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Re: What Does The Bible Say About Obedience? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:48am On Aug 10, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
I already said that you lied, when I typed that you, stop lying, that, you did put what was not there, that you did remove and replace with, what wasn't originally there

You know enough to think you’re right, but not enough, to know you are wrong and are perpetuating lies

You remind me of reading the classic "The Vulture is a Patient Bird" novel by James Hadley Chase. incidentally, and by the very good grace of God, I am a patient person and so, I am capable of accepting and tolerating delays. Besides that, I dont upstage the Holy Spirit, and truthfully speaking, there isn't any need/want to show off. Just so you know, I disclose, only after the Holy Spirit has collared, arrested and convicted you, not before

No one can force anyone to understand a message that they are not yet ready to receive, but, hey, must never underestimate the power of planting a seed

Where did an idea of "... wasn't at war with you" come from. You've been misinformed, you've been miseducated and so your old ways, won't lead you to open new doors

I respect your, entitled to have, humble views, so much to the extent, I dont, myself have to shoot your forwarded superficial on-the-surface discovery banal views down.

It might interest you, to know that, petroleum oil isn't scooped on the surface, coal is picked on the ground surface, gold, diamonds and other precious gems aren't lifted off the ground surface, pearls are plucked from water surfaces. Just muse or thoughtfully think about all those listed discoveries for a moment and about the fact that the devil has no power ... except in the dark, a dark like that of Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, but you dont want to yourself, ferret through, but you instead want me, to draw the picture for you.

You think too highly of yourself. I never called on you requiring any assistance or aid to establish your imagined defence of homosexuality. You selectively have chose to forget, it was you who reared your head, fishing for information, without realising that you wouldn't be able to stand when the heat gets hot and hotter

You aren't adequately biblical educated and mentally mature enough to grasp what is contained in Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, hence your failure in not properly investigating, probing and examining Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, closely and thoroughly enough, so that, with the help of the Spirit of Truth aka the Holy Spirit, you by now, could have already rightly divided, the word of God, with sound judgement, as regards what exactly, under the hood or bonnet, was going on, with Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 and then on top, get to know, for sure, why and how these particular acts, behaviours, practices are to God "abominable" or "a detestable sin" or "an abomination" or "detestable act" or "detestable" or "disgusting" or "what God hates" et cetera.

Wtf, where's the faith. I haven't failed in planting a seed, threatening your accepted half baked interpretation of Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13.

Obviously, its you whose failed, to understand that many people like you, are not ready to be unplugged, because you are so accustomed to Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 gross misinterpretation and hopelessly will fight to protect the illusions so not to have it destroyed. Some people, like you, who should be spiritually mature and ready to confront hard truth, aren't spiritually mature and aren't ready to confront the Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 hard truths

Let me clarify, I am not on this thread to establish "it" Notice I was drawn into the limelight and never had any intent to establish "it". If you must know, I really dont give a toss however you and that mischief maker feels about "it". The choice to become aware, alert and/or enlightened, is your call, not and never mine. I am sure you've found out that, I would never disclose anything before you've got to worked out for yourself what Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 is all about

It is our obligation to ourselves, to make certain that amidst misinterpretation of any manners, our knowledge is increased in accordance with absolute truth

You're a fast learner, of course, you're right that, I have nothing to give you, to trample upon

Your inability to activate your lateral thinking, proves, why you aren't a biblical detective and unable to investigate, find, probe and examine biblical evidence(s)

Sorry sweetheart? You made me raise my eyebrow there

Would you kindly, in exactly the same words as original were used by me, reproduce the question or request, I asked you and paste it here please?

It is true I've got gunpowder and loads of ammo, the sort suited for Armageddon, but what will be the point of wasting good ammo, ahead of time, hmm? Nah, the guns are safely tucked away in their holsters
grin I am thankful to have had a contention with you without it turning nasty.

The crux of the matter is No One shall be guilty of an Offence, if there is no Law Prohibiting that Offence, which is not the case in homosexuality.

In fact Chapter 18 is all about Abominations not just homosexuality as you implied But All of Them including verse 18 Are All Abominations to The Lord.

Thus God (and not I) has answered your question why is verse 22 Prohibited.
MuttleyLaff:
I'll give you another opportunity, to now, state clearly and in detail, leaving no room for confusion, doubt or repeating "it is prohibited", why did God, The Law Giver, says it is prohibited?
And The Lord God Clearly Answers You that it is Prohibited because, He Hates or Abhors (hence Abominations) Them All!

Which is Seen in verses 24-29.

24 Defile not ye yourselves in Any of These Things[/b]: {Not One as you implied) for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:

25 [b]And the land is defiled
: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.

26 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit Any of These Abominations; {Not One as you implied) neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:

27 For All These Abominations {Not One as you implied) have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;

28 That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you.

29 For whosoever shall commit Any of These abominations, {Not One as you implied) even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people.

And the Trespass or Offence or Sin Against Holiness is called "Defilement!"
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Obedience? by MuttleyLaff: 8:31pm On Aug 12, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:
grin I am thankful to have had a contention with you without it turning nasty.
You arent having a contention with me, you are having the contention with the Bible. Nasty is never going to happen because I don't bite, the most, I may, do, is an odd bark.

Dtruthspeaker:
The crux of the matter is No One shall be guilty of an Offence, if there is no Law Prohibiting that Offence, which is not the case in homosexuality.
I will keep reminding and advising you to stick to exactly what is in Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13. To exactly stick to how Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 was written without adding or using the word homosexuality, that is a late 19th century invention.

