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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 2:59pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
salford1:Suppose the KkK guys in those rallies were paid to appear in videos or photos? How come no one doxxed them. Remember in 2016 Scott Foval a DNC operative was hiring troublemakers to Trump rallies. On October 18, 2016, O'Keefe released a series of videos on Project Veritas' YouTube channel titled "Rigging the Election" that apparently showed former national field director Scott Foval of Americans United for Change discussing planting agitators, including "mentally ill people that we pay to do shit" in front of Donald Trump rallies to ask questions near reporters, a common practice known as "bird dogging". [122][123] Foval also said "We've been bussing people in to deal with you fuckin' assholes for fifty years and we're not going to stop now." Foval later said he was talking about busing people to rallies. [124] Foval went on to discuss the legal consequences of voter fraud: "Let's just say, in theory, if a major investigation came up of major vote fraud that way, how would they prove it? ... If there's a bus involved, that changes the dynamic ... You can prove conspiracy if there's a bus, but if there are cars, it is much harder to prove." Both guys Scott Foval and Creamer were fired after the video was published on youtube. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Minent: 3:15pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
salford1: The question you're asking basilico is kind of funny. Its like asking you why is Robert Byrd (proclaimed KKK member ) a Democrat and not Republican? 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Goodvibes007: 3:38pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
Minent:Salford1 asked a very valid question which Basilico has been finding it hard to dance around it. You are trying to act smart. I am coming. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Goodvibes007: 3:38pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
Luke 15 vs 10: Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth. Social media users have been sharing a photograph online and claiming that it shows Senator Robert Byrd as the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan (KKK). The photograph does not portray Byrd. Byrd was never the Grand Wizard of the KKK. Examples of the post can be seen here and here . The posts include text that reads: “Historical fact: Longest serving Democrat Senator Robert Byrd died in 2010. Hilary called him her mentor. Obama gave him his eulogy at his funeral. Senator Byrd was the Grand Wizard-of the KKK.” Reuters Fact Check previously debunked a similar claim saying Byrd was Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan in a photo with Joe Biden, visible here . Robert Byrd served as U.S. Representative for the state of West Virginia from 1953 to 1959, and as a U.S. Senator from 1959 until his death in 2010 ( here ). Byrd was not a Grand Wizard of the Klan. He was, however, a former organizer and member of the KKK. A Washington Post article reviewing Byrd’s memoir explains these years in more detail ( here ). Byrd later renounced his membership to the organization, although his early record in Congress on race and civil rights was mixed. For example, Byrd partook in a lengthy filibuster effort against the 1964 Civil Rights Act here . A Democrat but conservative in values, Byrd also criticized President Bill Clinton’s decision to push for the legalization of gay marriage decades later ( here ). In a 2006 CNN interview, Byrd expressed regret for the filibuster and called his time in the Klan the greatest mistake of his life ( here ). In 2005, Byrd commented on his past membership of the Klan in his memoir and in an interview with the Washington Post said, "I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times … and I don't mind apologizing over and over again. I can't erase what happened." (Read more here) During the 2008 presidential race, Byrd endorsed Barack Obama ( here ). At the time of his death, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), a leading civil rights organization formed in 1909 for the advancement of racial equality and elimination of racial discrimination, issued a statement mourning his passing. The NAACP’s President and CEO remarked: "Senator Byrd reflects the transformative power of this nation. Senator Byrd went from being an active member of the KKK to a being a stalwart supporter of the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act and many other pieces of seminal legislation that advanced the civil rights and liberties of our country”. ( /33hn5V3 ) Hillary Clinton did refer to Byrd as a friend and mentor ( here ) and former President Barack Obama did give a eulogy for Byrd at his funeral ( here ). A reverse Google Image search of the photograph in the claim leads to a blog written by author John Ramsey Miller. In a 2009 blog post, Miller talks about his experience setting up a portrait studio at “racist gatherings” (here). He explains: “I did it to capture images of Klansmen, Skinheads, and Identity Christians, not because I was attracted to their speeches. I was a portrait photographer and I was interested in intense groups of people for series.” His work and story was published in Tropic, The Miami Herald’s Sunday magazine, visible here . The photograph of the man in the claim is featured in the blog. Miller captioned the photograph “Grand Dragon of the Florida KKK 1990”. It is not Byrd, who was already serving as a U.S. Senator that year (photographs of Byrd around 1990 are visible here , see Senator Byrd with United States Presidents). By this time, Byrd had been a prominent figure in national politics for decades. Miller explained his process for this series on his blog, saying “I’d ask for the subjects to sign a release and I’d give them the B&W portraits, which I put fixative on. What I didn’t bother to tell them was that after the picture was pulled, there was a high-quality negative left over, which I could print later in a darkroom. I suppose the subjects, most of which were hardly rocket scientists, believed they had the only prints, although I never said as much.” VERDICT False. Senator Robert Byrd was a member of the Ku Klux Klan, but not the “Grand Wizard”. The photograph shows a portrait of the Grand Dragon of the Florida KKK in 1990. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-robert-byrd-photo-grand-wiz-idUSKBN23O2K1 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by SonofLincoln: 3:41pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
