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| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by Acehart: 7:57am On Jul 20, 2020 |
petra1:I’m not built for arguments. You slight me by calling me a ‘tithe eater’. You should provide a verse that shows Jacob paid the tithe to God. You should ask this too: “why did he build another altar? What happened to the first one? At the first instance, did God tell him to build the first altar and make a vow?” When one vows, yes! He must pay to the Lord. Here is the hallmark of discouragement in the scriptures: When you make a vow to God, do not be late in paying it; for He takes no delight in fools. Pay what you vow! It is better that you should not vow than that you should vow and not pay. From Jacob’s experience to Jephtha’s to Solomon’s, we are discouraged from making vows because of our human nature. The attitude in maturity we find in Grace is: “So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy”. God, in discouraging vows says one place: For if there be first a willing mind, it is accepted according to that a man hath, and not according to that he hath not.; in another place He says: Instead, you ought to say, “If the Lord wills, we will live and also do this or that. We are not to follow the ways of Jacob but the way of Christ; and to humbly accept that the fragility of flesh and our inability to control the future are sufficient reasons to not make vows. |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by petra1(op): 11:25am On Jul 20, 2020 |
Acehart:No I wasn’t talking about you but the people you quoted . They are ready to change scriptures to suit the greed.They went as far as insulting Abraham tithe saying Abraham did not give tithe to God that it was just a tax to government And no spirituality about it . They forgot Jacob tithe to God . You should provide a verse that shows Jacob paid the tithe to God. You should ask this too: “why did he build another altar? What happened to the first one? At the first instance, did God tell him to build the first altar and make a vow?”It’s amazing when we ask funny questions like this . 30years have passed between his vow and when God reminded him . The fact that God reminded him of his tithe should have been enough . Either he built a new one or a used one should not be a case . What is altar na . Is it a building ? It’s just arrangement of stones . When one vows, yes! He must pay to the Lord. Here is the hallmark of discouragement in the scriptures: When you make a vow to God, do not be late in paying it; for He takes no delight in fools. Pay what you vow! It is better that you should not vow than that you should vow and not payYes that’s true . God was not against vows . He is against foolish vows From Jacob’s experience to Jephtha’s to Solomon’s, we are discouraged from making vows because of our human nature.Paul had a vow . Vows are demonstrations of faith. God honors vows |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by Acehart: 11:35am On Jul 20, 2020*. Modified: 11:55am On Jul 20, 2020 |
petra1:Hi, where did God remind Jacob of his tithe? What was Paul’s vow? Is it the temporary Nazarite vow, where he shaved his hair, for peace sake, you are referring to? Incredible! Why do you teach tithes but avoid the Nazarite doctrine; which is greater? It’s also strange you avoided the scriptures that expressly discourages vows. I am not writing to convince you, but a man who will follow God should know the whole counsel of God concerning every matter - this you have jettisoned. If you are eager to give, God will accept your gift on the basis of what you have to give, not on what you don't have 2 Cor. 8:12 |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by Gombs(m): 12:05pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
OkCornel:The non Jewish folks became part of the promise God made to Abraham by being born again. Same with other Jews who got born again! if you said tithe was never money, was offering ever money? why ae your offerings money but tithes can't be? |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by OkCornel(m): 12:45pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
Gombs:My questions are very simple, 1) can you bring examples of non-Jewish believers in the early church that practiced tithing? Acts 15 should really clarify a lot here. 2) Refer to my first post on this thread on how God specifically requested MONEY be raised to finance the maintenance of the temple through temple tax (Exodus 30 v 13-16). Then also look through God’s requirement for tithing (Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29), and then tell us why it changed from crops and livestock from the promised land as God requested specifically to money tithevangelists are preaching today. |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by petra1(op): 12:56pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
