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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:07pm On Aug 08, 2020
So its not God who let him win in 2016
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by salford1: 7:07pm On Aug 08, 2020
basilico:
The Brazil President took HCL plus zinc yo tirn from positive to negative.
Because you were his doctor.
Second to the US in number of deaths.
Trump and Trump-Lite are a mess.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:10pm On Aug 08, 2020
salford1:
Because you were his doctor. Second to the US in number of deaths. Trump and Trump-Lite are a mess.
Would you take HCL if you contracted covid?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by salford1: 7:11pm On Aug 08, 2020
basilico:
So its not God who let him win in 2016
cheesy grin grin
Same way God made African dictators win elections. Even Hitler was elected by God according to you.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Bluebyrd: 7:13pm On Aug 08, 2020
SonofLincoln:
Does it bother you when they call me names Mr Umpire ?.
If you want to be truthful to yourself, you know most of the people attacking you do so in retaliation against you for attacking them first. Even me that have tried so much to avoid all this childish nonsense you do here, I know how many times I have been tempted to return some insulting words to you because that's all you do, insulting people. When the person ignores your insults and tries to be the better person, you see it as a sign of weakness and keep attacking them until they either start insulting you back or leave the thread. Sharon1 hasn't even been here for one day before you started insulting her, the same thing you did to me and sexylassie2. I have learnt to ignore you but those that can't ignore your insults are the ones returning the same bad manners to you. This thread will have a better atmosphere the day you stop your attitude of always insulting people.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by salford1: 7:13pm On Aug 08, 2020
basilico:
Would you take HCL if you contracted covid?
Sorry. We don't do HCQ for covid in Canada. Even if my doctor prescribed it, my pharmacist would never dispense it....so, what's the point.
Anyway, we don't wanna be like Brazil.
We are doing very well without HCQ.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:13pm On Aug 08, 2020
salford1:
cheesy grin grin
Same way God made African dictators win elections. Even Hitler was elected by God according to you.
How do you say God cannot let? No one knows God's will and intentions beforehand.

But we all know liberals want to cancel religion
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by salford1: 7:15pm On Aug 08, 2020
basilico:
How do you say God cannot let? No one knows God's will and intentions beforehand.

But we all know liberals want to cancel religion
Lol. It's now about cancelling religion. Smh.
Can anyone cancel religion?
If this was so, Christianity would have been cancelled centuries ago.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:16pm On Aug 08, 2020
salford1:
Sorry. We don't do HCQ for covid in Canada. Even if my doctor prescribed it, my pharmacist would never dispense it....
We don't wanna be like Brazil.
We are doing very well without HCQ.
There are many ways to kill a rat. Faith also heals too.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by salford1: 7:17pm On Aug 08, 2020
basilico:
There are many ways to kill a rat. Faith also heals too.
Okay. Tired of the back and forth.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by SonofLincoln: 7:19pm On Aug 08, 2020
Bluebyrd:
If you want to be truthful to yourself, you know most of the people attacking you do so in retaliation against you for attacking them first. Even me that have tried so much to avoid all this childish nonsense you do here, I know how many times I have been tempted to return some insulting words to you because that's all you do, insulting people. When the person ignores your insults and tries to be the better person, you see it as a sign of weakness and keep attacking them until they either start insulting you back or leave the thread. Sharon1 hasn't even been here for one day before you started insulting her, the same thing you did to me and sexylassie2. I have learnt to ignore you but those that can't ignore your insults are the ones returning the same bad manners to you. This thread will have a better atmosphere the day you stop your attitude of always insulting people.
Thanks for your advise but you need to extend your advice to your friends. Anything I say is as the result of what I got from you guys. Like I said, it's real life to some of us what's going on under Trump but to a lot of you guys, it's a joke or something else. Walk a mile in my shoes and feel how it pinches. I do not want a dictator like the ones you have in Nigeria in my neck of the wood. What do you say to your friends that will use their local dialects to call me ugly names?. I even heard one couple years ago telling me in Yoruba that all my children will die before me. I didn't see you as an Umpire to call him out. So worry about your end and your friends. A gutsy man won't call people names in a language they can't understand.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 7:24pm On Aug 08, 2020
salford1:
This HCQ has been overflogged. It's like flogging a dead horse.
Brazil uses HCQ, yet it's at 100,000 Covid related deaths. I won't discuss about it anymore.
I think HCQ is meant to work by increasing deaths. Its like poison to kill people. The more people died, the more effective HCQ has been. At least that's how I see their reasoning.