basilico:Why don't you stop making a foool of yourself with your blind support of a vile racist Pig named trump. Do you know better than 51% of Americans who say in the latest Quinnipiac Poll that Trump is a racist. Why do you think over 90% of African Americans will vote against him on Nov 3rd. You know better than the Americans that have known of his bigotry and hatred before you even know where America is on the world map. You just keep on spouting the garbage and people are trying to correct you but you call them liars why you are the real liar just like the Pathological lying racist Trump you worship. 4 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Minent: 3:41pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
Goodvibes007: The question is two sided and can be view from different angle. No big deal |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by SonofLincoln: 3:47pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
Minent:You guys don't know a damn thing. True, Robert Byrd was an old Democrat from West Virginia who was truly a KKK member in his youth and he changed his way and apologized till he died in his early 90s. Meanwhile, at the same time , Sen Strom Thurmond was a KKK Republican Senator from South Carolina who went to his grave with his bigotry and hate. That's the post now held by Senator Ms Leningrad Lindsey Graham a closet homosexuality who constantly licks the real of Trump. What I am saying is that Senator Byrd apologised for his mistakes in his young days unlike the racists and bigots in Republikkklan party who are still supporting Nazis and Klans. 4 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Goodvibes007: 3:49pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
Minent:No. You were comparing apples to oranges. We are talking about unrepentant modern day racist nazi scums like stormfront, proudboys, 3 percenters, kkk, nazi boys e.t.c all lining up behind trump in this day and era. It is also believed that Trump also sends subtle messages and dog whistles in support of their actions. That was the question Salford1 was asking. I hope we are clear on this issue. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Goodvibes007: 3:59pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
SonofLincoln:Whataboutism hardly works in public discourse. I wonder why people use it in argument. I guess to deflect the discourse without directly refuting or disproving their argument. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Minent: 4:03pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
Alright then, but from what I read so far Sen Strom Thurmond was formerly a Democrat before switching party. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 4:30pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
sexylassie2: My goodness, what kind of rubbish is this!!! 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 4:32pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
Mikora: Same reason why Republicans should leave Hunter Biden out of political discussion |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 4:43pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
Joe Biden Visits Childhood Home in Scranton, Pennsylvania https://www.c-span.org/video/?473701-4/joe-biden-visits-childhood-home-scranton-pennsylvania https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghdnv7OmBdk |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 4:49pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
SonofLincoln: The polls are skewed. Trump does not seem worried about naysayer polls. He has his team of several thousands waging a door to door campaign. More so in battleground states. That gives an exact indication of the final result. Hold your horses. We saw how polls lied for Clinton. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 4:50pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
Seems the indication of who will be Joe Biden's running mate is gradually coming out in the open...early days yet: The Biden campaign has just announced that Karine Jean-Pierre will be the chief of staff for Biden's running mate. She's the black lady in pink dress on stage with Kamala Harris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kfKLtt6ZG0 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 5:07pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
Minent: At last finally. He was a senator 54-64 Switched parties to Republican and remained as senator till 2003. Did he change his stance on segregation? Or did he realise that running for the party that was half hearted ... I have just seen this . A magnet for controversy during his nearly half-century Senate career, Thurmond switched parties, primarily because of his vehement opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and endorsed Republican presidential candidate Barry Goldwater. In the months before switching, he had "been critical of the Democratic Administration for enactment of the Civil Rights Law", That tells you all. He was a proponent of segregation like the democrats, then realised that it would not take him anywhere . Note he switched from the stance taken by the party of slavery to the party that emancipated slaves. Very good example. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 5:07pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
