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Never Again. by uchkochi(m): 9:04pm On Aug 17, 2020
NEVER AGAIN.

Never again will you make the same mistake that caused you so much pain, Never again will you lose what you have invested, never again will you enter a marital relationship that will not lead to marriage, never again will you not have more than enough to live on and to give to people, never again will you ever be depressed again. Affliction shall not arise again. Nahum 1:9. The bible says that afflictions shall not arise again a second time. Please believe whatever the bible says because it is true. That ugly and unfavorable situation will not rise up again. You are covered by the blood of Jesus Christ. Your protection from today is guaranteed. Be bold, be fearless,He that is in you is greater than he that is in the world.

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Re: Never Again. by Kobojunkie: 10:21pm On Aug 17, 2020
uchkochi:
NEVER AGAIN.

Never again will you make the same mistake that caused you so much pain, Never again will you lose what you have invested, never again will you enter a marital relationship that will not lead to marriage, never again will you not have more than enough to live on and to give to people, never again will you ever be depressed again. Affliction shall not arise again. Nahum 1:9. The bible says that afflictions shall not arise again a second time. Please believe whatever the bible says because it is true. That ugly and unfavorable situation will not rise up again. You are covered by the blood of Jesus Christ. Your protection from today is guaranteed. Be bold, be fearless,He that is in you is greater than he that is in the world.

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Jesus Christ, the Truth of God, said the power is in His name, not His blood. What is this fascination with His blood instead? Voodoo worship or something?

Re: Never Again. by Nobody: 10:33pm On Aug 17, 2020
Amen!

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Re: Never Again. by Csonice1: 1:18am On Aug 18, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ, the Truth of God, said the power is in His name, not His blood. What is this fascination with His blood instead? Voodoo worship or something?

There is power in His name; the glory of His Name :the Authority he has was obtained for us through the Cross; through his blood; that's the power; for our redemption, for overcoming the devil. The devil is scared of it.
if you're now scared of the blood; are you sure you're for Christ?

why criticise another man's sincere prayer?

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Re: Never Again. by Kobojunkie: 1:21am On Aug 18, 2020
Csonice1:

There is power in His name; the glory of His Name :the Authority he has was obtained for us through the Cross; through his blood; that's the power; for our redemption, for overcoming the devil. The devil is scared of it.
if you're now scared of the blood; are you sure you're for Christ?

why criticise another man's sincere prayer?
Jesus Christ commanded that we obey His teachings and commandments, and nowhere in His teaching does He command we pray by power of his blood. He made it clear that it was by His name that we pray.

So where do you get the idea of praying by some power in His blood? Do you not understand that we are not meant to add or remove from His teachings in anyway?
God Almighty commanded that we ask Him anything in the name of Jesus Christ, but instead here you are asking by some assumed power in His blood and you believe this is in agreement with what God said you should do, where?
Re: Never Again. by Csonice1: 1:39am On Aug 18, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ commanded that we obey His teachings and commandments, and nowhere in His teaching does He command we pray by power of his blood. He made it clear that it was by His name that we pray.

So where do you get the idea of praying by some power in His blood? Do you not understand that we are not meant to add or remove from His teachings in anyway?
God Almighty commanded that we ask Him anything in the name of Jesus Christ, but instead here you are asking by some assumed power in His blood and you believe this is in agreement with what God said you should do, where?

understood.
you have no cause to worry about that,
praying in the name is something greater: I don't know if it has been revealed to you. but you should understand that praying in Jesus' Name can be seen as using His signature to sign your prayer request: it's not just you that prays: The Father sees the Name of His beloved Son.
Now the power in the blood of Jesus is real: it has an overcoming power over the enemy. declaration of that testimony is bringing your strong points( witnesses) to back up the request:

Isaiah 41:21
"Produce your cause, saith the LORD; bring forth your strong reasons, saith the King of Jacob."

Revelation 12:11 says:
" And they( the children of God) overcame him(the devil) by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death."

it can also be likened to the blood of the lamb on the door post of the Israelites in Egypt.
Re: Never Again. by Kobojunkie: 3:07am On Aug 18, 2020
In the old Covenant, God declared that no one should add rules or remove rules from His covenant. He instructed that the people obey the rules as-is, as it was given them by God.

