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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AbdulSleeky: 7:00pm On Jul 23, 2020
SonofLincoln:
You obviously don't know what you are talking about. Comparing Britain to US is like comparing a goat to an elephant. Yes, trump is an albatross on America and that's why we that loves America will send him away in Nov. Compare all the economic indices of U S to Britain and see that the difference is clear. Let's start from GDP ?. Your Britain can't even match up with Germany in Europe. Germany is the economic engine of Europe not Britain.
The British pound is stronger than the dollar. grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AbdulSleeky: 7:03pm On Jul 23, 2020
CoronaVirusRelo:
But it has the largest economy and remains the world power.

Any other argument is by the way. America leads and others follow. It's no news.
The largest economy on debt.

If I borrow 2 million dollars, my bank account will look big but the reality is that I'm a debtor.


Go and read. America is not even in the top 5 developed countries

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by SonofLincoln: 7:06pm On Jul 23, 2020
AbdulSleeky:
The British pound is stronger than the dollar. grin
Are you illiterate or what. California and Texas probably have bigger GDP than your Britain.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by donjazet(m):
SonofLincoln:
You obviously don't know what you are talking about. Comparing Britain to US is like comparing a goat to an elephant. Yes, trump is an albatross on America and that's why we that loves America will send him away in Nov. Compare all the economic indices of U S to Britain and see that the difference is clear. Let's start from GDP ?. Your Britain can't even match up with Germany in Europe. Germany is the economic engine of Europe not Britain.
It is indeed very arguable when said that America is the "greatest" country in the world.

First of all, what does it mean to be a great country?
According to the UN charter, the 3 basic indices of a sustainable human life boils down to;
1. The mortality rate.
2. The economic growth and development.
3. The safety and security of human life, ie, the rate of crime and loss of life.

On this basis, can it really be said that America is the best country that has the best rate of these indices?

America is the richest country in the world, but you have a situation whereby the disparity between the rich and the poor is very large compared to other wealthy nations too. That large wealth is highly concentrated in the hands of a few and a vast majority of its citizens live on just basic income.

You also have to look at the welfare system in other wealthy European nations and see how much better those countries look after their poor citizens and the aged much better than the American system.

2. America's health care system is a quality health care system but one that is consumed by its ultra capitalism.
You have a situation whereby individuals are constantly seeking to make as much money as they can from ailing individuals, Unlike In Europe where the wealthiest countries have a centralized health care system like the NHS in UK and that of Germany that subsidizes the cost of healthcare costs of for it's citizens.

It is much cheaper to treat yourself in Europe than in America despite having comparable qualities of health care.

Lastly, It is fairly obvious to state that security in America is quite alarming for an advanced country. Before you even factor racially motivated crime.
In America, you have a terrifying situation whereby almost every single adult feels the need to buy a gun to feel safe.
America has the highest crime and incarceration rate of any advanced country, thousands continuously die of gunshot wounds daily.
The quality of the police-civilian relationship has always been very poor unlike other wealthy countries like Germany, UK and France. America has the highest no of gangs and street urchins worse still armed with automatic weapons.

Short and simple. American safety is the poorest compared to other 1st world countries.

So you can see, it's sort of a myth to say that America is the "greatest" country in the world. Being the richest country and having the best military doesn't necessarily translate to it's citizens having the best quality of life.
An average citizen of Germany or UK will boast of having a good chance of economic upward mobility, while also boasting of feeling very secured in a society without guns and a very healthy incarceration rate, one where their country focuses on rehabilitation rather than incarceration. One where they can count on their government to provide good quality health care for all it's citizens and not left at the mercy of capitalists and insurers.

AMERICA IS NOT THE "GREATEST" COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. THAT'S A MYTH.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Qstorm: 7:38pm On Jul 23, 2020
OjoMadiba:
President Trump will be elected again!!!
No doubts about that, TRUMP 2020!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 7:40pm On Jul 23, 2020
SonofLincoln:
Are you illiterate or what. California and Texas probably have bigger GDP than your Britain.
All na hype.

The Top Four Reasons California is Unsustainable

The California Governments
California spends nearly $200 billion a year on budget and even more off-budget in the form of programs paid with bonds, i.e. debt financing. As for the pension debt, of that nearly $200 billion, in the most recent budget less than $2 billion was allocated to paying down that pension debt. More than that was spent this year on a high-speed rail project currently estimated to cost $70 billion and which no one seems to want.

Government Debt.
“California state and local governments owe $1.3 trillion as of June 30, 2015.” The study was based on “a review of federal, state and local financial disclosures.”
In other words, that $1.3 trillion in debt is the amount to which California governments admit. Other studies believe it to be more. Indeed, one study says it is actually $2.3 trillion and a recent Hoover Institute stated that there is over $1 trillion in pension liability alone, or $76,884 per household. Incredibly, there are 4 million current pension beneficiaries, a number that continues to grow and which exceeds the total population of 22 states.

