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donnie:
The brainwashed coon and his white Jesus. How market? Una neva rapture yet?

Image123:
Oh rapture, how many rhapsody have you sold in your life?

donnie:
O that book of many white Jesus lies.

Image123:
You forgot to answer the question.

By the way, i didn't say the color of Jesus' skin, it is irrelevant. What He did and does for me is much more relevant. You're the racist, remember?

donnie:
That's a terrible lie manufactured by racists and propagated by black coons. If it was irrelevant, why did they change the image? Up until 1500s all images where black. Irrelevant indeed.

Image123:
Because it was/is relevant to you and your fellow conspirators. Make sense please.

Image123: your cooking stove is irrelevant.

Donnie: that's a terrible lie. If it was irrelevant, why did I change the wick?

That's exactly how you sound, silly and cuckoo.

donnie:
Christmas was illegal in the US until 1836 as it was considered an ancient pagan holiday.

MuttleyLaff:
Why you can be told not to necessarily call yourself a Catholic aside that the term doesn't exist in the Bible is because God is denomination-agnostic, there is no denomination in heaven, lol. There is nothing like Methodist, Baptist, Evangelical, Protestant, Aladura, MFM, KICC, RCCG, Winners, Deeper Life, Penterascals, Christ Embassy, etcetera in heaven or better still the Kingdom of God, lol

False equivalence. Has pentecost, in light of what happened in the upper room, any specified date, that is chosen for that historic day and eventful moment to be remembered and/or celebrated ni? By the way, who in their right senses, goes around referring himself/herself as Penterascals/pentecostals sef anyway?

The sort of nonsense that must stop this 2019 o is rantings and ravings such as like this one. Why havent you wondered, why isnt any other date like, Nov 25th, Oct 25th, Sept 25th, Jan 25th or even sef any other day of month X not picked or selected for celebration. Why particularly is the day December 25th chosen for selection as Jesus' birthdate, lol?

If you accept and agree to the use of the Bible to validate or invalidate any religious practice, based upon "biblical theology" then why havent you considered that, the deliberate omission of the exact date of our Lord and Savior, Son of God, Jesus Christ's birth day, must have by divine providence, been done on purpose, hmm? What afterall is "biblical theology"? Isnt it the study of God from the Bible, hmm? If so, then tell where from your studying God in the bible, it says, to pick and/or select a date, to celebrate the birth and/or death of our Lord and Savior, Son of God, Jesus Christ, lol, hmmm?

The birth and/or death of our Lord and Savior, Son of God, Jesus Christ is a thing to be acknowledged, valued, appreciated, celebrated and be thankful of, not just only on Christmas day, but it should be a daily, everyday affair. Everyday is a day to rejoice.

It is true, not many know the background, that the first 300 years of what we know as Christianity, there wasnt any Christmas (i.e. no Christ's mass.) It just never existed, it wasn't so. It actually was Roman Emperor, Constantine who commandeered the pagan festival of Saturnalia to be converted and used to celebrate the birth of Christ, hence the December 25th that we have that pretends to be Jesus’ birthday, lol. Why didnt Fada Oluoma, look up on the internet first, what went on during the December 17-25 week long pagan feast, lol, holiday celebration of Saturnalia, lol and compare with Christmas festive period activites today, lol?

MuttleyLaff:
jamesid\29, you want precise facts, right? OK then, let's go straightaway there, lol. First and foremost, jamesid29, you err, when you typed, that there was no official festivity associated with them. jamesid\29, c'mon now, what about all these Christmas paraphernalia? Are they too, like Christmas tree, the decorations, the burning fire yule log etcetera, devoid of pagan influence too, lol?

While its true, others, previously before Constantine, have been romancing with the idea of picking a day for the celebration of Jesus' birth, it actually was Roman Emperor, Constantine who commandeered the pagan festival of Saturnalia to be converted and used to celebrate the birth of Christ, hence the December 25th that we have that pretends to be Jesus’ birthday, lol. It is a fact, that, before the year 336 AD, there is no record of December 25th being observed as the birth of Jesus, in Rome. The church in Rome began formally celebrating Christmas on December 25 in 336, during the reign of the emperor Constantine.