Acehart:Genesis 28:22 And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee. Genesis 31:13 I am the God of Bethel, where thou anointedst the pillar, and where thou vowedst a vow unto me: now arise, get thee out from this land, and return unto the land of thy kindred. Genesis 35:1 And God said unto Jacob, Arise, go up to Bethel, and dwell there: and make there an altar unto God, that appeared unto thee when thou fleddest from the face of Esau thy brother. What was Paul’s vow? Is it the temporary Nazarite vow, where he shaved his hair, for peace sakeIt doesn’t matter . The point is that Making of vows Is a valid principle . “If I Can get married this year, I will buY bus for church “. Vow is vow It’s a principle . , Why do you teach tithes but avoid the Nazarite doctrine; which is greater?Every principle stands on its own merit . I’m not advocating one against the other It’s also strange you avoided the scriptures that expressly discourages vows.The scripture never discouraged vows . It discourages foolish vows . The issue about vows is to pay it . God always demand the payment . He only says not Make vows you won’t keep .If you’re not going to honor a vow better not make the vow. Deuteronomy 23:21 (KJV) 21 When thou shalt vow a vow unto the LORD thy God, thou shalt not slack to pay it: for the LORD thy God will surely require it of thee; and it would be sin in thee. I am not writing to convince you, but a man who will follow God should know the whole counsel of God concerning every matter - this you have jettisoned.It’s wrong accusation If you are eager to give, God will accept your gift on the basis of what you have to give, not on what you don't have 2 Cor. 8:12Do you know the principle behind the verse you quoted ? are you aware the Corinthians vowed ? They made a pledge to give and they did not fulfill it . Read it in context |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by OkCornel(m): 12:57pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
petra1:Lol, so eating one's tithe is greed? Interesting Deuteronomy 14 v 22 - 26; 22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year. 23 And thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God always. 24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the Lord thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the Lord thy God hath blessed thee: 25 Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the Lord thy God shall choose: 26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the Lord thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household, 27 And the Levite that is within thy gates; thou shalt not forsake him; for he hath no part nor inheritance with thee. |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by petra1(op): 12:58pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
Gombs:Same thing I’ve been asking , you can’t preach offering , alms ,freewill and jettison tithe |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by OkCornel(m): 1:03pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
Interesting how Abram's one-off tithe from warspoils only should serve as a basis for non-Jewish believers to part with their monthly monetary earnings hmm? Funny how Jacob's vow to tithe also serves as a basis for non-Jewish believers to part with their monthly monetary earnings... But when we x-ray the Mosaic law which makes it mandatory for Jewish farmers to tithe only agro-commodities (not money), pro-tithers begin to dance all about... very hilarious Pro-tithers say financial prosperity is contingent on tithing... yeah right, they should also explain to us how Job (a non-Jew resident in the land of Uz) was also prosperous hmmm? |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by petra1(op): 1:03pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
OkCornel:You know what I’m talking about . The tithe to God is untouchable it is given as offering in Gods house . How ever God made allowance For them to have a feast with another 10% and to share another 10% with those in need . Now people want to eat 100% and quoting Deuteronomy to justify eating God’s tithe |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by OkCornel(m): 1:04pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
petra1:When God laid out the law of mandatory tithing for the Jews, money existed yeah? why wasn't that asked for but agro-produce instead? |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by OkCornel(m): 1:06pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
petra1:Did you miss out Deuteronomy 14 v 22 hmmm? Pay attention to the bolded part 22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year. |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by petra1(op): 1:08pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
OkCornel:They were a nation of farmers so by default they bring of their produce in offering or tithe . However God still gave them the option to pay cash in place of unclean animals or perishables crops such as vegetables . They give money equivalent of such . The Bible calls it redemption |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by OkCornel(m): 1:08pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
Abeg o, someone should explain how Job was prosperous without tithing... Or whether Abraham was a pauper before he tithed out of warspoils to Melchizedek and returned the remaining 90% to the rightful owners |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by Gombs(m): 1:10pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
OkCornel:How could they? Who started tithing and whose descendants were tithing commanded to? 2) Refer to my first post on this thread on how God specifically requested MONEY be raised to finance the maintenance of the temple through temple tax (Exodus 30 v 13-16). Then also look through God’s requirement for tithing (Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29), and then tell us why it changed from crops and livestock from the promised land as God requested specifically to money tithevangelists are preaching today.I saw these...now, answer mine. Was offerings initially money? Why's monetary tithing you issue? ![]() |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by petra1(op): 1:15pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
