It is indeed a numbers game...

If we want to be super analytical, then we may also factor time value of money, cost of time savings using plasterboard vs extra time spent casing PoP, marginal premium you could extract from neater finish obtainable with plasterboard vs extra cost incurred for housekeeping in the case of PoP, plus other factors that may come to play.

At the end, with all factors considered, the difference will be marginal and not as significant for some cases.

This is not the first time this is being suggested to me lately so i was just doing some extra validation by following the discussion. It's right up there for consideration ahead of PoP for any of our project with tight time schedule.

Builders are generally not open to critical examination and somewhat slow adopters of innovation. My observation.

n3xt:


This is with the assumption that I’ll get a metre of cornice for N2,000. Nay!

I wish you know the number of cornices that can be produced in a bag of POP cement.

Why should I buy 1 metre of cornice 2k when the whole board, cornice and installation is 4k. Cornice is way cheaper bro!

Bros, this is really a number game

Everything counts.

rotecch77:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K0299uG_GE
The precast is still In used in few part of this world, it’s cheaper a bit to the already made board,
But to make work faster, neat, longer size cut/ shape, very neat work place , already made board is the best.

That's the thing! No one disputes the fact that plasterboard is way better. As a matter of fact, it's gonna knock POP precast off in no distance future since some firm are already considering producing in Nigeria which will bring down the cost drastically. But at the moment, rate isn't even close.

mufutau55:
My brothers and sisters. I have been following the cost comparison between the regular POP and the Plasterboard for ceiling works.
Theory is good but practical is a different thing entirely.
Please do your due deligence and do not contract anyone until you have done your verifications. We do not need anyone coming back here with story that touches.
We have many artisan that does the regular POP here reputably but few people with plasterboard work. I personally beleive if the plasterboard ceilings is cheaper, I am sure most of us would have been using it more. Please make sure you are not following packagings. So, do your due deligence about the cost before you engage in it. Just a warning from experience.
I am not recommending between regular POP and Plasterboard ceiling neither am I recommending any artisan or contractor; just do your personal due deligence before you part with your money.
Please beware of packagings, as we call it here.
If you experiment with Plasterboard, please come back here and tell us the pros and the cons. Thanks.

Hajji M.

Apt!! That is it - If it is cheaper, why are people not using it knowing fully well how cost conscious we could be in this country. Nice observation.

n3xt:


A board of 1.2m (w) x 3m (h) by 12mm thickness with total coverage of 3.6m2 sells for N6,000

10mm thickness is lesser and there are more expensive ones.

No Good 12mm plasterboard sells for N6,000 per sheet bros, definitely China board which is even worse than using POP precast since what was packaged in it isn't Gypsum. Average Plasterboard like Turkish Gyprock and ABS is more than that not to talk of good boards like Siniat, Pladur and German Knauf.

Dominionng:


That's the thing! No one disputes the fact that plasterboard is way better. As a matter of fact, it's gonna knock POP precast off in no distance future since some firm are already considering producing in Nigeria which will bring down the cost drastically. But at the moment, rate isn't even close.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrsfBnRzSqw

Focusmind:


I am thinking of using plaster board for my ceiling but have the impression that it is far more expensive than POP - But your analysis here is showing that it is quite competitive compared to POP - In summary, is it cheaper than POP? Overseas, they hardly use POP - They use boards mostly.

Don't sweat it sir, it's better but not cheaper. Do you think something will be better and cheaper and the entire country will be blind to it? At the moment, I'm running projects using plasterboard with grids, plasterboard without grids, POP precast and full dry construction(building without blocks). I get these materials almost every week and been doing these here almost a decade, biko don't be deceived.

Abolarin91:
Pls where in Ibadan, I will love to visit while the plasterboard is ongoing, I visit Ibadan frequently

To achieve what exactly? See how plasterboard is being used? Or validate my assertions?

