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komekn:
Because a players is in the EPL it doesn't automatically attribute the player with outstanding quality. What is important is what impact the players has in the league.

What is ignorance, lack.of knowledge

I am not ignorant of the Eredivisie l know coaches and players past and present from the Eredivisie. I don't just follow statistics, l look at the way the statistics are arrived at as well.

Then l converge statistics with first hand experience. A few years ago l spent some time in PSV looked at there systems as well as watched them train and watched matches.

So l would not just jump to blanket conclusion without having it anchored on something. I did not say that the Championship is superior buy that better is open to discussion particularly in context.

Ignorance is on your part because everything is based on assumption upon assumption.

We have essentially a one club league, with Ajax winning the title year out year in for donkey years. Ajax has been very successful in Europe as well.

So what you have is Ajax and everybody else. And everyone else is considerably below Ajax in the Eredivisie. How many Eredivisie clubs have had any success in Europe.

So to make the assumption that a league that is ranked number 9 in Europe is better than the second tier of a league ranked number 2 in Europe. Is simply not proven

We should also consider which is the easiest league to score in the top 20 league in Europe. It's actually the Eredivisie.

charlesemeka85:
Jean-Gerard Benoit Czajka has been Victor Osimhen’s agent since he was 14 and he moved him to Wolfsburg, Charleroi and then Lille before he was sacked by the player during negotiations for the transfer to Napoli.

He has given reasons why he will now drag Osimhen, Napoli and Lille to court should he not be paid five million Euros for the work he did for the striker to sign for the Italian club.

In this most revealing interview, he also gave a great insight to this much-talked about transfer.

QUESTION: How many years have you worked with Victor Osimhen?

Officially, I signed my first mandate with him and his father, I think he was 16 years old, it was well before the 2015 World Cup in Chile, where he shone. In fact, I have been working with him since the age of 14 with my partners.


How did you get to know him?

It is thanks to my associates in Nigeria. It is especially Shira Yussuf (Editor’s note: one of them) who discovered him at the age of 14, he told me about it very quickly.

Thereafter, we contacted Emmanuel Amuneke, then coach of the country’s U17s. We told him: “Go see this youngster, he’s a phenomenon”.



We insisted, he saw him and gave him a chance in his team.


How did Osimhen get to Europe?

Before the 2015 World Cup, we offered him all over Europe but to no success … And then after the 2015 World Cup, everyone was calling me, but he could have left Africa at a very affordable price. When he exploded in Chile, interest skyrocketed.

Finally, I got him signed when he turned 18 at Wolfsburg, and after Charleroi then in Lille, and finally 99% in Naples …



So, what happened that you weren’t by his side at the last moment (for Napoli transfer)?

Good question … With my partner (Editor’s note: Didier Fresnay), when everything was going to happen, we were suddenly dismissed to be replaced by a new agent (Editor’s note: William D’Avila) …



July 13 in the morning , Victor asked me to accompany him to Naples to finalize everything. I said, “Ok”, but my flight to Naples was finally full and I couldn’t get there.

Fortunately, moreover, because Lille had chartered him a private flight to go to Sardinia, to Olbia, where the two club presidents were present. He couldn’t sign without me.


What was your reaction?

My lawyers sent an email to Victor, Naples and LOSC. And on July 14, I in turn received an email “stopping abruptly and without cause” my mandate of representation with Victor Osimhen which was in effect until January 2021.

While the two clubs had agreed on the terms of the transfer weeks before, and all the details of Victor’s contract were known, the player had his medical visit in Rome during the week. Which is no doubt that his contract was signed with Naples …


One of the reasons given in the media for your sack was that you preferred to negotiate bonuses for yourself. What do you have to say to that?

These are nonsense that they put in the head of the player.

We have correspondences from Napoli, there is a guaranteed commission that we received by email from Mr. Giuntoli (Editor’s note: the Sporting Director of Napoli) of 5M € for the work done, which constitutes about 8% of the total gross contract negotiated.

We were far from negotiating personal bonuses as Victor told the press!