Constantine, having made Christianity, effectively the state religion of the empire, chose this date December 25th, as part of a political move to weaken the established popular pagan celebrations and Roman festival, the December 17-25 week long pagan feast, called the Saturnalia, that's characterised with people feasting and exchanging gifts with each other. Incidentally, also December 25th, is the birthday of the Indo-European deity Mithra, a god of light and loyalty and at that time, was increasingly achieving cult status with the Roman soldiers.

Starting on December 17 and lasting seven days, Saturn, the Roman god of agriculture, is being honored, lol, then starting on December 25 and lasting through January 1, commemorates the birth of Mithras, the Persian god of light, lol, but Constantine merged these two traditions from these festivals with the Nativity story in the Bible and the rest is history on how Christmas was born, lol.

I am saying this, in the real sense of the word, it was Constantine who commissioned, the building of the Church of the Nativity on a spot in Bethlehem assumed to be the exact birthplace of Christ. Check out the below excerpt, on who then, first made Christmas official and declared December 25th a civic holiday, lol.

"While there is one record of Christmas being celebrated in Antioch (Turkey) on December 25 in the middle of the second century, there is no record of its being observed on that date in Rome until the year 336 AD. In 350 AD Pope Julius I declared December 25 the official date and in 529 AD Emperor Justinian declared Christmas a civic holiday. Further legislation by the Council of Tours in 567 AD officially made Advent a period of fasting and preparation; the time from Christmas to Epiphany (the twelve days of Christmas) was also declared part of the festive season"
Excerpt from: https://www.lnstar.com/mall/main-areas/xmas-not-first-choice.htm

jamesid\29, in your comments, you said, they are your own personal opinion, that "it's unclear as to when Christ was born as the Bible doesn't give us much information and it's also true that the early church didn't record celebrating the birth of Christ".

OK, let's go there on this comment too, lol. Lets separate facts from opinions but I'll start first, by reproducing here a quote of mine pasted here, taken from one of my posts on another thread

jamesid\29, I think, "the elephant in the room" is what you called what's just being touched in the above quote, lol.

Opinions change, but facts don't, they never do jamesid\29, because they're based on reality. jamesid\29, lol, listen, if I should it break down, and by that, I mean embark to speak or write in detail about how Jesus was born in September/October, how one gets to know what month Jesus was conceived etcetera for you, ol'boy, your personal opinion(s), in the face of the presented facts, and there are a sizeable amount of these facts, will expressly change ooo and you'll pronto withdraw them, lol, yet, I am, all for, let sleeping dogs lie and not rocking the table, not discuss the matter any further, lol.

MuttleyLaff:
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Make I no fumble, let me siddon here with miguard dey watch from gatehouse vantage point & bin salute welcome brilliant people as dem dey waka waka pass go upandan the street, lol

Shepherds looking after their sheep in the field (i.e. Luke 2:16-17)

There is no exact number of the visiting wise men available, as this info weren't given in the Bible, so the answer is unknown number of wise men visited Jesus, and three out their unknown numbers gave Him gifts.

He received three gifts, namely Gold, Frankincense and Myrrh

Jesus was somewhere/anywhere up to two years old. Even, King Herod too, isnt sure, which is why he commanded babies from age zero up to 2 years old to be slaughtered

Ahahahah. Interestingly and fyi, the wise men from the East, were in fact, magicians (i.e. magi) lol. Remember Daniel was promoted to be boss of a bunch of them Magi by King Nebuchadnezzar, lol

Here's another fyi, that many arent aware of and that is concerning Job, did you know that, Job, was by the Bible, said to be that man, the greatest of all the sons of the East, lol?.

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You're not alone. December 25th is just like every other day to me, for me and everyone in our household. You'll soon have an idea why, if you continue reading on and read on to the end, lol

SlimBrawnie, you say, no one knows the exact date of Jesus' birth, but with evidences from scripture we are able to pin it down to sometime and somewhere in the month of September, lol. He, as a matter of fact, was born in the month of September, Slim\Brawnie, lol.

