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Beremx:
Wait for more political opponents from the SW once Tinubu declares his intention to run for Presidency. Some of them have started voicing out against his presidential ambition while some are making underground moves.

He is doing what he did in 2007 and 2011 with Atiku and Ribadu respectively.

At the end of this LONG READ , The summary is SIMPLY 2023.............

Igbochief001:
Awolowo vs akintola
Obasanjo vs abiola
Obasanjo vs fayose
Obasanjo vs lodaja

Should I keep naming ?

Those are individuals fight without involving Yorubas in general.

Obiano just suspended 12 igwes for traveling to Abuja without notifying state government.

Come up with something creative

priceaction:
My mind is telling me that this tinubu might pull a joker in the forth coming presidential election. If you know his pattern, he always shift attention to himself and finally pull a joker when there are lots of diversions and fights. He has been doing it in Lagos even during this last election.
I still believe that his camp may still settle for oshibajo after much fights here and there because they are still parley to themselves and oshibajo is still loyal to him and APC and oshibajo is never a puppet of tinubu, but loved by many. He did it during his nomination as VP too. Time will tell. Forget that dogara diversion. That's just distractions..

Oga he wanted to be veepee ...it was the likes of ameachi , atiku and saraki that stopped him and two the Muslim Muslim ticket ...relax stop lying

Pimpmaride:
Heli thank u very much


Sammy07, where are thou


I woke up smiling ooo


10000 Okoros can do me notin

fine boy

LegendHero:
In the last few weeks, the social media has been filled with speculations that a rift exists between two important figures in Yorbaland, Asiwaju Ahmed Tinubu and his soul mate, Comrade Rauf Adesoji Aregbesola.

Cynical cheers, glee and a sense of remorse, in some instance have seized the cyber space. There are people who wish to see the two in a boxing ring. In fact, in many instances, the spectators have been obtaining tickets for what they imagine would be a political rumble in the jungle. I begin with an impressive chronological account in Yoruba bygone. It has to do with the glorious era of the old Oyo Empire, when she had a formidable army with over 100,000 in numerical strength, at a time that no force in the Sahara could measure up to her feet.

In the later part of the 15th century, there was a certain man in the palace of Oyo. His name was Okolo. Tutored in native wisdom, driven by timeless tradition to sit at the feet of the king, observe the (Oyo Mesi) Senate take decisions on crucial state matters, but never to be heard. He was a palace courtier, a leech who earned his living by defending every word of the Alaafin, either false or true. He was destined to be a tick, accustomed to living like the king’s extra-ordinary flatterer. One day, the Alaafin had addressed his Senate briefing them on reports from his Defense Minister (Aare Ona Kakanfo) as Oyo prepared to wage yet another battle. Detailing the highly confidential military tactics and strategy to be employed, releasing the training manual and the budget needed to wage the battle, Alaafin then closed his remarks. Surprisingly, Okolo who by tradition was not permitted to speak in the royal court, raised his hands for comments.

The leader of the parliament (Senate President) ordered him to shut up, charging at him “Ta ni mon Okolo l’oyo”meaning “who knows an insignificant Okolo, a wretched of the earth in this Republic.” The next few days, Okolo set a part of the palace ablaze. For the first time, Okolo gained fame, albeit a very loathsome one, but he became known nevertheless. It was not clear what punishment was meted out to Okolo, but the damage had been done, Okolo had proved to the world that he could make himself known even though he was previously a footnote.

This sums up the danger of what the people in the gallery could do to disrupt the stage where they are not the main actors but trivial spectators. There is a growing perception of a rift between two of the most dominant political figures in Yorubaland, Asiwaju Ahmed Tinubu and his godson, Ogbenin Rauf Adesoji Aregbesola. This has been fueled by certain developments which the many ‘Okolos’, the spoilers within the political circle have tried vehemently to link with what they see as a brewing storm between the two soul mates. Why is the issue important to us? As indigenous people of the South West with a deep sense of history, we have always known that spectators have a devious way of igniting fire where there is none and could fuel the embers into a dangerous peril which may affect peace and stability of the dominion. Promoters of this cite the dissolution of the Mandate Group and the Justice Forum. The action has been described as a plot to cut the wings of Aregbesola in Lagos politics. To be sure, though the two groups are domicile in Lagos, members cut across the entire South West. The activities of members reverberate in and out of Lagos localities, making the two groups a resounding model for regional political transfiguration.

