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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stephandesward: 8:59am On Aug 08, 2020
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralMarshall: 9:00am On Aug 08, 2020
Please Case Closed.

There is No fight. Marshall and Tobi have sorted themselves yesternight, as big guys.

However,,, let us Now note the fake people on this thread,,, who are now active because of the fight. I have called them out.... they are the real criminals here.... evil them
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralMarshall: 9:04am On Aug 08, 2020
See them,,,, inactive posters interested in Fight.

@Bennybaba
@Frinka47
@boode
@sconp
@QDubz
@Stephandesward
@theenchanter
@Johneagle96
@Mugiwaraluffy
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralMarshall: 9:04am On Aug 08, 2020
Evil people cheesy
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralMarshall: 9:18am On Aug 08, 2020
To the decent people who came to follow fight; Marshall & Tobi right now

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 9:19am On Aug 08, 2020
How many people dey observe something grin grin grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralMarshall: 9:20am On Aug 08, 2020
To the inactive posters who are posting because of fight, Marshall is giving them

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralMarshall: 9:20am On Aug 08, 2020
Toju200:
How many people dey observe something grin grin grin

Everyone is observing .... o boy, that Marshall dey craze o cheesy
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 9:21am On Aug 08, 2020
Pls Marshall go and sleep stop fooling your self

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralMarshall: 9:23am On Aug 08, 2020
Toju200:
Pls Marshall go and sleep stop fooling your self

Na craze guy.... lol.

You too came to follow fight. Me & Tobi pardon you because you are active on the thread. Yeye pipu.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralMarshall: 9:24am On Aug 08, 2020
CASE CLOSED.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Kalapizim(m): 9:27am On Aug 08, 2020
GeneralMarshall:


Na craze guy.... lol.

You too came to follow fight. Me & Tobi pardon you because you are active on the thread. Yeye pipu.
Don't you get it that we were only trolling the fighters.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralMarshall: 9:30am On Aug 08, 2020
Kalapizim:
Don't you get it that we were only trolling the fighters.

Don't cover your ass bro. All of you who stormed the thread this morning to follow the fight, are not different from the criminal fighters. Fact.

Marshall & Tobi laughed well and closed issues yesterday,,,, while supposedly decent people are here early morning to follow violence. Smh.

I noted all the monikers here since 7.30am.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 9:50am On Aug 08, 2020
Kalapizim:
Don't you get it that we were only trolling the fighters.
GenaralMarshall nai be the same Fieldmarshall wey wan fight Tobiloba2407 o grin
Nigga go create new account yesterday come dey fool himself here dey talk rubbish.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 9:55am On Aug 08, 2020
This is shameful angry

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Texman21: 10:14am On Aug 08, 2020
Whyem15:
This is shameful angry
did you lose your bet?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 11:07am On Aug 08, 2020
Toju200:
GenaralMarshall nai be the same Fieldmarshall wey wan fight Tobiloba2407 o grin
Nigga go create new account yesterday come dey fool himself here dey talk rubbish.

He was scared? grin cheesy grin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralMarshall: 11:18am On Aug 08, 2020
SamuelAnyawu:


He was scared? grin cheesy grin

But some of you can look for trouble sha. And in fact very annoying and trashy. That is the reason I drop all civility here, because one cannot be civil with annoying cretins.

If I was scared or if I backed out,,,, I would be ashamed to be here. That is common sense. Use your head.

Guys,,,, this case is closed... don't start.

So, what is the latest in Sambisa cheesy
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Mugiwaraluffy: 11:52am On Aug 08, 2020
grin grin grin grin
Baba dey fear after en Bleep up.
That's why you should never start what you can't finish.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralMarshall: 12:07pm On Aug 08, 2020
Mugiwaraluffy:
grin grin grin grin
Baba dey fear after en Bleep up.
That's why you should never start what you can't finish.


