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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by tikristinimi21: 6:37pm On Aug 02, 2020
Good evening house.
I want to appreciate everyone for their contribution on this forum. I have benefited immensely from everyone here.

I am at the tiling phase and I seek your counsel.

Please kindly help me vet this quote for the tiling work of my 3 bedrooms bungalow.

Thank you

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 6:42pm On Aug 02, 2020
mufutau55:


Thank you for the explanations sir. Well understood.
So then if the connector pipe between Tank A and B is wider, it should work? Thank you for the usual detail explanations.

Hajji M.

Yes it will work. If Egun is hell bent on this design, then the connector should be at the bottom of both tanks and not at the top. So no tank is superior to the other. Both will fill at the same time and both will empty at the same time.

But there will be complications if the property is for rental. For example, if users of Tank A are wasteful in water usage than Tank B, it means Tank B users will share in the cost of frequent pumping of water for the wasteful use by Tank A.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MrOkenwa(m): 7:13pm On Aug 02, 2020
Perfecttouchade:
here is what I got from someone:. *Roofing Sheet =276.8mts
Facial and ceiling cladding =61.1mts
Flashing =45mts
Total metres =382.9mts
Key pole height 7ft for a one side water fall and 10ft for 2 sides..while we awaits other expert's input . Cheers sir.
I appreciate your response Sir. Thank You very much.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adequate459: 7:20pm On Aug 02, 2020
mufutau55:


Yes. It is cheaper to buy iron in tonnage, as long as you have safe place to save it from rust due to rain.

Hajji M.

Thank you sir

I just learnt something for my pending project as well.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 7:20pm On Aug 02, 2020
Perfecttouchade:
sir, I will help get details of it while other experts here too can give their own opinions..reasons because I'm not into roofing but I can help source for the required details. Thanks. Cc: saydfact kolashangone

Evening boss..

Cc: MrOkenwa

The major factor to note is, if the king post goes beyond 10ft - 11ft (actual length of hardwood), cost is greatly increased.

However, anything from 2.4m (8ft) is adequate... It all comes down to choose and aesthetic..

Goodluck

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 7:21pm On Aug 02, 2020
diordaves:


Yes it will work. If Egun is hell bent on this design, then the connector should be at the bottom of both tanks and not at the top. So no tank is superior to the other. Both will fill at the same time and both will empty at the same time.

But there will be complications if the property is for rental. For example, if users of Tank A are wasteful in water usage than Tank B, it means Tank B users will share in the cost of frequent pumping of water for the wasteful use by Tank A.

Thanks for all the responders.

Yes the property is for rental and I don’t want any complications so I’ll go back to the drawing board.

I think I’ll just make the whole shebang independent.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Perfecttouchade: 7:22pm On Aug 02, 2020
MrOkenwa:

I appreciate your response Sir. Thank You very much.
you are welcome Sir
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 7:23pm On Aug 02, 2020
EgunMogaji2:
Greetings and salutations.

Plumbers, professionals and amateurs like me, please peruse my attached drawing and see if my ploy will work.

The intent is a single supply source for both tanks to reduce daily work.

Thanks.

Based on the responses, I’m thankful, it’s back to the drawing board.

Please share pictures of your multi family water stand, tank and plumbing.

Thanks.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Perfecttouchade: 7:24pm On Aug 02, 2020
Evening Sir..
saydfact:


Evening boss..

Cc: MrOkenwa

The major factor to note is, if the king post goes beyond 10ft - 11ft (actual length of hardwood), cost is greatly increased.

However, anything from 2.4m (8ft) is adequate... It all comes down to choose and aesthetic..

Goodluck
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MrOkenwa(m): 7:45pm On Aug 02, 2020
saydfact:


Evening boss..

Cc: MrOkenwa

The major factor to note is, if the king post goes beyond 10ft - 11ft (actual length of hardwood), cost is greatly increased.

However, anything from 2.4m (8ft) is adequate... It all comes down to choose and aesthetic..

Goodluck
Thank you for your input Sir. Please, is there any appropriate length to consider? Cost aside.
I would like the building to be moderately tall. It’s a bungalow. Thank you very much.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 8:25pm On Aug 02, 2020
EgunMogaji2:


Thanks for all the responders.