The shepherds who had gone to visit him in the manger, would have done so in the month of September/October, lol.

[img]https://s5/images/DancingOnOct31Hallowen.gif[/img]

eedimo, Slim\Brawnie and YoungLionken, what do you each think Nimrod means in Hebrew. Nimrod, fyi ee\dimo, Slim\Brawnie and Young\Lionken, is an archetype of Satan, lol and as a matter of fact, December 25th is his birthday, and so by extension and even proxy, Satan's birthday actually it is too December 25th, lol. I am sensing you saying, but God created Satan long before our calendar days ever got going, lol. Yeah, that is true and you'll be right but remember Nimrod, that Nimrod is an archetype of Satan, hmm? lol.

The bad and unsavoury taste in the mouth doesnt stop there, Satan even covets the Sabbath day, by going after it, hence we have Saturday (i.e. Saturn's day, lol)

Every day is a day to celebrate the birth/death of our Lord and Savior, the Son of God Jesus Christ. It is not only on Christmas day. Christmas day was originally a Pagan festival. Constraint of time and space would not allow me to open up here the can of worms of Christmas day celebration proper and to spill out its ugly contents.

Let's go back a step or two, to see how much of a liar Satan is and to take a look at one of Satan's diversionary tactics. We are going to delve on to October 31st, lol. Yeah, spill the beans on Halloween, baby, lol. Satan will want to give you a false sense of security, by distracting any suspicious attention away from December 25 and diverting the attention on to October 31st, make you believe that October 31st is Satan's birthday and that December 25th is Jesus', lol.

ee\dimo, Slim\Brawnie and Young\Lionken, yeah, everyday is Satan's day on this earth, until rapture, just like Olugbenga1234 has rightly above put it, but every day is a day, the Lord has made too and so we should rejoice and be glad in every single day, everyday, and not just one day whether its October 31st, December 25th or whatever day it is set aside for "celebration." The steadfast love of God never ceases, His mercies never come to an end, they are new every morning, every day, great is His faithfulness, so why cant we celebrate everyday, instead of settling for just one day, a day like just particularly only December 25th, lol, erhn? Have you ever wondered why the powers that be selected December 25th and not November 25th, October 25th, September 25th, January 25th etcetera, hmmm, lol?

"⁵In the same way, some think one day is more holy than another day, while others think every day is alike. You should each be fully convinced that whichever day you choose is acceptable.
⁶Those who worship the Lord on a special day do it to honor him. Those who eat any kind of food do so to honor the Lord, since they give thanks to God before eating. And those who refuse to eat certain foods also want to please the Lord and give thanks to God.
¹⁰So why do you condemn another believer? Why do you look down on another believer? Remember, we will all stand before the judgment seat of God. "
- Romans 14:5-6 & 10

Yep, ee\dimo, Slim\Brawnie and Young\Lionken, we are cognisance of Romans 14:5-6 & 10 above, which is why no one is being judged or condemned for celebrating Jesus on December 25th, neither is anyone being judge or condemned for not joing in celebrating Jesus on December 25th, but just are merely giving a perspective view on some behind the scene and not usually discussed camouflaged real facts of December 25th, lol. Just gave a snapshot bird's-eye view, as in meaning, just the bones without the meat on, lol.

Happy festive period y'all, lol
cc: Finally\Dead, Daejo\young, especially sister Bodydialect\57 lol

MuttleyLaff:
Baba produce "pishures" with black faces, circa 6th century or even 10th century period now. That one na mission impossible for you, lmao, even James Bond, them no born am reach produce any, lmao.

MuttleyLaff:
[img]https://s7/images/mosaic-panel-2-abe-angels.jpg[/img]
The Hospitality of Abraham, c. 432–440, mosaic,
at sanctuary, Church of Santa Maria Maggiore, Rome (Italy)
- based on Genesis 18
where Abraham & Sarah are visited by 3 messengers (i.e. God)

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[img]https://s7/images/Christ_with_beard.jpg[/img]
Mural painting from the catacomb of Commodilla.
One of the first bearded images of Jesus, late 4th century.