Obviously I am aware that this may seem important to ordinary people, but it is a work of many years, of personal sacrifices which have resulted today in making Victor Osimhen the player he has become, and so the value he now has in the market! And when everything is going to be realized, we are removed to put a new agent!



Can you tell us behind the scenes of the negotiations with the Serie A club?



We have been in contact with them since March. With the Covid-19, we finally managed to see each other at the end of May, early June in Monaco with Giuntoli and then we moved with the player at the beginning of July to Naples.

To be clear, if we were in Italy it was because the two clubs have had an agreement for a long time and they told us so.

I think that Lille were not happy that Victor came back (from Naples) without signing his contract.

They had a knife under the throat with the DNCG (for their professional license).



Did you conduct all the discussions with Napoli?

Yes, and to be honest, Victor did not want to go to Italy. From the start, he has been stuck on the idea of ​​playing in Serie A. He told me that racism issues scared him and that he didn’t feel like moving.

He even told me in March-April: “I don’t want to go and play in Italy even if it’s for Juventus at € 10 million net per year”.


How then did you manage to convince him?

I told Victor that before having such strong ideas, that he had to travel to see for himself, meet people, talk with players who are confronted with racism, etc. … Something that we finally did on July 1, 2 and 3 where we met the coach, the sports director, as well as the president De Laurentiis, who is a man with values ​​and experience, and who seemed to have convinced the player.

Victor also spoke a lot with Kalidou Koulibaly (Senegal international defender) and this was decisive in his choice for Napoli.



And then, we imagine that there is also the financial aspect …

Yes, it must also be said, when a big club like Napoli offer you a starting place, with a contract of around 30M € net of taxes (over 6 years), it helps to make a decision at 21!

While you explain to us that for you everything is recorded, the transfer of the player is not yet being made official. What is your reading of this?

What I understand is that they are trying to justify “the work” of the “new agent”, having resumed negotiations from the start.

I am in a hurry to discover the final contract signed by Victor, and to compare it with what we had done with Napoli formally.

On the morning of July 13, Luis Campos and Gérard Lopez contacted me by phone, strongly recommending that I negotiate with this new agent, otherwise, according to them, “I risked losing everything …” For me, Osimhen signed on the 14th, 15th or 16th (July).

You can’t buy a € 60 million player by having him undergo his medical examination without having already signed his contract.

You know Victor Osimhen well, do you think he really understands everything that is happening around him?

There is a lot of pressure. He certainly lost his footing. There’s this William D’Avila who must have been wooing him for a while.

Maybe he told him that we could get him a better deal.

I see him on July 9 in Paris to make a point, on the 13th, he tells me to take the plane to join him, while the new agent is there … It is not possible because it is us who did all the work.

And you do not go twice to Naples, in particular to Sardinia, without having signed contract.



What is your position regarding a possible reconciliation?

We have always worked honestly with Victor, which many agents cannot say, we are within our rights. And if we have to go to court to save face, we’ll go … I would add that in my opinion, we do not go before an organization as serious as the DNCG without providing evidence that the operation of “flagship” sale of the summer will be formalised.

We are quiet. My lawyers have all the documents on the work done. I will therefore assert my rights in court. Afterwards, it is very likely that I can be offered a compensation, which I will not accept.

You have known Victor since the age of 14, from a human angle, do you feel any bitterness after so many years being with him?

This isn’t the first time this has happened in football, and it won’t be the last time, though.

I am lucky to be a structured person and to have a little resources, so I will go to the end, if only for all these agents who are victims of similar situations, but who cannot defend themselves and who lose the fruit of all their work for years …

Adapted from France Football

ChrisKels:
Elyte89 I am suspecting you

Danielnino00:
You can't even man up and accept that you lied..

Your post was laced with ignorance and lies..

Lie number 1


Lie plus ignorance



Bullcrap

.

Another lie.. no data to back it up




You once asked me to bring proof of any of your lies on this thread..
There u have it...

komekn:
You use the term LIES as if you don't what it means. How many league titles has Ajax won go and check. That makes it essentially a one league team just like Bayern in the Bundesliga, Celtic in the Scottish Premier league and PSG more or less but in recent times on the French league one.