Yes the property is for rental and I don’t want any complications so I’ll go back to the drawing board.

I think I’ll just make the whole shebang independent.


The 1st drawing can’t work that way,if tank A filled up it can’t enter tank B bcs both tank have the inlet at same level.
The best for that system is for the both tank to supply each other from the bottom inlet.

See attached pics for that

Now if the system is for commercial for diff tenant then the second diagram (see attached pics) will be perfect for such.

Their will be a valve from the bore hole or from the municipal pipe into the two tank through only one pipe line then you will separate the pipe into each tank with valve on each branch, then if mr A need to pump water he will shot off MR B tank supply valve same applicable to Mr B if he needs water vise-visa. More so both can open the valve at a go to have water from the main source

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 8:32pm On Aug 02, 2020
mufutau55:


Looks Ok to me. But I don't both tanks will be fully filled unless the water inlet it located on top of the tank (Tank A) not on the side as your diagram shows.
Running the pipes in the middle of both tanks should work too.
I only have top and bottom in my setup not sideways. Just my observation, unqualified opinion.

@Rotecch77

Hajji M.


The diagram Is wrong water cant flow into the tank B from A at upper supply that way.
Best diagram for both commercial and personal use is what I explained up there sir.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 8:41pm On Aug 02, 2020
mufutau55:


This is not new with HSLBROKER. Just ask FastShipping.

Hajji M.

I have been in contact with ibibioson , who is a client in diaspora.
I prepared the BOQ of the said project. From my investigation so far, HSL BROKER, is not in any isolation center. He has absconded with my clients N3m and is using COVID19 to buy time.
We have told him to provide the location of the Isolation center to verify his claim. But he is yet to respond.
It's been a month now, stories upon stories.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 8:43pm On Aug 02, 2020
rotecch77:



The 1st drawing can’t work that way,if tank A filled up it can’t enter tank B bcs both tank have the inlet at same level.
The best for that system is for the both tank to supply each other from the bottom inlet.

See attached pics for that

Now if the system is for commercial for diff tenant then the second diagram (see attached pics) will be perfect for such.

Their will be a valve from the bore hole or from the municipal pipe into the two tank through only one pipe line then you will separate the pipe into each tank with valve on each branch, then if mr A need to pump water he will shot off MR B tank supply valve same applicable to Mr B if he needs water vise-visa. More so both can open the valve at a go to have water from the main source

Thank you Sir.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 8:50pm On Aug 02, 2020
EgunMogaji2:


True Sir.

Earlier this week I sent Gazzuzz N500K to act as an escrow to a phone purchase on here. The deal fell apart because the seller wouldn’t agree to his exacting escrow demand. I was going to keep the money with him in case another deal came up. Man returned my money within minutes and without me even asking. I’ve never met him in my life though we’ve spoken and chatted on WhatsApp over the years.

There are good people on here. It’s just the few bad perpetrators that abound.

HSL will come on here soon enough with a poppycock song and dance. Beg for forgiveness in the name of Jesus. Blame it on some issue with health or bank snaffle. All will be forgotten. Rinse and repeat.

How many people has Spyder880 built homes fit or sold land to? I’m sure many of them are in the diaspora and haven’t met all of them. AFAIK the man has an unblemished record on here.

Shebi I don talk am though I didn’t foresee the Covid angle. Sweet one grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by soonest(f): 8:57pm On Aug 02, 2020
raymondFirstborn:


I have been in contact with ibibioson , who is a client in diaspora.
I prepared the BOQ of the said project. From my investigation so far, HSL BROKER, is not in any isolation center. He has absconded with my clients N3m and is using COVID19 to buy time.
We have told him to provide the location of the Isolation center to verify his claim. But he is yet to respond.
It's been a month now, stories upon stories.


Hmmh! Too bad
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 9:02pm On Aug 02, 2020
MrOkenwa:

Thank you for your input Sir. Please, is there any appropriate length to consider? Cost aside.
I would like the building to be moderately tall. It’s a bungalow. Thank you very much.