That’s why there’s internet for you to do your findings.
I tested the same on a personal project and found it a cheaper alternative and ever since I’ve been using it on my projects.

You can just use a small bathroom project to do cost comparison.

n3xt:


This is with the assumption that I’ll get a metre of cornice for N2,000. Nay!

I wish you know the number of cornices that can be produced in a bag of POP cement.

Why should I buy 1 metre of cornice 2k when the whole board, cornice and installation is 4k. Cornice is way cheaper bro!

Bros, this is really a number game

Everything counts.

I'm tempted by this.

We are about to commence finishing for my house this week and the upper floor is where I need to decide going for either POP or the board.

Which is actually cheaper?

The total sqm of the entire upper floor below the roof noggins is 150sqm

150*₦4,000=₦600,000 for POP
How much will the board come to?

Am resident in Ibadan, pls when your next project in Ibadan starts, pls let me get an invite to your site.

n3xt:


Ibadan. Lagos. Ijebu.

The project where I’m using the boards in few weeks is in Ibadan.

sconp:


What if one has started building?

You'll have to 'settle' to overlook, otherwise, you'll pay penal fee, which is like 300% of the assessment done

We're dealing with one with LASPPPA presently

Dominionng:


No one will use your wet hanging plasterboard in places like this, what we use is dry construction(Plasterboard with grid). Cost of wish almost double that of POP precast.

I sure understand what you’re saying. Unfortunately, I didn’t keep pictures of the last project where I used it.

I did regular POP. I did plasterboards with grid. I did plasterboards without grids. I did over 1000sqm of suspended ceiling.

The cost is still way cheaper for me than regular POP. I didn’t have to buy glass, buy range, buy oil, buy buy buy. I just bought boards and it’s accessories and voila it was done. Then screeding.

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n3xt:


Far, far cheaper.

Let’s compare Apple with Apple now.

Let’s assume we want to cover a room (3.6m x 3.6m) plain design with ceiling rose at the center.

Using POP
POP - N4,000/sqm (material and labour)
3.6 x 3.6 x N4000 = N51,840

__________
Using Plasterboard
Each board is 3.6sqm
Total coverage area is 12.96sqm

That means we need 3.6 boards to cover the room.
Call any supplier online and ask how much is a plasterboard of 3.6m x 3.6m x 12mm

N6,000 x 3.6 boards = N21,600

Buy 1 bag of POP plaster for cornices, screeding and installation - N5,000

Let’s make it pro!
Buy angle, beed and screw etc for the installation. Each is sold at N450
Buy 20 pcs = N9,000

Plasterboard installation is done 400 per sqm. Multiply by 12.96sqm = N5,200

Screeding is done shikini naira pere. N3,000


So pros in the house, what have I missed out? Please kindly add it.

Let’s stop scaring people. Plasterboard is cheaper than N4,000/sqm POP

I just completed over 1,000sqm installation so I know what I’m talking about.


The most interesting part is this can be achieved in one day once your materials are ready.


Edit
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I noticed I omitted the cost of casting the cornice and other small POP installation materials. Let’s add N7,000

It’s still not expensive than regular POP.

Baba, let me walk this walk with you.

1. No transport to move your materials to site?

2. You will buy 3.6 boards in the market?

3. Net tape, POP cement, POP paint and labour for N3,000?

4, 14.4m cornice, material and labour for N7,000?

This is even for a plain plasterboard ceiling with cornice and it is still not cheaper.

Again, whoever drilled plasterboard directly to wooden noggin in 2020 should be shot at dawn!

My brother we too the overdo for this country. When you even decide to cut off some of these unnecessary stuffs, they'll be like "e no get money" or start advising you to do this or that.