The other event was what they describe as the “missing name of Aregbeola” in the list of Governors Advisory Council, (GAC) in Lagos. Again, why are these issues important to us? Let us face it, all over history, there have been disputes that began as a minor disagreement between two people that later spiral into a mass conflagration, consuming the actors and then the spectators leaving only the bias referees to their glee. These developments are local but have far reaching regional and national implications. No serious people will ignore real or imagined dispute between some of her most outstanding political figures who are also co-captains in the most influential political party in their protectorate. However, the deliberate (mis) interpretation of these developments should be understood in content and form. There are forces feeding on the figments and realities.

There are three tendencies involved with different goals, not really the same in character. First is the politics of Lagos. No doubt, Comrade Aregbesola has a charm grip on the dynamics of Lagos electoral politics, not being his own creation alone, but courtesy of the responsibility placed on him as far back as 1999 by Asiwaju, backed by Aregbesola’s own power of insight and his knowledge of dialectics which enriches his understanding of Lagos political phenomenon. There is a small but vocal group in Lagos that wants to severe the Tinubu-Asiwaju almost blood-bound ties. They have overt reasons but a covert agenda. They argue that Tinubu may have been giving too much of influence to Aregbesola. But there is a covert game: to weaken Asiwaju’s technical strength and reduce his grandeur by cutting off a major of his roots making him more vulnerable to their concealed assault. In reality, it was not the first time non-party based groups were dissolved in Lagos. Bola Ahmed Tinubu Campaign Organisation, (BATCO) was dissolved. From all indications, the recent dissolution was by leadership consensus.

The other antagonists are equally within the APC and even beyond the party. Yet, a State governor in the North leads her own garrison, a plot. On his visit to Lagos few years ago, Kaduna State Governor, El Rufai called for an end to ‘godfatherism in Lagos’ teaching his audience on the tactics and strategies of how to defeat the “Lagos godfather.” He suggested raising some billions to fuel the project. If there is a godfather in Lagos politics, what does Mallam El Rufai stand to gain by being part of the group that seeks its destruction? Does it mean he loves the people of Lagos more than themselves? Only recently, during an event in Lagos involving Aregbesola, the same El Rufai said he does not admire Tinubu but that he has fallen in love with his godson. Literarily, he does not admire a king, but he loves his first son. There cannot be a posture as divisive. Let it be admitted. El Rufai is a typical Fulani intellectual: brilliant, intelligence, as calculating as a stealth tiger, surgical in manners of scrutiny and essentially primordial. What then is the gameplan? Simple: El Rufai appears to represent a tendency within the APC that is obsessed with strong regional power blocs different from that in the armpit of his camp, or any other one unless it is subservient to it. Outside his domain, El Rufai’s group detests an organized political structure that cannot be broken into pieces, but wants each isolated and weakened.

His tendency would love to determine the custodian of political treasures in each regional bloc, its shape, its content, its form. This caucus would love to determine the substance of political relationship across the country. I first met Tinubu in 1992 as a Correspondent with The Guardian. During the anti-June 12 struggle, I watched him closely. In 1999, I also had series of interviews with him while in The Punch. But I have never been intimate, not to the extent of calling or receiving his calls. Yet, I sum up his strength as fierce courage and indomitable will. He has weaknesses, like all humans. So, it is not that the El Rufai group hates Tinubu’s intimidating eyeballs, neither his mode of dressing, but rather detests his share courage, his lion-heart, his network of intelligence, to bestride over an intimidating political machine, his dexterity, his influence across the South West and even West Africa and beyond and the fact that the region cannot be accessed in piecemeal but in whole, and best through him.