It will interest you to know, that the words, homosexuality and homosexual are not at all, in the original texts of the Bible. In fact, the words homosexuality and/or homosexual, actually are words that are barely 200 years old. As a matter of fact, the word "homosexual" was invented in 1868, and has earlier advanced, the word "homosexuality" certainly wasn't around in Biblical times to be used.

Another more interesting fact, is that, the word "homosexual" was first printed in a German book in 1869, and then after placed in the German Bible in 1946 and later then in the English bible in 1950s, so please do add words into to Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, that weren't originally there, lets faithfully just stick to exactly the same words as were used originally Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13

Dtruthspeaker:
In fact Chapter 18 is all about Abominations not just homosexuality as you implied But All of Them including verse 18 Are All Abominations to The Lord.
With all due respect to you, may I humbly ask you to present verse(s) in Leviticus 18, that specifically said or called an activity an abomination(s)

Dtruthspeaker:
Thus God (and not I) has answered your question why is verse 22 Prohibited.
Pride will not permit you to admit that, you have no clue why the activities in Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 are prohibited and the reason for calling them abomination

Dtruthspeaker:
And The Lord God Clearly Answers You that it is Prohibited because, He Hates or Abhors (hence Abominations) Them All!

Which is Seen in verses 24-29.

24 Defile not ye yourselves in Any of These Things[: {Not One as you implied) for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:
25 And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.
26 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit Any of These Abominations; {Not One as you implied) neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:
27 For All These Abominations {Not One as you implied) have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;
28 That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you.
29 For whosoever shall commit Any of These abominations, {Not One as you implied) even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people.

And the Trespass or Offence or Sin Against Holiness is called "Defilement!"
I am pleased that you are provoked that much to go review the bible, but not so fast José, I put it to you, that the whole shebang of Leviticus 18:24-29 is exclusively related Leviticus 18:22

I can see that you conveniently omitted Leviticus 18:30 when reeling out your "forced-to-go-research-upon" Leviticus 18. Why now? Is it because of you not grasping the grave concern of exactly what were the practised "abominable customs" ni?

What exactly was going on during the "abominable customs" activity, that defiled the land and disgusts God, huh?
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Obedience? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:51pm On Aug 12, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
You arent having a contention with me, you are having the contention with the Bible. Nasty is never going to happen because I don't bite, the most, I may, do, is an odd bark.

I will keep reminding and advising you to stick to exactly what is in Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13. To exactly stick to how Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 was written without adding or using the word homosexuality, that is a late 19th century invention.

It will interest you to know, that the words, homosexuality and homosexual are not at all, in the original texts of the Bible. In fact, the words homosexuality and/or homosexual, actually are words that are barely 200 years old. As a matter of fact, the word "homosexual" was invented in 1868, and has earlier advanced, the word "homosexuality" certainly wasn't around in Biblical times to be used.

Another more interesting fact, is that, the word "homosexual" was first printed in a German book in 1869, and then after placed in the German Bible in 1946 and later then in the English bible in 1950s, so please do add words into to Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, that weren't originally there, lets faithfully just stick to exactly the same words as were used originally Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13

With all due respect to you, may I humbly ask you to present verse(s) in Leviticus 18, that specifically said or called an activity an abomination(s)

Pride will not permit you to admit that, you have no clue why the activities in Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 are prohibited and the reason for calling them abomination

I am pleased that you are provoked that much to go review the bible, but not so fast José, I put it to you, that the whole shebang of Leviticus 18:24-29 is exclusively related Leviticus 18:22

I can see that you conveniently omitted Leviticus 18:30 when reeling out your "forced-to-go-research-upon" Leviticus 18. Why now? Is it because of you not grasping the grave concern of exactly what were the practised "abominable customs" ni?

What exactly was going on during the "abominable customs" activity, that defiled the land and disgusts God, huh?
Leviticus 18 has settled all your questions without leaving any unanswered.

God Listed the conducts He Abhors! Verses 6-23

verses 24-29. God says these conducts defile Holiness.

24 Defile not ye yourselves in Any of These Things: (Why?) for in all these, the nations are defiled, which I cast out before you:

25 And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.

26 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit Any of These Abominations; {Not One as you implied) neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:

27 For All These Abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;

28 That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you.

29 For whosoever shall commit Any of These abominations, {Not One as you implied) even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people.

And verse 30 simply re-iterates the Prohibition of the doing of Any One of this conducts or Acts or practices or Custom.

God has answered all your questions and There is No Defence for the Practice of what is called today, homosexuality.
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Obedience? by MuttleyLaff:
Dtruthspeaker:
Leviticus 18 has settled all your questions without leaving any unanswered.

God Listed the conducts He Abhors! Verses 6-23

verses 24-29. God says these conducts defile Holiness.

24 Defile not ye yourselves in Any of These Things: (Why?) for in all these, the nations are defiled, which I cast out before you:
25 And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.
26 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit Any of These Abominations; {Not One as you implied) neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:
27 For All These Abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;
28 That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you.
29 For whosoever shall commit Any of These abominations, {Not One as you implied) even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people.

And verse 30 simply re-iterates the Prohibition of the doing of Any One of this conducts or Acts or practices or Custom.

God has answered all your questions and There is No Defence for the Practice of what is called today, homosexuality.
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"He went on to say,
Pay attention to what you're listening to!
(i.e. Pay close attention to what you hear)
[Knowledge] (i.e. facts, vital pieces of information) will be measured out to you by the measure [of attention] you give.
(i.e. The closer you listen, the more understanding you will be given--and you will receive even more.)
This is the way knowledge increases
"
- Mark 4:24

Being gay, is like being left handed. Just as some people are left handed, so, some people aren't.