Deuteronomy 4 vs 1-2 (ERV)
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1. “Now, Israel, listen to the laws and to the commands that I teach you. Obey them and you will live. Then you can go in and take the land that the Lord, the God of your ancestors, is giving you.
2. You must not add to what I command you. And you must not take anything away. You must obey the commands of the Lord your God that I have given you.
In the New Covenant, Jesus Christ took to explaining the reason for why we should not add or remove from God's covennant commandments in any way. He explains that when anyone modifies His commandments/teachings through doctrines and rules of men, such a person renders his worship of God null and void, and the power of God in the life of such is nullified.

Mark 7 vs 1-13 (ERV)
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1. Now when the Pharisees gathered to him, with some of the scribes who had come from Jerusalem,
2. they saw that some of his disciples ate with hands that were defiled, that is, unwashed.
3. (For the Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they wash their hands properly,[a] holding to the tradition of the elders,
4. and when they come from the marketplace, they do not eat unless they wash. And there are many other traditions that they observe, such as the washing of cups and pots and copper vessels and dining couches.[c])
[b] 5.
And the Pharisees and the scribes asked him, “Why do your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat with defiled hands?”
6. And he said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written,
“‘This people honors me with their lips,
but their heart is far from me;

7. in vain do they worship me,
teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’


8. You leave the commandment of God and hold to the (doctrines and rules)** tradition of men.”
9. And he said to them, “You have a fine way of rejecting the commandment of God in order to establish your tradition!
10. For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘Whoever reviles father or mother must surely die.’
11. But you say, ‘If a man tells his father or his mother, “Whatever you would have gained from me is Corban”’ (that is, given to God)[d]—
12. then you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or mother,
13. thus making void the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And many such things you do.”
** substituted from another Bible translation for better understanding of what is impacted
Csonice1:
understood.
you have no cause to worry about that,
praying in the name is something greater: I don't know if it has been revealed to you. but you should understand that praying in Jesus' Name can be seen as using His signature to sign your prayer request: it's not just you that prays: The Father sees the Name of His beloved Son.
The point? Well, Jesus Christ , the New Covenant is the source of the salvation we claim. And the contract we sign with Him when we accept Him(Obey His commandments) is that we will not water down or enhance the contract in any shape of form. Basically, to become a follower of Jesus Christ, one essentially swears by one's own soul not to tamper with the rules of the agreement, the New Covenant, in anyway. Praying & asking in His name(alone) is a part and parcel of that contract. By that name alone, every knee is meant to bow.

So, suggesting that there is something greater than that name means you are no longer satisfied with the New Covenant contract that you supposedly signed with Jesus Christ. Worse, praying instead by that something greater, NULLIFIES the power of God in your life and situation, rending your worship meaningless, according to what Jesus Christ has said, putting your very soul in jeopardy by that same.
Csonice1:
Now the power in the blood of Jesus is real: it has an overcoming power over the enemy. declaration of that testimony is bringing your strong points( witnesses) to back up the request:
Isaiah 41:21 "Produce your cause, saith the LORD; bring forth your strong reasons, saith the King of Jacob."

Revelation 12:11 says: " And they( the children of God) overcame him(the devil) by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death."

it can also be likened to the blood of the lamb on the door post of the Israelites in Egypt.
Again, Jesus Christ NEVER instituted praying by His blood as part of the New Covenant agreement you supposedly signed with Him. So, whatever power you are getting from that blood, given that you were unable to show where Jesus Christ, the one whose blood it is, gave you permission to pray in the name of His blood, I believe what you are doing is tantamount to adding to God's commandment.
Re: Never Again. by Csonice1: 7:18am On Aug 18, 2020
Kobojunkie:
In the old Covenant, God declared that no one should add rules or remove rules from His covenant. He instructed that the people obey the rules as-is, as it was given them by God.

In the New Covenant, Jesus Christ took to explaining the reason for why we should not add or remove from God's covennant commandments in any way. He explains that when anyone modifies His commandments/teachings through doctrines and rules of men, such a person renders his worship of God null and void, and the power of God in the life of such is nullified.

** substituted from another Bible translation for better understanding of what is impacted
The point? Well, Jesus Christ , the New Covenant is the source of the salvation we claim. And the contract we sign with Him when we accept Him(Obey His commandments) is that we will not water down or enhance the contract in any shape of form. Basically, to become a follower of Jesus Christ, one essentially swears by one's own soul not to tamper with the rules of the agreement, the New Covenant, in anyway. Praying & asking in His name(alone) is a part and parcel of that contract. By that name alone, every knee is meant to bow.

