Minent:


I think DissTroy is more of a centrist.
They watch and observe
They don't use emotions in making decisions
They are the people both the liberal and conservative are trying to win in orther to gain more vote.

JUST MY OBSERVATION.

donjazet:


It is not about using emotions, it's about having your own personal convictions and ideology. Someone who is incapable of making decisions and always staying on the fence is a confusionist. The person is confused.

A conservative will not want gay people to legally recognized because he doesn't think it is right, a conviction that most likely stems from his religious book, while a liberal would open to recognizing the liberty of a gay individual seeing as the individual(s) is still a person who deserves his fundamental basic rights irrespective of his sexual orientation.

A conservative would strictly be against abortion because his religious mind cannot tolerate such.
But a liberal would be open to questioning where "life" begins and most importantly the mother always having a legal "choice" if to keep her pregnancy or not, considering that it's her own body.

Minent:


Please where did you get this definition? .. I need to see it.

Also, what about a person who choose to be observant and wary about political ideologies thrown to the public?
What about a person who choose not to follow the crowd but instead create his/her tradition.
Are they confusionist?

Mikora:

And Joe Biden is a saint? Even you that is talking, you are a saint right?

donjazet:


If you can't form personal convictions and ideologies, it means your decision making ability is suspect.

When you are presented with a narrative you look at both sides of the argument and make a decision based on logical reasoning. That's how you get to make a sound judgement.

Minent:

Even though you haven't answer my previous bolded.
Lets continue

This is politics and the waves changes with time.
The US politics in the 70's is different from now.
Obama during his 1st presidential campaign induces more of Christian values and he was even in support of border but with time things flipped.
So with the current wave of the current president, do you think the observing centrists are confusionist because they choose not to be one sided with the politics.

budaatum:

I believe him. The thing in his pants had grown since he last wore those pants.

donjazet:


When you use the word, you also subscribe to a political ideology "thrown at you" according to you. A centrist still falls within my purview of someone who finds it difficult to make decisions because you will most likely end up eventually making decisions based on populist ideas.

For instance, that Donald Trump is now the president is because of these so called "centrists". They chose to overlook the very obvious terrible sides of this vile man and we're easily swayed by his demagoguery.
it is often said, if your mind is not made up 2 months before an election, don't bother voting.

OjoMadiba:
So we're the doctor who said HCQ does not work. Look, it's glaring that politics is been played with the lives of people, HCQ works.

wirinet:

Can you, Dr. President Trump and Dr. Demon sperm explain how chloroquine works. I mean the mechanism with which it kills coronavirus. Will the chloroquine work in isolation or has to be administered with azithromycin and zinc before it can work? Can it work with only azithromycin or only zinc. What's the work of azithromycin and zinc in the cocktail?

Where can we see studies on the effectiveness of either in combinations or singly, how these compounds kill this particular coronavirus or any other coronaviruses.

donjazet:


When you use the word, you also subscribe to a political ideology "thrown at you" according to you. A centrist still falls within my purview of someone who finds it difficult to make decisions because you will most likely end up eventually making decisions based on populist ideas.

donjazet:
For instance, that Donald Trump is now the president is because of these so called "centrists".

Minent:


The bolded is so misleading, don't you think things can change even a month to the election?
For example a scandal can surface and proven true or what if a document or video or voice call surface that shows a candidate actually working against the system let's say with Russia.
Let's not mention a debate one month to the election... Just saying.
Also, can you give me your source on definition of confusionist cuz I think it's also misleading.

donjazet:
@distroy, you have asked me why I'm supporting Biden.

My answer is this, many democratic system usually leaves you with imperfect choices, it's left for you to choose the better of those imperfect choices.
Your silence or inability to choose the better of those would most likely result in the worst being chosen.

I have looked at Biden and i have looked at Trump, choosing one between the two should be a no brainer.

Biden is a more decent, empathetic and rational choice than trump, especially in these perilous times.

Trump on the other hand is a demagogue who feeds on people's fear and insecurities. He constantly lies and misrepresents facts. He has shown himself to be a very terrible human being who lacks the decency and emphaty required to be a leader, more so of a great nation.

Between Biden and Trump, the choice should be obvious to any decent and rational human being.

budaatum:

I agree. I for instance think Comey's investigation of Hillary two weeks befor the 2016 election lost her many votes.

basilico:

Comey did not lose her many votes. He was forced by the contents of Weiner's laptop that had tens of thousands of her emails.
Some detectives unofficially said they threw up.

Comey had to, else the contents would have leaked.
We might hopefully know what else was in that laptop and who was involved.

basilico:

liberalism is a mental disease.

budaatum:

I feel you are struggling with honesty, basilico. The little of it you hold on to still keeps me respecting you, despite you insulting my intelligence.

See how you admit Comey lost Hillary some votes but not many, despite there being no way to measure how many votes you admit Comey did lose her. Then you bring up reasons for Comey's actions, forced, and justified or not, that you admit did lose Hillary some, but not "many votes".

