I sympathize with drivers but weep for those who invested a significant portion of their savings to purchase vehicles with the hope of starting a profitable business.

The business climate in Nigeria is unfriendly and uncertain, you can wake up tomorrow and discover you just lost everything.

I am an advocate of doing business online especially those that will not involve Nigeria regulations ..

For those currently enjoying the dollars while living in Nigeria, I am happy for you.

Nigeria government.... shame on you !!!

APC go finish us with multiple taxation oo

I don't get this, with the avalanche of unemployment we have and the thousands of job losses caused by the pandemic, the crazy government is hell-bent on making things harder. This is how these governments will send Uber/Bolt away the same way they killed opay and gokada. Doing business in this country is an extreme sport. Yet the youth are more focused on more important BBnaija.

garriguy:
Before Lagos would bring this policies, be sure they've already researched well on how much they actually pay in other countries.

by the way, check my signature on how to set up a modern garri processing facility

like they research well on how agbero collect money at bus stops in America, UK and Germany bah?

if that one will make sadiya faruq to pay my two month stipent, Good development. but if not, Chronic CORONA VIRUS will start to locate those behind Npower problem. Amen

Watch out, a new Lagos state sponsored app like "lagoscabify" will soon be unveiled.

With my main man tinubu as the largest share holder

Mynd44:
The problem is that these hailing companies say they are not employers of the drivers and the drivers work independently hence they can't pay operational taxes.

The same BS that has been happening in London and New York.

exactly....that's why they keep having problems around the world

Openbusiness4:
like they research well on how agbero collect money at bus stops in America, UK and Germany bah?

Or like how they researched how agberos are used in elections held in Europe to smuggle boxes and intimidate voters?

The head of that guy you quoted Don knock totally. What a dumbo.

What is wrong with Lagos State Always trying to frustrate businesses growth and development.

These regulations are draconian.

They just want to run these people out of business

ekwerendi:
Bad policy

Evil policy

helinues:


When government make this kind of law without considering the impact on the masses, get to know one of their buddies is about to start transportation business in Lagos

No long story.
The money for the bullion vans to Bourdillon needs to increase for the 2023 campaign.
Lagosians, being the beasts of burden that they have been since 1999 for Ogbeni Ojuyobo, will swallow the bullshit as usual.
Life goes on, even with increasing suffering that is hidden by ogboju smiles.

Where is this country going to .The government did not create Job..uber and bolt has helped to reduce unemployment..Now government has being another issue...i guess the government does not know it will fall on this masses not uber and bolt

anonimi:


No long story.
The money for the bullion vans to Bourdillon needs to increase for the 2023 campaign.
Lagosians, being the beasts of burden that they have been since 1999 for Ogbeni Ojuyobo, will swallow the bullshit as usual.
Life goes on, even with increasing suffering that is hidden by ogboju smiles.

Enough of typing gibberish all the time.

Try and be creative.. Don't let people assume you are mumu with this repeated stale lines..

Mynd44:
The problem is that these hailing companies say they are not employers of the drivers and the drivers work independently hence they can't pay operational taxes.

The same BS that has been happening in London and New York.

Are there many similarities in the operating environment in Lagos on one hand, and in New York and London on the other?
In terms of roads, street signs, economic power of riders etc?

helinues:
Enough of typing gibberish all the time.

Try and be creative.. Don't let people assume you are mumu with this repeated stale lines..

How is what you describe as stale different from your comment that I quoted

heazylife:
Where is this country going to .The government did not create Job..uber and bolt has helped to reduce unemployment..Now government has being another issue...i guess the government does not know it will fall on this masses not uber and bolt

The government knows that it will fall on the masses in various ways.
The government also knows that the masses won’t do jack, so why not squeeze them more?

Lagos is becoming too difficult to live-in at the rate the government is going, hope they don't crash the economy by the time people start leaving the state.

Someone said the amount he spends on danfo bus fares from egbeda to Lekki or even egbeda to Surulere in a day, can sponsor a trip for a week in other states, like Ibadan, Kano(even keke drop)

anonimi:


Are there many similarities in the operating environment in Lagos on one hand, and in New York and London on the other?
In terms of roads, street signs, economic power of riders etc?

The issues stand on that a lot of these payments should be paid by the company and not the driver. A lot of these taxes are already being paid by the yellow taxes conveniently and the buses because they are individuals.

If you go through the article, you will find out that the parent companies have refused to attend any more meetings, why? They will convininetly put the drivers out and say the drivers should pay the levies as they are not employees of their company which is just BS.

They do this in every country and these causes large issues with everyone

anonimi:


How is what you describe as stale different from your comment that I quoted

Stop struggling buddy...

Stop seeking unnecessary attention with your gibberish attached pictures..

mrjojo:
I don't get this, with the avalanche of unemployement we have and the thousand of jobs losses caused the pandemic, the crazy govenment is hell bent on making things harder. This is how these govenment will send Uber/Bolt away same way they killed opay and gokada. Doing business in this country is an extreme sport. Yet the youth are more focused on more important BBnaija.

Gullible lazy youths..

Care less bout dem

Esseite:
Talking from experience as a fleet manager:

This is absolute madness, you could have just told new entrants not to even think venturing into the business..this may obviously not be a problem for uber and bolt, but if this eventually has a ripple effect on the drivers via increase of service commission, they can kiss their ass goodbye from Nigerian fleet managers whom are the power house of the ride-hailing companies, of which many are pulling out in droves today..