So, suggesting that there is something greater than that name means you are no longer satisfied with the New Covenant contract that you supposedly signed with Jesus Christ. Worse, praying instead by that something greater, NULLIFIES the power of God in your life and situation, rending your worship meaningless, according to what Jesus Christ has said, putting your very soul in jeopardy by that same.
Again, Jesus Christ NEVER instituted praying by His blood as part of the New Covenant agreement you supposedly signed with Him. So, whatever power you are getting from that blood, given that you were unable to show where Jesus Christ, the one whose blood it is, gave you permission to pray in the name of His blood, I believe what you are doing is tantamount to adding to God's commandment.

What is this one talking about?

Jesus said that there are so many things he had to say but since they( the disciples) couldn't bear/understand them, when the Holy Ghost comes he will lead us into the knowledge of all Truth... then in the Bible there are so many Revelations concerning the blood of the Lamb.

Haven't you read that while John was in the spirit, a mystery was revealed unto him:

"they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony..."

besides not only can you use the blood in prayers, you can use it in declaration(testimony) of which the first post on this thread was more of a declaration.

The power in the previous blood scares the devil
too... he doesn't want the Church to use it. well,
seems you don't know what you are saying.

The power in the blood is the power of sanctification, salvation and overcoming the devil. The power of the blood resides in it's ability to achieve these things. It was the price paid for them.
Let remind you that just the same way the devil is defeated by the Word of God (refer to the scriptures where the devil tempts Jesus); He is overcome by the Blood. Every time.

This is scriptural Truth. With this my contribution to the thread ends.
Re: Never Again. by Csonice1: 7:27am On Aug 18, 2020
Kobojunkie:
In the old Covenant, God declared that no one should add rules or remove rules from His covenant. He instructed that the people obey the rules as-is, as it was given them by God.

In the New Covenant, Jesus Christ took to explaining the reason for why we should not add or remove from God's covennant commandments in any way. He explains that when anyone modifies His commandments/teachings through doctrines and rules of men, such a person renders his worship of God null and void, and the power of God in the life of such is nullified.

** substituted from another Bible translation for better understanding of what is impacted
The point? Well, Jesus Christ , the New Covenant is the source of the salvation we claim. And the contract we sign with Him when we accept Him(Obey His commandments) is that we will not water down or enhance the contract in any shape of form. Basically, to become a follower of Jesus Christ, one essentially swears by one's own soul not to tamper with the rules of the agreement, the New Covenant, in anyway. Praying & asking in His name(alone) is a part and parcel of that contract. By that name alone, every knee is meant to bow.

So, suggesting that there is something greater than that name means you are no longer satisfied with the New Covenant contract that you supposedly signed with Jesus Christ. Worse, praying instead by that something greater, NULLIFIES the power of God in your life and situation, rending your worship meaningless, according to what Jesus Christ has said, putting your very soul in jeopardy by that same.
Again, Jesus Christ NEVER instituted praying by His blood as part of the New Covenant agreement you supposedly signed with Him. So, whatever power you are getting from that blood, given that you were unable to show where Jesus Christ, the one whose blood it is, gave you permission to pray in the name of His blood, I believe what you are doing is tantamount to adding to God's commandment.

What is this one talking about?
Go and read your Bible;
You don't acquire things just because you want to, you have to bring your strong points as to why you should have them: salvation, healing, prosperity, protection, wisdom etc. that's why knowledge is important.
Jesus said that there are so many things he had to say but since they( the disciples) couldn't bear/understand them, when the Holy Ghost comes he will lead us into the knowledge of all Truth... then in the Bible there are so many Revelations concerning the blood of the Lamb by the Spirit: ranging from the power of the Holy communion to the ability to defeat Satan through the Blood.

Haven't you read that while John was in the Spirit, a mystery was revealed unto him:

"they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the Word of their testimony..."

besides not only can you use the blood in prayers, you can use it in declaration(testimony) of which the first post on this thread was more of a declaration.

The power in the previous blood scares the devil
too... he doesn't want the Church to use it.

The power in the blood is the power of sanctification, salvation and overcoming the devil. The power of the blood resides in it's ability to achieve these things. It was the price paid for them.
Let me remind you that just the same way the devil is defeated by the Word of God (refer to the scriptures where the devil tempts Jesus); He is overcome by the Blood. Every time.