Yes, I was Scared. Yaaayyyyy

I was scared,,, scared,,,, scared,, grin grin cheesy grin tongue tongue

Inactive poster cum spectator. You came to watch fight cheesy

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by QDubz(m): 12:12pm On Aug 08, 2020
[quote author=GeneralMarshall post=92579645]See strange monikers want to hear about the fight... they never contribute to the thread,,, now for fight, them don dey the page for 30mins.

@Bennybaba
@Frinka47
@boode
@sconp
@QDubz

Been around here since sirus black.
Was here when Henry started this thread.
Been here even before the nairaland hack.
Heck I've been here since beegeagles blog.

I've seen every fight that has happened, lurking from the shadows.
Patches and co......"

I be old timer

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 12:13pm On Aug 08, 2020
GeneralMarshall:


But some of you can look for trouble sha. And in fact very annoying and trashy. That is the reason I drop all civility here, because one cannot be civil with annoying cretins.

If I was scared or if I backed out,,,, I would be ashamed to be here. That is common sense. Use your head.

Guys,,,, this case is closed... don't start.

So, what is the latest in Sambisa cheesy


Nothing much our Brigadier General is leaving so we are in his sendforth meeting cool Party things
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 12:14pm On Aug 08, 2020
GeneralMarshall:
See strange monikers want to hear about the fight... they never contribute to the thread,,, now for fight, them don dey the page for 30mins.

@Bennybaba
@Frinka47
@boode
@sconp
@QDubz





grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralMarshall: 12:26pm On Aug 08, 2020
SamuelAnyawu:



Nothing much our Brigadier General is leaving so we are in his sendforth meeting cool Party things

Thank you jare. Continue your good works giving us useful info on our gallant armes forces smiley.

Meanwhile,, let us expel all these uselesss monikers who suddenly started posting yesterday and this morning. Dem come watch fight. Criminal spectators . Na dem be the evil people here cheesy

Meanwhile, Tobi would rejoin us soon after his ban cheesy
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 12:46pm On Aug 08, 2020
GeneralFarouq:
You would make a good movie director.
cheesy
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 12:48pm On Aug 08, 2020
JohnEagle96:
Ibadan peeps, which area will be ideal for the fight btw Lekan Salami or liberty stadium
Lekan Salami. Area cool these days grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 12:51pm On Aug 08, 2020
Toju200:
How many people dey observe something grin grin grin
I no talk am say e go later end in "Oga I no know say na you" grin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Kalapizim(m): 1:10pm On Aug 08, 2020
Toju200:
GenaralMarshall nai be the same Fieldmarshall wey wan fight Tobiloba2407 o grin
Nigga go create new account yesterday come dey fool himself here dey talk rubbish.
lol chai na wa o grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 1:12pm On Aug 08, 2020
By SAHEED SALAWUOn Aug 8, 2020

Former Osun State governor, Prince Olagunsoye Oyinlola, is a retired Brigadier General. In this interview by Tribune’s SAHEED SALAWU speaks, among other issues, on the various security problems confronting the country and what can be done to defeat Nigeria’s enemies. Excerpts:

You appear to have been quiet; you have not been seen doing much of politics lately. Where have you been?

I have not been quiet. I have been involved in every form of politicking that has to do with this country. Let me tell you: it is not at all parades and drills that soldiers do shout. There are those drills that we call silent drills. That is what I am doing now. I am doing silent drills (laughter)

Before the 2015 general election, you were reported to have gone to Minna, Niger State, with General Muhammadu Buhari, who was the candidate of the All Progressives Congress (APC) at that time, for a meeting. Can you recall how the meeting was arranged and what was discussed at the meeting?

It was the current Minister of Aviation, Hadi Sirika, who called me and said that General Buhari would like to have some discussion with General Ibrahim Babangida and I should facilitate an appointment. I got in touch with General Babangida and he gave us a date. We flew together from Abuja to Minna. When we got there, they had a closed-door tete-a-tete, which I was not privy to. After their discussion, we had lunch together.

