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OLAADEGBU:
God, His children and holy angels know who makes heaven rejoice, while you may take pride in promoting those who entertain the world. No one is competing with you.

LOL. There are many vessels of honor but some are more honorable than others. The ones who are persecuted the most are venerated by God the most. So keep hating the man, you are promoting him more.

"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: Behold, [color=red]he is in the secret chambers; believe it not" (Matthew 24:24-26).

Face what concerns you today and see that Jesus had already warned us concerning your false christs and prophets that will deceive the elect today. Those who have ears let them hear what the Spirit is saying.

Of course, misquoting scriptures as usual.

Shepherds do not look like or dress like sheep. In fact, Jesus never referred to leaders as sheep. It was always the flock. So read it again, wolves in sheep clothing are false brethren. People who have turned false prophets by declaring falsely that God gave them a word concerning other brothers. They are the ravenous wolves Paul also warned about in Ephesus where he said "from among your brethren". So start looking in the mirror if you are looking for wolves acting like sheep. Their duty is to tear the sheep down. Pretty much what you are trying to do.

Maestro21:
Foolish pride.

Hope you have now seen that Peter cannot be referring to ALL MOGs as he too is included in that list.

Go and play somewhere biko.

Peter, the apostle, warned people about ALL MOGs (False Prophets and Teachers), from about 2000 years ago.

2 Peter 2 vs 1-7 (ERV)
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1. In the past there were false prophets among God’s people. It is the same now. You will have some false teachers in your group. They will teach things that are wrong—ideas that will cause people to be lost. And they will teach in a way that will be hard for you to see that they are wrong. They will even refuse to follow the Master who bought their freedom. And so they will quickly destroy themselves.
2. Many people will follow them in the morally wrong things they do. And because of them, others will say bad things about the way of truth we follow.
3. These false teachers only want your money. So they will use you by telling you things that are not true. But the judgment against these false teachers has been ready for a long time. And they will not escape God who will destroy them.

4. When angels sinned, God did not let them go free without punishment. He sent them to hell. He put those angels in caves of darkness, where they are being held until the time when God will judge them.

5. And God punished the evil people who lived long ago. He brought a flood to the world that was full of people who were against God. But he saved Noah and seven other people with him. Noah was a man who told people about living right.

6. God also punished the evil cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. He burned them until there was nothing left but ashes. He used those cities as an example of what will happen to people who are against God.
7. But he saved Lot, a good man who lived there. Lot was greatly troubled by the morally bad lives of those evil people. 8 This good man lived with those evil people every day, and his good heart was hurt by the evil things he saw and heard.

Maestro21:
LOL. There are many vessels of honor but some are more honorable than others. The ones who are persecuted the most are venerated by God the most. So keep hating the man, you are promoting him more.

How is your master persecuted? We know that the mainstream and social media houses all protect him from being scrutinised as he has paid them off and put them under his spell. Even the magistrates and law enforcement officers are turning their faces to the other side when cases of child sex abuse and murder are brought before them. He has now proceeded to hoodwink gullible Christians like yourself into having him as their mentor thereby robbing you of your glory and destinies and you are here saying that he is being persecuted.

Maestro21:
Of course, misquoting scriptures as usual.

Shepherds do not look like or dress like sheep. In fact, Jesus never referred to leaders as sheep. It was always the flock. So read it again, wolves in sheep clothing are false brethren. People who have turned false prophets by declaring falsely that God gave them a word concerning other brothers. They are the ravenous wolves Paul also warned about in Ephesus where he said "from among your brethren". So start looking in the mirror if you are looking for wolves acting like sheep. Their duty is to tear the sheep down. Pretty much what you are trying to do.

The depiction below shows how gullible flock like yourselves treat Christians who spot wolves in your midst.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12172748_wolfspotting_jpg09e68ca152d520cb67e6b35a5f32ca3a

OLAADEGBU:
How is your master persecuted? We know that the mainstream and social media houses all protect him from being scrutinised as he has paid them off and put them under his spell. Even the magistrates and law enforcement officers are turning their faces to the other side when cases of child sex abuse and murder are brought before them. He has now proceeded to hoodwink gullible Christians like yourself into having him as their mentor thereby robbing you of your glory and destinies and you are here saying that he is being persecuted.

