₦airaland Forum

FrLukas:
It's an illusion that Nigerians don't pay tax.

Go and buy jollof rice at Chicken Republic and check the receipt they print out for you.

You'll see VAT = Value Added Tax.

Nigerians pay tax on almost everything they buy.

Not to talk of those who work in the civil service, teachers, doctors etc who do PAYE Pay As You Earn, where your tax is deducted from source.

I'm also sure private companies also pay taxes.

Besides, what makes you think that your politicians won't steal your taxes?

Same politicians that were ready to increase the taxes once they saw that oil money wasn't coming in again.

You are very funny.

They'll rob you blind of your taxes and even flaunt it right in your presence and you'll do absolutely NOTHING.

You know why?

The people that will attack you for attacking the politicians are your fellow suffering masses.

Ikennamurphy:
Stop typing like u live in moon.. Even if they embezzle it the citizens are docile to see anything.. With what is Happening in Nigeria they should be a revolt, so will it just take only tax payment to revolt?

Don't be intelligent by half

AristocraticMe:
You wont let it to happen...... i mean you.wont allow it.

AristocraticMe:
YES......................and also this present generation wont meet this mess ..... things would have changed decades ago......... If Nigeria had been doing the right thing from start.

AristocraticMe:
I will try and explain something to you.

VAT is tax but it is not a Direct Tax......... The regular tax is being paid base on your income.. not on your purchase.... so VAT is not TAX.... Tax is the PAYE your mentioned.

When you buy Garri do you pay tax ? No
When you buy bread do you pay tax ? No

Does the woman that own the beauty shop in your area pay tax ? No
Do you pay tax when you visit a barbing salon ? No

So you see.... all this people should pay tax at the end of the year declaring their income and the government tax them base on their income... and they pay...

Simple.

Ikennamurphy:
We pay taxes already.. I pay tax from source including others.. Haven't u worked before? You write like you don't have experience

AristocraticMe:
Please read... i said 60-70% percent... not everybody.... if ALL pay tax like you... and when looking at your pay stub you see the deduction of tax payment..... and then you open the news to see one LG Chairman living large on your money .... no body will tell you to throw that nuisances out of the office.

GamalNasser:
Hi

Stop saying nonsense ..VAT is TAX ..VAT is type of tax and personal income tax is also another type of tax .. infact VAT is a more powerful tax than personal income tax can ever be

AristocraticMe:
In Nigeria it useless...... Do you pay tax when you Garri, Bread, Beans and so on..... how many Nigerians go to Shoprite ? Dont be fooled because you live in Lagos,,,, other state are extremely backward

Ikennamurphy:
Those other ones still pay tax when buying goods because custom already taxed them.. Is that difficult to understand.. No goods isn't taxed in Nigeria

GamalNasser:
Yes when you buy Garri you pay produce tax which is a type of VAT ..when you buy sugar , make calls buy petrol you pay taxes on them

AristocraticMe:
It is hard for people to comprehend how tax works............. it is hard..... those ones are not direct tax or let me put it straight INCOME TAX.

Just because you bought a car from abroad and you pay custom duty is that one tax.... ? it is the law you have to pay custom duty .... That is not tax

AristocraticMe:
VAT is not INCOME TAX............. simple...... Let all Nigerians start to pay income tax. PAYE tax... then change will come.

Ikennamurphy:
You're shifting goal post from Nigerians not paying tax to not paying only income tax.. You're a fraud Mr man

AristocraticMe:
I repeat Nigeria will only change when its citizens start paying tax.... VAT is not a direct TAX. i stand by that.

AristocraticMe:
I will try and explain something to you.

VAT is tax but it is not a Direct Tax......... The regular tax is being paid base on your income.. not on your purchase.... so VAT is not TAX.... Tax is the PAYE your mentioned.

When you buy Garri do you pay tax ? No
When you buy bread do you pay tax ? No

Does the woman that own the beauty shop in your area pay tax ? No
Do you pay tax when you visit a barbing salon ? No

So you see.... all this people should pay tax at the end of the year declaring their income and the government tax them base on their income... and they pay...

Simple.

