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Re: . by Nobody: 8:24am On Aug 12, 2020
A solid reminder.

Famous Chichen pyramid before Archaeology (first 2 photos)



After intensive digging (last 2 photos)

Just simple interest and intense research into the past can unveil monuments, antiques, ways of life and even entire new cities that no one would have though was there/ existed.

Re: . by SLAP44: 8:24am On Aug 12, 2020
Igbo civilization is happening at a very fast pace.
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Re: . by Yujin(m): 8:43am On Aug 12, 2020
Shiver99:
Can anybody say that there are any solid Pan - Igbo, Igbo nationalism/renaissance focused groups that are focused on investing in research about Igbo history?

Does anyone here have any suggestions or ideas on how local archeaologists and historians can be energised and funded in order to undertake this important, significant and extremely necessary task?
Unfortunately, I don't think there's any at the moment. The most prominent of all the Igbo archeologists is Prof. Onwuejeogwu from Anioma. He did excellently well to prove the links between different Igbo clans and show case the beauty of Igbo tradition and historical chronology. Other notable archeologists are Afigbo, Elizabeth Isichei and Caroline Acholonu. These people were rare assets that the Igbo nation have been unable to replace. Till date, most Igbos don't know that there was a pyramid built in Igboland. That heap of slag from Iron smelting I believe is in or around Nsukka and most Igbos youths don't know about it. Since Nigeria has failed us, I think Igbo social study teachers should make it an effort to study these archeological works of those people I mentioned earlier and use their findings to teach our young ones the achievement of our ancestors. This will go a long way to boost their awareness and creativity. We have to be passionate about Igbo nation by researching stuffs ourselves.
Re: . by helinues: 8:44am On Aug 12, 2020
This is when real ancient brown roofs are needed, but what can we say about people with no heritage...
Re: . by IduNaOba: 8:48am On Aug 12, 2020
Shiver99:
Can anybody say that there are any solid Pan - Igbo, Igbo nationalism/renaissance focused groups that are focused on investing in research about Igbo history?

Does anyone here have any suggestions or ideas on how local archeaologists and historians can be energised and funded in order to undertake this important, significant and extremely necessary task?
I am part of one.
NTOANA IKEUBA
Re: . by Yujin(m): 8:48am On Aug 12, 2020
helinues:
This is when real ancient brown roofs are needed, but what can we say about people with no heritage...
It's in you... throwing jabs even when you are not invited. Try and rein your hands and tongue. It will be very helpful to you.
Re: . by IduNaOba: 8:49am On Aug 12, 2020
Yujin:
Unfortunately, I don't think there's any at the moment. The most prominent of all the Igbo archeologists is Prof. Onwuejeogwu from Anioma. He did excellently well to prove the links between different Igbo clans and show case the beauty of Igbo tradition and historical chronology. Other notable archeologists are Afigbo, Elizabeth Isichei and Caroline Acholonu. These people were rare assets that the Igbo nation have been unable to replace. Till date, most Igbos don't know that there was a pyramid built in Igboland. That heap of slag from Iron smelting I believe is in or around Nsukka and most Igbos youths don't know about it. Since Nigeria has failed us, I think Igbo social study teachers should make it an effort to study these archeological works of those people I mentioned earlier and use their findings to teach our young ones the achievement of our ancestors. This will go a long way to boost their awareness and creativity. We have to be passionate about Igbo nation by researching stuffs ourselves.
Emeritus Professor J A Umeh is alive and kicking
Re: . by Obalatule: 8:53am On Aug 12, 2020
IGbo civilization is so ancient and shrouded in mystery

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Re: . by chiiraq802(m): 8:54am On Aug 12, 2020
helinues:
This is when real ancient brown roofs are needed, but what can we say about people with no heritage...
This table you're shakinghuh hmmmm!!!