Nero2424:


Nigerians don't put cost into consideration, they just go with the crowd.... Western world don't worry themselves with POP, Parapet, wall edges, pillars, tiling kitchen from floor to ceiling and so many addons that makes building a house more expensive. They just make it simple and detailed and keeping the surrounding beautiful and clean.

n3xt:


I buy from Great Omegason in Mushin and their price as at this evening is 6,000 for a 1.2m x 3m x 12mm board

I repeat no Good plasterboard is sold for N6,000 per sheet, definitely China board. Great Omegason sells lots of nameless China boards, they also sells good boards. Tell Mr Saheed(Sales Manager) of Great Omegason Diego sends his regards, but insist on Knauf board when next you visit.

Dominionng:


I repeat no Good plasterboard is sold for N6,000 per sheet, definitely China board. Great Omegason sells lots of nameless China boards, they also sells good boards. Tell Mr Saheed(Sales Manager) of Great Omegason Diego sends his regards, but insist on Knauf board when next you visit.

Gradually, we are getting there.

Sir, since you know Saheed. You’ll definitely know they sell their accessories N400 naira pere and they sell N5500 and N6000 boards. I already mentioned that there are more expensive boards. And the standard charge of their installers is just N400 naira pere.

Now, that they sell knock-offs or China brand is another thing entirely. It’s for the client to decide just like when you go to market to buy Tiles. You’re not compelled to buy Spanish because someone said it’s the world’s best. You cut your coat according to your budget.

This is how we were made to believe Wichtech is the all-in-all in roofing and that all other Chinese products are fake and not good.

How many people are using Wichtech today? Why were they compelled to make Wichtech Nigeria grades?
It’s because people are more wiser now.


Get into the market and ask questions. I did and I realize a huge savings on my project.

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Abolarin91:
God bless you sir, agba o ni tan lorile

Oga mi. I don talk my own o. "Caveat Emptor".

Hajji M.

Dominionng:


Very correct sir. Plasterboard, cement board and sidings are called sheetrock. Beautiful materials to work with. Creating this with them here in Lagos

Excellent. If anyone is using it with aplomb I knew it’ll be you.

I’m never allowing POP panels to be made on my site again, damn the cost. I’ll balance the budget elsewhere. Just too messy for me.

Dominionng:


I repeat no Good plasterboard is sold for N6,000 per sheet, definitely China board. Great Omegason sells lots of nameless China boards, they also sells good boards. Tell Mr Saheed(Sales Manager) of Great Omegason Diego sends his regards, but insist on Knauf board when next you visit.

A decade or so ago, many houses under construction were pulled down because the plaster boards they used was imported from China and had cancer causing materials detected in them. Children were getting sick and they did testing which led them to the cause.

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Looking good.

I wasn’t a fan of the gateman house picture in the last render but will be doing it on my next build. I can see the functionality now.

Lots of things are clearer to me after being on the ground and living here. Some of my decisions made about Nigeria while in the USA weren’t the best.

But we move, no time

n3xt:


Gradually, we are getting there.

Sir, since you know Saheed. You’ll definitely know they sell their accessories N400 naira pere and they sell N5500 and N6000 boards. I already mentioned that there are more expensive boards. And the standard charge of their installers is just N400 naira pere.

Now, that they sell knock-offs or China brand is another thing entirely. It’s for the client to decide just like when you go to market to buy Tiles. You’re not compelled to buy Spanish because someone said it’s the world’s best. You cut your coat according to your budget.

What's my own if you choose to buy substandard plasterboards. Even with your 6k non gypsum packaged board, still not feasible at 4k/sqm for a designed/suspended POP ceiling. Whoever chooses to believe these joke figures does so at his/her own risk. Enough said

Dominionng:


No Good 12mm plasterboard sells for N6,000 per sheet bros, definitely China board which is even worse than using POP precast since what was packaged in it isn't Gypsum. Average Plasterboard like Turkish Gyprock and ABS is more than that not to talk of good boards like Siniat, Pladur and German Knauf.

How could one tell the difference between the nameless Chinese boards and the good boards like the German Knauf etc?