Aside epigenetic, (i.e. I believe you watched the video, I earlier shared above there about epigenetic) and the matter of least knowledge, of, thats just the way things are, nobody really knows why, same sex attraction exists, except for, it's part of the dividends of us living in an imperfect world and that, God, in His infinite wisdom allow it and so it is that, there is nothing abnormal in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object or neighbour

Now, if truly, you are a real deal, truth seeker, that you like to be identified to be, then a truth rhetorical question, I'll ask you Dtruthseeker will be. Is it possible, that love can be extraordinary, that there is love wonderful and passing the love of women? Of course, yes, for some, there is and this even, is a biblical fact.

Dtruthseeker, if blanket homosexuality is an abomination, thank God, it isn't blanket homosexuality, not homosexuality per se, that is an abomination, but then, if it was or let's say for the sake of your "Dtruthseeker argument" it is, then isnt it, just as bad as being a liar? Isn't it just as bad as telling lies and/or lying, hmm?

If hypothetically speaking, it is that, homosexuality is a sin and/or an abomination, then why are people behaving in unpleasant ways towards homosexual(s) exclusively? Why are homosexuals singled out to bear/take/suffer et cetera the brunt of discrimination, hatred, violence, humiliation, being physically harmed/assaulted, fear of their lives etcetera, huh? Is it because some section of believers, think that they are more important than they really are, when compared with fellow human beings, who by no choice of theirs, except for epigenetics, have same sex attraction, similarly like having to be lefthanded, hmm? If hypothetically speaking, it is that, homosexuality is a sin and/or an abomination, then a liar would just be as sinful as a homosexual, right? Imagine liars, condemning monogamous till death part them, homosexuals. Smh. KMT.

The hypocrisy stinks to high heaven, especially when I suspect believers like you Dtruthseeker, enjoy eating sumptuous, luxurious meal delicacies, the likes of, lobsters, bush meats et cetera or having your lovable crab soup, shrimps, prawns, cray fish, point and kill cat fish, pepperoni in pizza, belly pork et cetera, and here you are disproportionately, illogically and out of context, busy talking of abomination. Sigh and smh. The abomination context, in Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 is so incredibly important, but you just cant get yourself to 2 Timothy 2:15 dig deeper and fact check the verses
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Obedience? by Acehart: 5:25am On Aug 13, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:
Leviticus 18 has settled all your questions without leaving any unanswered.

God Listed the conducts He Abhors! Verses 6-23

verses 24-29. God says these conducts defile Holiness.
The two of you will wear yourselves soon. Friend, to help you answer his question (He has been clear on his position from his explanation from the book of Proverbs and the “abominations before the Lord”. It is important you understand the latter to understand what those verses in Leviticus meant), please study deeply 2 Kings 18:4 and especially 2 Kings 23:7. Please, have in mind those words - ‘abominations before the Lord’ and defile “Holiness” or defile a “Holy Place or People”.
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Obedience? by Nobody: 7:21am On Aug 13, 2020
You will all continue to argue and argue and argue amongst yourselves because none of you wants to be OBEDIENT!
God's people are one and we're all submissive to those leading his earthly Organization, as long as you're not ready to recognize those sent by Jesus to organise his earthly followers, you will continue to argue and argue and argue fruitlessly within yourselves! Philippians 2:14; Colossians 2:4; 1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9 wink
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Obedience? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:56am On Aug 13, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
[img]https://s7/images/1387e5bfc2695c608bf7c75da7345974--lgbt-rights-lgbt-humor.jpg[/img]

"He went on to say,
Pay attention to what you're listening to!
(i.e. Pay close attention to what you hear)
[Knowledge] (i.e. facts, vital pieces of information) will be measured out to you by the measure [of attention] you give.
(i.e. The closer you listen, the more understanding you will be given--and you will receive even more.)
This is the way knowledge increases
"
- Mark 4:24

Being gay, is like being left handed. Just as some people are left handed, so, some people aren't.

Aside epigenetic, (i.e. I believe you watched the video, I earlier shared above there about epigenetic) and the matter of least knowledge, of, thats just the way things are, nobody really knows why, same sex attraction exists, except for, it's part of the dividends of us living in an imperfect world and that, God, in His infinite wisdom allow it and so it is that, there is nothing abnormal in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object or neighbour

Now, if truly, you are a real deal, truth seeker, that you like to be identified to be, then a truth rhetorical question, I'll ask you Dtruthseeker will be. Is it possible, that love can be extraordinary, that there is love wonderful and passing the love of women? Of course, yes, for some, there is and this even, is a biblical fact.

Dtruthseeker, if blanket homosexuality is an abomination, thank God, it isn't blanket homosexuality, not homosexuality per se, that is an abomination, but then, if it was or let's say for the sake of your "Dtruthseeker argument" it is, then isnt it, just as bad as being a liar? Isn't it just as bad as telling lies and/or lying, hmm?

If hypothetically speaking, it is that, homosexuality is a sin and/or an abomination, then why are people behaving in unpleasant ways towards homosexual(s) exclusively? Why are homosexuals singled out to bear/take/suffer et cetera the brunt of discrimination, hatred, violence, humiliation, being physically harmed/assaulted, fear of their lives etcetera, huh? Is it because some section of believers, think that they are more important than they really are, when compared with fellow human beings, who by no choice of theirs, except for epigenetics, have same sex attraction, similarly like having to be lefthanded, hmm? If hypothetically speaking, it is that, homosexuality is a sin and/or an abomination, then a liar would just be as sinful as a homosexual, right? Imagine liars, condemning monogamous till death part them, homosexuals. Smh. KMT.

