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Speaking facts...

Tammy started 25 league games and got subbed out 16 times! He got subbed in on 9 ocassions majorly b'cos hé lost his place to Giroud with time.

8 out of those 16 times he got taken off, he didn't score or assist in those games. I guess he was always injured those 8 times he didn't score and got yanked off.

In the Champions league, Tammy also started 7 times out of Chelsea's 8 games. And was subbed out in 4 of them.





On Osimhen, this guy started 25 league games and only got subbed in twice. He was taken off/subbed out only on 5 ocassions and 3 out of those 5 occasions, Osimhen scored or assisted goals. I will not even bother elaborating those two times he didn't score.


In the Champions league, he started five for Lille and finished them! He was NEVER taken off.






Now from these, it is obvious one had a team relying so heavily on him. One literally carried the team but the other was having it up and down and seeing his game time reduced partly due to poor form and losing his place to a much older Striker in Giroud. And yes, he still got some goals... Who wouldn't in a high quality side like Chelsea in 45 whooping games?? (Read on and you will see how I arrived at number 45 ).


In Summary, Tammy started 33 games in all competitions in 2019/2020 and Osimhen also started 33 games in all competitions.

Osimhen got subbed in only 5 times in all comps.

Tammy got subbed in 14 times.


In total, Osimhen made 38 appearances while Tammy made 45 appearances.

Tammy played more games but got less minutes b'cos several times he simply didn't perform and got yanked off 8 times out of 16 sub-outs in the league alone where he didn't score nor assist. He also lost his place to Giroud at some point hence his game time got hit hard!





So who are the biased ones?


Enough talk please... Moving on.

TheLoneCitizen:
Ridiculous transfer story here.

Iheanacho to FENERBAHCE?!


https://sportwitness.co.uk/club-make-offer-leicester-city-attacker-deal-worth-e12m/

Wetin be dis?

Bia Citizen... Take your time...

charlesemeka85:
he turned them down few days ago. Keen on remaining in Spain or a move to another top league

Better

Arabiandude:
Oga you are just supporting what even you know isn't right.
In top flight football for Chelsea this season, Tammy was in form at the beginning of the season and that's how and why he scored most of those his goals but as time went him, it showed that he was just inform and not class that made him to score those goals.
Class wise, Tammy is way below Osimhen, abi nor be the same Tammy make all of us they watch for Chelsea? There is nothing special about him as a top 9, but same can't be said about Osimhen who seems to play like a Diego Costa kind of striker... Tammy as a top 9 is known for nothing, no special attribute to his name of style of play...more like Makinwa

But stats don't agree with you na
Somebody scored 18 goals in a season and he is not class?
he managed 3 goals in 10 since the restart despite not starting a large part of these matches

The Classless Tammy Abraham has better shot %, better pass % ,better cross accuracy.. he even has better, wait for it, Dribble % than Osimhen

Thank God for Stats that came to eradicate arguments that are based on emotions

The Tammy Abraham that I watched this season is Class if Osimhen is Class

Edopesin:
But stats don't agree with what you na
Somebody scored 18 goals in a season and he is not class?
he managed 3 goals in 10 since the restart despite not starting a large part of these matches

The Classless Tammy Abraham has better shot %, better pass % ,better cross accuracy.. he even has better, wait for it, Dribble % than Osimhen

Thank God for Stats that came to eradicate arguments that are based on emotions

The Tammy Abraham that I watched this season is Class if Osimhen is Class

Otemwen, abeg show us these stats you just mentioned where Tammy bettered Osimhen.

Arabiandude:
Otemwen, abeg show us these stats you just mentioned where Tammy bettered Osimhen.

E shock you? E shock me too

It's on the internet, a quick Google search will show you in all it's glory

Edopesin, I believe you have watched both Tammy and Osimhen play on countless occasions?
If as a coach, you are given whatever amount to sign a striker who must carry the burden of your entire team and you are left between Tammy and Osimhen, who will you sign to your team?

Secondly, with what they both played this last season, if Tammy had turned up for the SE and Rohr is left to pick just 1 top 9 to start a match or matches, who between Tammy and Osimhen will you advice or even vouch for Rohr to start?

Edopesin:
E shock you? E shock me too

It's on the internet, a quick Google search will show you in all it's glory

Oga e nor shock me because na lie.
Even if na truth, Laporte has better stat compared to Van Dijk, those that means Laporte is better than Van Dijk.

Abeg my Google nor they work, help me search for those stats you mentioned and upload them for everyone here to see

Arabiandude:
Edopesi.n, I believe you have watched both Tammy and Osimhen play on countless occasions?
If as a coach, you are given whatever amount to sign a striker who must carry the burden of your entire team and you are left between Tammy and Osimhen, who will you sign to your team?