OkCornel:I don’t know what you’re driving at. Except you’re not getting my point .let me make my stand clearer with scriptures . Under the law there were 2 additional tithes a apart from the tithe to God . The 2 additional tithe did not take the place of God’s tithe . Look at the 3 structures below TITHE TO THE LORD Leviticus 27:30 And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto]the Lord THE TITHE OF THE FEAST (Deut. 14:22-27). Deuteronomy 14:22-23 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year. And thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God always. TITHE FOR THE POOR Deuteronomy 14:28-29 At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates: And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest. As much as we are not tithing based on the law. This is just to clarify your misunderstanding of the Bible . We tithe base on Faith and covenant of God with Abrahamic Who is our father of faith |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by OkCornel(m): 1:15pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
Gombs:Simple and short, monetary tithing is inconsistent with God's requirement of tithing in the scriptures. God never demanded money as tithe in the scriptures, so who then is asking for money as tithe in God's name? ![]() |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by OkCornel(m): 1:20pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
petra1:Remind me again, apart from warspoils...what else did Abraham tithe? Also, could you please expand more on this covenant Abraham had with God that requires believers to tithe today? I'm also curious as to why we can't get one example of a non-Jewish believer that practiced this tithing in the early church? Do we have any records of Job (a non-Jew) tithing before he was blessed by God? |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by MightySparrow: 1:20pm On Jul 20, 2020*. Modified: 3:11pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
jmoore:Did tithe like circumaision begin with the Law or before? |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by Kobojunkie: 1:24pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
petra1:Showing me what Paul says does not show me what God said. Show me where God Himself said to Abraham something like, "Through your descendants, i willl make you father to all Nations" , then you can convince me of Paul's words. Also, notice that we are no longer even disputing your MOGs claim about tithing any longer since we have seen that nowhere else in the Bible is the tithing law defined except for when God Himself defined it in the Old covenant? |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by petra1(op): 1:26pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
OkCornel:It doesn’t matter . How many times did Abraham pray to God . All that matter is that prayer is a principle . They don’t have daily diary . Let’s deal with principle not pettty details. |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by Kobojunkie: 1:26pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
MightySparrow:Circumcision was revealed during the Law as again. You have to read that book....it is a great story to read. The first 5 books of your bible bring it all together in a neat and well told package. Read it as if reading a Novel and see. |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by Kobojunkie: 1:30pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
petra1:I am a follower of Jesus Christ, not His disciples, so certainly not Paul. Where is it that God in fact makea this promise that is alluded to in Paul's letter to the Galatians 3vs 10-22. Maybe we should start there instead with the word of God. |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by OkCornel(m): 1:32pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
petra1:Lol, if indeed Abram tithed more than once because he never kept a daily diary according to you, I still wonder why thousands of years after that act, the book of Hebrew made reference to that tithe of warspoils Abram did to Melchizedek...and as complete as the word of God is, never made any reference to any other "tithing" Abram did outside of that... As a "principle" I wonder why this one-off tithe performed by Abram is now mixed alongside the regular tithing practiced under the Mosaic Law (which gentiles were never under to start with)...hmmm? I'm also curious as to why we can't get one example of a non-Jewish believer (who are also seeds of Abraham) that practiced this tithing in the early church? And erm, Job (a non- Jew) was prosperous without any record of him tithing...how can we explain this? |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by Gombs(m): 2:21pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
OkCornel:By your logic, How about offerings? |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by OkCornel(m): 2:27pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