The hypocrisy stinks to high heaven, especially when I suspect believers like you Dtruthseeker, enjoy eating sumptuous, luxurious meal delicacies, the likes of, lobsters, bush meats et cetera or having your lovable crab soup, shrimps, prawns, cray fish, point and kill cat fish, pepperoni in pizza, belly pork et cetera, and here you are disproportionately, illogically and out of context, busy talking of abomination. Sigh and smh. The abomination context, in Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 is so incredibly important, but you just cant get yourself to 2 Timothy 2:15 dig deeper and fact check the verses
cheesy I mean no wound when I say the following.
First, you have just conceeded that in Truth the Defence of homosexuality is not Founded in the Bible or Provided.

BUT BASED ON THE FACT THAT YOU (and all the proponents of it) Say It Is Natural Meaning Your Defence Of Homosexuality IS BASED ON NATURE, Therefore, YOU ARE PLEADING THE DEFENCE OF NATURE.

Since you have raised the Defence of Nature, then I say that, That is the Beauty and Power of God, For He is the Creator of Nature, and Your Creator, therefore He can Properly and Justly Assess your Defence, if it stands and it is valid or if it falls.

No man can validly Comment from hereon because man is neither the Creator of Nature nor the Creator of the homosexual man, so he can not truly appreciate the Defence of Nature.

But what we do know and we say is that There is a Law Given by God, the Creator of Nature and all men both "homosexual" and heterosexual, Prohibiting and Banning its doing or practice with No Exception!

Would the Defence of Nature avail any person who does these Abominations? Smh!

In my humble opinion, I do not think any would be found innocent. Why? Because Law (1) says "He made them male and female"

So, the question therefore is, Did the Creator make you male and male? It is the Creator Himself Who shall supply this answer. And fortunately or unfortunately depending on the Judgement, it is the Creator Himself, Who shall also Judge this matters.

Thus, my final position is that, it is better to be on the Safe side of the Law by complying and abiding with it than to place thyself, In Danger of Contravening it, where you Test The Judgement of it, with your Life as Against An Expressingly Declared Judgement, Covering the Same Subject Matter.

For in view of This Contention, the Lord God, Knowing that you shall think in this way and manner, Gave His Judgments In Advance in the same Leviticus 18, saying

"4 Ye shall do my judgments, and keep mine ordinances,
to walk therein: I am the Lord your God.

5 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments:

26 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations;

Three (3) Times Did He Say That He Has Given Us Before Hand, His Judgments!
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Obedience? by Dtruthspeaker: 12:00pm On Aug 13, 2020
Acehart:
The two of you will wear yourselves soon. Friend, to help you answer his question (He has been clear on his position from his explanation from the book of Proverbs and the “abominations before the Lord”. It is important you understand the latter to understand what those verses in Leviticus meant), please study deeply 2 Kings 18:4 and especially 2 Kings 23:7. Please, have in mind those words - ‘abominations before the Lord’ and defile “Holiness” or defile a “Holy Place or People”.
Thank you, I believe that the matter is just about concluded now.
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Obedience? by MuttleyLaff: 12:28pm On Aug 13, 2020
Acehart:
The two of you will wear yourselves soon. Friend, to help you answer his question (He has been clear on his position from his explanation from the book of Proverbs and the “abominations before the Lord”. It is important you understand the latter to understand what those verses in Leviticus meant), please study deeply 2 Kings 18:4 and especially 2 Kings 23:7. Please, have in mind those words - ‘abominations before the Lord’ and defile “Holiness” or defile a “Holy Place or People”.
Thank you dear beloved brother for this your seasoned, matured, objective and Berean approach to this, with Dtruthseeker, not at all living up to the essence of what his/her moniker ID means or conveys

Matters like this isn't sprint, but is marathon, and as an experienced marathon runner, there's no way, I'll get wore down. It is very obvious that Dtruthseeker, hasn't 2 Timothy 2:15 deeply studied Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13. I am going methodical here and have the power to do this. It is, by the grace of God, soft work.

The 2 Kings 18:4 and 2 Kings 23:7 verses, are related to what Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 is talking about, but they dont give the specifics of what in Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, is God not happy or pleased about and how why



Maximus69:
You will all continue to argue and argue and argue amongst yourselves because none of you wants to be OBEDIENT!
God's people are one and we're all submissive to those leading his earthly Organization, as long as you're not ready to recognize those sent by Jesus to organise his earthly followers, you will continue to argue and argue and argue fruitlessly within yourselves! Philippians 2:14; Colossians 2:4; 1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9 wink
You of course, know, I don't do arguments.
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Obedience? by Janosky: 2:07pm On Aug 13, 2020
Maximus69:
You will all continue to argue and argue and argue amongst yourselves because none of you wants to be OBEDIENT!
God's people are one and we're all submissive to those leading his earthly Organization, as long as you're not ready to recognize those sent by Jesus to organise his earthly followers, you will continue to argue and argue and argue fruitlessly within yourselves! Philippians 2:14; Colossians 2:4; 1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9 wink
grin grin

The "spirit filled born again" triune pagan deities devotees has failed to speak with one voice to unitedly condemn the practice of homosexuality.