VAT is tax but it is not a Direct Tax

so VAT is not TAX

AristocraticMe:
VAT is not direct TAX............. simple...... Let all Nigerians start to pay tax. PAYE tax... then change will come.

AristocraticMe:
They dont........... stamp duty, market levy and so on.... all those ones is not direct tax, brother..... Do you have a tax identification number ? All those pay here pay there are all money paid for the impunity and recklessness caused by bad leaders over time.

FrLukas:
I'm not a Constitutional lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that paying of tax exempts some low wage earners.

We prolly would need a Constitutional lawyer to help us out with that.

If your monthly take home pay is less N10,000 would you be expected to pay tax?

Those hawking gala in traffic, are they also expected to pay tax?

By the way, see these two statements by you:





What do you want me to make of them...?

The raw rice and other imported foodstuffs that you buy in the market already carry their own additional import duty.

This is shifted on the end buyer who buys for consumption.

Nigerians pay Tax.

Let me say that again, Nigerians are taxed.

Include the other little deductions that Banks make on behalf of the CBN on your accounts and you'll realize that Nigerians pay way too much to the government without a corresponding return.

Let's assume that you are correct and 60-70% of Nigerians don't pay tax at all.

What have the politicians done with the tax paid by the remaining 30-40% of taxpayers?

What have we done to the politicians?

Mightyodi:
My guy if they looted indirect tax, is it direct tax they won't loot. Let's stop shifting our brains to thinking we should emulate Western world, when our mind-set has no changed. For instance, pension money is with Government, how far? So that go and read an epistle how Eupore or Western world develop, then you will just want to push the gains, and say we should do same, when you have not acknowledge our peculiarity when it comes to on-doing ourselves

AristocraticMe:
I will try and make this very short..... This is an open discussion though.

The reason Nigerians are complacent about the situation of Nigeria is because 60-70% of Nigerians dont pay tax. Why ? Most Nigerians are business people, the higher percentage are the small scale businesses...... How many of them pay tax.... NONE......

If you pay tax and you know that it is your money (tax) a person is embezzling without regards, no body will tell you to protest and revolt. They wont even try it.

That is one thing the developed nation did that we failed to do. We failed to create a system where by everybody contribute to the growth of the country. By so doing you will naturally hold any leader responsible.... You know how hard you work for your money then the government takes some percentage as tax on automatically and then one person embezzles it........ No body will tell you to stand for your right and no leader will try it.

Nigerian just keep shouting OUR MONEY ( What they mean is Oil Money or Money coming from Natural Resources) not money coming from your pocket........ If it is coming from pocket (Income) then the way Nigerian leaders siphon money wont happen like that. They will be scared to do that because they know people will hold them accountable for it.

Most Nigerians are in one social club or the other were we pay monthly dues..... during the end of the year party, the leader should come out and say they bought a crate of soft drink for N10,000 ...... Can they say that ? No..... they know people will revolt and it will cause problem...... Why ? because everybody has a stake in the club's money (it is our money) so naturally corruption will reduce .....

Secondly, people will naturally want to know how the money is spent and make sure it make sense or else the leader of the social club have some explaining to do........

Corruption cannot be eradicated but it can be reduced..

That is why corruption in Developed Nations is not as it is in Africa. Remember there is corruption everywhere but not as bad as Africa or Nigeria

In Nigeria a Leader came out and said her ministry feed children who are out of school with hundreds of million - How ?
In Lagos a Leader said a corona virus patient care cost is 1 Million per day and so on...

No wonder a British Prime Minister once said Nigeria is Stupendiously corrupt.......

Inteltower:
this write up is foolish & valueless

so those small businesses who pay business premises, local govt and eswama aren't taxes right ?

you talk of other nations but fail to point out the roles some of their leaders played to motivate their citizens to pay tax and hold them accountable

just don't know the bird that pooped on your thought to write this

AristocraticMe:
I will try and make this very short..... This is an open discussion though.

The reason Nigerians are complacent about the situation of Nigeria is because 60-70% of Nigerians dont pay tax. Why ? Most Nigerians are business people, the higher percentage are the small scale businesses...... How many of them pay tax.... NONE......

If you pay tax and you know that it is your money (tax) a person is embezzling without regards, no body will tell you to protest and revolt. They wont even try it.

