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Re: How I viewed Homosexuality back then as an Athiest, and Now by Kobojunkie: 5:03pm On Aug 15, 2020
OpenYourEyes1:
My View on Homosexuality
I accepted lots of secular views back then, like legalizing homosexuality, abortion, fornication etc even though I didn't think deep into their advantages and disadvantages. I hated the idea of men touching men though, I just tolerated their freedom to do whatever they want (as long as they don't hurt anyone). I wanted to be considered "civilized" back then and avoid being part of "hateful christains"

There was a former president who made me to be a bit cautious. I wondered why he was so focused on homosexuality and trying to impose it on nations when there are other human rights abuses he should be more focused on too.
Now I think I know why they want lots of people to be homosexual. I was too naive and thoroughly decieved back them.
The Word of GOD is 100% true. Truely repent of your sins and get baptized to understand the gem the world is missing. Always believe while reading.
A former president's fervent belief that even those who are homosexuals should be able to enjoy freedoms that all the rest of us do, is what essentially SPOOKED you onto clam-ing up as far as Homosexuality is concerned.

I guess your claimed belief as regards homosexuality has nothing to do with any real truth that had to do with the teachings of Jesus Christ. Because I was about to ask you where Jesus Christ said we should support ideas and rules that kept in chains those who do not believe as we do or see the world through the lenses we have chosen to.
But after reading that statement there about the former president's actions looking you, I can only come away believing that your current belief is nothing to do with Jesus Christ's teachings either.

Re: How I viewed Homosexuality back then as an Athiest, and Now by MuttleyLaff: 5:39pm On Aug 15, 2020
Danhoys:
You were never an atheist to begin with.
Every human being was born an atheist

Danhoys:
Secondly, your religious view of homosexuality is not valid for as long as it tramples on human right.
It tramples not just on human rights, but also on a man/woman's biblical rights to exercise, demonstrate and/or practise agape love

Danhoys:
Your God endorsed slavery, but slavery is a hideous crime you dare not meddle with today.
"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:
and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle,
and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth
"
- Genesis 1:26

God, is just as much his/her God, as He is your God. God is a universal God, who is God of the universe, whether you acknowledge this or not. This is truth, just as is like the sun. You can shut it out for as along as you want, but it doesnt mean the sun's gone or is going away

God, right from the beginning never endorsed slavery. Slavery, dominating a fellow human being, having superiority over a fellow human was never in the plan of God. Slavery, just as like infidelity, treachery, deceitfulness et cetera, is one the end results of what happened as a consequence of the original sin or of the blatant disregard for the law of God, (i.e. the action taken by A&E in disregarding God's expressed warning word)

From Genesis 1:26 above, it is very evident, who man was to rule, who man was to dominate, who man was to subjugate, what to master, to control or to bring under yoke et cetera or even from Exodus 21:16 below, we see that, man was not meant to enslave or make a subordinate of his fellow human being. It is because of the fallen world we live in that God tolerated slavery, polygamy, certain biblically recorded lies or deception et cetera and some of these aberrations, were endured by God, because it doesnt diminish His omnipotence when let happen, and for another main reason of that they were endured because God, doesnt lose control, He is forever in control and that everything works together for God's purpose(s)


Danhoys:
Seems human laws or rather, human right always prevail at the end of the day.
"Whoever kidnaps someone, either to sell him
or to keep him as a slave, is to be put to death
"
- Exodus 21:16

Human laws or rather, human rights are refused, trampled upon, abused, violated, withdrawn, ignored, denied et cetera but divinely ordained God expected end always has the last laugh.

If the weightier matters, like having to do justice, extending mercy, to love kindness, walk humbly before God and having faith in God, are not neglected, then there wouldn't be issues with human rights


Danhoys:
Currently, religion is on life support. You guys will be lucky to survive another decade. People are waking up!
The religion that is on life support, is religion that is not pure and is defiled, in such a manner that God doesnt approve. in as much as believers have breath in them, pure and undefiled religion is here to stay up to the trumpet sound blast
Re: How I viewed Homosexuality back then as an Athiest, and Now by kimco(m): 7:14pm On Aug 15, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
[size=12pt]"Whoever kidnaps someone, either to sell him
or to keep him as a slave, is to be put to death
"
- Exodus 21:16
How about you quote the whole of exodus 21...