Their 3 pagan deities can not teach their "spirit-filled born again" adherents that homosexual practice is FORBIDDEN among servants of Jehovah , the only true God.(Romans 1:24-28).
Their so-called holy ghost is a divisive ,demonic spirit giving them different conflicting interpretations on the subject of homosexuality.
(James3:13,15 homosexual practice is not "wisdom from heaven"wink.
grin grin
They don't even know the holy Scriptures EXPLICITLY CONDEMNED the evil practice.
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Obedience? by Acehart:
MuttleyLaff:
Thank you dear beloved brother for this your seasoned, matured, objective and Berean approach to this, with Dtruthseeker, not at all living up to the essence of what his/her moniker ID means or conveys

Matters like this isn't sprint, but is marathon, and as an experienced marathon runner, there's no way, I'll get wore down. It is very obvious that Dtruthseeker, hasn't 2 Timothy 2:15 deeply studied Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13. I am going methodical here and have the power to do this. It is, by the grace of God, soft work.

The 2 Kings 18:4 and 2 Kings 23:7 verses, are related to what Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 is talking about, but they dont give the specifics of what in Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, is God not happy or pleased about and how why
Muttleylaff, you can be abrasive sometimes, maybe most times. You need to be gentle especially when you taste the air and sense that the other person isn’t a marathoner.

I just found out yesterday that I have ninety-one people directly under me; that means I have had close to one-hundred and twenty in the past four years, wow! many of them are uneducated or at best o’ level certified; the one thing that wins them to accept new ideas or make an improvement to work is love -modesty, brotherliness, sensitivity and gentleness - with this approach, I have spoken to many about sin, the scriptures and Christ, unopposed. This approach, when followed, has never failed.

Please think about this approach when you are here on NL. NL isn’t a forum of theological debate or superiority. NL is like Oshodi Bus-Stop on a Monday morning - don’t expect anything good. You should be like a grinding stone that sharpens a dull edge rather than a guillotine in a workshop. When you turn on your keyboard to respond, please provide the specifics of why God was not happy or pleased about and how why. I’d really appreciate it.

Thank you.
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Obedience? by Janosky: 2:18pm On Aug 13, 2020
Romans 1:18-32
God's Wrath on Unrighteousness


18 For (AJ)the wrath of God (AK)is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men,
who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19 For what can be (AL)known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, (AM)have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world,[g] in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they (AN)became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 (AO)Claiming to be wise, they became fools, [/b]23 and (AP)exchanged the glory of (AQ)the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.

[b]24 Therefore (AR)God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to (AS)the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, [/b]25 because they exchanged the truth about God for (AT)a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, (AU)who is blessed forever! Amen.

[b]26 For this reason (AV)God gave them up to (AW)dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, (AX)men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.


28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, (AY)God gave them up to (AZ)a debased mind to do (BA)what ought not to be done. [/b]29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32[b] Though they know (BB)God's righteous decree that those who practice such things (BC)deserve to die, they not only do them but (BD)give approval to those who practice them.

Footnotes.

Homosexuality (A.K.A sodomy) is FORBIDDEN by Jehovah God. Emphasis on verses 26-28.
It is contrary to nature.
Flee from the satanic GIBBERISH dey claim is 'alternative lifestyle'
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Obedience? by MuttleyLaff:
Acehart:
Muttleylaff, you can be abrasive sometimes, maybe most times.
Except you provide occasions where and when I have been abrasive, then I will call this remark as idle talk, slander and insulting

Acehart:
You need to be gentle especially when you taste the air and sense that the other person isn’t a marathoner.
Sigh and smh, please provide when and where on this thread that I have not been mild, kind, tender, easy going et cetera

Acehart:
I just found out yesterday that I have ninety-one people directly under me; that means I have had close to one-hundred and twenty in the past four years, wow! many of them are uneducated or at best o’ level certified; the one thing that wins them to accept new ideas or make an improvement to work is love - modesty, brotherliness, sensitivity and gentleness - with this approach, I have spoken to many about sin, the scriptures and Christ, unopposed. This approach, when followed, has never failed.
I am not one keen on blowing my horn, so, I am not going to be dragged into blowing my horn about the good successes of my approach(es). Be my guest, if you feel the urge to more, thump your chest, blow your trumpet and like a Pharisee, honk the horn about your self-admiration, narcissism, positive results and triumphs

Acehart:
Please think about this approach when you are here on NL.
"Jesus told Nicodemus,
"You're a well-known teacher of Israel. Can't you understand this?
(i.e. Are you a teacher of Israel and don't know these things?)
"
- John 3:10

Please think of Jesus' approach engaging with Nicodemus and think of Jesus' approach engaging the sectarian Pharisees (i.e. Far-to-see) and Sadducees (i.e. Sad-to-see)

Midwives, assist in pushing, to help, to bring out. Midwives don't deliver, its the mother who does the actual delivery by herself, with the midwife, acting as cheerleader, encouraging the mother to be, to take in deep breaths and hard pushes. The midwife doesnt pluck a baby out of thin air, but she hands back to the brand newly mother, after being briefly cleaned up, the baby she herself pushed out, after so many deep breaths, grunts, deep hard pushes and attempts


Acehart:
NL isn’t a forum of theological debate or superiority ...
What I see written here is is nothing other than a load of balderdash., if it isn't, why and where from then, did you get the imagination that anyone sees NL to be a forum for theological debate or superiority. Huh?

Acehart:
... NL is like Oshodi Bus-Stop on a Monday morning - don’t expect anything good.
The sense of entitlement on this thread, without wanting to do the heavy lifting work themselves, is a pitiful, despairing and not good at all sight to behold.

