got the Round of 16 and became Chickens.

They are Big underachievers in the African continent for me. Second only to Senegal.



For Overachievers, I would mention Tunisia. They aren't always the most talented side or "side with the biggest or known names" at the Afcon but they are always normally tactically disciplined almost to a fault. Tunisia have had the likes of Radhi Jaidi, Francileudo Dos Santos and co but to be honest, they are not exactly big names but they are a solid unit.
Never among the teams you call the outright favorites and not always among the teams you mention as having the "Main Stars to Watch" but they have achieved Afcon success in 2004 and even finished FOURTH at the last Afcon. Also, how they have made it to the World Cup more times than Egypt is baffling. Egypt have always had the better footballers but Tunisia just seems more team driven and tactically disciplined enough to get the job done.


Cameroun as an Overachiever won't count for me in Africa. If I list Cameroun's big names of the 80s and 2000s, una fit run. Tunisia sef no fit stand alongside Cameroun for notable names in African football.

I could say more but this will do. My submission. Gracias.

komekn:
Congratulations for where they are and where they have come from.

But this Turkish league is very low quality when we talk about quality leagues. And it cannot be a benchmark for attainment and or even consideration for the SE. It's rated below the top 10 in Europe.

It's a retirement league for players no longer able to meet the standards of better quality and more competitive leagues.

They need to do a lot more.

komekn:
Congratulations for where they are and where they have come from.

But this Turkish league is very low quality when we talk about quality leagues. And it cannot be a benchmark for attainment and or even consideration for the SE. It's rated below the top 10 in Europe.

It's a retirement league for players no longer able to meet the standards of better quality and more competitive leagues.

They need to do a lot more.

komekn:
By now you should have updated your knowledge just by being here. You are well operating on a DOS system when we have moved to Windows 10 and beyond.

Even Lukaku who you would term a typical number 9 played wing at Manchester United.

We talk about forward players now not just strikers, why because they interchange with positions.

To quote you verbatim ;

Bournemouth set to be relegated, Solanke has blood on his hands, he's supposed to be their key source of goals but he failed them with just a paltry 2 goals to his nam

My point was to educate you that Solanke was never meant to be thier number one striker. So your proposition is simply not true, you lack knowledge and understanding.

In all the time you have been here you have not learned much. Sad

Danielnino00:
You keep lying about Awazeim..

How many times will they tell you that Porto rejected Nantes offer to sign Awazeim permanently?
He was outstanding when he played with Nantes and they wanted to sign him permanently..Porto wanted more money..

Subzero047:
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Can you just stop all this nonsense, are you mad?

Don’t you have other things to do?

chrisooblog:
yes Turkish league is lower in comparison to other European leagues but good players can still come out of there. any good developing player who is worth his salt and happens to be there should not waste his productive years in that league

komekn:
Congratulations for where they are and where they have come from.

But this Turkish league is very low quality when we talk about quality leagues. And it cannot be a benchmark for attainment and or even consideration for the SE. It's rated below the top 10 in Europe.

It's a retirement league for players no longer able to meet the standards of better quality and more competitive leagues.

They need to do a lot more.

Olulong:
Regardless he is a waste man and he has failed. A 20 million pound striker should be scoring goals .Stop your double standards. You use one standard for Iheanacho and you use another for Solanke

komekn:
The reality is that even with all his Nigerian caps Omeruo is still a lowly rated defender in lowly rated club at the bottom end of a highly rated league.

Awaziem played a whole season in French league the only accolade he got was to go to Turkey. Not one better club in France looked at him and put in a substantive offer even Nantes.

Which club that is in La Liga will go to Turkish league to get defenders. That tells you where the club is.

All these players need to up thier game or give way for better defenders to take thier place. If Indeed we have any.

As much as l didn't rate Semi Ajayi he had gone from a kick and rush team at Rotherham to playing on the deck good quality technical football and has excelled. All things being equal he will be in the EPL next season. Which will be another test for him to overcome. This makes you better by reaching higher.

This is a measure of quality and ability how quickly can you adapt and claim position in a different setting.

Many players can be outstanding playing in a particular style, format and or structure. Once they leave that setting then we begin to see the gaps in thier ability and or how quickly they can learn or not learn.