LOL.

Same rubbish every day. Same false stories. Keep peddling lies. The more you do it, the more God sends angels to protect the man.

Kobojunkie:
You really don't undertand do you? It is not about what I, or you think. What God said, what Jesus Christ said is what matters. .Jesus Christ is the truth of God and when He says anyone who disobeys what He command is not of Him, then it doesn't matter what you think or what I think.
I don't listen to men.... only God is my one and only Teacher, my Master. So, when you say that Jealousy, envy and perceived inferiority complex is my reason, that doesn't even bother me on bit because it does not matter what you, or I, think.
Better still, become a follower of Jesus Christ --Let Him be your one and only masters. And maybe then, you will see how ridiculous it really is to pine after mere men

Could you please quote some of what Jesus said?
I know Jesus said;

"Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Mark 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.

Our Lord and savior also said;

John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Luke 11:49 Therefore also said the wisdom of God, I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they shall slay and persecute:

Luke 6:26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.
Luke 6:23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.

John 6:14 Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did, said, This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world.
Mark 6:4 But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house..

Are you by any chance familiar with the truth in 1st Cor 12:4-31, talking about diversities of spiritual gifts and body of Christ?

Do you still believe that
"Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever? . Hebrews 13:8


May i ask you some questions?

*Do you still believe what Jesus said that greater works shall be done after he has gone to the Father?
*Do you believe in miracles, signs and wonders, even as God's way of showing to the world that that is His business?
*Do you believe that God still sends great Prophets to the world?
*Do you believe that all God's servants do not have the same gifts?
*How will you know who he has sent to do these?
*How do you test spirits to know which side they belong?
*Can you outline how to differentiate between false and true servants of God? Back it up with Biblical verses?
*Have you ever asked God to reveal who a particular servant of His truly is or not
*Do you base your assessment only on what your physical eyes see, read or your ears hear other people say?

Listen to that Pastor Isaiah wealth for many more i have to say. Cheers

AdeniyiA:
Could you please quote some of what Jesus said? I know Jesus said;

Always remember, that truth lies within the context within which the verse lives.

Matthew 7 vs 15-23 (ERV)
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15. “Be careful of false prophets. They come to you and look gentle like sheep. But they are really dangerous like wolves.
16. You will know these people because of what they do. Good things don’t come from people who are bad, just as grapes don’t come from thornbushes, and figs don’t come from thorny weeds.
17. In the same way, every good tree produces good fruit, and bad trees produce bad fruit.
18. A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot produce good fruit.
19. Every tree that does not produce good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
20. You will know these false people by what they do.[a]

21. “Not everyone who calls me Lord will enter God’s kingdom. The only people who will enter are those who do what my Father in heaven wants.
22. On that last Day many will call me Lord. They will say, ‘Lord, Lord, by the power of your name we spoke for God. And by your name we forced out demons and did many miracles.’
23. Then I will tell those people clearly, ‘Get away from me, you people who do wrong. I never knew you.’

Jesus Christ lashed out at Scribes,Pharisees, and MOGs... Teachers of the Law who were not chosen by God to Teach His people but assigned themselves as Teachers/gods over His people anyways.

It was only as part of the old Covenant that MOGs known as 'men of God' were set up to teach God's people, the descendants of Israel, about God's commandments and ways. However, the office was hijacked by men who took to installing themselves according to their own rules, as leaders over God's own people, setting themselves up as dictators over God's people where it God and matters that concern God. With His New Covenant, God declared that the office of MOGs null and void. Instead, as part of His new Covenant, God declared He alone will teach His flock about Himself.