From what i read its obvious the *man* being referred to is an Israelite man, not the men captured from war from other nations. Try again.
Re: How I viewed Homosexuality back then as an Athiest, and Now by MuttleyLaff: 7:26pm On Aug 15, 2020
kimco:
How about you quote the whole of exodus 21...

From what i read its obvious the *man* being referred to is an Israelite man, not the men captured from war from other nations. Try again.
"There is neither Jew nor Greek,
there is neither slave nor free,
there is neither male and female;
for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
- Galatians 3:28

I don't need to quote the whole of Exodus 21, when Genesis 1:26 has explicitly made it clear and know what in the beginning, before the fall, what the expectation, expected end is

Africans, Caucasians et cetera were kidnapped and sold into slavery. The Israelites themselves, strangers in Egypt, a foreign land, were for 430 years turned into slaves. It was never in God's original plan for man to dominate his fellow man

We are doing a full circle, going back to how it originally and in the beginning was set out to be and Galatians 3:28 above there, clears the air, on the whole slave matter
Re: How I viewed Homosexuality back then as an Athiest, and Now by Danhoys: 8:17pm On Aug 15, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
Every human being was born an atheist

It tramples not just on human rights, but also on a man/woman's biblical rights to exercise, demonstrate and/or practise agape love

"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:
and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle,
and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth
"
- Genesis 1:26

God, is just as much his/her God, as He is your God. God is a universal God, who is God of the universe, whether you acknowledge this or not. This is truth, just as is like the sun. You can shut it out for as along as you want, but it doesnt mean the sun's gone or is going away

God, right from the beginning never endorsed slavery. Slavery, dominating a fellow human being, having superiority over a fellow human was never in the plan of God. Slavery, just as like infidelity, treachery, deceitfulness et cetera, is one the end results of what happened as a consequence of the original sin or of the blatant disregard for the law of God, (i.e. the action taken by A&E in disregarding God's expressed warning word)

From Genesis 1:26 above, it is very evident, who man was to rule, who man was to dominate, who man was to subjugate, what to master, to control or to bring under yoke et cetera or even from Exodus 21:16 below, we see that, man was not meant to enslave or make a subordinate of his fellow human being. It is because of the fallen world we live in that God tolerated slavery, polygamy, certain biblically recorded lies or deception et cetera and some of these aberrations, were endured by God, because it doesnt diminish His omnipotence when let happen, and for another main reason of that they were endured because God, doesnt lose control, He is forever in control and that everything works together for God's purpose(s)


"Whoever kidnaps someone, either to sell him
or to keep him as a slave, is to be put to death
"
- Exodus 21:16

Human laws or rather, human rights are refused, trampled upon, abused, violated, withdrawn, ignored, denied et cetera but divinely ordained God expected end always has the last laugh.

If the weightier matters, like having to do justice, extending mercy, to love kindness, walk humbly before God and having faith in God, are not neglected, then there wouldn't be issues with human rights


The religion that is on life support, is religion that is not pure and is defiled, in such a manner that God doesnt approve. in as much as believers have breath in them, pure and undefiled religion is here to stay up to the trumpet sound blast
You think I have time for this?

Do you actually think I'm gonna sit down while trashing this with you?

Nah... You're free to wallow in whatever delusion you might have.
Re: How I viewed Homosexuality back then as an Athiest, and Now by kimco(m): 8:17pm On Aug 15, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
"There is neither Jew nor Greek,
there is neither slave nor free,
there is neither male and female;
for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
- Galatians 3:28

I don't need to quote the whole of Exodus 21, when Genesis 1:26 has explicitly made it clear and know what in the beginning, before the fall, what the expectation, expected end is

Africans, Caucasians et cetera were kidnapped and sold into slavery. The Israelites themselves, strangers in Egypt, a foreign land, were for 430 years turned into slaves. It was never in God's original plan for man to dominate his fellow man

We are doing a full circle, going back to how it originally and in the beginning was set out to be and Galatians 3:28 above there, clears the air, on the whole slave matter
Ah! How can you quote exodus...before christ and later quote galatians to prove your point? Do you not see that both are from different eras? Surely you cannot be serious....think of the culture in these two eras and realise that you are conveniently moving the goalpost.


Also enough with this it was never in God's plan...if it wasn't in his plan why spur Israel on to fight wars then? What do you think happens during wars? Slaves are made from survivors.