O, how I wish you could credit me with a brain inside my head. I am sure there is hope for us yet.

budaatum:
Brazil's incompetent Mr Trump!

Minent:


I think DissTroy is more of a centrist.
They watch and observe
They don't use emotions in making decisions
They are the people both the liberal and conservative are trying to win in orther to gain more vote.

JUST MY OBSERVATION.

basilico:


liberalism is a mental disease.

basilico:

If the media was honest Hillary would have not even been in the running.
She had committed crimes that would have landed anybody else but her in jail but the
fbi and media downplayed it all. Hillary was given a pass, the circumstances behind that laptop could not let FBI cover it up, though Comey still said they found no classified emails .. like 4 people went through 600k emails in less than 2 weeks.
She was literally being forced down the throats of America. Turned out there was a greater good force in play to prevent that from happening.

basilico:
Liberalism is a mental disease in that no matter how crooked a person like Clinton is, the liberals will never seek to find out why. Its like being blinded by hatred of one view .
For instance Obama was no saint, he got away with scandals because to question him was racist. He plus Biden say he ran a scandal free admin, Not a single liberal in the media dare ask him about Benghazi, Egypt, Syria or Iran.
Or the main purpose of the Climate change deal which really was a wealth redistribution agenda.
We can talk about that later.
Liberals as they were yeara ago adaptive to change. Today Orange man bad is like a cult belief.

basilico:


One is a gun the other one is the bullet.

budaatum:

This might work as an explanation in conspiracy world amongst people who like believing the crap they cook up in their heads, but not in the factual world.

You are presenting conspiracies with no evidence whatsoever to back up your claim and have not given a definition of liberalism, which is all I asked for.

Please be aware that I ask because I pressume you are sufficiently intelligent to know that the meaning of words matter, and be warned that failure to provide a definition will be construed as an indication of ignorance which you have failed to disguise with unproven conspiracies with the hope that I am not intelligent enough to see that is what you are doing despite your very glaring uninformed claim about climate change, amongst others.

basilico:


The process of subduing him led to his death.
Again he had too much drugs in his system that before being subdued he was already saying he could not breath while standing.
What did the autopsy say caused his death?

Granted the riots that ensued since seem to have been well thought out and planned And some have nothing to do with George Floyd. Why burn a church in DC, burn a pig placed on a flag and also burn bibles placed on the flag?

My opinion is that a lot of issues are being exaggerated to the maximum in order to ensure Trump is removed from office. And I also opine that leftists are being used by people involved in high crimes like child abuse, spygate, ukraine plunder and so on.
The attacks on Trump have been unrelenting and are building up to a climax. Deutche Bank has been forced to reveal his dealings with him now.

Before the elections Im sure more schemes will be rolled out.

budaatum:

This might work as an explanation in conspiracy world amongst people who like believing the crap they cook up in their heads, but not in the factual world.

If the media and the FBI were doing what you claim they would easily have conspired to stop Comey investigating two weeks to the elections, and intelligent people would wonder how that can be part of your so called "She was literally being forced down the throats of America", unless you'd like to add that they were so stupid and ignorant not to see how that was shooting their own chances.


You are presenting conspiracies with no evidence whatsoever to back up your claim and have not given a definition of liberalism, which is all I asked for.

Please be aware that I ask because I pressume you are sufficiently intelligent to know that the meaning of words matter, and be warned that failure to provide a definition will be construed as an indication of ignorance which you have failed to disguise with unproven conspiracies with the hope that I am not intelligent enough to see that is what you are doing despite your very glaring uninformed claim about climate change, amongst others.

salford1:

You are just knowing him for who he is.

basilico:

The autopsy of George Floyd death in link below

Im not a medic but it seems he he had no trauma injury to his neckbones. And he had some (lethal??) amount of fentanyl in his system.

Any medic who can explain to us in laymans langauge as to what was the real cause of death?


https://www.scribd.com/document/464279280/Autopsy-of-George-Floyd#from_embed

basilico:

The truth to let me admit liberals is what they believe in. An alternate view is criticised, denigrated and dismissed as inconsequential.

But Baden said the further testing wouldn't reveal evidence of compressive pressure on Floyd's neck and back since the pressure would have been released when it was no longer applied. He said large areas of scrapes and abrasions on Floyd's face indicated the force that was used to press him into the ground.

Baden also said that he could find no underlying conditions that contributed to Floyd's death, saying he was in good health. In a criminal complaint, Hennepin County prosecutors said Chauvin "had his knee on Mr. Floyd's neck for eight minutes and 46 seconds. Two minutes and 53 seconds of this was after Mr. Floyd was "non-responsive." Crump said Floyd's death was the result of that sustained pressure to his neck and the pressure on Floyd's back from other officers holding him down.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/george-floyd-death-autopsies-homicide-axphyxiation-details/