This is scriptural Truth. With this, my contribution to the thread ends.
Re: Never Again. by Kobojunkie: 7:30am On Aug 18, 2020
Csonice1:
What is this one talking about?
Jesus said that there are so many things he had to say but since they( the disciples) couldn't bear/understand them, when the Holy Ghost comes he will lead us into the knowledge of all Truth... then in the Bible there are so many Revelations concerning the blood of the Lamb.
The statement in bold has been used to bastardize the teachings of Jesus Christ since the very first century.
Csonice1:
Haven't you read that while John was in the spirit, a mystery was revealed unto him:
"they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony..."
Where did John, the one whom this supposed truth was revealed to, tell you that you could then pray by the blood of Jesus Christ?
Csonice1:
besides not only can you use the blood in prayers, you can use it in declaration(testimony) of which the first post on this thread was more of a declaration.
Where did John the apostle tell you that could declare a testimony by the blood of Jesus Christ?
Csonice1:
The power in the previous blood scares the devil too... he doesn't want the Church to use it. well, seems you don't know what you are saying.
So, according to you, the power in the blood of Jesus Christ is greater than the power in His name, or do I have this wrong?
Csonice1:
The power in the blood is the power of sanctification, salvation and overcoming the devil. The power of the blood resides in it's ability to achieve these things. It was the price paid for them.
So, it is no longer the New Covenant that God promised us that saves us -- but it is by the blood of Jesus Christ that we receive Salvation, Sanctification and the overcoming?
Csonice1:
Let remind you that just the same way the devil is defeated by the Word of God (refer to the scriptures where the devil tempts Jesus); He is overcome by the Blood. Every time.
This is scriptural Truth. With this my contribution to the thread ends.
Jesus Christ already overcame everything for us when He went to the cross to die so that we may be redeemed from the curse of the Old Covenant, and instead be able to partake in the New Covenant. So why do we need to overcome the devil again, and by the blood of Jesus Christ too?
Re: Never Again. by Csonice1: 7:37am On Aug 18, 2020
Kobojunkie:
The statement in bold has been used to bastardize the teachings of Jesus Christ since the very first century.
Where did John, the one whom this supposed truth was revealed to, tell you that you could then pray by the blood of Jesus Christ?
Where did John the apostle tell you that could declare a testimony by the blood of Jesus Christ?
So, according to you, the power in the blood of Jesus Christ is greater than the power in His name, or do I have this wrong?
So, it is no longer the New Covenant that God promised us that saves us -- but it is by the blood of Jesus Christ that we receive Salvation, Sanctification and the overcoming?
Jesus Christ already overcame everything for us when He went to the cross to die so that we may be redeemed from the curse of the Old Covenant, and instead be able to partake in the New Covenant. So why do we need to overcome the devil again, and by the blood of Jesus Christ too?
LOlz,
my contribution ended with the last post please.
Re: Never Again. by Kobojunkie: 7:40am On Aug 18, 2020
Csonice1:

LOlz,
my contribution ended with the last post please.
Becareful what you have chosen to believe there. The man whose blood you pray in never told you to use his blood in any other way except in communion. God hates sin but He cannot stand disobedience at all.
Re: Never Again. by joyandfaith: 10:02am On Aug 18, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Becareful what you have chosen to believe there. The man whose blood you pray in never told you to use his blood in any other way except in communion. God hates sin but He cannot stand disobedience at all.

why are you to teach him what to believe ? are u God? or Jesus? or Holy Spirit? If can you ignore instructions of Apostles for us congregate together, you have no right to tell anyone what they should believe. You even said you cannot listen or obey Apostles. is that not hypocrisy?
Re: Never Again. by DappaD: 11:03am On Aug 18, 2020
joyandfaith:


why are you to teach him what to believe ? are u God? or Jesus? or Holy Spirit? If can you ignore instructions of Apostles for us congregate together, you have no right to tell anyone what they should believe. You even said you cannot listen or obey Apostles. is that not hypocrisy?

He claims he's a follower of Christ but doesn't want to be part of any group and has no regard for the Bible.
So instead of teaching the ignorant ones from the Bible the real application of Jesus’ blood–as regards the once-and-for-all atonement of sins(something that he doesn't know, proving he's ignorant as well), he’s ever ready to force his own opinion down the throats of others grin grin
Re: Never Again. by joyandfaith: 11:07am On Aug 18, 2020
DappaD:


He claims he's a follower of Christ but doesn't want to be part of any group and has no regard for the Bible.
So instead of teaching them from the Bible the true application of Jesus’ blood–as regards the once-and-for-all atonement of sins(something that he doesn't know), he’s ever ready to force his own opinion down the throats of others grin grin

he has shot himself in the foot by saying he can not listen to Apostles.

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