Perhaps the plan is to give it to Democrats to reduce opposition voters.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 7:30pm On Aug 08, 2020
salford1:
An interesting unbiased article:
Trump and his bandwagon of fellow American conservatives that thinks like him dropped the ball big time.


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/editorials/article-american-conservatives-ramped-up-covid-19-canadian-conservatives/
Go away jor! Just take the Trumphcq and maga! grin


Seriously, how do they manage to ignore all this and think they are sensible or that everyone is as stupid as they are? huh Its like satan disguising as God!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Blackfriday:
basilico:
Biden has said to blacks that They aint blek if they dont vote for him

He also questioned this black reporter who questioned him about his cognitive tests whether he was a junkie ( in other words are you out of your mind)

He also said that latinas think diversely but all blacks think the same.

If Trump had said this there would have been nonstop 24/7 calls for him to be lynched
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by salford1: 7:50pm On Aug 08, 2020
budaatum:
Go away jor! Just take the Trumphcq and maga! grin


Seriously, how do they manage to ignore all this and think they are sensible or that everyone is as stupid as they are? huh Its like satan disguising as God!
The way trumptards tout HCQ, you would think it's vitamin C or Vitamin D or a wonder drug for covid.
The demon sperm doc even wants people to be placed on HCQ as prophylaxis. Can you imagine grin

I am suprised Trump hasn't replaced Birx and Fauci with Demon sperm and Dr Gold respectively. Trump may be dumb, but he is not all that stupid.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Mintum: 7:51pm On Aug 08, 2020
budaatum:
The people travelling from China at the time were mainly Americans and the ban did not affect their travel. But even while he was banning China he was still claiming US had escaped corona, and we all can see how comical that claim was. In fact, apart from banning travel from China, I can't really see he did anything else!
All of you leftists are hypocrites. This is what all of you were saying when he decided to be proactive and ban travel from China and Europe.

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/11/21175987/trump-travel-ban-europe-coronavirus-speech
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by salford1: 7:59pm On Aug 08, 2020
budaatum:
The major thing Trump did with regard to coronavirus was ban flights from China, which we are now finding out was ineffective since the virus found other routes. Even then, he failed to acknowledge this could get very very bad even when all the evidence indicated it would be very bad!

Do you live in America, basilico? I don't, but if I did, I just can't see how I could vote for trump on his coronavirus record if nothing else, but then, I'm liberal, I suppose. Not the America's Right definition of Liberal, but as properly defined, and to us trump just sounds like Mussolini.
By the time the ban were put in place, there was already community transmission in the US which Trump has very much badly managed unlike other western countries that are doing a good job in flattening the curve.

This is not even a liberals vs conservatives scenario as seen in the Canada article I earlier referenced. It's about incompetence and bad leadership. The injecting disinfectant, the hoax, the anti-mask, the false news, the lies, the virus will dissapear e.t.c it all boils down to bad leadership.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by OjoMadiba: 7:14am On Aug 09, 2020
onyemaair:
Amen! All these satanists will be prevailed upon. God has paved the way for trump's reelection. No demonic forces shall stop what God has put in place.
Amen.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by OjoMadiba: 7:15am On Aug 09, 2020
SonofLincoln:
Another piglet, come over to US and vote. The only way the Racist Pig will win is for the piglets on Nairaland to come to US and vote for him. If any of you can, I will vote for the Orange Pig myself.
useless vote
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by OjoMadiba: 7:22am On Aug 09, 2020
salford1:
[s]Trump is an abormimation to real christians. He does things the Bible tells us not to do. Please disregard those charlatans.[/s]
Lies.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by OjoMadiba: 7:27am On Aug 09, 2020
salford1:
Because you were his doctor.
Second to the US in number of deaths.
Trump and Trump-Lite are a mess.
So we're the doctor who said HCQ does not work. Look, it's glaring that politics is been played with the lives of people, HCQ works.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AbdulSleeky: 7:28am On Aug 09, 2020
OjoMadiba:
Lies.
Why not address the truth?