That is one thing the developed nation did that we failed to do. We failed to create a system where by everybody contribute to the growth of the country. By so doing you will naturally hold any leader responsible.... You know how hard you work for your money then the government takes some percentage as tax on automatically and then one person embezzles it........ No body will tell you to stand for your right and no leader will try it.

Nigerian just keep shouting OUR MONEY ( What they mean is Oil Money or Money coming from Natural Resources) not money coming from your pocket........ If it is coming from pocket (Income) then the way Nigerian leaders siphon money wont happen like that. They will be scared to do that because they know people will hold them accountable for it.

Most Nigerians are in one social club or the other were we pay monthly dues..... during the end of the year party, the leader should come out and say they bought a crate of soft drink for N10,000 ...... Can they say that ? No..... they know people will revolt and it will cause problem...... Why ? because everybody has a stake in the club's money (it is our money) so naturally corruption will reduce .....

Secondly, people will naturally want to know how the money is spent and make sure it make sense or else the leader of the social club have some explaining to do........

Corruption cannot be eradicated but it can be reduced..

That is why corruption in Developed Nations is not as it is in Africa. Remember there is corruption everywhere but not as bad as Africa or Nigeria

In Nigeria a Leader came out and said her ministry feed children who are out of school with hundreds of million - How ?
In Lagos a Leader said a corona virus patient care cost is 1 Million per day and so on...

No wonder a British Prime Minister once said Nigeria is Stupendiously corrupt.......

Abohboy:
That’s not the tax he is talking about, in the U.K they have income tax where a specific percentage of all the money you make go to the government, they also have council tax, where a fixed rate is taken from everyone living in thst council and they use that money to build houses roads, schools, hospitals etc, in the U.K they have all of that and more, only 10 million Nigerians pay income tax. Which creates 27 billion dollars for Nigeria if 100 million Nigerians paid tax than Nigeria s budget would by 270-310 billion dollars, but we don’t that’s why Egypt and South Africa have higher budgets than us because their citizens pay income tax more than Nigerians do. And his point is when your money is being stolen by politicians then you will have a Problem, for now it is just the revenue made from resources in the country. So you don’t really care about it.

naijaking1:
The wisest counsel to heal Nigeria's problems.
Our founding fathers were poor students of sociology and psychology, that's why working for government in Nigeria means an opportunity to rob the system (yourself included ) dry.
Whether we pay formal taxes or through VAT, corruptions, ineptitude, embezzlement, etc is a not even the case, the case is that Nigerians, every adult is not taxed in a way for them to take ownership of their own country. Unfortunately, we discovered oil, or what the Venezuelans call devil's grease of corruption, and every thing went from bad to worse.

A fair taxing system will reduce and probably eliminate corruption, because if that 1 billion naira you're going to embezzle came directly off the pockets of your home people who would eagerly waiting for you with sharp objects when you come home to display your ill gotten wealth. But when steal the amount from Abuja oil money and run home to your village, instead of them asking you, "my son, how did you make this money" they fall for the old notion that government is national cake deserving to looted, and that you have indeed gotten their own share. On the contrary, imagine stealing #10,000 contributed by your poor folks at home at #100 a person!

Another benefit of measured taxation is that it will once and for all solve the problem of proper census , and this probably why it will never happen at least under the present dispensation. If every adult in a village pay #1 tax a year, it will automatically help with census estimation and planning.

A formal tax will also reduce the need for many underground levies currently in place of which the corrupt government is going to fail to give a full account of.

AristocraticMe:
I will try and make this very short..... This is an open discussion though.

The reason Nigerians are complacent about the situation of Nigeria is because 60-70% of Nigerians dont pay tax. Why ? Most Nigerians are business people, the higher percentage are the small scale businesses...... How many of them pay tax.... NONE......

If you pay tax and you know that it is your money (tax) a person is embezzling without regards, no body will tell you to protest and revolt. They wont even try it.

That is one thing the developed nation did that we failed to do. We failed to create a system where by everybody contribute to the growth of the country. By so doing you will naturally hold any leader responsible.... You know how hard you work for your money then the government takes some percentage as tax on automatically and then one person embezzles it........ No body will tell you to stand for your right and no leader will try it.