Under the British, it was called ‘divide and rule.’ Having fired many arrows at Asiwaju, including taking the ladder off his feet, after his huge labour in the last two elections, the forces seek to varnish him not for want of love for the people he represents, but to viciously clear the strongest mortar, difficult to manipulate, to their establishing an unquestionable political garrison. So, it would be in the interest of the hegemony, to demolish what appears to be the most formidable political structure in the South West, supplant it and dissipate its strength. In doing this, having succeeded in creating two blocs in the SW, it will be necessary to strengthen their stronghold by first dismantling one before seeking the destruction of the other.

It was thought Aregbesola would be a pun. But this appears to be a huge blunder, for here is a man with a Marxist background, a dogged defender of his values whose most cherished quality is loyalty to friendship and his never-bend posture in matters of bond.

In all, it is all about the 2023 Presidential ambition. If any of the regional blocs in the South remain factionalised, bruised and broken, with each seeking salvation in the undoubtedly outside its zone, I foresee a situation whereby the North again will produce the 2023 Presidential candidate in the two most dominant political parties, APC and PDP. If the Southern elite genuinely want the Presidential trophy in 2023, only a unity of purpose, irrespective of their tendencies, within and outside party politics, can ever safe them from self-destruction. Even then seeking the trophy is not enough, Nigerians must be convinced that the next President of Nigeria will create a real paradigm shift from the past to build a status of democracy that cannot be demolished by the current whirlwinds of poverty, violence and threats to the livelihood of millions of Nigerians.

Source: https://guardian.ng/opinion/tinubu-aregbesola-and-south-west-politics/

Na so una deny oshomole and obaseki

Na so I'ma deny tinubu and ambode

We would be here when your likes would tell us how arebgberascal is worse that boko Haram

helinues:
Those are individuals fight without involving Yorubas in general.

Obiano just suspended 12 igwes for traveling to Abuja without notifying state government.

Come up with something creative

And tinubu and aregbe is the whole yorubas

Na so una cover ambode own ..we still saw the dirty fight


Anambra can suspend as many Kings as he wants ...the only reason we have those rubbish is so we can get our own shares given to Kings ...not that they are important or anything

Aregbe was jumping around given false impression about his political dexterity and dynamism.
Despite he be small boy in politics o.

He has been put to his proper position.

Igbochief001:
And tinubu and aregbe is the whole yorubas

Na so una cover ambode own ..we still saw the dirty fight


Anambra can suspend as many Kings as he wants ...the only reason we have those rubbish is so we can get our own shares given to Kings ...not that they are important or anything

Disjointed and incoherent..

Abeg, don't give person unnecessary headache early in the morning..

helinues:
Disjointed and incoherent..

Abeg, don't give person unnecessary headache early in the morning..

Run run little girl ...Yoruba APC can't even unite for a day and u want to come for presidency

Igbochief001:
Run run little girl ...Yoruba APC can't even unite for a day and u want to come for presidency

Nigeria need a Democratic Communist...

anonimi:
Why do you expect a dictator to be any different than the looters we have had since 1960, wearing bubas/babanrigas or khakis

That is where the benevolence comes in, looting started with IBB not before. Military leaders before IBB were discipline, the romance between the political class and the IBB regime gave birth to the stunted growth we have had so far.

If not for human right issues Abacha did better than Jonathan and Buhari put together

Pimpmaride:
Heli thank u very much


Sammy07, where are thou


I woke up smiling ooo


10000 Okoros can do me notin

morning boss

Sammy07:
morning boss

Boss.... No shaking.....

gasparpisciotta:
That is where the benevolence comes in, looting started with IBB not before. Military leaders before IBB were discipline, the romance between the political class and the IBB regime gave birth to the stunted growth we have had so far.