I didnt have any "NL is like Oshodi Bus-Stop on a Monday morning" expectation, you need to cross-check if you dont remember that, I was minding my business, before being harpooned and heckled by OP, the pseudo inquiring mind and the other mischief-maker, who joined in to mention me. The trio, executed as a party, to derail the thread

When my posts are posted, interlocutors shouldn't again, ever, automatically mention me in them. Better still, dont even, ever consider reading them, talkless respond to any, because most interlocutors, just chomp my posts, biting off far more than they can chew, this apart from, trying to take in, that which is, too difficult for weak stomachs to handle and will only end up with having stomach severe pains


Acehart:
You should be like a grinding stone that sharpens a dull edge rather than a guillotine in a workshop.
I take my cue from the Holy Spirit prompt, so I would be however I am lead by the Holy Spirit to be. I sigh and smh at you, because I cant be more than a grinding stone that's sharpening a dull edge than I already have been. As for "guillotine in a workshop." that is utter poppycock because I have been gentle, understanding, coaxing as I could ever be, and without so much of never unsheathing my dagger.

Acehart:
When you turn on your keyboard to respond, please provide the specifics of why God was not happy or pleased about and how why. I’d really appreciate it.
If you think I am going to provide any the specifics of why God was not happy or pleased about and how why, on a platter of gold, without youse making any effort to pull out the fingers, lift up the hood yourselves and poke head in to see what's under, then, appreciate that, you'll have another thing coming. The lover of inquiry must follow his/her beloved wherever it may lead him/her, and not just complacently park in Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 or 2 Kings 18:4 and 2 Kings 23:7 verses.

I'll tell you what you really would appreciate. You will appreciate that the German bible was first translated or written before any ever English Bible, was written/translated. So why not start from appreciating what really you'll find out about how Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 were written up, in the German Bibles from the 1800s. That should set you off, to intriguingly have the urge, to dig further deeper, to see what else in the Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 somewhat mystery, is waiting for you to solve and correctly explain with sound biblical exegesis


Acehart:
Thank you.
I appreciate your hollow thank you, but no thank you

cc: Danhoys
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Obedience? by MuttleyLaff:
Janosky:
Romans 1:18-32
God's Wrath on Unrighteousness


18 For (AJ)the wrath of God (AK)is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men,
who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19 For what can be (AL)known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, (AM)have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world,[g] in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they (AN)became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 (AO)Claiming to be wise, they became fools, [/b]23 and (AP)exchanged the glory of (AQ)the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.

[b]24 Therefore (AR)God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to (AS)the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, [/b]25 because they exchanged the truth about God for (AT)a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, (AU)who is blessed forever! Amen.

[b]26 For this reason (AV)God gave them up to (AW)dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, (AX)men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.


28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, (AY)God gave them up to (AZ)a debased mind to do (BA)what ought not to be done. [/b]29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32[b] Though they know (BB)God's righteous decree that those who practice such things (BC)deserve to die, they not only do them but (BD)give approval to those who practice them.

Footnotes.

Homosexuality (A.K.A sodomy) is FORBIDDEN by Jehovah God. Emphasis on verses 26-28.
It is contrary to nature.
Flee from the satanic GIBBERISH dey claim is 'alternative lifestyle'
Janosky, you havent the chutzpah to please with a clear and clean conscience, say you have examined and inspected particularly Romans 1:25-27 closely and thoroughly enough to do a 2 Timothy 2:15 rightly handling the word of truth and correctly handle the word of truth about the verses.

I am 10000% sure that you haven't the ability nor capacity, to do an exegesis of Romans 1:25-27, that's enough to the point where you are able to explain and interpret the verses in such a way, that a two year old would understand.

Janosky & Co, what is happening and/or what happened in Romans 1:25-28? Well, for your information Janosky & Co, Romans 1:18-32, especially verses 24, 26 & 27 are a rehash of Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 with a twist

Paul, with Romans 1:18-32, especially verses 24, 26 & 27, is echoing what happened around when the original Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 were given. He then added the twist (i.e. Romans 1:26b: ... for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against their nature or change to what is against what's natural to them) which is, the women too, have joined to be participants in the ongoing "detestable customs practised" earlier used be done exclusively by the men alone before.

All this and all are new information to you Janosky & Co, I know.
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Obedience? by Acehart:
MuttleyLaff:
Except you provide occasions where and when I have been abrasive, then I will called this remark as idle talk, slander, insulting

Sigh and smh, please provide when and where on this thread that I have not been mild, kind, tender, easy going et cetera

I am not one keen on blowing my horn, so, I am not going to be dragged into blowing my horn about the good successes of my approach(es). Be my guest, if you feel the urge to more, thump your chest, blow your trumpet and like a Pharisee, honk the horn about your self-admiration, narcissism, positive results and triumphs

"Jesus told Nicodemus,
"You're a well-known teacher of Israel. Can't you understand this?
(i.e. Are you a teacher of Israel and don't know these things?)"
- John 3:10

Please think of Jesus' approach engaging with Nicodemus and think of Jesus' approach engaging the sectarian Pharisees (i.e. Far-to-see) and Sadducees (i.e. Sad-to-see)

Midwives, assist in pushing, to help, to bring out. Midwives don't deliver, its the mother who does the actual delivery by herself, with the midwife, acting as cheerleader, encouraging the mother to be, to take in deep breaths and hard pushes. The midwife doesnt pluck a baby out of thin air, but she hands back to the brand newly mother, after being briefly cleaned up, the baby she herself pushed out, after so many deep breaths, grunts, deep hard pushes and attempts


What I see written here is is nothing other than a load of balderdash., if it isn't, why and where from then, did you get the imagination that anyone sees NL to be a forum for theological debate or superiority. Huh?

The sense of entitlement on this thread, without wanting to do the heavy lifting work themselves, is a pitiful, despairing and not good at all sight to behold.