Mr.! your god approved of slaves made from foreign lands....he only disapproves of those amongst his own people. If you quoted the whole chapter, others would have pointed it out to you as well. Try again.
Re: How I viewed Homosexuality back then as an Athiest, and Now by MuttleyLaff: 9:03pm On Aug 15, 2020
Danhoys:
You think I have time for this?
For you, I easily can make the time for you and this. It is soft work

Danhoys:
Do you actually think I'm gonna sit down while trashing this with you?
For all I care, you can stand on your feet, float in air, while you woefully fail in any attempt to trash this here

Danhoys:
Nah... You're free to wallow in whatever delusion you might have.
Truth, is always a delusion and ironically, you have the most to learn from the delusion
Re: How I viewed Homosexuality back then as an Athiest, and Now by MuttleyLaff:
kimco:
Ah! How can you quote exodus...before christ and later quote galatians to prove your point? Do you not see that both are from different eras? Surely you cannot be serious....think of the culture in these two eras and realise that you are conveniently moving the goalpost.


Also enough with this it was never in God's plan...if it wasn't in his plan why spur Israel on to fight wars then? What do you think happens during wars? Slaves are made from survivors.

Mr.! your god approved of slaves made from foreign lands....he only disapproves of those amongst his own people. If you quoted the whole chapter, others would have pointed it out to you as well. Try again.
I'll reiterate that Genesis 1:26 has explicitly made it clear and know what in the beginning, before the fall, what the expectation, expected end is

Africans, Caucasians et cetera were kidnapped and sold into slavery. The Israelites themselves, strangers in Egypt, a foreign land, were for 430 years turned into slaves. It was never in God's original plan for man to dominate his fellow man

We are doing a full circle, going back to how it originally and in the beginning was set out to be and Galatians 3:28 above there, clears the air, on the whole slave matter.

Fyi, mister man, Galatians 3:28, is making a full circle back to Genesis 1:26
Re: How I viewed Homosexuality back then as an Athiest, and Now by OpenYourEyes1(op): 7:56am On Aug 18, 2020
OpenYourEyes1:
By the way, I wasn't really fully athiest back then. I usually switch between "athiesm" to "believing in a GOD that is more superior to Christian GOD". The hypocrisy among those I thought served the true GOD was unbearable to me. I just needed a kind, tolerant, non-violent, non-human like GOD(the worldly images of so called God really affected my view too). I thought GOD should be Spirit and everywhere & not like human. Presently, I have discovered that HE is more than what I expected back then. HE is more than wonderful, kind, loving, caring and other good things you can think of



My View on Homosexuality
I accepted lots of secular views back then, like legalizing homosexuality, abortion, fornication etc even though I didn't think deep into their advantages and disadvantages. I hated the idea of men touching men though, I just tolerated their freedom to do whatever they want (as long as they don't hurt anyone). I wanted to be considered "civilized" back then and avoid being part of "hateful christains"

There was a former president who made me to be a bit cautious. I wondered why he was so focused on homosexuality and trying to impose it on nations when there are other human rights abuses he should be more focused on too.
Now I think I know why they want lots of people to be homosexual. I was too naive and thoroughly decieved back them.
The Word of GOD is 100% true. Truely repent of your sins and get baptized to understand the gem the world is missing. Always believe while reading.
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Re: How I viewed Homosexuality back then as an Athiest, and Now by OpenYourEyes1(op): 8:09am On Aug 26, 2020
OpenYourEyes1:
By the way, I wasn't really fully athiest back then. I usually switch between "athiesm" to "believing in a GOD that is more superior to Christian GOD". The hypocrisy among those I thought served the true GOD was unbearable to me. I just needed a kind, tolerant, non-violent, non-human like GOD(the worldly images of so called God really affected my view too). I thought GOD should be Spirit and everywhere & not like human. Presently, I have discovered that HE is more than what I expected back then. HE is more than wonderful, kind, loving, caring and other good things you can think of



My View on Homosexuality
I accepted lots of secular views back then, like legalizing homosexuality, abortion, fornication etc even though I didn't think deep into their advantages and disadvantages. I hated the idea of men touching men though, I just tolerated their freedom to do whatever they want (as long as they don't hurt anyone). I wanted to be considered "civilized" back then and avoid being part of "hateful christains"