Gombs:Another kettle of fish entirely. Can you show us where monetary “offerings” were practiced in the early church? So we can separate man-made doctrine from what is scriptural. Bottom line, God’s requirement of tithe was never money. If you disagree please bring scriptural evidences to rebutt it |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by Kobojunkie: 2:34pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
Gombs:how? Where jews not already included in God's blessings to Abraham and His "descendants"? Gombs:God's laws for tithing were separate so why do attempt here to confuse the two? |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by MightySparrow: 2:58pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:John 7: 22 |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by petra1(op): 2:58pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
OkCornel:Firstly Abraham was the vessel God chose bring about salvation for man kind . And God entrusted Him with his oracle which he taught his family . Genesis 18:19 (AMPC) 19 For I have known (chosen, acknowledged) him [as My own], so that he may teach and command his children and the sons of his house after him to keep the way of the Lord and to do what is just and righteous, so that the Lord may bring Abraham what He has promised him. You can now know how Jacob his grandson got to know about tithing . That’s by the way . We are the seed If Abraham . Abraham did not tithe under the law neither did he tithe to be justified . He is the father of faith “ who’s faith we follow” his life was by faith . So you see from the day of Abraham tithing has been instituted on the earth along with offering , worship , prayer in the worship of God . Christians are Abraham seed I'm also curious as to why we can't get one example of a non-Jewish believer that practiced this tithing in the early church?Maybe you can dig into other historic materials like writings of Josephus etc Do we have any records of Job (a non-Jew) tithing before he was blessed by God?Let’s know your finding . |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by Kobojunkie: 3:11pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
MightySparrow:the story of circumcision begins with Abraham but was forgotten during Israel's of slavery in Egypt. But was reinstated as the seal of the old Covenant . |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by UgoFly: 3:31pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
petra1:TITHING AS REGARDS Malachi.3: 8-10 First to understand the Bible & to interpret & apply it for today's Christians we must know the DIFFERENCES Btw OLD & NEW TESTAMENT We must know dat d Bible is divided into 3 dispensations The Patriarchal, The Mosiac & The Christian Dispensations. We must also know what's written for the Jews, Gentiles & the Church. 1. The Patriarchal age is the age of the fathers frm Abraham to Moses. 2. The Mosaic age is from Moses to Christ 3. The Christian age is from Christ's death on the cross to the His second coming God dealt with the people in a very peculiar ways e.g. in the Patriarchal age there was no 10 commandments, in Mosaic age God gave them 10 Commandments & ceremonial laws to be obeyed. The Christian age brought in Grace & Truth The law was our school master to bring us into CHRIST but now faith has come through Christ we are no longer under the school master. (Gal. 3:22-24). We're not justified by law (Gal.5:4). Christ is the end of the law. (Rom.10:1-4). If we're to practice the Old Testament doctrine together with the New Testament there will be lots of confusion as we will be required according to Leviticus 20 to stone to death fornicators, adulterers, witches, wizards, stoning to death a rebellious son Deuteronomy (21:18-21), practice several burnt offerings & sin offerings of different kinds, stone to death those who work Saturday (Sabbath day). (Numbers 15:32-36). If a girl loses her virginity she must be stoned to death to death also (Deut 22:13-21) Women during their monthly period will be forbidden to come to church & so many more old testament practices. But we know that Christ have nailed all these practices & laws to the cross ( Col. 2:14-16, Rom.10:4) WHAT IS TITHE? Tithes is a practice of paying "one- tenth" of one's income or possession according to the Old Testament ORIGIN OF TITHES. The first time the word tithe ever appeared in the Bible is in the Book of Genesis where Abraham paid tithes to Melchizedek the priest of Salem. Note that Abraham paid tithes as a reciprocal gestures in appreciation/ response to Melchizedek giving food & wine to Abraham's servants on his way back from war. (Gen.14:8, 18-20). Abraham did not pay tithes to Melchizedek from his personal possessions but from spoils of war that he brought back when he went to rescue Lot his brother. (Gen. 14: 21-2 There was no law compelling Abraham to pay tithes to Melchizedek, he did it freely Abraham DID NOT PAY TITHES AS A CONTINUOUS MONTHLY OR YEARLY RITUAL, but it was a one-time event. TITHES BECOMES LAW IN ISRAEL. Tithes became a law in the land of Israel when the children of Israel got to the Promised Land of Cannan. God divided the land to eleven out of the twelve tribes of Israel. But to the tribe of of Levi God didn't give any portion of land, rather God gave them the tithes of which rightly belong to God, because of the services he gave them to perform in the Temple of Tabernacle (Lev. 27:30, Numb. 18:20-24) e.g the tribe of Judah where Christ came from are tithe payers, because