I didnt have any "NL is like Oshodi Bus-Stop on a Monday morning" expectation, you need to cross-check if you dont remember that, I was minding my business, before being harpooned and heckled by OP, the pseudo inquiring mind and the other mischief-maker, who joined in to mention me. The trio, executed as a party, to derail the thread

When my posts are posted, interlocutors shouldn't again, ever, automatically mention me in them. Better still, dont even, ever consider reading them, talkless respond to any, because most interlocutors, just chomp my posts, biting off far more than they can chew, this apart from, trying to take in, that which is, too difficult for weak stomachs to handle and will only end up with having stomach severe pains


I take my cue from the Holy Spirit prompt, so I would be however I am lead by the Holy Spirit to be. I sigh and smh at you, because I cant be more than a grinding stone that's sharpening a dull edge than I already have been. As for "guillotine in a workshop." that is utter poppycock because I have been gentle, understanding, coaxing as I could ever be, and without so much of never unsheathing my dagger.

If you think I am going to provide any the specifics of why God was not happy or pleased about and how why, on a platter of gold, without youse making any effort to pull out the fingers, lift up the hood yourselves and poke head in to see what's under, then, appreciate that, you'll have another thing coming. The lover of inquiry must follow his/her beloved wherever it may lead him/her, and not just complacently park in Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 or 2 Kings 18:4 and 2 Kings 23:7 verses.

I'll tell you what you really would appreciate. You will appreciate that the German bible was first translated or written before any ever English Bible, was written/translated. So why not start from appreciating what really you'll find out about how Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 were written up, in the German Bibles from the 1800s. That should set you off, to intriguingly have the urge, to dig further deeper, to see what else in the Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 somewhat mystery, is waiting for you to solve and correctly explain with sound biblical exegesis


I appreciate your hollow thank you, but no thank you
I tell you this: I enjoy reading your comments -they are amazing.

If I was thumping my chest, it wasn’t intended to portray me as something because I see myself as nothing. It wasn’t my intention to insult you, though it may seem like I did; but I did respond to someone whose mental capacity I esteem greatly; one who would see beyond the gravity of my words to see the intention of my heart through the power of the Holy Spirit that dwells in him.

When someone mentions your moniker, you have the power within you to be silent, pretending that it isn’t you. Silence, at the right time, is louder than noise. It is sad many people, ignorantly, think you support homosexuality; you are a “context-centric” man, I’ve got to know that; many people don’t and may never understand that context is key in understanding the scriptures.

German and Non-German Bibles will give you the true reflection of God’s heart when He gave those commands; only those who swim in the deep end enjoy the pool; those who swim in the shallow end, well, would do so only to enjoy the company of strangers rather than the pool - this is the case with your antagonists. I knew what those verses in Leviticus meant years ago; and they are closely related to the instructions where a man was commanded not to wear women’s clothing and vice-versa.

It would have been nice to know your understanding of those verses; personally, events have made me not enjoy the company of my friends, when we gather to study the scriptures; and an online fellowship is all we have for now - a means through which I thought you would edify me.

Please forgive me if I grieved you.
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Obedience? by MuttleyLaff: 4:00am On Nov 18, 2020
Acehart:
I tell you this: I enjoy reading your comments - they are amazing.

If I was thumping my chest, it wasn’t intended to portray me as something because I see myself as nothing. It wasn’t my intention to insult you, though it may seem like I did; but I did respond to someone whose mental capacity I esteem greatly; one who would see beyond the gravity of my words to see the intention of my heart through the power of the Holy Spirit that dwells in him.

When someone mentions your moniker, you have the power within you to be silent, pretending that it isn’t you. Silence, at the right time, is louder than noise.
Of course, I have the power within me to be silent, pretending that it isn’t me, but then the "someone mentions your moniker" will get away with committing the proverbial murder and I'll be complicit for keeping shtum.

Acehart:
It is sad many people, ignorantly, think you (i.e. MuttleyLaff) support homosexuality; you are acontext-centricman, I’ve got to know that; many people don’t and may never understand that context is key in understanding the scriptures.

German and Non-German Bibles will give you the true reflection of God’s heart when He gave those commands; only those who swim in the deep end enjoy the pool; those who swim in the shallow end, well, would do so only to enjoy the company of strangers rather than the pool - this is the case with your antagonists.
Smiling. Blessed are you, Acehart, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven.

Acehart:
I knew what those verses in Leviticus meant years ago; and they are closely related to the instructions where a man was commanded not to wear women’s clothing and vice-versa.
Please be kind enough to share all what you "knew what those verses in Leviticus meant years ago" sic. Also kindly please, explain the verses' connection and their commonality in regards how "they are closely related to the instructions where a man was commanded not to wear women’s clothing and vice-versa" sic

Acehart:
It would have been nice to know your understanding of those verses; personally, events have made me not enjoy the company of my friends, when we gather to study the scriptures; and an online fellowship is all we have for now - a means through which I thought you would edify me.
I dont mind being Bob the Builder. I am more than happy to iron sharpen iron edify a brother, because a candle doesn't lose light from lightning another candle but what I see written here, reiterating, is nothing other than, a sense of entitlement, wanting something, without so much having anything to do with any heavy lifting work and/or pushes first, by yourself. It is a common, pitiful lazybones, despairing trend and not good at all sight to behold. I wasn't handed anything to pick on the surface nor on a platter of gold, or with almost no effort to dig and dig deeper on my side

Here is the point I am making. Reiterating, midwives, assist in pushing, to help, to bring out. Midwives don't deliver, its the mother, while doing the pushes, who in fact, does the actual delivery by herself, with the midwife, acting as cheerleader, encouraging the mother to be, to take in deep breaths, give more hard and hard pushes. The midwife doesnt pluck a baby out of thin air, but she hands back to the brand newly mother, after being briefly cleaned up, the successfully safe delivered hale and hearty baby she all by herself pushed out, after so many deep breaths, grunts, grimaces, deep hard pushes and harder pushes attempts.