California’s Infrastructure Deficit.
In the last 50 years, however, California’s infrastructure needs have been ignored.

The state’s water system remains essentially is as it was in the 1960s. As for its roads, a recent headline declared that “California’s roads are some of the poorest in the nation and rapidly getting worse.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/thomasdelbeccaro/2018/04/19/the-top-four-reasons-california-is-unsustainable/amp/
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by tsinzu: 7:50pm On Jul 23, 2020
SonofLincoln:
It was a mistake but clowns like you can hype on that all you want. The bottom line is that I will vote on Nov 3rd and not single one of you N200 club can. Dick Durbin I meant. I grew up in Uptown Section of Chicago on Lawrence and Sheridan Avenue and schooled at Loyola Acadamy on North Shores and Loyola University in Roger's Park. Tell me where you guys schooled, in some cave with wide animals roaming next to your schools. Orange a@s worshippers.
Hmmm, My father is the owner of mountain Kilimanjaro, we had a mansion in the middle of the Atlantic ocean, that's where I grew up and I schooled with santa's elves in sugar candy mountain. Santa Claus himself was my lecturer. You think say na only you sabi spin yarn abi? Shattap there! You don already cast yourself, no go carry do pass this one. You go wound oh.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by SonofLincoln: 7:54pm On Jul 23, 2020
wirinet:
All na hype.
Name one country with higher GDP than US ?. America is down now and the ruggedness of Americans will bring her back not withstanding the Cockwomble in the White House now. On Jan 20, 2021, it will be morning in America again.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by OjoMadiba: 8:16pm On Jul 23, 2020
SonofLincoln:
What's the name of that American company you are working for. I want to apply there too. Scam artist just like Trapping and Don the Con.
Bros, go find work oooo, or better still equip yourself with relevant skills, u can stay anywhere and work in at country.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by SonofLincoln: 8:21pm On Jul 23, 2020
OjoMadiba:
Bros, go find work oooo, or better still equip yourself with relevant skills, u can stay anywhere and work in at country.
That's why I am asking if the American company you are working for is looking for workers. Help a Brother please. Will even pay you for that.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 8:46pm On Jul 23, 2020
Senate clears bill removing Confederate names from military bases, setting up clash with Trump

Senators approved the National Defense Authorization Act in a 86-14 blowout.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/23/senate-defense-bill-ndaa-bases-trump-380362

The Senate overwhelmingly passed its $741 billion defense policy legislation on Thursday, with the Republican-led body defying a threat from President Donald Trump to veto legislation that would force the removal of Confederate names from Army bases.

Senators approved the National Defense Authorization Act in a 86-14 blowout. Both the House and Senate have passed bills this week with majorities large enough to overcome a veto from Trump.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by OjoMadiba: 9:13pm On Jul 23, 2020
SonofLincoln:
That's why I am asking if the American company you are working for is looking for workers. Help a Brother please. Will even pay you for that.
i won't disclose that info.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by SonofLincoln: 9:32pm On Jul 23, 2020
OjoMadiba:
i won't disclose that info.
Clown and a Con. What a combo.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 9:41pm On Jul 23, 2020
SonofLincoln:
Name one country with higher GDP than US ?. America is down now and the ruggedness of Americans will bring her back not withstanding the Cockwomble in the White House now. On Jan 20, 2021, it will be morning in America again.
In terms of absolute GDP, of course it's the USA. But, in terms of GDP per capita, the USA is not even among the top 10.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 9:45pm On Jul 23, 2020
Mehn trump is a classic idiot
I just cant overstate how dumb he is, this is not genius but lies and gaslighting

How can you show videos of the atrocities happening under your nose and say this is what would happen under Biden? What a foolish thing to do, giving away responsibility while at the same time taking away people's right to protest.

Michael Cohen who committed a crime just got his First Amendment rights protected by the courts. Think about it, Cohen is a felon. But you can take away First Amendment rights of your citizens like criminals because they protested with graffiti. Think these protesters are not criminals in any law of the land.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 9:45pm On Jul 23, 2020
feedthenation:
Senate clears bill removing Confederate names from military bases, setting up clash with Trump

Senators approved the National Defense Authorization Act in a 86-14 blowout.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/23/senate-defense-bill-ndaa-bases-trump-380362

The Senate overwhelmingly passed its $741 billion defense policy legislation on Thursday, with the Republican-led body defying a threat from President Donald Trump to veto legislation that would force the removal of Confederate names from Army bases.