Use between 3300mm to 3900mm
11ft to 13ft

Goodluck
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MrOkenwa(m): 9:09pm On Aug 02, 2020
saydfact:


Use between 3300mm to 3900mm
11ft to 13ft

Goodluck
Thank you.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by SurveyorGeo: 9:21pm On Aug 02, 2020
raymondFirstborn:


I have been in contact with ibibioson , who is a client in diaspora.
I prepared the BOQ of the said project. From my investigation so far, HSL BROKER, is not in any isolation center. He has absconded with my clients N3m and is using COVID19 to buy time.
We have told him to provide the location of the Isolation center to verify his claim. But he is yet to respond.
It's been a month now, stories upon stories.


Interesting
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 9:45pm On Aug 02, 2020
raymondFirstborn:


I have been in contact with ibibioson , who is a client in diaspora.
I prepared the BOQ of the said project. From my investigation so far, HSL BROKER, is not in any isolation center. He has absconded with my clients N3m and is using COVID19 to buy time.
We have told him to provide the location of the Isolation center to verify his claim. But he is yet to respond.
It's been a month now, stories upon stories.

I saw the HSLbroker moniker viewing this thread some days ago around 5 am.
He definitely has access to phone or someone close to him is handling the account.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by TCD: 9:45pm On Aug 02, 2020
EgunMogaji2:
Greetings and salutations.

Plumbers, professionals and amateurs like me, please peruse my attached drawing and see if my ploy will work.

The intent is a single supply source for both tanks to reduce daily work.

Thanks.

If this is supplying to two different houses or flats then this is not ideal. Tank A must fill up for tank B to get water.

Reducing daily work does not really come into play, its 5000L combined to get both tanks filled, the pumping machine will work 5000L no matter what system you use.

The best is to have one pumping machine source with a water flow switch over system that can direct the water pump flow to either A or B.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by drkay(m): 9:47pm On Aug 02, 2020
raymondFirstborn:


I have been in contact with ibibioson , who is a client in diaspora.
I prepared the BOQ of the said project. From my investigation so far, HSL BROKER, is not in any isolation center. He has absconded with my clients N3m and is using COVID19 to buy time.
We have told him to provide the location of the Isolation center to verify his claim. But he is yet to respond.
It's been a month now, stories upon stories.

This is very sad. I knew the covid19 story was a pure lie. As human, we're meant to be considerate and empathetic but not in this case of a cooked covid19 story. I've managed many covid19 patients and I've been in and out of quarantine myself.
I thank God that the guy that I referred to him was yet to initiate any transaction with him.
I can only wish your client goodluck.


drkay:

Just as predicted. I know you dont owe him or anyone here any explanation or review about the said guy. I dont know him personally, other than I've recently referred a subordinate at work to him recently.
Sir, in as much as this can be true, the hslbroker guy didn't manage the situation properly. He wasnt sick when the money was being transferred into his account. Then, why didn't he return their money or directed them to where their materials were, if he had procured them?
I directed somebody to contact him via his WhatsApp number that was copied on his thread and he responded well, the guy would have probably contacted him to seal a deal with him, after this Eid holiday if not for this thing that pop up.
He has been persistently seeing the allegations against him here and some of his close associates here would have probably contacted him to ask him questions. He really shouldn't hinge his refusal to do the appropriate thing on those flimsy excuses.
He lost his fone but he has been having access to Nairaland abi? 3m no be beans abeg.
I think he has lost his reputation here, if he had any ab initio and any attempt to salvage his already dent reputation should be discouraged. His next victim may be someone dearie to you Sir.
Why I gave this comment when the covid19 story came up was because I knew it was a big fat lie.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by coldcandy: 9:54pm On Aug 02, 2020
Somebody was so emphatic abt the hsl guy being in isolation center. He even showed us pics of lovely windows. Could he be fronting for him? N3m no be beans ooo.

raymondFirstborn:


I have been in contact with ibibioson , who is a client in diaspora.
I prepared the BOQ of the said project. From my investigation so far, HSL BROKER, is not in any isolation center. He has absconded with my clients N3m and is using COVID19 to buy time.
We have told him to provide the location of the Isolation center to verify his claim. But he is yet to respond.
It's been a month now, stories upon stories.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 10:21pm On Aug 02, 2020
raymondFirstborn:

I have been in contact with ibibioson , who is a client in diaspora.
I prepared the BOQ of the said project. From my investigation so far, HSL BROKER, is not in any isolation center. He has absconded with my clients N3m and is using COVID19 to buy time.
We have told him to provide the location of the Isolation center to verify his claim. But he is yet to respond.
It's been a month now, stories upon stories.