Are you not a Christian?

Why are you running away from the fact that trump is an adulterer, a serial liar and a thief that was caught stealing from his children's charity.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Mikora: 7:31am On Aug 09, 2020
AbdulSleeky:
Why not address the truth?

Are you not a Christian?

Why are you running away from the fact that trump is an adulterer, a serial liar and a thief that was caught stealing from his children's charity.
And Joe Biden is a saint? Even you that is talking, you are a saint right?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by OjoMadiba: 7:32am On Aug 09, 2020
budaatum:
I think HCQ is meant to work by increasing deaths. Its like poison to kill people. The more people died, the more effective HCQ has been. At least that's how I see their reasoning.

Perhaps the plan is to give it to Democrats to reduce opposition voters.
lol, see reasoning, perception tho.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by OjoMadiba: 7:36am On Aug 09, 2020
AbdulSleeky:
Why not address the truth?

Are you not a Christian?

Why are you running away from the fact that trump is an adulterer, a serial liar and a thief that was caught stealing from his children's charity.
if you are without sin, then you can condemn the president, I'm sure you one time did some bad stuffs(still doing) and yet God forgave you & still will forgive you.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Goodvibes007: 7:37am On Aug 09, 2020
First it was the ACA (in the middle of a pandemic), now he is after SS and MC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZzRj_yNh5k
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
AbdulSleeky:
Why not address the truth?

Are you not a Christian?

Why are you running away from the fact that trump is an adulterer, a serial liar and a thief that was caught stealing from his children's charity.
My understanding of the charity was that one when all the money from donors is summed up The foundation gave way more than it recieved from donors, meaning Trump topped up the rest.
One charge was that he raised money from veterans then gave his campaign committee leeway to disburse the funds to the intended recipients. He contributed 1m if I remember. He was accused by the obama DA of illegally using the money for campaign purposes which I think everybody does for publicity. On the matter of stealing, you are lying and you even mentioned the wrong charity.

I distrust factcheck.org but since you brought it up here is their take on Trump and charity contribution

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/11/posts-falsely-claim-trump-stole-from-vets/

I mean those who spoke at John Lewis funeral could as well have been illegally using the funeral for political purposes .
Or those rioters at Portland can as well be accused of an indirect political campaign because their actions are helping trump.
Or the media constant 24/7 anti Trump lies on say Covington saga is an indirect political campaign,... hehehehe they are paying top dollar for that debacle.

Do an unbiased research into Clinton Foundation.
Include 145m from Rosatom the behemoth Russian energy company that gave Clinton that cash after they were allowed to buy 20% of America uranium production capacity . Rosatom bought the rights from a Canadian Frank Giustra who is Clinton Foundation top donor. Giustra took a flight with Bill Clinton to Azerbaijan and got to own uranium mines there. Its a long story, should that corruption concern you, will take you some time . Bill later got paid 500k for a speech in Moscow while the deal was going on. I have yet to conclude that Clinton Foundation was ever audited.
Yet all we hear is Trump Russia

If you want more about Hillary, find out what percentage of visitors to her office while she was secretary of state ended up donating to her foundation. Might shock you but almost 100% of her state visitors ended up donating to her foundation.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 9:16am On Aug 09, 2020
salford1:
Trump is an abormimation to real christians. He does things the Bible tells us not to do. Please disregard those charlatans.
One of Trump's Evangelicals:

Liberty University's Jerry Falwell Jr. taking leave of absence

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rep-walker-calls-for-falwells-resignation-from-liberty-university

Jerry Falwell Jr. has agreed to take an indefinite leave of absence from his role as president and chancellor of Liberty University, the school announced Friday.

Falwell is a key figure in the evangelical Christian community, and helped garner support for President Trump during his campaign.

The Liberty University president has apologized for the photo, but said that it was all in good fun.