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[img]https://s7/images/58810-004-7FC30CE1.jpg[/img]
An early 5th-century mosaic in a semicircular portion of a church in Rome
shows Christ, the Apostles, and the four evangelists (i.e. the Tetramorph represented by the beasts)

[img]https://s7/images/800px-Apsis_mosaic2C_Santa_Pudenziana2C_Rome_W3.jpg[/img]
Christ Pantocrator in a Roman mosaic
in the church of Santa Pudenziana, Rome, c. 400–410 AD (i.e. Enlarged version of pic above it)

MuttleyLaff:
[img]https://s7/images/Daniel.jpg[/img]
Orthodox icon of Daniel the Prophet.
14th century, Mount Athos in Greece

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[img]https://s7/images/Orthodox_icon_of_Prophet_Daniel_1800x1800.jpg[/img]
Orthodox icon of Daniel the Prophet,
13th century, Monastery of Dionysiou, Mount Athos in Greece

MuttleyLaff:
How long will you continue to pick random quotes out of apocrypha books to support your absurd arbitrary perspective and obsession that Jesus is black-skinned. How many times do you need told that, Jesus and the Israelites are neither black-skinned or white-skinned. They aren't Africans, for crying out loud.

"His body was like beryl
(i.e. a golden brown to yellow colour, a variety of treatments may make topaz, wine red, pale gray, reddish-orange)
His face like the appearance of lightning, His eyes like torches of fire,
His arms and feet like burnished bronze (i.e. yellowish-brown alloy of copper) in color,
and the sound of His words like the voice of a multitude"
- Daniel 10:6

"His feet were like polished bronze refined in a furnace,
and His voice was like the roar of many waters"
- Revelation 1:15

The is reddish-brown/golden brown to yellow colour is consistent in Daniel 10:6 and Revelation 1:15. The body, the arms and feet are not black, are not white, but are reddish-brown/golden brown to yellow colour.

The 2nd-century Rabbi Ishmael described the Jewish skin color like this:
“The Children of Israel—may I be their atonement!
—are [mostly] like boxwood, neither dark nor light, but intermediate
(i.e. like the boxwood tree (eshkeroa), neither black nor white, but in between)” (i.e. refer to Mishnah Negaim 2:1 - Sefaria)

[img]https://s7/images/Pantocrator2Spain10thCentury.jpg[/img]
Christ Pantocrator (Christ in Glory)
depicted in this 10th-century Byzantine enamel plaque
in the Museo Lazaro Galdiano, Madrid, Spain

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4a/Spas_vsederzhitel_sinay.jpg/310px-Spas_vsederzhitel_sinay.jpg
Christ, the Saviour (Pantocrator),
a 6th-century encaustic icon
from Saint Catherine's Monastery, Mount Sinai.

The oldest surviving panel icon of Christ Pantocrator, encaustic on panel, circa 6th century, showing the appearance of Jesus that is still immediately recognised today.

[img]https://s7/images/JewishMenRomanCoin.jpg[/img]
Jewish men on Roman coins

Jewish men with the “philosopher” look are portrayed on Roman coins issued by the Emperors Vespasian and Titus. The Romans destroyed Jerusalem and annihilated the Israelites in 70 AD. It actually was Titus under the leadership of his father, who was the conqueror of Jerusalem on that fateful 70 AD. He succeeded his father Vespasian upon his death.

Pope Alexander VI, born Rodrigo de Borja, was Pope from 11 August 1492 until his death in 1503. I am sure, those reddish-brown Mediterranean images of Jesus from the 6th and 10th centuries, couldn't have been commissioned by Pope Alexander VI from the future 14th century that he was born, lmao.