I already guessed he is not in any COVID Isolation Center.
Isolation in all the way at Imo State from Lagos?.
The guy wey dey login and check his post here at night.
The Client need to use some iron hand with him.
Get some SARS to go after him, N3m not be chicken-change o.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 10:24pm On Aug 02, 2020
diordaves:

Yes it will work. If Egun is hell bent on this design, then the connector should be at the bottom of both tanks and not at the top. So no tank is superior to the other. Both will fill at the same time and both will empty at the same time.

But there will be complications if the property is for rental. For example, if users of Tank A are wasteful in water usage than Tank B, it means Tank B users will share in the cost of frequent pumping of water for the wasteful use by Tank A.

Thank you Sir.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 10:29pm On Aug 02, 2020
rotecch77:

The 1st drawing can’t work that way,if tank A filled up it can’t enter tank B bcs both tank have the inlet at same level.
The best for that system is for the both tank to supply each other from the bottom inlet.

See attached pics for that

Now if the system is for commercial for diff tenant then the second diagram (see attached pics) will be perfect for such.

Their will be a valve from the bore hole or from the municipal pipe into the two tank through only one pipe line then you will separate the pipe into each tank with valve on each branch, then if mr A need to pump water he will shot off MR B tank supply valve same applicable to Mr B if he needs water vise-visa. More so both can open the valve at a go to have water from the main source

Thank you Sir. Both you and Diodaves are saying the same thing and well explained. And your diagram really helped. Thanks.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by smallsmall: 11:09pm On Aug 02, 2020
Abbyrose:
Abbyrose
Good day all, please I need your help. I want to erect the perimeter fence with 4 shops and a toilet on the 60ft side.The plot is 60ft x 100 ft. Kindly assist with materials and cost for blocks, sand, granite, cement, roofing etc.The land is in Ibadan on a dry terrain.
Thank you.


Akin4Sure
Whatsapp me on 07051805606 will help out


Pls , fellow NL, I'm very new on this forum. I contacted Akin4Sure per his response to my request. He is asking for N5k to give me an estimate. Is this the way it works here? Does a contractor charge for giving quotation?

That is shameful!
We even give people DIT experience here, for free, just to assist you start something.
Toss him away like a used tissue. Barawo-banza.
Once you see people saying contact me privately, for something they can say here and now, be wary of them.
undecided
Someone like @Sadyfact will assist you.
And please do remember those that assist you, if you want to give out a job.
A friend in need, is a friend in deed.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by smallsmall: 11:24pm On Aug 02, 2020
rotecch77:



You didn’t get “akin4sure” right, you asked for estimate of materials NOT quotation as contractor.
So the man charged you as QS to give estimate for the materials etc (bill of quantity) Not as a contractor biding for work.


So it is #5,000 that a Q.S charges for Cost estimate, abi?
SMH sef.
The behaviour of that #Akin4sure is disgraceful, let us call a Spade, a Spade.
He presented himself as if he wanted to "assist" the poster.
Note that the poster asked for assistance, he did not ask for a Q.S and if you cant assists, you just need to lookaway from such request.
"Assistance" are FREE on this thread and assistance that will normally costs #100,000 have been given for free here.
Akin4sure now lured the poster off this thread, so he can con him behind all of us.
Is he a Q.S that he is charging as a Q.S, according to you?
I know that so-called professionals want to back each other and insist that the assistance we give each other here is abolished, as it does not work in their favour but l know that most of those who call themselves professional today, where asking "unprofessional assistance", when they came here as a rookie to learn and get better.
No one should think they are indispensable just because they have acquired small experience over time, mostly from learning from what others are doing. We all know as things started here. undecided

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by LastWeek1: 11:28pm On Aug 02, 2020
Hi house. Installing of Heat Extractor (Hood Range) to the kitchen,Is Boring hole to the wall necessary or not; and which one of better?

Regards

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Excuzeme: 11:48pm On Aug 02, 2020
DaBogu:
Please what's can be done to remedy the situation of the crack wall in the picture below

Looking at your building, a few things are obvious:
- There is water/stream flowing nearby
- Your walls are wet, showing that the land is saturated with water
- Your land is swampy, looking at that picture
- Your building is not eqipped for the terrain challenges.