Secondly, with what they both played this last season, if Tammy had turned up for the SE and Rohr is left to pick just 1 top 9 to start a match or matches, who between Tammy and Osimhen will you advice or even vouch for Rohr to start?

As a coach with a team like the type you described I'll take Osimhen because of his work rate but with a team where I have capable midfielders that will supply ball for the striker to finish off I'll go with Tammy

Osimhen is also a better choice for the Super Eagles

Edopesin:
As a coach with a team like the type you described I'll take Osimhen because of his work rate but with a team where I have capable midfielders that will supply ball for the striker to finish off I'll go with Tammy

Osimhen is also a better choice for the Super Eagles

And you think if Osimhen have that capable midfielders he won't score X2 than Tammy?
Watch their both goals, you would see that Tammy is more like a(I don't even know what best attributes to describe him as a striker) but Osimhen is like Drogba and Costa in one and also a better finisher

Arabiandude:
And you think if Osimhen have that capable midfielders he won't score X2 than Tammy?
Watch their both goals, you would see that Tammy is more like a(I don't even know what best attributes to describe him as a striker) but Osimhen is like Drogba and Costa in one and also a better finisher

Football is a game of result not what you think and that's why I don't take stats like expected goals, expected assists and the likes seriously

Abraham is represented in Blue and Osimhen Green

TheSuperNerd:
Speaking facts...

Tammy started 25 league games and got subbed out 16 times! He got subbed in on 9 ocassions majorly b'cos hé lost his place to Giroud with time.

8 out of those 16 times he got taken off, he didn't score or assist in those games. I guess he was always injured those 8 times he didn't score and got yanked off.

In the Champions league, Tammy also started 7 times out of Chelsea's 8 games. And was subbed out in 4 of them.





On Osimhen, this guy started 25 league games and only got subbed in twice. He was taken off/subbed out only on 5 ocassions and 3 out of those 5 occasions, Osimhen scored or assisted goals. I will not even bother elaborating those two times he didn't score.


In the Champions league, he started five for Lille and finished them! He was NEVER taken off.






Now from these, it is obvious one had a team relying so heavily on him. One literally carried the team but the other was having it up and down and seeing his game time reduced partly due to poor form and losing his place to a much older Striker in Giroud. And yes, he still got some goals... Who wouldn't in a high quality side like Chelsea in 45 whooping games?? (Read on and you will see how I arrived at number 45 ).


In Summary, Tammy started 33 games in all competitions in 2019/2020 and Osimhen also started 33 games in all competitions.

Osimhen got subbed in only 5 times in all comps.

Tammy got subbed in 14 times.


In total, Osimhen made 38 appearances while Tammy made 45 appearances.

Tammy played more games but got less minutes b'cos several times he simply didn't perform and got yanked off 8 times out of 16 sub-outs in the league alone where he didn't score nor assist. He also lost his place to Giroud at some point hence his game time got hit hard!





So who are the biased ones?


Enough talk please... Moving on.

I rate Osimhen higher ATM but your analysis is biased.

Make una dey do una analysis dey go. Tammy Abraham remains a very average player that doesn't deserve a place in Chelsea's starting lineup. Abi na back of tv una dey watch..He has zero influence in games, no hold up play, no pace and the motherfuuccker can't even give a decent pass. With all of Lampard's liking fo his brood of english chickens, he knew that tammy won't win him games. So Abeg if you see truth, talk am and stop burdening us with 'stats'. Tammy Abraham is shiite, i repeat shiit.

A lot of bitter people here because person no gree play for Naija

All of una dey shout stats, Edopesin don drop stats now and base on the stat Abraham better pass Osihmen for everything but I know say una Agenda go still twist am to una taste

Neobulletzz:
A lot of bitter people here because person no gree play for Naija

All of una dey shout stats, Edopesin don drop stats now and base on the stat Abraham better pass Osihmen for everything but I know say una Agenda go still twist am to una taste

Lol

andrewbaba44:
Lol

Aswear Bro, personally I should pick Osihmen but all of dem dey bias and they are bitter Tammy is not playing for Nigeria

viciati:
Make una dey do una analysis dey go. Tammy Abraham remains a very average player that doesn't deserve a place in Chelsea's starting lineup. Abi na back of tv una dey watch..He has zero influence in games, no hold up play, no pace and the motherfuuccker can't even give a decent pass. With all of Lampard's liking fo his brood of english chickens, he knew that tammy won't win him games. So Abeg if you see truth, talk am and stop burdening us with 'stats'. Tammy Abraham is shiite, i repeat shiit.

You sound bitter and you are not making any single sense

Did anybody even tell you Tammy is above average or world class ?