MuttleyLaff:
[img]https://s1/images/MuttAmin.gif[/img]
I stepped on a raw nerve, lmao

I suppose Baba would say he is a black Israelite, same way as Abraham, Jesus and true born real McCoy Israelites are, lmao.
Baba, who are your ancestors from out of the three sons of Noah, namely Ham, Shem and Japheth please?
There is a colloquial in African, that says: "Its only a bastard, who points with a left hand, the direction to his/her ancestral family house"

MuttleyLaff:
Never mind that, don't get your knickers in a twist because of the "Black Israelites" lmao, but I suppose, you would say, you're an Israelite, who is black skinned, the same way, as Adam, Abraham, Jacob, Esau, king David, king Solomon, Jesus and other true born real McCoy Israelites are black skinned, lmao, hmm?

donnie:
That's a terrible lie manufactured by racists and propagated by black coons. If it was irrelevant, why did they change the image? Up until 1500s all images where black. Irrelevant indeed.

MuttleyLaff:
Baba, you and your big fat korokoro bare faced lies are no different to Reno Omokirikiri

All the images above, are not black skinned and they are pre 1500s, going as far back as the 3rd, 4th, 5th ... 13th 14th centuries.

MuttleyLaff:
All the images above, are not black skinned and they are pre 1500s, going as far back as the 3rd, 4th, 5th ... 13th 14th centuries.
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donnie:
Those are the reworking of already existing black pictures. LIARS!
The earliest Lazarus images were in catacombs and looked like this one from the Catacomb of the Giordani. (Source: Diglot.)
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/96/14/b3/9614b3708edfacdea5011d61d2bcfd8e.jpg

donnie:
Priceless painting of 'the true face of Christ' recovered after woman 'burgles mobile home and tries to sell it to church'
Police recovered the religious relic after Kelly Ghormley allegedly tried to sell it to Saint Joseph the Worker Church, in Madisonville, Tennessee.
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/e0/74/59/e074597c1b9310ca30e517b94a174454.jpg

donnie:
This wall painting, depicting the Healing of the Paralytic, is the earliest known representation of Jesus, dating from about 235 AD. The painting was found in 1921 on the left-hand wall of the baptismal chamber of the house-church at Dura-Europos on the Euphrates River in modern Syria. It is now part of the Dura Europos collection at the Yale University Gallery of Fine Arts.

Does this look like the tall, handsome, long hair blue-eyed devil you thieves have turned him into?

MuttleyLaff:
I am pleased to see you had the good sense of leaving "the true face of Christ" in inverted commas, because the painting, is not the true face of Christ, but is based on the Veil of Veronica - the cloth believed to have been used to wipe sweat off Jesus's face as He went to His crucifixion. The painting of Jesus is based on the Veil of Veronica, a sweat cloth said to have had an imprint of His face. Various existing images have been claimed to be the original relic, as well as early copies of it; representations of it are also known as vernicles.

According to legend, a follower dabbed Jesus's face with the cloth as He bore His cross, imprinting His likeness on to it. The handful of paintings, which were then based on it, are therefore thought to be actual likenesses of Jesus's face. This particular one, had even been blessed, by Pope Leo XIII.

donnie:
You are a scammer...see how you have been used and dumped. You have been exposed. See original live interview here. The owner, the police, the church and others testify of the authenticity of this ancient work of art.

h t tps://youtu.be/eRGs-j9BJko

There is always a fake white version of every black truth. And it's not difficult to find lies. It's readily available and all over the internet which is owned and controlled by these principalities of darkenss. The fake history and images is all a deliberate attempt at securing their rule and position but the lies have been exposed and their reign is coming to an end.

MuttleyLaff:
You're so predictable ... Never underestimate, the human capacity for delusion ... "If history teaches anything, it teaches that self-delusion in the face of unpleasant facts is folly" and the facts are, up there aren't an African, not a black skinned, nor black face Lazarus, Jesus et cetera

I am pleased to see you had the good sense of leaving "the true face of Christ" in inverted commas, because the painting, is not the true face of Christ, but is based on the Veil of Veronica - the cloth believed to have been used to wipe sweat off Jesus's face as He went to His crucifixion. The painting of Jesus is based on the Veil of Veronica, a sweat cloth said to have had an imprint of His face. Various existing images have been claimed to be the original relic, as well as early copies of it; representations of it are also known as vernicles.