Acehart, do not laissez-faire those verses in Leviticus nor any other similar elsewhere, but push the latch, to open the hood/bonnet, lift it up fully and safely propped for you to now next, 2 Timothy 2:15 start to look underneath the hood and see inside exactly, specifically and precisely what the verses are talking about.

Acehart:
Please forgive me if I grieved you
The internet never forgets. You've not grieved me, so there is nothing for me to forgive you about, lmso, however borrowing the famous words, I'll say: "Go and sin no more", lmso
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Obedience? by Acehart: 12:17pm On Nov 18, 2020
[quote author=MuttleyLaff post=96159144]
Of course, I have the power within me to be silent, pretending that it isn’t me, but then the "someone mentions your moniker" will get away with committing the proverbial murder and I'll be complicit for keeping shtum.
Boju-Boju o. Oloro n bo. E para mo. Oju n ro mi o. Se ki n si?

I wonder how many of our traditional children’s games you played as a child; how many times were you caught or even beaten because you fell prey to the seeker or the caller (eg. awon kin pe ele meta). Ignore, if you can. If you can’t, don’t use a sledgehammer.

Smiling. Blessed are you, Acehart, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven.
undecided

Please be kind enough to share all what you "knew what those verses in Leviticus meant years ago" sic. Also kindly please, explain the verses' connection and their commonality in regards how "they are closely related to the instructions where a man was commanded not to wear women’s clothing and vice-versa" sic
I don’t I have time between today and the end of this year to do justice to those verses in Leviticus. But I want anyone reading this to those that those instructions were temple instructions. Since our temple is Christ, those abominations don’t exist today; if they ever exist, it can only be in places that reject Christ as the Temple of God, and replace Him with Cathedrals, Synagogues, Camps and buildings made of things mined from the earth.

I dont mind being Bob the Builder. I am more than happy to iron sharpen iron edify a brother, because a candle doesn't lose light from lightning another candle but what I see written here, reiterating, is nothing other than, a sense of entitlement, wanting something, without so much having anything to do with any heavy lifting work and/or pushes first, by yourself. It is a common, pitiful lazybones, despairing trend and not good at all sight to behold. I wasn't handed anything to pick on the surface nor on a platter of gold, or with almost no effort to dig and dig deeper on my side
Thanks. I’ll be glad when you sharpen me. I don’t find even a few that sharpen me but the Spirit has been faithful to me. Regarding the lazybones, the rot in our educational system is diabolic and yeye must smell. I doubt if many of the posters or commentators on Quora have more than a college degree but the depth of their research and the construction of their thoughts is outstanding. But here, people who haven’t read 500 words in the Bible or even a newspaper shout like they have comprehended all the wisdom of the heavens and the worlds. Their arrogance is a stench that bleach can’t quench.

Acehart, do not laissez-faire those verses in Leviticus nor any other similar elsewhere, but push the latch, to open the hood/bonnet, lift it up fully and safely propped for you to now next, 2 Timothy 2:15 start to look underneath the hood and see inside exactly, specifically and precisely what the verses are talking about.
Let’s see how it goes. I would touch those verses sooner or later- I have a lot of assignments to cover. Do you know what: someone sent me a private message, expressing concern about my support for your homosexuality views after I had been against it for a while. I told the person that if from the first day you were clear about your position, I would have stood with you from that day to this day.

The internet never forgets. You've not grieved me, so there is nothing for me to forgive you about, lmso, however borrowing the famous words, I'll say: "Go and sin no more", lmso
Thank you, sir
Re: What Does The Bible Say About Obedience? by MuttleyLaff:
Acehart:

Boju-Boju o. Oloro n bo. E para mo. Oju n ro mi o. Se ki n si?

I wonder how many of our traditional children’s games you played as a child; how many times were you caught or even beaten because you fell prey to the seeker or the caller (eg. awon kin pe ele meta). Ignore, if you can. If you can’t, don’t use a sledgehammer.

undecided

I don’t I have time between today and the end of this year to do justice to those verses in Leviticus. But I want anyone reading this to those that those instructions were temple instructions. Since our temple is Christ, those abominations don’t exist today; if they ever exist, it can only be in places that reject Christ as the Temple of God, and replace Him with Cathedrals, Synagogues, Camps and buildings made of things mined from the earth.

Thanks. I’ll be glad when you sharpen me. I don’t find even a few that sharpen me but the Spirit has been faithful to me. Regarding the lazybones, the rot in our educational system is diabolic and yeye must smell. I doubt if many of the posters or commentators on Quora have more than a college degree but the depth of their research and the construction of their thoughts is outstanding. But here, people who haven’t read 500 words in the Bible or even a newspaper shout like they have comprehended all the wisdom of the heavens and the worlds. Their arrogance is a stench that bleach can’t quench.

Let’s see how it goes. I would touch those verses sooner or later- I have a lot of assignments to cover. Do you know what: someone sent me a private message, expressing concern about my support for your homosexuality views after I had been against it for a while. I told the person that if from the first day you were clear about your position, I would have stood with you from that day to this day

Thank you, sir
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Dont worry bro, I'll make time for us.

No! Thank you, sir. Its long overdue that we surely should have broke bread together, have Greek salad with a tipple to rinse everything down together with. You have proven yourself as deserving to know
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