they collected their own share of the land of Cannan & God Commanded them to pay to their brother Levi- Aaron & his descendants (Jos.15:1-5, Neh.13:12). WHOM DID GOD COMMAND TO PAY TITHES & TO WHOM? God told all the Nations of Israel to pay Tithes from the land he gave Num. 18:20-21). (Mal. 1:1-2, 3:7-12). We must understand that the laws of the Old Covenant & the laws of TITHES in particular wasn't given to any other tribe in the world but to Israel as a Nation (Deut. 5:1-3) The Israelites were Commanded to pay tithe to the tribe of Levi only No other tribe in the whole world including Jesus Christ & Judah his tribe has any scriptural right to collect tithes ( Heb. 7:5, 13), rather Judah the tribe Jesus came from were tithes payers & not tithes collectors (Neh. 13:12) FROM WHAT PROCEEDS DID GOD COMMANDS THAT TITHES BE PAID?. Many Pastors who are tithes collectors says tithes must be paid from salaries & business profits but the Bible clearly states where tithes proceeds are to be paid. Tithes were commanded to be paid from FARM PRODUCE of the Israelites be it ANIMALS or CROPS ( Deut. 14:22 Lev. 27:30-31). In which case God has already provided them farm lands (Jos.15:1-3). So there's no excuse for any Israelite saying "I can't pay Tithes" or "I don't hv a land to farm". WAS TITHE TO BE PAID WITH MONEY OR FARM PRODUCE ONLY?. God Commanded that money shouldn't be used for tithes payment but FARM PRODUCE ONLY. This is stated clearly & expressly. (Deut. 14:22-26). God knows that money was a good medium of exchange but commanded that if all you have to to bring your tithes(FARM PRODUCE) from a far distance to where God has put his name then you Have to sell the farm product for money but when you get to d place you have to turn the money into farm produce again & eat before the Lord (Deut.14:22-26) HOW MANY TYPES OF TITHES ARE THERE? God actually gave commandments to Israel to pay specific tithe for specific purposes 1. Annual or yearly tithe to be given to take care of the Levites- Aaron & other priests officiating in the Tabernacle (Num. 18:20-24) 2. Tithes every 3 years to be given for the general populace of Levites, widows, orphans, strangers & the poor (Deut. 14:22-29). 3. The priests were also commanded by God to pay tithe of tithes to God, that is the priests are to pay tithes to God from the tithes the Israelites have paid to them. (Num. 18:26-29). Note the tithes which the priests will give to God must be offered as "HEAVE OFFERING" not money offering. DOES THE BIBLE COMMANDS TODAY'S CHRISTIANS TO PAY TITHES?. We can clearly see from the Bible that Judaism is different from Christianity. The New Covenant is superior & better than the Old Covenant with DOES THE BIBLE COMMANDS TODAY'S CHRISTIANS TO PAY TITHES?. We can clearly see from the Bible that Judaism is different from Christianity. The New Covenant is superior & better than the Old Covenant with better promises. Heb. 8: 6-7, 2 Cor. 3:6-16). Bible says if the Old Covenant was perfect enough there wouldn't have been need for the New Covenant.(Heb. 8: 7-13). The Old Testament & all it stands for were mere SHADOW of things to come but the New Testament is the real image. Heb.(10:1). Tithes & all Old Testament Practices & Doctrines have been abolished (Heb. 8:13) (Heb.10:9) (2 Cor. 3:6-16) (Col. 2 : 14-17). (Heb. 8: 7-13). The Old Testament & all it stands for were mere SHADOW of things to come but the New Testament is the real image. Heb.(10:1). Tithes & all Old Testament Practices & Doctrines have been abolished (Heb. 8:13) (Heb.10:9) (2 Cor. 3:6-16) (Col. 2 : 14-17). Christians are not commanded to pay tithes today but to give a free will offerings as they are blessed. No levying of any kind. Give what you have. BUT JESUS SAID HE DID NOT COME TO DESTROY THE LAW & THE PROPHETS. This statement must be well understood not taken in isolation & out of context. Luke clarifies this issue better. (Lk.24: 45-49). In effect Jesus was not saying that he came to destroy nor re-establish the law but to "FULFILL" all that were written about him in the law of Moses, in the Prophets & in the Psalm. And Jesus Indeed has fulfilled all the prophecies concerning him, including his birth, death, burial, resurrection & ascension as prophesied. Again in Matt. 23:23 Jesus rebuked the Scribes & Pharisees & he said woe unto them & called them hypocrites for over-emphasizing the payment of tithes at the expense of the weighter matters of the law: mercy, judgement & righteousness. Jesus was NOT in this instance recommending tithe payment for his disciples & the New Testament Christians He was rightly addressing the Jews who were given the law he wouldn't have said woe & called his disciples hypocrites. At that time Christ will or Testament wasn't yet in full force. Christ will & Testament became fully in force & enforceable after his death on the cross because there can be no testament except the testator dies. Wills can only be enforceable after he who wrote the wills dies. (Heb. 9:15-23). So at Christ's death on the cross the law of tithe & other Old Testament practices ceased to be effective. In effect CHRIST became the only standard of faith for Christians today & no longer the Old Testament. (2 Cor. 3:6-14) |
| Re: Pastor Adeboye Lays Tithe Argument To Rest by MightySparrow: 3:32pm On Jul 20, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:Tithe? |
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