Go and check European stats on the highest scoring leagues in Europe.

So go back and understand what the word LIES mean.

Finally, you should watch the Fulham Vs Cardiff match to see a good example of the quality of the Championship.

It has just started

TheSuperNerd:
Alhassan Yusuf is Swedish Cup Champion!!!

Alhassan Yusuf played all 120 mins (90mins + 30 mins of extra time football) as his side came back from a goal down to win 2-1 after extra time.

Innocent Bonke was on the losing side, Malmo and played 85mins before being subbed off.

Congrats Alhassan.

feelme2020:
Not really, the Algerian midfielders were too technical for him. Algeria has many technically gifted midfielders in the xavi, okocha, kanu range and if you are just average you will be caught out if you play against such a midfield. We dont have players like that. Iwobi is trying but he is not okocha or zidane. He tried his best but men those Algerian midfielders were too technical and creative for him. Ismael Benacer is better than Iwobi. Iwobi is good but put him up against a world class play maker and his limitations will show

benji93:
Too technical? Are you kidding me. Which players are you talking about?Is it Guedioura who was playing for Al Gharafa, Qatar, Feghouli who was playing for Galatasaray, Belaili who was playing for ES Tunis, or Bennacer who was playing for Empoli-Although he's been good for AC Milan. I am not understanding you. Too creative? Rohr and lack of urgency are to blame for that loss. Unncessary holding of the ball, especially by Etebo. Release the fucking ball. If you are gonna play two holding midfielders then you must rely on quick passes and movement, especially before your opponent establishes order on the defensive. In the 38th minute there was this play by Etebo. Simple short pass he couldn't give. In the 44th minute, what kind of fucking set up is that? I don't even blame Iwobi for the turn over. Those guys left him no choice. Ndidi, 45th minute. Why wouldn't you pass the ball to Iwobi. He was actually asking for it, cos he noticed the spaces.That could've led to something good upfront. 51st minute, Oga Etebo, wetin you dey do? That move by Etebo in the 54th minute is what i want. The same 54th minute, wetin you dey do Old man Musa? . Na Clap Rohr just dey clap. . 55th minute, enen na that kind thing i dey talk. You see that combination there, old man musa try for that one but him too push the ball for that last play. 57th minute, wetin ol man dey do? En. Two people dey free for flanks you wan form Messi. . Anytime Chukwueze do that unproductive thing in the 60th minute again. Komot am. . Sometimes this boys never learn until you sit them on the bench. Besides the Algerians were already gased out by the 55th minute. Wetin correct team suppose do? This is exactly why a sound coach is needed. Instruct your players to get themselves in better positions. Simple, Clean passes. If a player doesn't want to comply get him out. Bad decision upon bad decision. I repeat that Algerian team wasn't better. Overall, Iwobi didn't try his best at all. He was terrible. The strength of our wingers went to waste. The midfielders couldn't exploit it. If you are going to play two holding midfielders, make sure one of them is very good at spraying passes that could unleash an attack. But honestly, Etebo would be a hell of a player if he can make better decisions and he exhudes a lot energy. The guy get presence i beg.

ChrisKels:
Joebie your squad is making waves, too bad they ain't giving you no credit

Joebie:
why do I need credit?

ChrisKels:
Who did this?

ChrisKels:
To recharge ur phone and make calls nah, or use it to make subscriptions

Danielnino00:
Oga,you lied! Man up and admit it.

Ajax,PSV and Feynoord are the biggest teams in the Dutch league...Ajax are the most dominant but it doesn't make it a one team league!
Go and check the last 5 winners of the Eredivise and come back to admit your lies..


I should watch Cardiff and Fulham for what?
There is no quality in the championship that we haven't seen before..
Norwich and Aston Villa played better football while in the championship but where put in their place in the EPL...