Senators approved the National Defense Authorization Act in a 86-14 blowout. Both the House and Senate have passed bills this week with majorities large enough to overcome a veto from Trump.
Veto a bill that got passed with an 86 - 14 majority? Even Trump is not that stupid. The Senators will simply veto the Presidents veto.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by OjoMadiba: 9:49pm On Jul 23, 2020
SonofLincoln:
Clown and a Con. What a combo.
if that can make you feel less stupid, fine.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 9:49pm On Jul 23, 2020
wirinet:
Veto a bill that got passed with an 86 - 14 majority? Even Trump is not that stupid. The Senators will simply veto the Presidents veto.
what I know is trump is going to end up in a rather sad or tragic blaze of dumbfoolery but his supporters will see it as blaze of glory

In not too far future, to call someone a trump can get your jaw realigned
Mothers will warn their kids... Don't you be a trump, you knucklehead...
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by SonofLincoln: 9:55pm On Jul 23, 2020
wirinet:
In terms of absolute GDP, of course it's the USA. But, in terms of GDP per capita, the USA is not even among the top 10.
Check the population of US (340) million to those countries you are talking about and see the difference. It's easy for a country of 6 or 7 million people to have that kind of GDP when their workforce is tiny compared to Almighty US.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by SonofLincoln: 9:57pm On Jul 23, 2020
wirinet:
Veto a bill that got passed with an 86 - 14 majority? Even Trump is not that stupid. The Senators will simply veto the Presidents veto.
I think 66 or 67 votes is needed to override a presidential veto.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by SonofLincoln: 9:59pm On Jul 23, 2020
Obrigardo:
what I know is trump is going to end up in a rather sad or tragic blaze of dumbfoolery but his supporters will see it as blaze of glory

In not too far future, to call someone a trump can get your jaw realigned
Mothers will warn their kids... Don't you be a trump, you knucklehead...
Mothers are saying don't be a Trumpy right now. That's how disgusting that piece of human crap is. Cohen will be out of jail soon and he will finish his book. That's the reason AG Barr sent him back to jail while Manafort is out of jail. Everything will be over for Don the Con in a little over 100 days.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by SonofLincoln: 10:06pm On Jul 23, 2020
Over 4 million Americans officially contracted Trumpvirus. That's a black dot on Trump and we will remember on Nov 3rd.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 10:09pm On Jul 23, 2020
SonofLincoln:
I think 66 or 67 votes is needed to override a presidential veto.
A 2/3 senate vote of a quorum overrides a president's veto. It's 66 at a full senate sitting, but could be significantly less since a quorum is 51 senators.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 10:13pm On Jul 23, 2020
AbdulSleeky:
The largest economy on debt.

If I borrow 2 million dollars, my bank account will look big but the reality is that I'm a debtor.


Go and read. America is not even in the top 5 developed countries
Layman logic
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by SonofLincoln: 10:19pm On Jul 23, 2020
wirinet:
A 2/3 senate vote of a quorum overrides a president's veto. It's 66 at a full senate sitting, but could be significantly less since a quorum is 51 senators.
You are right.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 10:44pm On Jul 23, 2020
Out of every trial and tribulation, we've always emerged stronger as a nation — and we will again. If we come together, there is not a single thing we cannot accomplish.

-- Joe Biden


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zwKa1tfxxE

https://twitter.com/i/status/1286415793245347845
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 10:55pm On Jul 23, 2020
SonofLincoln:
Check the population of US (340) million to those countries you are talking about and see the difference. It's easy for a country of 6 or 7 million people to have that kind of GDP when their workforce is tiny compared to Almighty USA
100/100
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by onyemaair:
Rubbish
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by adelove1914: 12:16am On Jul 24, 2020
Obrigardo:
Mehn trump is a classic idiot
I just cant overstate how dumb he is, this is not genius but lies and gaslighting

How can you show videos of the atrocities happening under your nose and say this is what would happen under Biden? What a foolish thing to do, giving away responsibility while at the same time taking away people's right to protest.

Michael Cohen who committed a crime just got his First Amendment rights protected by the courts. Think about it, Cohen is a felon. But you can take away First Amendment rights of your citizens like criminals because they protested with graffiti. Think these protesters are not criminals in any law of the land.
A classic idiot he is and his supporters are the most stupid..One of the pictures were even from Ukraine in 2014,yet all he does is to claim fake news..A very stupid individual
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 12:21am On Jul 24, 2020
Obrigardo:
Mehn trump is a classic idiot
I just cant overstate how dumb he is, this is not genius but lies and gaslighting

How can you show videos of the atrocities happening under your nose and say this is what would happen under Biden? What a foolish thing to do, giving away responsibility while at the same time taking away people's right to protest.

Michael Cohen who committed a crime just got his First Amendment rights protected by the courts. Think about it, Cohen is a felon. But you can take away First Amendment rights of your citizens like criminals because they protested with graffiti. Think these protesters are not criminals in any law of the land.
grin

Rare height of foolishness.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 12:40am On Jul 24, 2020
Every player and coach on the Yankees & Nationals took a knee before the national anthem tonight in D.C.


grin grin grin

Trump is gonna rant bad tonight.
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