“I’ve apologized to everybody,” Falwell said in an interview this week with a local radio station located in Lynchburg, Va.

Falwell said that the woman in the photo was his “wife’s assistant” who was on the trip with them.

“She’s pregnant, so she couldn’t get her pants up,” he said in the interview. “And I had on pair of jeans that I hadn’t worn in a long time so I couldn’t get mine zipped either. And so I just put my belly out like hers.”

The photo has been deleted, but critics have deemed Falwell a hypocrite, citing the Christian university 's rules of conduct, which require “modest” attire for students while on campus.

“If you're running the largest Christian university in America maybe don't put photos of yourself on social media with your pants undone on a yacht - with random women in bad wigs,” Meghan McCain tweeted this week.

“So gross, so hypocritical.”
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by donjazet(m): 11:31am On Aug 09, 2020
DissTroy:
I support ideas and not necessarily people. It's just coincidental that Trump embodies some of those ideas. As a person, he's not one I can call a role model but as a president, he's been awesome.
Obama on an individual level is a great person but as a political leader, I am against him for obvious reasons which are in the public, namely bhis actics while in and out of office as POTUS.
Fela as an idea was great and everything he embodies/embodied but as a person - an individual- nobody should live the kind of life he lived.
Jonathan was a wonderful person but a weak leader.
Buhari, regardless of how you look at him, isn't a the worst person in the political circle but he's a bad leader.
Putin says the darnest things but he's a great political leader.
Theresa May is forgettable as a person and she's a weak leader.

I like Trump's policies. I'm more of an Independent who slightly leans to the right. It's why I can call out people like Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk when they go overboard, even though they are pro-Trump.

When you rein in your emotions, you can look at issues from several perspectives. Cage your emotions and act rationally to truly understand politics at any level.
When you understand this, you wouldn't even take seeming political betrayals personally 'cause you'd be focused on understanding the rationality behind it.
after all these shalaye, you still did not answer my question.

What is your political ideology?
Are you a liberal or a conservative?

What are your stances on issues like;
Immigration, LGBT rights, abortion, government regulations on big businesses?

Liberals by definition are always open to challenging their knowledge and accepting new ideas while conservatives by definition wish to conserve the traditional way of life.
So what exactly is your political ideology?
No need for the political dilly-dallying. Which party espouses your ideology more?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 11:42am On Aug 09, 2020
feedthenation:
"I had on pair of jeans that I hadn’t worn in a long time so I couldn’t get mine zipped either. And so I just put my belly out like hers.”

The photo has been deleted, but critics have deemed Falwell a hypocrite, citing the Christian university 's rules of conduct, which require “modest” attire for students while on campus.
I believe him. The thing in his pants had grown since he last wore those pants.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by donjazet(m): 11:48am On Aug 09, 2020
@distroy, you have asked me why I'm supporting Biden.

My answer is this, many democratic system usually leaves you with imperfect choices, it's left for you to choose the better of those imperfect choices.
Your silence or inability to choose the better of those would most likely result in the worst being chosen.

I have looked at Biden and i have looked at Trump, choosing one between the two should be a no brainer.

Biden is a more decent, empathetic and rational choice than trump, especially in these perilous times.

Trump on the other hand is a demagogue who feeds on people's fear and insecurities. He constantly lies and misrepresents facts. He has shown himself to be a very terrible human being who lacks the decency and emphaty required to be a leader, more so of a great nation.

Between Biden and Trump, the choice should be obvious to any decent and rational human being.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Minent: 11:51am On Aug 09, 2020
donjazet:
after all these shalaye, you still did not answer my question.

What is your political ideology?
Are you a liberal or a conservative?

What are your stances on issues like;
Immigration, LGBT rights, abortion, government regulations on big businesses?

Liberals by definition are always open to challenging their knowledge and accepting new ideas while conservatives by definition wish to conserve the traditional way of life.
So what exactly is your political ideology?
No need for the political dilly-dallying. Which party espouses your ideology more?
I think DissTroy is more of a centrist.
They watch and observe
They don't use emotions in making decisions
They are the people both the liberal and conservative are trying to win in orther to gain more vote.

JUST MY OBSERVATION.
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