The a screenshots below are from the most reliable sites I could find on data for Europe highest scoring leagues, as you can see, it proves that you are a liar..

benji93:
Too technical? Are you kidding me. Which players are you talking about?Is it Guedioura who was playing for Al Gharafa, Qatar, Feghouli who was playing for Galatasaray, Belaili who was playing for ES Tunis, or Bennacer who was playing for Empoli-Although he's been good for AC Milan. I am not understanding you. Too creative? Rohr and lack of urgency are to blame for that loss. Unncessary holding of the ball, especially by Etebo. Release the fucking ball. If you are gonna play two holding midfielders then you must rely on quick passes and movement, especially before your opponent establishes order on the defensive. In the 38th minute there was this play by Etebo. Simple short pass he couldn't give. In the 44th minute, what kind of fucking set up is that? I don't even blame Iwobi for the turn over. Those guys left him no choice. Ndidi, 45th minute. Why wouldn't you pass the ball to Iwobi. He was actually asking for it, cos he noticed the spaces.That could've led to something good upfront. 51st minute, Oga Etebo, wetin you dey do? That move by Etebo in the 54th minute is what i want. The same 54th minute, wetin you dey do Old man Musa? . Na Clap Rohr just dey clap. . 55th minute, enen na that kind thing i dey talk. You see that combination there, old man musa try for that one but him too push the ball for that last play. 57th minute, wetin ol man dey do? En. Two people dey free for flanks you wan form Messi. . Anytime Chukwueze do that unproductive thing in the 60th minute again. Komot am. . Sometimes this boys never learn until you sit them on the bench. Besides the Algerians were already gased out by the 55th minute. Wetin correct team suppose do? This is exactly why a sound coach is needed. Instruct your players to get themselves in better positions. Simple, Clean passes. If a player doesn't want to comply get him out. Bad decision upon bad decision. I repeat that Algerian team wasn't better. Overall, Iwobi didn't try his best at all. He was terrible. The strength of our wingers went to waste. The midfielders couldn't exploit it. If you are going to play two holding midfielders, make sure one of them is very good at spraying passes that could unleash an attack. But honestly, Etebo would be a hell of a player if he can make better decisions. He exhudes a lot energy. The guy get presence i beg. He get oen stretch like that i come dey find Ndidi like a needle in a haystack.

wayodude:
Premier league football will be returning to the Hawthorns next season, so Ajayi joined at the right time and has more than proven his worth.

Stoke will at best escape relegation from the championship. Etebo made a massive mistake joining them after having a decent world cup. On the back of a relegation near miss from the championship I worry what ideas his agent will come up with.

Simon Moses is unlikely to return to Levante. Sometimes it just doesn't work out for you at certain clubs, he will recognise that and stay away. If he doesn't then well, all the best to him.

Umar Sadiq needs a permanent home. Only then will we know if he is any better than what we've seen so far which really is underwhelming.

benji93:
Too technical? Are you kidding me. Which players are you talking about?Is it Guedioura who was playing for Al Gharafa, Qatar, Feghouli who was playing for Galatasaray, Belaili who was playing for ES Tunis, or Bennacer who was playing for Empoli-Although he's been good for AC Milan. I am not understanding you. Too creative? Rohr and lack of urgency are to blame for that loss. Unncessary holding of the ball, especially by Etebo. Release the fucking ball. If you are gonna play two holding midfielders then you must rely on quick passes and movement, especially before your opponent establishes order on the defensive. In the 38th minute there was this play by Etebo. Simple short pass he couldn't give. In the 44th minute, what kind of fucking set up is that? I don't even blame Iwobi for the turn over. Those guys left him no choice. Ndidi, 45th minute. Why wouldn't you pass the ball to Iwobi. He was actually asking for it, cos he noticed the spaces.That could've led to something good upfront. 51st minute, Oga Etebo, wetin you dey do? That move by Etebo in the 54th minute is what i want. The same 54th minute, wetin you dey do Old man Musa? . Na Clap Rohr just dey clap. . 55th minute, enen na that kind thing i dey talk. You see that combination there, old man musa try for that one but him too push the ball for that last play. 57th minute, wetin ol man dey do? En. Two people dey free for flanks you wan form Messi. . Anytime Chukwueze do that unproductive thing in the 60th minute again. Komot am. . Sometimes this boys never learn until you sit them on the bench. Besides the Algerians were already gased out by the 55th minute. Wetin correct team suppose do? This is exactly why a sound coach is needed. Instruct your players to get themselves in better positions. Simple, Clean passes. If a player doesn't want to comply get him out. Bad decision upon bad decision. I repeat that Algerian team wasn't better. Overall, Iwobi didn't try his best at all. He was terrible. The strength of our wingers went to waste. The midfielders couldn't exploit it. If you are going to play two holding midfielders, make sure one of them is very good at spraying passes that could unleash an attack. But honestly, Etebo would be a hell of a player if he can make better decisions. He exhudes a lot energy. The guy get presence i beg. He get oen stretch like that i come dey find Ndidi like a needle in a haystack.