Guy go sit down for bush

Neobulletzz:
Aswear Bro, personally I should pick Osihmen but all of dem dey bias and they are bitter Tammy is not playing for Nigeria

Thank you

All I see is people being pained that Tammy refused to play for naija

I pray ebere eze join an epl team soon and turn them down ,you will see how they will speak bad of him

Neobulletzz:
Aswear Bro, personally I should pick Osihmen but all of dem dey bias and they are bitter Tammy is not playing for Nigeria

Same here
Imagine someone said Osimhen is among top 5 young strikers but Tammy is no where near

which kain talk be that one na

Baba i will say what i want, its my opinion. You are also entitled to yours.I have said my own, if you no like am go hug transformer.

andrewbaba44:
You sound bitter and you are not making any single sense

Did anybody even tell you Tammy is above average or world class ?

Guy go sit down for bush

Prince of Napoli

Our very own

maidaboi:
chelsea fans don't rate the guy anymore

Says who?

charlesemeka85:
he rejected them few days ago

The same ones who reported his rejection are now reporting he is keen on the move.

https://www.completesports.com/awaziem-rejects-loan-move-to-turkish-club-rizespor/

https://www.completesports.com/turkish-club-rizespor-desperate-to-sign-awaziem-on-loan/

You can't trust Nigerian media. Rizedeyiz is a close source to Rizespor.

Danielnino00:
In Salah's first season in the premier league, he scored 32 out of Liverpool's 84 premier league goals..that's really roughly 38%.. does that make Liverpool a poor team at that time?
If u check Barca and Real Madrid goal chart for the past 6 seaaons, u would notice that Messi and Ronaldo contributed to the bulk of those goals..
U can go further down to the premier league and look at Leicester with Vardy,Spurs with Kane, Arsenal with Aubameyang.. are those poor teams?

U have no point here.... Osimhen's abilities was what made him such an important player to Lille..the same can't be said of Tammy who was benched by an old Giroud..
And I will say it again, Chelsea's transfer ban was what gave Tammy the opportunity to get a starting shirt at Chelsea..
Everybody knows that Chelsea under Roman Abrahamovic hardly give youth players a chance! They spend heavily!.. Tammy probably would be back in the championship by now if not for the ban... That's the simple truth!

Regarding Napoli, there are no assumptions there...just the facts... Napoli is an elite team in Europe!
If you don't know,u can ask Klopp... I'm sure u have his phone number...he will tell u how good they are!


To ur last paragraph, let me repeat it again, Osimhen is a better team player than Tammy...

Aside the goals, he got 4 assists and created 5 big chances!

Tammy on the other hand got just 1 assists and created just 1 chance!

Osimhen is also versatile...He can play from the wings and is good at dropping deep to hustle for the ball.. if that doesn't prove that he is a better team player,maybe the word "team player" has another meaning in Peckham..

Salah's first season was with Chelsea but he was poor.

forgiveness:
Says who?

Says him and his beer parlour/ ogogoro crew

forgiveness:
Salah's first season was with Chelsea but he was poor.

Salah wasnt given a chance at chelsea so i dont think i will call him poor there

andrewbaba44:
Thank you

All I see is people being pained that Tammy refused to play for naija

I pray ebere eze join an epl team soon and turn them down ,you will see how they will speak bad of him

No. .you all got it wrong. Some here were angry due to the way he turned us down and not because he turned us down.

Edopesin:
Same here
Imagine someone said Osimhen is among top 5 young strikers but Tammy is no where near

which kain talk be that one na

No mind all those ones jare

mostob:
No. .you all got it wrong. Some here were angry due to the way he turned us down and not because he turned us down.

Lol

I just smile most times because they all know the truth in their minds despite pouring out their anger

Danielnino00:
Tammy isn't the first neither will he be the last player to reject Nigeria..so this your "they are hating him" doesn't hold water...

U are accusing others of bias,but u forgot to mention that the reason Tammy played feweer minutes was because he lost his starting role to a 33 years old Giroud..

Have you forgotten that the same 33 years old Giroud lost out to Abraham at the beginning of the season? Can you now remember?

Edopesin:
Same here
Imagine someone said Osimhen is among top 5 young strikers but Tammy is no where near

which kain talk be that one na

Dortmund signed Haaland
Chelsea signed Werner
Napoli signed Osimhen
Barca was interested in Lautaro at some point.
Judging from the above transfers,the statement is not far from the truth bro. I rate Tammy too,to score 15+ goals in the EPL no be beans. Even our own Laca no fit do am. But what makes him to be rated below others is that his all round play is poor. Giroud may not give you 20 goals but his influence at the final third can not be underrated. You grab now?