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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 5:44pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
IDENNAA: ok sir See as people narratives dey change with the weather 1 Like
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 5:47pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
IDENNAA: If you are good its easy |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 5:47pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
TheSuperNerd: Na wa ooo All these our naija league players sha |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 5:50pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
andrewbaba44:He should be in Egypt or one of those African clubs. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 5:51pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
Naah. Was in Tunisia. He was released. He's a free agent for now until something pops up for him. mostob: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 5:52pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
TheSuperNerd: Great analysis here, mate, but I'm afraid it's flawed and not conclusive. A player being substituted out doesn't always signify he's poor, it signifies he might have good competition. To illustrate: Aguero started 18 games but has been substituted out 10 times, only once has that sub been on account of an injury. On the other hand, Harry Kane has started 29 games and has been substituted out just 3 times, never on account on injury. But when starting(bar injury) Aguero scores in 53% of his games. Kane scores in 48%. Aguero scored 16 times . Kane scored 18 times. This obviously shows that Aguero was substituted a lot because of the competition of the squad. But Kane was not substituted enough because of zero competition. This stat is not fair on Tammy because he has scored 9 in 25 starts compared with Osimhen's 10 in 25, but is still subbed way more. But, yeah, Osimhen is clear of Tammy, man. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 5:58pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
I didn't say everytime he got subbed out means he is poor. Read it again. This is why you see flaw when there is none. He was subbed out 16 times in the league. I focused on the 8 times he was obviously having little or no impact on the game b'cos I watched some of those 8 games myself. I don't have to be super elaborate about them b'cos I don't have all day to talk about Tammy. Everyone who followed Chelsea knows Tammy went on a drought and they know also that Tammy lost his place along the line to Giroud. His game time took a major hit. This is all I stated. Nothing flawed about that at all. It is only copy and paste numbers. I didn't manufacture them. It is just what it is. And the focus of the discussion that prompted my post was the erroneous stance that Tammy came from the bench most times to deliver while Osimhen started. Some wanted to run with that false narrative that Tammy kept coming from the bench when he was infact a starter who only lost his place along the line and started same number of games as Osimhen. Simple. TheLoneCitizen: 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Neobulletzz(m): 6:00pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
Edopesin:You dey mind them, No need to compare a tap in merchant (Tammy) to an all round striker (Osihmen) Osihmen scored more tap ins than Tammy, now na we are looking beyond Tap in ![]() ![]() ![]() Shey I talk am say dem go twist the agenda to their taste, na here we dey, make we dey look 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 6:03pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
TheSuperNerd:Ok bro. I pray he finds his way to latvia. His fellow bredas are painting the place red. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 6:07pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
Neobulletzz: ![]() Some are even writing epistle to justify the unjustifiable We dey look 1 Like
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 6:12pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
Neobulletzz:why will you pick Osihmen when Tammy is better? 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 6:14pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
andrewbaba44:hahahahahahahaha |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 6:14pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
andrewbaba44:hahahahahahahaha |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 6:15pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
TheSuperNerd: Head-to-head susbstition is not a conclusive stat, my good man. When starting, Tammy has the same whoscored rating as Osimhen. Substituted players generally get bad ratings, but yet he still compares favourably with Osimhen with less subs. This means Osimhen has been tolerated on his bad days unlike Tammy. Osimhen has failed to score in 15 starts, compared with Tammy's 16. But Osimhen is still tolerated. Osimhen's longest goal drought is 4 consecutive starts, same as Tammy. But Osimhen is still tolerated. Osimhen is better than Tammy, but substitution is not an indicator of quality. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:18pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
Funfact: Forwards' involvement in teams' passings both aimed at them or played by them I have had these charts for a while.... Perhaps it's about time I dropped it here. ![]() A. % of his team's passes attempted by player (judging how much involved a forward is in his team's passing, linkup plays): Tammy trumps Haaland... But Osimhen edges Tammy. Tell me does this make Tammy better than Haaland?? ![]() ![]() B. % of passes aimed at player (shows both how involved a player is in his team's linkup/build up plays and how much is aimed at him to finish depending on where he is on the field/final third: Osimhen >>> Tammy >>>> Haaland Summary -Haaland is the ultimate poacher as can be seen. Dude will bury you with almost any chance he gets but is hardly involved in his team's linkup/buildup plays/passing. -Osimhen is more involved than both in his team's link-up plays and passing. - Tammy is below Osimhen in both but ahead of Haaland. Chart 1- Ligue 1 (Focus: Osimhen) Chart 2- Bundesliga (Focus: Haaland) Chart 3- EPL (Focus: Tammy) Note: Remember this is another focus on another aspect of the Forwards' game styles and abilities. 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:22pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