komekn:
Over the past 10 seasons Ajax have won the title including this season effectively 6 times. PSV has won it 3 times and Feynoord has won it once.

In my opinion that's overwhelming dominance by one team IMO and in that context i looked at as a one team league. That's my view, l did not say they have won it every year. But in your small mindedness you define that to be a Lie. It seems you don't understand basic meaning of a LIE.

If I was to be generous l could say its a league dominated by two teams if we look at the past 30 years. PSV and Ajax, you mentioned Feynoord they have only managed to win it once in twenty years.

I will ask you to review the bolded that you have written. I define that as one who knows not, but thinks he knows, and refuses to know, that's the complete definition of CRASS IGNORANCE.

Go and watch the match and redeem yourself yourself from the sprit of ignorance. More knowledge is better than less knowledge.

gamaliel9:
If one or two teams dominate a league does it mean that it is a poor league? Juve has dominated...does it mean Calcio is poor?

gamaliel9:
If one or two teams dominate a league does it mean that it is a poor league? Juve has dominated...does it mean Calcio is poor?

gamaliel9:
If one or two teams dominate a league does it mean that it is a poor league? Juve has dominated...does it mean Calcio is poor?

Danielnino00:
IMO,it depends on how the representatives of the league in question perform in continental competitions.

Juve,Bayern,Madrid and Barca have dominated their respective leagues for long and they also have a strong influence in Europe..
Likewise in Africa,teams like Al Alhy and TP Mazembe have dominated their leagues and CAF competitions.
That shows how good those leagues are.


With respect to the Dutch league,it is a top quality league...forget the UEFA coefficient.. at one time,it was among the top 5 in Europe..

Komekn is just trying to downplay it's quality to prove that Ejuke didn't have a better season than Eze..

Typical...

Edopesin:
Seria A is not poor but the league is not as competitive as others because of margin between Juve and other teams in the league is extremely wide, their quality is just way above the rest in Seria A but that doesn't mean they're poor as we've seen in UCL and UEL

komekn:
Your perception cannot be used to define my narrative and or create it. A Lie is an untruth.

You are creating all these assumptions but they are not TRUE they are birthed entirely by you.

The claim was made that Ejuke is better than Eze on the basis that the Eredivisie is better than the championship.

My view was very simple that proposition is simply not proven and or true.

The football is always about the current not the past. And indeed the Eredivisie was dominating European football for quite some time. But not anymore that's History.

The Eredivisie has been hovering just below and or over 10th place for several seasons. The EPL has been on the top for quite some time. That's second place.

And if the Eredivisie is number 9, would you assume it's on par with the EPL so why would you assume that the 2nd tier is therefore lower and or superior to the Championship. On what basis, was my question.

But you have turned into rancourous hostility as usual.

gamaliel9:
There was a time it was either Madrid or Catalan Army, but Sevilla kept winning the UEFA... The Championship should be compared to other similar divisions... I repeate Ejuke and Eredivisie are better than Eze and Championship...

gamaliel9:
There was a time it was either Madrid or Catalan Army, but Sevilla kept winning the UEFA... The Championship should be compared to other similar divisions... I repeate Ejuke and Eredivisie are better than Eze and Championship...