Re: . by IduNaOba: 8:56am On Aug 12, 2020
Yujin:
Unfortunately, I don't think there's any at the moment. The most prominent of all the Igbo archeologists is Prof. Onwuejeogwu from Anioma. He did excellently well to prove the links between different Igbo clans and show case the beauty of Igbo tradition and historical chronology. Other notable archeologists are Afigbo, Elizabeth Isichei and Caroline Acholonu. These people were rare assets that the Igbo nation have been unable to replace. Till date, most Igbos don't know that there was a pyramid built in Igboland. That heap of slag from Iron smelting I believe is in or around Nsukka and most Igbos youths don't know about it. Since Nigeria has failed us, I think Igbo social study teachers should make it an effort to study these archeological works of those people I mentioned earlier and use their findings to teach our young ones the achievement of our ancestors. This will go a long way to boost their awareness and creativity. We have to be passionate about Igbo nation by researching stuffs ourselves.
Acholonu was mentored by emeritus professor J A Umeh
One of his books is AFTER GOD IS DIBIA
New people are coming up to replace the old
People like my friends Chijioke Ngobili, Chukwuemeka Obinwugo, Ocha TK Ùdóchí Okeke etc etc
Also I have been to lejja and seen the smelting sites first hand.
The nsude pyramids are way older than those in Egypt but was destroyed by the Oyibo.
There is an upcoming Igbo forum that will soon be launched strictly for enthusiasts that must be igbos.
You can drop your email so I can send to them to invite you.
Check out ofodirinwa or medicine shell on nairaland he is a big asset to ndigbo too
His contents are beautiful
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Re: . by Yujin(m):
Shiver99:
How very disheartning, hopefully the new spark in igbo conciousness/nationalism I'm seeing recently can trigger an Igbo renaissance.
Mine started during my secondary school days in the north. Nothing happening in Nigeria today surprises me because I've been able to project the dots due to my discoveries of our history.
Ndigbo must do more than we're doing today. The work before us is very enormous such that we must perish any little bragging that we so much crave. The work is very big but the reward is bigger. Most African Americans including other new world Africans are desperately looking for a home to be proud of. Among all the others, we've had a good record already even during the many revolts of the slave trade era. They just want to hear a good news from our home to latch on. We owe them this.
The reward for us standing up tall is so great that I wish my brothers will perish every thought of parochiality and focus on nation building. We must be ready to sacrifice our all for this project. We must start by building our home first.
Re: . by Yujin(m): 9:06am On Aug 12, 2020
IduNaOba:
Acholonu was mentored by emeritus professor J A Umeh
One of his books is AFTER GOD IS DIBIA
New people are coming up to replace the old
People like my friends Chijioke Ngobili, Chukwuemeka Obinwugo, Ocha TK Ùdóchí Okeke etc etc
Also I have been to lejja and seen the smelting sites first hand.
The nsude pyramids are way older than those in Egypt but was destroyed by the Oyibo.
There is an upcoming Igbo forum that will soon be launched strictly for enthusiasts that must be igbos.
You can drop your email so I can send to them to invite you.
Check out ofodirinwa or medicine shell on nairaland he is a big asset to ndigbo too
His contents are beautiful
Thanks nwanna.
Re: . by Obalatule: 9:19am On Aug 12, 2020
Shiver99:
Thank you for your contribution, but we're talking about ancient civilisations/ cultures here, not vestiges of unchecked poverty.
What a savage

Re: . by Obalatule:
helinues:
This is when real ancient brown roofs are needed, but what can we say about people with no heritage...
Thank you for your contribution, but we're talking about ancient civilisations/ cultures here, not vestiges of unchecked poverty

Re: . by OfoIgbo: 9:46am On Aug 12, 2020
This is a very positive thread.

The Igbo-Nkwo findings are by mere accident. I don't think a proper archeological investigation of Igboland has ever been done, the way it has been done in Benin or Ife.

I am aware of sites that a likely to yield findings that will make the Igbo-Nkwo findings seem like artifacts of yesterday.

Igboland and the people are the most intelligent in Africa, so one should expect a more spectacular and way more ancient set of archeological artifacts, when a proper investigation is made.

The Igbo-Nkwo (Igbo-Ukwu as it is currently known) findings are attributed to Oraeri, an Nri offshoot. The site is located in a piece of land that used to belong to Oraeri a neighbouring town, and this fact was verified by Thurstan Shaw, the Cambridge prof that led in the study and excavation of that site.
Imagine if a proper archaeological study is performed in Nri proper (paying particular attention to Eugwu-Ukwu, and Agukwu section of Nri town), and to a lesser extent Enugwu-Agidi and Nawfia. I can guarantee 100% that way older discoveries will be made in these sites.

The discoveries waiting to be unearthed in these sites will predate the whole Igodomigodo craze by many centuries.

Already, early Portuguese explorers in the 1400s, put down in writing that Nri was greater than Benin, and that Benin obas sort the permission and the blessing of the Eze Nri before any Benin oba could be crowned. Eze Nri Obalike of the 1800s also made it clear to the Europeans that Benin was under the Nri sphere of influence. When Obalike stated this fact, he was totally unaware that early Portuguese explorers noted this and saw these highly respected Nri titled men in the palace of the Oba of Benin.

Igbos have not been taking their history very seriously. Proper studies need to be carried out
Re: . by gwafaeziokwu: 9:47am On Aug 12, 2020
Shiver99:
Thank you for your contribution, but we're talking about ancient civilisations/ cultures here, not vestiges of unchecked poverty.
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You are wicked abeg. Person cannot play with you again.
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OfoIgbo:
This is a very positive thread.