There was a former president who made me to be a bit cautious. I wondered why he was so focused on homosexuality and trying to impose it on nations when there are other human rights abuses he should be more focused on too.
Now I think I know why they want lots of people to be homosexual. I was too naive and thoroughly decieved back them.
The Word of GOD is 100% true. Truely repent of your sins and get baptized to understand the gem the world is missing. Always believe while reading.
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Re: How I viewed Homosexuality back then as an Athiest, and Now by OpenYourEyes1(op): 7:45am On Sep 25, 2020
OpenYourEyes1:
By the way, I wasn't really fully athiest back then. I usually switch between "athiesm" to "believing in a GOD that is more superior to Christian GOD". The hypocrisy among those I thought served the true GOD was unbearable to me. I just needed a kind, tolerant, non-violent, non-human like GOD(the worldly images of so called God really affected my view too). I thought GOD should be Spirit and everywhere & not like human. Presently, I have discovered that HE is more than what I expected back then. HE is more than wonderful, kind, loving, caring and other good things you can think of



My View on Homosexuality
I accepted lots of secular views back then, like legalizing homosexuality, abortion, fornication etc even though I didn't think deep into their advantages and disadvantages. I hated the idea of men touching men though, I just tolerated their freedom to do whatever they want (as long as they don't hurt anyone). I wanted to be considered "civilized" back then and avoid being part of "hateful christains"

There was a former president who made me to be a bit cautious. I wondered why he was so focused on homosexuality and trying to impose it on nations when there are other human rights abuses he should be more focused on too.
Now I think I know why they want lots of people to be homosexual. I was too naive and thoroughly decieved back them.
The Word of GOD is 100% true. Truely repent of your sins and get baptized to understand the gem the world is missing. Always believe while reading.
Re: How I viewed Homosexuality back then as an Athiest, and Now by OpenYourEyes1(op): 7:51am On Jan 26, 2021
OpenYourEyes1:
By the way, I wasn't really fully athiest back then. I usually switch between "athiesm" to "believing in a GOD that is more superior to Christian GOD". The hypocrisy among those I thought served the true GOD was unbearable to me. I just needed a kind, tolerant, non-violent, non-human like GOD(the worldly images of so called God really affected my view too). I thought GOD should be Spirit and everywhere & not like human. Presently, I have discovered that HE is more than what I expected back then. HE is more than wonderful, kind, loving, caring and other good things you can think of



My View on Homosexuality
I accepted lots of secular views back then, like legalizing homosexuality, abortion, fornication etc even though I didn't think deep into their advantages and disadvantages. I hated the idea of men touching men though, I just tolerated their freedom to do whatever they want (as long as they don't hurt anyone). I wanted to be considered "civilized" back then and avoid being part of "hateful christains"

There was a former president who made me to be a bit cautious. I wondered why he was so focused on homosexuality and trying to impose it on nations when there are other human rights abuses he should be more focused on too.
Now I think I know why they want lots of people to be homosexual. I was too naive and thoroughly decieved back them.
The Word of GOD is 100% true. Truely repent of your sins and get baptized to understand the gem the world is missing. Always believe while reading.
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Re: How I viewed Homosexuality back then as an Athiest, and Now by OpenYourEyes1(op): 7:56am On Feb 26, 2021
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Re: How I viewed Homosexuality back then as an Athiest, and Now by OpenYourEyes1(op): 7:46am On Jul 08, 2021
OpenYourEyes1:
By the way, I wasn't really fully athiest back then. I usually switch between "athiesm" to "believing in a GOD that is more superior to Christian GOD". The hypocrisy among those I thought served the true GOD was unbearable to me. I just needed a kind, tolerant, non-violent, non-human like GOD(the worldly images of so called God really affected my view too). I thought GOD should be Spirit and everywhere & not like human. Presently, I have discovered that HE is more than what I expected back then. HE is more than wonderful, kind, loving, caring and other good things you can think of



My View on Homosexuality
I accepted lots of secular views back then, like legalizing homosexuality, abortion, fornication etc even though I didn't think deep into their advantages and disadvantages. I hated the idea of men touching men though, I just tolerated their freedom to do whatever they want (as long as they don't hurt anyone). I wanted to be considered "civilized" back then and avoid being part of "hateful christains"

There was a former president who made me to be a bit cautious. I wondered why he was so focused on homosexuality and trying to impose it on nations when there are other human rights abuses he should be more focused on too.
Now I think I know why they want lots of people to be homosexual. I was too naive and thoroughly decieved back them.
The Word of GOD is 100% true. Truely repent of your sins and get baptized to understand the gem the world is missing. Always believe while reading.
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