If not for human right issues Abacha did better than Jonathan and Buhari put together

You need to update yourself on our history since independence.
For example, Nzeogu clearly said that their coup was to remove the 10 percenters.
The NPC, AG and NCNC were looting money even before independence.
So what are you saying sir

gasparpisciotta:
Despite the inadequacies of dictatorship, democracy in Nigeria has proven to benefit only the political class.

Thomas Jefferson and co. laid the foundation of the modern day America.

Since the start of democracy in Nigeria what have we really achieved?
Successive governments have failed in Power, health, ordinary road projects we are battling to complete them.

I may be naive bro but I see differently

Yea you are naive

gasparpisciotta:
That is where the benevolence comes in, looting started with IBB not before. Military leaders before IBB were discipline, the romance between the political class and the IBB regime gave birth to the stunted growth we have had so far.

If not for human right issues Abacha did better than Jonathan and Buhari put together

Looting started with IBB??

helinues:

I gat saved that picture, for reference purpose.

Igbochief001:
Awolowo vs akintola
Obasanjo vs abiola
Obasanjo vs fayose
Obasanjo vs lodaja

Should I keep naming ?

that one is different from this one o

SaintBeehot:
that one is different from this one o

Lol u are quoting someone who is not a ward leader even

helinues:

No be Igbochief001 suppose Dy talk about unity o, or what's take on this.

Afonjas

Igbochief001:
Lol u are quoting someone who is not a ward leader even

do you want more

Luggardhy:
Asiwaju Jagaban!

Ghana must go bag

anonimi:
Long ban by the nairaland powers.

U will face another one soon

LegendHero:
Source: https://guardian.ng/opinion/tinubu-aregbesola-and-south-west-politics/

Drivel

SPECULATORS should stop raising dust where there's non

seunmsg:
Asiwaju and Ogbeni are matured enough to settle their differences if there is any. They are both very smart politically to know when not to allow outsiders come between them. That people like El-Rufai will try to create a wedge between them and destroy their political camp is not an issue because it’s allowed in politics. What will be an issue is if they allow the enemies to succeed in destroying them.

Tinubu himself is a master of the game. He has fought similar political wars over the last 20 years so he’s well experienced. Despite all that has been said and done, he’s still the leading candidate as far as APC is concerned.

Fought which war..? Buhari has been humiliating the bastard since the election of NASS leadership of 2015 till date. What has he done to fight back..?

Awon mosquitoes everywhere....

gasparpisciotta:
That is where the benevolence comes in, looting started with IBB not before. Military leaders before IBB were discipline, the romance between the political class and the IBB regime gave birth to the stunted growth we have had so far.

If not for human right issues Abacha did better than Jonathan and Buhari put together

Looting started with ibb ? Not before ?

How old are you?

What’s murtala reason for coup... nzeogwu... Buhari coup...
they all claim corruption... what’s corruption in Nigeria...
Looting and Nepotism

Looting started from the very 1st republic... .. Ibb only continued from where others stop..


..... and how you go say abacha did better than Jonathan and Buhari

Na wao.....

Nigerians and proud ignorance

[quote author=LegendHero post=92759439]Source: https://guardian.ng/opinion/tinubu-aregbesola-and-south-west-politics/[/quote


WETIN Okolo DID TO YORUBAS

I expect southeast PDP vs southwest APC candidates in 2023 only if "south can effectively negotiate themselves in Nigeria politics.


El rufai and co want to infiltrate South West through Fayemi, Fayemi that cannot win election outside his home state Ekiti. If El rufai can succeed in breaking down Tinubu, he would now project north for the plum job, having known that Fayemi can easily be broken, Fayemi ready to trade south west for his personal ego of becoming VP, even though he is a living testimony of how Osibanjo has been degraded by Northerner oligarchy.

Meanwhile I expected south east to be in front runner to clinch the ticket of PDP but what I see is lackadaisical attitude. Instead of championing! They resulted to "shout marginalisation", shouting cannot position them to the plum job but real politicking.