Blueelf:
Don't really follow the guy's career but is he(Zubby) a first team regular?

Blueelf:
Don't really follow the guy's career but is he(Zubby) a first team regular?

Edopesin:
[center]West Ham Step Up Eze Chase[/center]


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West Ham manager David Moyes stepped up his transfer plans this weekend with two scouting trips.

The Hammers boss was at the Valley on Saturday lunchtime watching Charlton’s 2-2 draw with Wigan, where West Ham loanee Josh Cullen played 90 minutes and Moyes got a look at highly rated Wigan left-back Antonee Robinson.


Robinson is expected to move this summer having seen a £10million move to AC Milan fall through in January.


Following his trip to south London, Moyes headed west to Loftus Road for QPR’s 4-3 win over Millwall. West Ham are one of many clubs interested in forward Eberechi Eze and Moyes continued to keep a close eye on full-back Ryan Manning. Both scored in the London derby.


Moyes is keen to press ahead with his plans to bring young, hungry players into the club over the summer after the Hammers all but secured their Premier League status for another year by beating Watford on Friday evening.


The Scot has not been afraid to dip into the Championship for new signings before, with Jarrod Bowen impressing in the first team following his January move from Hull City.

CompleteSports

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West Ham will be a very good place for him

andrewbaba44:
Smiles

Calm down baba

Wetin omeruo and awaziem do you ?

komekn:
What are lies Intentional misrepresentation of facts an act of deception.

Is Awaziem a quality outstanding defender❓ l said he is not, he is below average defender.

He has not played 10 more than games for Porto since he signed in 2014. He is essentially a business transaction for the club.

The value that is placed on a players is reflected in the price. Porto rejected an offer of how much Porto is a selling club always looking to market players and sell. Essentially Nantes offered what they felt he was worth and Porto rejected it.

If a player is outstanding he will be in demand by several clubs. For example Osimhen. Is it not the same league they played in.

You are telling lies and misrepresentating the situation.

komekn:
Congratulations for where they are and where they have come from.

But this Turkish league is very low quality when we talk about quality leagues. And it cannot be a benchmark for attainment and or even consideration for the SE. It's rated below the top 10 in Europe.

It's a retirement league for players no longer able to meet the standards of better quality and more competitive leagues.

They need to do a lot more.

Truidstar:
Oga, don't mind these guys jare. They mostly use sentiments to hype. This same Zubby is a confirmed bench warmer. They always say "Zubby is balling in midfield" when in reality he is playing rubbish. He is not better than what we have presently. He played the last olympic qualifier tournament and did not make an impact.

andrewbaba44:
Smiles

Calm down baba

Wetin omeruo and awaziem do you ?

Danielnino00:
Since the AFCON,he has developed some kind of dislike for Awaziem...

Don't be surprised if it has to do with the fact that Awaziem was selected ahead of his innit boy Aina at RB...

komekn:
Should l be hailing them for doing nothing or ax quality top class defenders, that would be telling lies.

I am just saying things as they are, that's all.

Am I being too harsh or candid ❓ or some may allege biased and prejudiced.

komekn:
I expect to see Jedi at Everton he was a youth player then and Moyes knows him well very well.

His move to Achieve Milan fell through at the last minute for reasons not put in the public domain.

Olulong:
No one has said he'll bench Ndidi or Etebo or Aribo. We are simply talking of him adding numbers to our midfield in case of injuries

komekn:
What are lies Intentional misrepresentation of facts an act of deception.

Is Awaziem a quality outstanding defender❓ l said he is not, he is below average defender.

He has not played 10 more than games for Porto since he signed in 2014. He is essentially a business transaction for the club.

The value that is placed on a players is reflected in the price. Porto rejected an offer of how much Porto is a selling club always looking to market players and sell. Essentially Nantes offered what they felt he was worth and Porto rejected it.

If a player is outstanding he will be in demand by several clubs. For example Osimhen. Is it not the same league they played in.

You are telling lies and misrepresentating the situation.

chrisooblog:
yes Turkish league is lower in comparison to other European leagues but good players can still come out of there. any good developing player who is worth his salt and happens to be there should not waste his productive years in that league