The Igbo-Nkwo findings are by mere accident. I don't think a proper archeological investigation of Igboland has ever been done, the way it has been done in Benin or Ife.

I am aware of sites that a likely to yield findings that will make the Igbo-Nkwo findings seem like artifacts of yesterday.

Igboland and the people are the most intelligent in Africa, so one should expect a more spectacular and way more ancient set of archeological artifacts, when a proper investigation is made.

The Igbo-Nkwo (Igbo-Ukwu as it is currently known) findings are attributed to Oraeri, an Nri offshoot. The site is located in a piece of land that used to belong to Oraeri a neighbouring town, and this fact was verified by Thurstan Shaw, the Cambridge prof that led in the study and excavation of that site.
Imagine if a proper archaeological study is performed in Nri proper (paying particular attention to Eugwu-Ukwu, and Agukwu section of Nri town), and to a lesser extent Enugwu-Agidi and Nawfia. I can guarantee 100% that way older discoveries will be made in these sites.

The discoveries waiting to be unearthed in these sites will predate the whole Igodomigodo craze by many centuries.

Already, early Portuguese explorers in the 1400s, put down in writing that Nri was greater than Benin, and that Benin obas sort the permission and the blessing of the Eze Nri before any Benin oba could be crowned. Eze Nri Obalike of the 1800s also made it clear to the Europeans that Benin was under the Nri sphere of influence. When Obalike stated this fact, he was totally unaware that early Portuguese explorers noted this and saw these highly respected Nri titled men in the palace of the Oba of Benin.[color=#990000][/color][font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]

Igbos have not been taking their history very seriously. Proper studies need to be carried out
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Re: . by IduNaOba: 10:16am On Aug 12, 2020
Shiver99:
Thank you for your contribution, but we're talking about ancient civilisations/ cultures here, not vestiges of unchecked poverty.
Daalụ for this finishing blow
Re: . by Obalatule:
OfoIgbo:
This is a very positive thread.

The Igbo-Nkwo findings are by mere accident. I don't think a proper archeological investigation of Igboland has ever been done, the way it has been done in Benin or Ife.

I am aware of sites that a likely to yield findings that will make the Igbo-Nkwo findings seem like artifacts of yesterday.

Igboland and the people are the most intelligent in Africa, so one should expect a more spectacular and way more ancient set of archeological artifacts, when a proper investigation is made.

The Igbo-Nkwo (Igbo-Ukwu as it is currently known) findings are attributed to Oraeri, an Nri offshoot. The site is located in a piece of land that used to belong to Oraeri a neighbouring town, and this fact was verified by Thurstan Shaw, the Cambridge prof that led in the study and excavation of that site.
Imagine if a proper archaeological study is performed in Nri proper (paying particular attention to Eugwu-Ukwu, and Agukwu section of Nri town), and to a lesser extent Enugwu-Agidi and Nawfia. I can guarantee 100% that way older discoveries will be made in these sites.

The discoveries waiting to be unearthed in these sites will predate the whole Igodomigodo craze by many centuries.

Already, early Portuguese explorers in the 1400s, put down in writing that Nri was greater than Benin, and that Benin obas sort the permission and the blessing of the Eze Nri before any Benin oba could be crowned. Eze Nri Obalike of the 1800s also made it clear to the Europeans that Benin was under the Nri sphere of influence. When Obalike stated this fact, he was totally unaware that early Portuguese explorers noted this and saw these highly respected Nri titled men in the palace of the Oba of Benin.

Igbos have not been taking their history very seriously. Proper studies need to be carried out
Binis where actually an offshoot of an ancient Igbo group which also included the"Isu" group of Igbos and the ARO,...The ISU and idu(Bini) and Aro along with two other relatives which included the igala ancestors, that's why Igbos,Bini and igala use the word "isee" to seal prayers signifying the original five branches.

Bini are a branch of the Igbo race. They left Nri under the leadership of Igodo to found Igodomigodo due to nso - ani. Hence Bini language and culture is similar to Igbo.

The Bini Igue Festival is borrowed from Nri Iguaro festival.

The Bini 4 days of the week - Eken, Afon, Orien, Nkwon were borrowed from Nri.

The Bini succession by primogeniture is an adaptation of the Okpalabisi Igbo system that grants total rights of succession to the first son.

The customary Bini breaking of Kolanut is also derived from Nri. 'Onye wetere oji wetere ndu'.

The New Yam festival is a carry over from Nri. It is still celebrated with pomp and pageantry in Benin.

The Ogiso dynasty of Igodo migodo is Igbo. Ogie - so means leader who must be followed.

Till date Nri Priests are important in the coronation functions of the Obas of Benin.

The word OKORO which is the finest specimen of the male species amongst Igbos, also means Prince in Bini.

Most people don't know that even Bini counting is very similar to Igbo counting.