Nigerian just keep shouting OUR MONEY ( What they mean is Oil Money or Money coming from Natural Resources) not money coming from your pocket........ If it is coming from pocket (Income) then the way Nigerian leaders siphon money wont happen like that. They will be scared to do that because they know people will hold them accountable for it.

Most Nigerians are in one social club or the other were we pay monthly dues..... during the end of the year party, the leader should come out and say they bought a crate of soft drink for N10,000 ...... Can they say that ? No..... they know people will revolt and it will cause problem...... Why ? because everybody has a stake in the club's money (it is our money) so naturally corruption will reduce .....

Secondly, people will naturally want to know how the money is spent and make sure it make sense or else the leader of the social club have some explaining to do........

Corruption cannot be eradicated but it can be reduced..

That is why corruption in Developed Nations is not as it is in Africa. Remember there is corruption everywhere but not as bad as Africa or Nigeria

In Nigeria a Leader came out and said her ministry feed children who are out of school with hundreds of million - How ?
In Lagos a Leader said a corona virus patient care cost is 1 Million per day and so on...

No wonder a British Prime Minister once said Nigeria is Stupendiously corrupt.......

ETHIX:
Even if all the citizens pay double tax for 10years, Nigeria will not change. Contract if N10m will be awarded for 700m yet it will not be done.

Billions of naira will be spent from taxpayers money to bribe and rig electronic every 4years.

Monies for developmental projects will be laundered abroad. The little projects done will also be substandard.

Only projects that will fetch politicians money will be embacked upon and not projects that will benefit the masses. E.g 27billion naira to renovate National Assembly another 60billion to fence University of Maiduguri

One of the main purpose of tax payments in developed countries is not only for developmental projects but also to redistribute income. Do you know how much the lower income bracket gets from government every month? The list are endless. There is child tax benefits, Old age pension, AISH, Disability benefits, Social welfare, Unemployment Income also known as EI, GST, HST and many more. A larger percentage of the population gets as high as N300,000 to N500,000 every MONTH (Using Canada as an example)

Tianamen1:
Rotimi Ameachi said why politicians steal is because their people are not stoning them.

The ops argument is that with taxation, our politicians would start getting stoned.

Do you think that if Nigerians were taxed like other people in the world, that Nigerians would not stone their corrupt leaders?

AristocraticMe:
I will try and make this very short..... This is an open discussion though.

The reason Nigerians are complacent about the situation of Nigeria is because 60-70% of Nigerians dont pay tax. Why ? Most Nigerians are business people, the higher percentage are the small scale businesses...... How many of them pay tax.... NONE......

If you pay tax and you know that it is your money (tax) a person is embezzling without regards, no body will tell you to protest and revolt. They wont even try it.

That is one thing the developed nation did that we failed to do. We failed to create a system where by everybody contribute to the growth of the country. By so doing you will naturally hold any leader responsible.... You know how hard you work for your money then the government takes some percentage as tax on automatically and then one person embezzles it........ No body will tell you to stand for your right and no leader will try it.

Nigerian just keep shouting OUR MONEY ( What they mean is Oil Money or Money coming from Natural Resources) not money coming from your pocket........ If it is coming from pocket (Income) then the way Nigerian leaders siphon money wont happen like that. They will be scared to do that because they know people will hold them accountable for it.

Most Nigerians are in one social club or the other were we pay monthly dues..... during the end of the year party, the leader should come out and say they bought a crate of soft drink for N10,000 ...... Can they say that ? No..... they know people will revolt and it will cause problem...... Why ? because everybody has a stake in the club's money (it is our money) so naturally corruption will reduce .....

Secondly, people will naturally want to know how the money is spent and make sure it make sense or else the leader of the social club have some explaining to do........

Corruption cannot be eradicated but it can be reduced..

That is why corruption in Developed Nations is not as it is in Africa. Remember there is corruption everywhere but not as bad as Africa or Nigeria

In Nigeria a Leader came out and said her ministry feed children who are out of school with hundreds of million - How ?
In Lagos a Leader said a corona virus patient care cost is 1 Million per day and so on...

No wonder a British Prime Minister once said Nigeria is Stupendiously corrupt.......