According to legend, a follower dabbed Jesus's face with the cloth as He bore His cross, imprinting His likeness on to it. The handful of paintings, which were then based on it, are therefore thought to be actual likenesses of Jesus's face. This particular one, had even been blessed, by Pope Leo XIII.

The Veil of Veronica, that you so much are keen to adopt, embrace and warm to, is a Catholic relic, which, according to legend, bears the true likeness of Jesus Christ. However, the story is not recorded in its present form until the Middle Ages.

I beg your pardon, and with all due respect sire, to any believer that knows his/her onions and/or is worth his/her salt, Yahusha is not a blue-eyed devil nor is He black skinned or black face, you identity thieves, are trying to paint Him as and/or turn Him into

Image123:
How can a scammer be used and dumped at the same time? Signs and wonders are happening here.

MuttleyLaff:
When a person is a walking confused dot com, incongruity, is waiting to happen. "Simaios" sure is happening here indeed

Image123:
Lol, coincidentally i came across this same simaios word in a Watchman Nee book today.

donnie:
Thunder fire white Jesus

Image123:
Shior. Your Jesus did not deliver you from your caustic tongue. Wondering what he's done for you besides a youtube channel.

donnie:
Thunder fire white Jesus

Image123:
Shior. Your Jesus did not deliver you from your caustic tongue. Wondering what he's done for you besides a youtube channel.

donnie:
Thunder fire that image of the beast ROME

MuttleyLaff:
KMT. Cursing with thunder, just as if like, being a typical idolater and heathen.

donnie:
Thunder fire white Jesus. That image is already cursed. I am only declaring the judgements already written.

MuttleyLaff:
You can't curse with thunder, as if, like pagans, heathens and/or idolaters cursing with thunder, what does not exist.

There is no recorded account of a white skinned Jesus in scripture, same as there is no recorded account of a black skinned Jesus in scripture, so you're just being ignorant, unnecessarily wasting your breath making "Thunder fire white Jesus" illogical ranting and raving statements upandan the forum

I doubt you, at all, see anything good in whites. I dont suppose you see yourself, at same level of whites, but instead, you see yourself as being superior to whites. As far as you are concerned, whites are inferior to you, are despicable, evil, corrupt, wicked et cetera. Aren't my to the point summary, all that, all correct, hmm?

donnie:
Why is it peppering you? Are you a white Jesus worshipper? If yes, let it pepper you there.

White Jesus includes the powers and the spirit of deception behind the image. White Jesus is the backbone of white supremacy. It is the image of the BEAST Rome. It is Satan's image.

You say it doesn't exist but if you have true discernment, you'll know it is an idol in the hearts of most Isrealites today that has to be uprooted. Thunder fire white Jesus!

psychalade:
Black's worship foreign Idol and we are so so dedicated in our ignorance!

https://genesology..com/2015/04/serapis-christus.html?m=1


https://www.google.com/search?q=How+serapis+christus+became+Jesus+christ&oq=How+serapis+christus+became+Jesus+christ&aqs=chrome..69i57.3060j0j4&client=ms-android-huawei-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

donnie:
Why is it peppering you? Are you a white Jesus worshipper? If yes, let it pepper you there.

White Jesus includes the powers and the spirit of deception behind the image. White Jesus is the backbone of white supremacy. It is the image of the BEAST Rome. It is Satan's image.

You say it doesn't exist but if you have true discernment, you'll know it is an idol in the hearts of most Isrealites today that has to be uprooted. Thunder fire white Jesus!

donnie:
Why is it peppering you? Are you a white Jesus worshipper? If yes, let it pepper you there.

White Jesus includes the powers and the spirit of deception behind the image. White Jesus is the backbone of white supremacy. It is the image of the BEAST Rome. It is Satan's image.

You say it doesn't exist but if you have true discernment, you'll know it is an idol in the hearts of most Isrealites today that has to be uprooted. Thunder fire white Jesus!