Do you know that the Bini still use the Igbo word EGO, EGHO for money.

Many Bini towns still bear their Igbo names till date eg ISIUWA, IGUOBAZUWA.

The Benin Prince called Oduduwa /Izoduwa /Imaduwa who left to Ife just 900 years ago bears his Igbo name and its meanings on leadership is clear to every Igbo.
Re: . by Nobody: 10:31am On Aug 12, 2020
Igala and Benin influenced igbo arts, most igbo don't know where they came from. Most art pieces in onitsha belong to igala priest that conquered and colonised igbos before the arrival of British

Re: . by Nobody: 10:34am On Aug 12, 2020
Obalatule:
Binis where actually an offshoot of an ancient Igbo group which included the"Isu" group of Igbos, The ISU and idu(Bini) along with three other relatives which include the igala ancestors, that's why Igbos,Bini and igala use the word "isee" to seal prayers signifying the original five branches.

Bini are a branch of the Igbo race. They left Nri under the leadership of Igodo to found Igodomigodo due to nso - ani. Hence Bini language and culture is similar to Igbo.

The Bini Igue Festival is borrowed from Nri Iguaro festival.

The Bini 4 days of the week - Eken, Afon, Orien, Nkwon were borrowed from Nri.

The Bini succession by primogeniture is an adaptation of the Okpalabisi Igbo system that grants total rights of succession to the first son.

The customary Bini breaking of Kolanut is also derived from Nri. 'Onye wetere oji wetere ndu'.

The New Yam festival is a carry over from Nri. It is still celebrated with pomp and pageantry in Benin.

The Ogiso dynasty of Igodo migodo is Igbo. Ogie - so means leader who must be followed.

Till date Nri Priests are important in the coronation functions of the Obas of Benin.

The word OKORO which is the finest specimen of the male species amongst Igbos, also means Prince in Bini.

Most people don't know that even Bini counting is very similar to Igbo counting.

Do you know that the Bini still use the Igbo word EGO, EGHO for money.

Many Bini towns still bear their Igbo names till date eg ISIUWA, IGUOBAZUWA.

The Benin Prince called Oduduwa /Izoduwa /Imaduwa who left to Ife just 900 years ago bears his Igbo name and its meanings on leadership is clear to every Igbo.
This is nothing but lies, Benin no be una mate for civilization, in the 15th century, Benin was already an empire whereas decentralised Igbos were still scavenging the east in the Bush, no disrespect here.

When the Portuguese first set foot there at the end of the 15th century, Benin was a city-state in the middle of the rainforest that surpassed many late medieval European cities in urban development and where the streets were lit at night by palm oil lanterns.
Re: . by Nobody: 10:39am On Aug 12, 2020
Already, early Portuguese explorers in the 1400s, put down in writing that Nri was greater than Benin, and that Benin obas sort the permission and the blessing of the Eze Nri before any Benin oba could be crowned. Eze Nri Obalike of the 1800s also made it clear to the Europeans that Benin was under the Nri sphere of influence. When Obalike stated this fact, he was totally unaware that early Portuguese explorers noted this and saw these highly respected Nri titled men in the palace of the Oba of Benin.
This is BS and you know it.

Cc ThatFairGuy, sammy07
Re: . by Dedetwo(m): 10:39am On Aug 12, 2020
Shiver99:
Can anybody say that there are any solid Pan - Igbo, Igbo nationalism/renaissance focused groups that are focused on investing in research about Igbo history?

Does anyone here have any suggestions or ideas on how local archeaologists and historians can be energised and funded in order to undertake this important, significant and extremely necessary task?
It is simply by actualization of Republic of Igbo Land!!!!
Re: . by Obalatule: 10:40am On Aug 12, 2020
MinorityOpinion:
This is nothing but lies, Benin no una mate for civilization, in the 15th century, Benin was already an empire where decentralised Igbos were still scavenging the east in the Bush, no disrespect here.
You are off-point, Binis where an offshoot of early Igbo ancestors, Building an empire later-on has nothing to do with it...... Through out all their conquering and wars they never looked east towards the Igbos,but they were always traversing yerobaland with impunity..have you asked yourself why?
Re: . by Dedetwo(m): 10:49am On Aug 12, 2020
MinorityOpinion:
This is nothing but lies, Benin no be una mate for civilization, in the 15th century, Benin was already an empire where decentralised Igbos were still scavenging the east in the Bush, no disrespect here.
How dare you call a historical facts which did not come from the heap of silly propaganda of the so-called Oyo Empire and Benin Empire a lie? When the jackasses you believed their fairytales told you about their silly system of monarchs as against the democratic system which Ndigbo practiced, you were hale and hearty. Today, the same Europeans have abandoned the monarchical crap and embraced the democratic bandwagon.
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