Republicans On Reddit Are Sharing The Things That Made Them Stop Supporting Trump https://www.buzzfeed.com/stephenlaconte/trump-supporters-share-regrets-reddit-2020-election Last week, a Reddit thread by user PlG3 posed a question to the internet: "If you voted for Donald Trump in 2016 but won't in 2020, what changed your mind?" The thread quickly went viral, garnering nearly 30,000 replies in just a few days. Here are some of the top-voted responses from self-described former Trump supporters: 1. "I was barely 18 when I voted. I was still a senior in high school. I grew up in an extremely conservative town with opinionated parents and a lack of 'access' to the outside world (I wasn't allowed on any social media). Then I went to college and met people of other races/creeds/sexualities, and I learned empathy." 2. "I voted and then went to the grocery store with a couple of my younger children. There was a very nice young Hispanic kid working and he helped me put stuff in my car so he could collect my buggy. He noticed my 'voted' sticker on my child and asked me who I voted for. I was instantly hesitant to answer truthfully and I realized I felt shame." —texasmama5 3. "When he appointed a Goldman Sachs executive as Secretary of the Treasury...drain the what? All downhill from there." —Deftone007 4. "I was 24. I’ve grown. Matured. Found empathy for others. Honestly, I started to grow frustrated with the constant tweeting, lies, and whataboutism. I also stopped watching Fox News." —based_nero_ 5. "The gassing of protesters for a photo op at a church was the final nail in a coffin riddled with them." 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 5:12pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
feedthenation:It's startling that till now Sleepy Joe is yet to announce his official running mate.....Or is Joe himself about to be replaced |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 5:31pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
feedthenation: Reddit quarantined their subreddit the_donald. They moved on to www.thedonald.win Reddit is mostly liberal. especially /pol |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 5:36pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
sexylassie2: @sexylassie2 Your valuable knowledge and political analysis is urgently needed by Trump supporters Diamond and Silk on their new show: Pro-Trump duo Diamond and Silk launch new program on Newsmax TV https://thehill.com/homenews/media/511353-pro-trump-duo-diamond-and-silk-launch-new-program-on-newsmax-tv Diamond and Silk launched a new program on Newsmax TV over the weekend, four months after Fox News parted ways with the staunch supporters of President Trump. The duo, whose real names are Lynnette Hardaway and Rochelle Richardson, debuted "Diamond and Silk Crystal Clear" on Saturday night on the cable channel. Newsmax TV — run by Chris Ruddy, a friend of President Trump's who once contributed $1 million to the Clinton Foundation — has added several shows to its lineup in recent months, including former White House press secretary Sean Spicer's "Spicer & Co." and former Fox-5 "Good Day New York" co-host Greg Kelly for "Greg Kelly Reports. 1 Like
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by saxywale1: 5:40pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
basilico:You want to know Trump more than Trump himself. Liar liar pants on fire. I saved this from previous pages on this thread. Trump has always been worried about polls..He has shown that he is unstable as well. He can switch sides in the blink of an eye. He would only praise those who worship him or help propagate his numerous lies. If CNN starts spreading his lies, he would quickly call CNN amazing. I can't wait for the election to be over, so that you lots can go and face your nemesis - Buhari. 4 Likes 1 Share
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by saxywale1: 5:40pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by saxywale1: 5:49pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
basilico:Apparently, this post flew over your head. SonofLincoln: |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by zendi: 5:52pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
kokaneprodigy: ... actually, aka retardd-bastardSonofLincoln. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Minent: 6:03pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
basilico:So in summary his racist views in politics Never started as a Republican. Good one! 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by zendi: 6:07pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
feedthenation: Junk!!! It's well known, Biden is in the pocket of China, not Trump. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by SonofLincoln: 6:23pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
basilico:You are just a follow follow guy as they say in Nigeria. Still harping on 2016. Are you the same now as you were in 2016. 167.000 Americans dead of Trumpvirus, 30 million Americans unemployed, and National Debt is running sky high and jokers like you are still foaming in the mouth about 2016. The polls to you supporters of the racist Pig is flawed if it doesn't support the Pig you worship. Big surprise coming on Nov 3rd. I belong to a group in Chicagoland that already registered over 150.000 as at last evening and we are still registering more. That situation is going on all over the Fruited Plains. 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by SonofLincoln: 6:25pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
zendi:Bunch of hungry never do well rats. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 6:58pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
SonofLincoln: What is a door to door campaign. Thats the best poll you can ever do. Not twitter likes. Is it only America where wuhan has caused casualties? And by the way on this matter, how many people have died of influenza this year as compared to the same time last year? These deaths are to be blamed on Trump too. See the big picture.. There have been 63 shootings so far this month of July, compared to 28 shootings in July 2019, according to Portland police. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 7:04pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
saxywale1: Who believes DNC polls in this time and day? |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by SonofLincoln: 7:11pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
basilico:Door to Door campaign has been going on in America for over 200 years. You think in your mind that only Trump campaign is doing door to door campaign. Infact, Biden door to door campaign is much stronger than trump's because Americans are coming out strongly against the Divider in Chief Trump. Nov 3rd is around the corner and when the Racist Pig loses in a landslide, we will see your excuse then. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by zendi: 7:28pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
SonofLincoln: Retaarded area urchin who thinks that American Visa is the ultimate achievement in life. |
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