- Total purchase of a (non-rusted) regular corolla including registrations and starter pack/kit - 2m
- Average income /week (full time) - N100,000
- minimum Fueling/week - N30,000
- Commission remittance (currently) - N25,000
- average e-hail coy commission - 25% - N25,000

- Fleet managers take home/week - (N25,000)..
Monthly sum - (N100,000)

inevitable expense projections:
Service - (N8,000 monthly)
- Monthly tire change projection (used) (N7,000)
- Monthly repairs projection (dollar rise in parts) - (15,000)
- Fines/levies/impound/tolls provision - (5,000)
- Driver short pays and run-aways - (5,000)
- Logistics, tracking & follow ups - (5,000)
- Monthly Comprehensive insurance - (7,000)

Average monthly income after deductions - N50,000

Vehicle replacement - 2m/N50,000 = 40mths (4 years approx with all things being equal) which is almost impossible for a car virtually 18hrs on the road.. it may encounter major accidents, engine change, gear box change, AC issues during the period which does not just cut down massively on the income, but increases the capital recovery period of the vehicle aswell beyond the 40mths..

With this projections alongside increase in dollar /fuel which directly affects repair cost, reduces return, coupled with the shrinking economy that reduces riders, who in his right senses would remain in such business if a service charge is increased..

Hmmm.
Detailed explanation.
The government is just bent on killing businesses. They should be thinking of waivers, not over-taxing citizens and businesses.
They are motivated by the loot they will carry at the end of the day

sinaj:
Naija the destiny killer.

Tufia!

we the Uber drivers are not happy with the Lagos State rules

Mynd44:
The problem is that these hailing companies say they are not employers of the drivers and the drivers work independently hence they can't pay operational taxes.

The same BS that has been happening in London and New York.

Why not talk about the new taxes imposed on them??

Uber is currently a loss making company. They will pull out. Its that simple. They not making a lot of money from 9ja sef. This is what you get when simps who do not understand a particular value chain make stupid laws. And for all of you talking yada yada, uber and bolt are correct. People do private hires all the time. Abeg emeka come and drop me at the airport, you get someone to drive your car to take your somewhere and u pay the person. The app just lets you connect to more people for this kind of stuff and make some more money. If you have your personal connect, same thing. Government already gets taxes from vehicle registration, license renewals, tolls e.t.c. people are taken off the job market and also mechanics and part sellers have jobs. People are able to drop their cars and get to wherever in comfort. So less cars on the road. Ban them and see a proliferation of cars and more people buy more cars so they can drive in comfort. Are they expecting lagosians to go back to their trashy dirty, hot yellow cabs? Not gonna happen. People seldom downgrade. With the forex issues we have which will also reduce their income, trust me these guys would bail. The most they can do is charge Hackney permits and then maybe vat. But nothing else.

garriguy:
Before Lagos would bring this policies, be sure they've already researched well on how much they actually pay in other countries.

by the way, check my signature on how to set up a modern garri processing facility

garry guy how much

Openbusiness4:
Evil policy

Is there anything more than evil??
That's how the policy is like...

garriguy:
Before Lagos would bring this policies, be sure they've already researched well on how much they actually pay in other countries.

by the way, check my signature on how to set up a modern garri processing facility

Other countries? Where there is 24 hour light; Near instant response by Police in case of violent crime; stable price of products; GOOD ROADS; 24 hours emergency hospital and ambulance;
Or which countries?

Esseite:
Talking from experience as a fleet manager:

This is absolute madness, you could have just told new entrants not to even think venturing into the business..this may obviously not be a problem for uber and bolt, but if this eventually has a ripple effect on the drivers via increase of service commission, they can kiss their ass goodbye from Nigerian fleet managers whom are the power house of the ride-hailing companies, of which many are pulling out in droves today..

- Total purchase of a (non-rusted) regular corolla including registrations and starter pack/kit - 2m
- Average income /week (full time) - N100,000
- minimum Fueling/week - N30,000
- Commission remittance (currently) - N25,000
- average e-hail coy commission - 25% - N25,000
- Drivers earning 20k or less for being 112hrs on the road out of 168hrs, that is terrible but everyone is trying to survive..

- Fleet managers take home/week - (N25,000)..
Monthly sum - (N100,000)

inevitable expense projections:
Service - (N8,000 monthly)
- Monthly tire change projection (used) (N7,000)
- Monthly repairs projection (dollar rise in parts) - (15,000)
- Fines/levies/impound/tolls provision - (5,000)
- Driver short pays and run-aways - (5,000) or could cost you a whole week if not two.
- Logistics, tracking & follow ups - (5,000)
- Monthly Comprehensive insurance - (7,000)

Average monthly income after deductions - N50,000

Vehicle replacement - 2m/N50,000 = 40mths (if it's a full-time business, it's impossible to save 100% of that income..(4 years approx with all things being equal is almost impossible) for a car virtually 18hrs on the road.. it may encounter major accidents, engine change, gear box change, AC issues during the period which does not just cut down massively on the income, but increases the capital recovery period of the vehicle aswell beyond the projected 40mths..

With this projections alongside increase in dollar /fuel which directly affects repair cost, reduces return, coupled with the shrinking economy that reduces riders, who in his right senses would remain in such business if a service charge is increased on both fleet manager and driver?..

Nice analysis..... our government are never reasonable with their policies.
Imagine throwing many guys back to the street. Are they not aware of the resultant effect?

Aystarz:


Or like how they researched how agberos are used in elections held in Europe to smuggle boxes and intimidate voters?

The head of that guy you quoted Don knock totally. What a dumbo.

don't mind him. When dey bring evil policy, their zombie supporters will be quoting abroad for us as an excuse to cover for evil, as if we are super stupid and don't know what abroad is like. Nonsense and agbero pipu

25 million isn't much for Uber, they pay tax in other European countries, why is Africa different?

helinues:


When government make this kind of law without considering the impact on the masses, get to know one of their buddies is about to start transportation business in Lagos

APC needs to be kicked out ASAP.