Edopesin:U just answered your own question about "which attribute Osimhen have?" Thesupernerd has answered your question regarding the games in which Tammy started and was subbed off.. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:23pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
Nobody said anything about it being conclusive. It only addressed the number of games both started and finished. It also debunked the nonsense making rounds that one got less starts than the other b'cos of less game time brought about by his being dropped for a while. Finito. All these ones you are saying is just different angles into what the numbers interpret... I am not for all that. My post addressed their gametime, number of games, number of games finished and their number of times substituted in or out. Simple. It is not conclusive but my angle is a pointer to what differentiates Osimhen from Tammy. Osimhen bosses Tammy even with 10 games to spare. EOD. TheLoneCitizen: 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:25pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
forgiveness: Giroud was signed from the onset to be a backup striker, innit? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:27pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
forgiveness: Go back to the previous page and read thesupernerd post on that... |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:27pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
Lol... You know... I don't know whether you are wishing him well or mocking him. I just don't know. Lol... Latvia kwa? ![]() Well... He is not getting any younger knowing he uses his "Football age" ![]() mostob: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 6:30pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
Danielnino00: Nope you've not answered it and neither did the guy's comment I asked for the matches in which he was taken off at Half Time, you said this insinuating that he was not playing well in the first half that made lampard take him off at HT The comment you quoted is talking about instances and qualities surrounding Osimhen and Tammy not the ones they have in them so you've not answered both my questions Unless you want to hide behind Osimhen's work rate as the reason why he is better than Tammy and not other core technicalities 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 6:31pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
TheLoneCitizen: Johny Georgopoylos has just reported that Paok will not sell Chuba Akpom before the Champions League game. Why would he want to deprive his future team of Champions League football? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:33pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
The Tammy fanboys and Biased ones will avoid this post like it's some plague.... ![]() This also answers some questions on the first debate on Osimhen vs Haaland. Hahahahahaha.... Funny lots. Agenda folks. ![]() TheSuperNerd: 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 6:43pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
He avoided this ![]() Passes per game Tammy Abraham- 14 Victor Osimhen- 13 One plays in the EPL the other in ligue 1 Wetin concern local man with build up play? Score and give assists Since Osimhen is a team player can you give us his Key passes per game? ![]() I won't post it myself 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:43pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
Edopesin: Read through the comment again....you will find your answers there.. Aside work rate, Osimhen is also more versatile than Tammy.. he has played on the flanks before... Has Tammy? But then,having a better work rate itself alone proves a lot of things.. I mean,aside being a good goal poacher,what other thing does Tammy offer on the pitch? A striker that does nothing other than scoring goals will fade off quickly when his goals dry up.. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:44pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
You are directing hardened biased minds that have vowed never to understand, to my posts? ![]() Dear Danny, stress not yourself. It is futile. Lol. Agenda must agend. It must "agendicate." (Borrowing Chrisooblog's word abi na Who get am sef?). Just free them. Danielnino00: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:48pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
Edopesin: You avoided this ![]() *Average rating at the end of the season* Tammy - 6.8 Osimhen - 7.0 ![]() 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:49pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
Danielnino00: Bhuhahahaha! Backup striker for who? ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:51pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
Danielnino00: Oga! D defend your statement. You wrote it that statement not Nerd. ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 6:52pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
Danielnino00: I read through the biased write up and he never mentioned the matches Haaland offers nothing else on the pitch and he is better than any young striker you want to bring to the table, do you also have the same thoughts towards him? I seriously doubt As a team player Osimhen doesn't have more assists than Tammy and how many goals has he scored as winger to confirm that he is versatile? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:52pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
Danielnino00: Average rating in a French league compared to EPL? Bros, reason am well na. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 6:53pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
Danielnino00: 6.8 in EPL is rather impressive compared to 7.0 in Ligue 1 don't you think? ![]() 2 Likes |
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