I know someone could say go to a dealer but sometimes the dealers repackage products.. you think you are buying the original, the real deal without knowing they repackaged a fake low quality product for you.

So is there any litmus test to tell the difference?

Dominionng:


Don't sweat it sir, it's better but not cheaper. Do you think something will be better and cheaper and the entire country will be blind to it? At the moment, I'm running projects using plasterboard with grids, plasterboard without grids, POP precast and full dry construction(building without blocks). I get these materials almost every week and been doing these here almost a decade, biko don't be deceived.

An authority on the subject has spoken!

When I came here, someone told me that the people here are all the ogas and right now, I'm seeing it all. Plasterboard and pop don carry discussion for more than five pages. My joy is that I'm learning a whole lot from you people and I'm glad to be here.

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Badgers14:


How could one tell the difference between the nameless Chinese boards and the good boards like the German Knauf etc?

I know someone could say go to a dealer but sometimes the dealers repackage products.. you think you are buying the original, the real deal without knowing they repackaged a fake low quality product for you.

So is there any litmus test to tell the difference?

1. They have their names boldly written on them, with s/n and date of production at the edges, while the China boards are mostly nameless

2. Comes in single sheet, while the China boards are mostly double packed with a paper tape to bind them. See image 1 and 2

3. You can feel the strength by lifting both

4. Site test: Cut a small piece of both(like 1ft by 1ft), dip in water for like an hour, one comes out useless, while the other remain solid, can be dried and reused.

Dominionng:


1. They have their names boldly written on them, with s/n and date of production at the edges, while the China boards are mostly nameless

2. Comes in single sheet, while the China boards are mostly double packed with a paper tape to bind them. See image 1 and 2

3. You can feel the strength by lifting both

4. Site test: Cut a small piece of both(like 1ft by 1ft), dip in water for like an hour, one comes out useless, while the other remain solid, can be dried and reused.

Thanks for the clarification..

Curious if anyone could try number 4, let's see how that worked... not that I doubt your expertise but oga, my eyes have seen something in this life...

not to derail this thread but does anyone remember when NAFDAC mandated that medications have a serial number and a verification line where one could text the serial number to verify authenticity.. boys some how, some way rigged the system.. they package a fake product with a serial number that confirms authenticity as a genuine product

I know a guy that is a distributor, company authorized.. but he still goes to China to make low quality product and package it like the real original product.. because he is a confirmed company authorized agent.. people think every product he sell are original.

EgunMogaji2:
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/chinese-drywall-problems-health-effects-32402.html

Good morning. Thanks for sharing.

I’ve read gone through the post and I found this too: https://www.lafargeholcim.us/sites/us/files/atoms/files/gypsum_sds_english.pdf


https://www.poison.org/articles/when-is-drywall-a-problem-172

Not all of the homes with problem drywall contained drywall manufactured in China. Some problem homes contained drywall manufactured in North America and some had drywall with no indication of origin. "Problem drywall" refers to all affected drywall regardless of its country of origin.


https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_the_effects_of_plaster_of_paris_to_respiratory_system_and_skin

n3xt:


Good morning. Thanks for sharing.

I’ve read gone through the post and I found this too: https://www.lafargeholcim.us/sites/us/files/atoms/files/gypsum_sds_english.pdf


https://www.poison.org/articles/when-is-drywall-a-problem-172

Not all of the homes with problem drywall contained drywall manufactured in China. Some problem homes contained drywall manufactured in North America and some had drywall with no indication of origin. "Problem drywall" refers to all affected drywall regardless of its country of origin.


https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_the_effects_of_plaster_of_paris_to_respiratory_system_and_skin

Be that article as it may, I was there on ground, building and working in Texas. The ones I was aware of were all identified as being from China. I’m no custom officer and have no access to the bill of ladings.

I’ll stick to my first hand local knowledge from builders. I know how many houses were pulled down in my subdivision in north Dallas due to this China drywall issue.

Thanks.