While we were having lunch, I recall that General Babangida was telling General Buhari that I used to be one of his very stubborn students at the Nigeria Defence Academy. But I cut in and said, ‘I may have been a stubborn student but that made me a very good commander under General Buhari. We all laughed. I was the one commanding 211 Tank Battalion, Bama, and I had about three tours of duty along the Nigeria/Chad border during the Chad crisis that led to the undeclared fighting between Nigeria and Chad. What caused that was the fact that the Chadians erected their national flag on our soil, and my GOC (Buhari) ordered that we should go and put the Nigerian flag three kilometers into the Chadian territory. We did exactly that. That was 1981/1982. That was when the diplomatic moves started. The operation led to prisoners being taken on both sides. They seized 17 of our men. We took about 400 Chadian soldiers prisoner. Then President Shehu Shagari intervened. He ordered that the 400 prisoners with us be released to Chad before we got our own 17 men back. The command felt that that seemed absurd; my GOC would not want to approach the resolution in that manner.

The country appears to be in a security mess. From what you have said, you operated in that axis for a long time.

Yes, I was at various times battalion commander, brigade commander and later the acting GOC of that sector.

What could be the problem of the military there now that is making it difficult for the country to overcome its security challenges?

So many factors could be responsible. The number one factor is lack of intelligence network. There is nothing wrong in inundating that axis with our intelligence resources, from personnel to equipment, for the purpose of getting to know those who are supporting or sponsoring these people. It costs a lot to get an AK 47 rifle or to make an improvised explosive device. The people using them are not the ones funding themselves. So, if you don’t cut the source of support, the thing will continue to flourish. The basic thing I know is that intelligence is the greatest asset a force needs to defeat an enemy. When you have information, you will be able to know what to do. That is an area I think they ought to have looked into. And there are so many ways to deploy these boys. If it means making our intelligence people rear cattle there to get information, why not?

The second issue is that they’ve not given them the required equipment. I heard one time that they were counting bullets for soldiers to go and face the insurgents. I could not confirm this but it became a public story. I hope it is not true. They should be able to give them as much ammunition as they can fire at as many insurgents they are confronting. It is a war the boys are fighting, they should be adequately armed and equipped.

Was that the situation when you were in the army?

When I was in the army, there was what we called table of equipment. Table of equipment, by standard, can’t be below 80 per cent scale before you move out into operation. I am not too sure whether there is anything like that now.

What is 80 per cent scale of equipment?

It means if you are supposed to have 100 rifles, they can’t be less than 80 in your hand before you launch out. That is the minimum you can go with. There is a certain standard. What you require to go into operation must be there. That is the minimum. The number of men, ammunition, the rifles you are supposed to have, the explosives, the vehicle support… everything must be there, in the table of equipment. I’m not sure anybody follows that anymore.

I recall when I was taking the troops to Somalia in 1993. I had General Salihu Ibrahim as my Chief of Army Staff. That operation, Operation Restore Hope, was an initiative of the Americans, which means we were going into the operation with American soldiers. The Americans were to airlift us from Nigeria to Somalia. But I made my Chief of Army Staff understand that I had not reached the scale level with which I could move into operation because I was deficient of the required number of machine guns, grenade launchers and so on. And he made sure that I got to the scale before I was airlifted to Somalia. In fact, I had to contact an American captain at their embassy. I said, ‘If anybody tells you to come and airlift us, you may have to wait for us until I say we are ready’. And that was exactly what happened. The uniforms, the boots, everything was at the scale level because that was the standing order before we were airlifted to Somalia. Now, I don’t think they even follow any scale of equipment.

What could make them not to follow it? Is it the kind of training they now get or what?