In a situation like yours, the foundation is the most important element and on this, you have not done well.
Anyone building near a stream or in a swamp should be prepared to spend on the foundation, using Granite, Stone Dust and enough Cement, for an appropriate type of Raft Foundation.
Infact, the cost of such foundation amounts to between 30-45% the cost of the whole building, depending on how many levels your building is going.
Again, the building needs a rich combination of Cement, not the weak type that falls apart under small stress
Again, you cant be economical with Iron and Concrete beams and Pillars. For example, you shoud have chained the Lintel all around, to lock the top of the building together with the bottom adn foundation, in one whole piece, making it difficult to experience sheers that can lead to cracks.

If you want to enjoy this building, l must say, most unfortunately, you might have to pull it down because the foundation is non-existent and whatever repairs and palliative you do on it, the problem will re-appear within three to five years maximum and you will end up spending much more money on repairs, over time and even with all that, you will still lose the building.

It is a bad building , as l look at it. Pulling it down and starting afressh is the best option though it looks costly rigth now.
Sorry about this but who helped you start this building? Does the person have any experience in building in swampy areas at all?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Excuzeme: 12:01am On Aug 03, 2020
Neweko:
Morning All,


What can be done to these crack pls.
Building is over 10yrs old

cc
@Charisdesigns
@Aventure
@spyder880
@gabbytabby- Help me show your trusted people. Still grateful for all the reliable workmen


You are in good hands here.

That problem is occuring at an ANGLE of the building.
- I observe that the problem is localised to that angle alone
- I also did not see the problem continue to the lower floor, it is only on that upper floor

So, l think it could be from a very small settlement that puts pressure on your walls but its effect is felt at that point, due to some inherent failure in that part of the building e.g, if your bricklayer/builder was putting Cement paper inside Pillars when filling them, to reduce amount of Concrete mix he will use!

My suggestion is that you arrest the problem quickly.
- Completely Break up that Edge of the building.
- There is supposed to be a Starter Pillar with iron, coming from the decking at that point, attachor new 14mm or 12mm iron rods
- Now, do a rick mix (and we the attached blocks and wall properly ) and fill it up again.
- Use the adjoing walls as the two sides of the new Pillar and just cope the exposed part on them walls to form your new Pillar, such that the Pillar formation goes into the wall crevices naturally.
- Let the mix be rich and a bit watery but not too watery.. Use 1/2" granite (Rice)

Supervise the filling yourself and make sure no foreign object is used to stuff the Pillar during filling
Plaster and repaint and you will have nothing to worry about in future.


I am saying this based on the picture shown and on the assumption that there are no cracks elsewhere on the building, which might indicate a different problem and solution. undecided

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Excuzeme: 12:08am On Aug 03, 2020
EgunMogaji2:
For those that are building on a budget and came here for a lesson. Please try to roam around the properties section for great historical threads from notable builders like Skimanski, Aventures, KolaShangOne, Darenyx, Spyder880, etc

These guys have selflessly shared their professional system with us so that we can learn.

I have been offered many land that sits near rivers, dry waterbeds, etc that I refused or tried to negotiate to a lower price. I know what it requires to live with water and it's expensive. We've had house collapses on here, we've had sinking houses on here.

The type of foundation is important. Those that are building in Lekki etc and spend millions on foundation are not throwing money away, it's what is required in most cases.

When you're building near water or a storied house then you most definitely need experienced pros that includes a structural engineer, you need soil test, etc.

Good luck on your projects.

Sample pictures from a Skimanski thread. If you're doing a self build and not experienced then these threads from Skimanski and Spyder880 are required readings.

Exactly!
If waterlogged or swampy land is cheap, be aware that the Foundation will take back whatever you saved on cost of land.
But surprisingly, land located near Rivers, Beaches, etc are even more costlier becuase people pay for "the view"!
Building in such places isnot for the "faint pocket" at all and you cant rush the building.
Settlement, Rammering and other things like that have to be taken into consideration and rules followed to the letter.
Once you take the RULES into consideration and dont cut corners, it is not as difficult though it will cost an arm and a leg to overcome some challenges like doing your soakway, in such terrian. grin
How is Madam. undecided

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