They have the training. That is where the command comes in. If the commander is not up and doing in his duties, this kind of thing would happen. I recall that soldiers, in Somalia, were the darling of all other forces because they were very up and doing, because they lacked nothing. Another thing, which looks little but has maximum effect in the context of operation, is the morale situation of the forces. If morale is low, you can’t get the best out of a man. And the morale would be low by not giving him adequate equipment to execute his assignment and if his career growth is hampered by the system. Those are some of the factors that lower morale. I’m not too sure this is the same General Buhari whom I served under condoning this. I’m not sure he would accept this kind of situation when he was in service. Everybody is well-trained. We all had the same training. Those coming behind may even have fresh and better ideas. That is why you have a soldier telling the Chief of Army Staff that ‘to hell with you’. It has never happened before. That is why you see soldiers running away from Boko Haram. It is never done. Because of the way we performed in that Somalia operation, former Chief of Army Staff, the late General Victor Malu, when years later, they said Americans would come and train us on peacekeeping, he told everybody that ‘look, if it is peacekeeping, ask them to give us equipment. If you don’t know the competence of our soldiers, call Oyinlola and let him tell you what happened in Somalia. And that is a fact. Our soldiers distinguished themselves in that operation. They outshined other forces. If it is equipment, let them give us equipment, but the training is there’. Presently, if you see a soldier kitted, you wouldn’t know the difference between him and vigilante, whereas when you are battle-ready and kitted, you would know this is a soldier going to war. I no longer see that old order when troops are moving into battle: everything had to be there. A soldier had to have grenades; he had to carry four extra magazines, apart from the one he was mounting on his rifle.

When General Salihu Ibrahim was retiring, he said the Nigerian Army had become an army of ‘anything goes’. That was about 30 years ago…

Maybe he was seeing a vision then, because the situation has worsened. It is sad.

Is it not possible for you and your colleagues who are outside the system to advise those who are there?

What I am saying right now will not be viewed with a professional eye. Anybody reading this will say, ‘what do you expect of Oyinlola? He is in the opposition’. But I am speaking from a professional point of view, given my 30 years experience there. So, it will be difficult for me to mobilise my colleagues and say let’s go and advise them, a PDP man? It will be viewed from a political point of view; they won’t look at the professional way in which I am explaining things. I don’t see anything wrong in taking counsel from those who have served in that area. I know the Nigerian North East terrain from Doro, which is next to Baga, to Kinasara, which is the last village on our own side of the 25 per cent of Lake Chad. I stayed in every village along that side until Kinasara. It is a vast place, and that is why every time there is a change of government in Chad, they start rebellion in that area and then when they flush out the sitting government, the defeated government moves into the Lake Chad area to regroup and for retraining. It is a difficult terrain.



We understand you are a farmer with farms in Borno State.

I have 200 hectares of farmland in Auno, a village close to Maiduguri, Borno State, which I cultivated every year. But since the insurrection of the Boko Haram, I have not been able to farm that land. That is 11 years now, since 2009. I always planted millet and, particularly, red beans. Averagely, I harvested 200 bags of red beans there every year. For 11 years, I have not been to that farm. The farm is still there. My farm manager is one of my colleagues that retired from the army, a Colonel. He is still there in Maiduguri. He told me when we discussed a few days ago that the trees that have grown on that farm now would be good enough to make planks.


https://tribuneonlineng.com/how-we-took-400-chadians-prisoner-under-buhari-as-goc-oyinlola/

You can click on the link for the full article. I only post the ones that have to do with security issues.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralMarshall: 1:14pm On Aug 08, 2020
Kalapizim:
lol chai na wa o grin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Kalapizim(m): 1:14pm On Aug 08, 2020
SamuelAnyawu:



Nothing much our Brigadier General is leaving so we are in his sendforth meeting cool Party things
A lot of movement this last week, it's good for the men who have been fighting for years there.

But I worry about incoming boots, inexperienced ones especially.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by demolition: 1:28pm On Aug 08, 2020
GeneralMarshall:


Thank you jare. Continue your good works giving us useful info on our gallant armes forces smiley.

Meanwhile,, let us expel all these uselesss monikers who suddenly started posting yesterday and this morning. Dem come watch fight. Criminal spectators . Na dem be the evil people here cheesy

Meanwhile, Tobi would rejoin us soon after his ban cheesy

Moral of the story is, always resist the urge to shalaye.
As you go about your daily interactions online even in a faceless forum.
You leave crumbs behind.
Now this crumbs if carefully picked together can give a partial description of you and your location.
That alone is enough for anyone who knows how to play their cards right to zero you down and clamp your a*s.
Don't go about threatening people because it's a faceless forum
You just might hit the jackpot

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