So your MOGs, who pretend to be of Jesus Christ, were never set up as Teachers over God's people... they were simply meant to preach the good news of Jesus Christ to those who were not saved... not to install themselves as managers over those who were, but instead, these men have

1. Set themselves up as 'spiritual' leaders/authorities over Jesus Christ's flock

Matthew 20 vs 24-28 (ESV)
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25. So Jesus called the followers together. He said, “You know that the rulers of the non-Jewish people love to show their power over the people. And their important leaders love to use all their authority over the people.
26. But it should not be that way with you. Whoever wants to be your leader must be your servant.
27. Whoever wants to be first must serve the rest of you like a slave.
28. Do as I did: The Son of Man did not come for people to serve him. He came to serve others and to give his life to save many people.”

2. Proclaim themselves spiritual 'abbas' over those they have been sent out to preach the good news of the Kingdom of God to

Matthew 23 vs 8-9
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8. But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brothers.[c]
9. And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven.

3. Planted themselves as go-betweens between God and His flock

Matthew 6 vs 24 (ERV)
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24. “You cannot serve two masters at the same time. You will hate one and love the other, or you will be loyal to one and not care about the other. You cannot serve God and Money[d] at the same time.

4. Established themselves as teachers teaching doctrines and traditions different from what Jesus Christ taught them

Matthew 23 vs 10-12
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10. Neither be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Christ.
11. The greatest among you shall be your servant.
12. Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

5. To add insult to the pile, your MOGs add rules/commandments to the set of rules that God has set up for His people to obey.

Mark 7 vs 1-13 (ERV)
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1. Now when the Pharisees gathered to him, with some of the scribes who had come from Jerusalem,
2. they saw that some of his disciples ate with hands that were defiled, that is, unwashed.
3. (For the Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they wash their hands properly,[a] holding to the tradition of the elders,
4. and when they come from the marketplace, they do not eat unless they wash. And there are many other traditions that they observe, such as the washing of cups and pots and copper vessels and dining couches.[c])
[b] 5. And the Pharisees and the scribes asked him, “Why do your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat with defiled hands?”
6. And he said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written,
“‘This people honors me with their lips,
but their heart is far from me;
7. in vain do they worship me,
teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’

8. You leave the commandment of God and hold to the (doctrines and rules)** tradition of men.”
9. And he said to them, “You have a fine way of rejecting the commandment of God in order to establish your tradition!
10. For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘Whoever reviles father or mother must surely die.’
11. But you say, ‘If a man tells his father or his mother, “Whatever you would have gained from me is Corban”’ (that is, given to God)[d]—
12. then you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or mother,
13. thus making void the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And many such things you do.”

** substituted from another Bible translation for better understanding of what is impacted

If you study the Old Covenant Teachers of the Law, you will find that these were the same infractions Jesus Christ leveled against them while He was here on earth. And He did warn us, using the Old Covenant Teachers of the Law as examples, against men who would establish themselves in a similar manner over His own followers, all while pretending to come to us in the name of God.

I can go on but the truth is, your MOGs exist in direct disobedience to the very commandments of Jesus Christ. Peter, the apostle, warned people about ALL MOGs (False Prophets and Teachers), from about 2000 years ago.

2 Peter 2 vs 1-7 (ERV)
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1. In the past there were false prophets among God’s people. It is the same now. You will have some false teachers in your group. They will teach things that are wrong—ideas that will cause people to be lost. And they will teach in a way that will be hard for you to see that they are wrong. They will even refuse to follow the Master who bought their freedom. And so they will quickly destroy themselves.
2. Many people will follow them in the morally wrong things they do. And because of them, others will say bad things about the way of truth we follow.
3. These false teachers only want your money. So they will use you by telling you things that are not true. But the judgment against these false teachers has been ready for a long time. And they will not escape God who will destroy them.

4. When angels sinned, God did not let them go free without punishment. He sent them to hell. He put those angels in caves of darkness, where they are being held until the time when God will judge them.

5. And God punished the evil people who lived long ago. He brought a flood to the world that was full of people who were against God. But he saved Noah and seven other people with him. Noah was a man who told people about living right.

6. God also punished the evil cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. He burned them until there was nothing left but ashes. He used those cities as an example of what will happen to people who are against God.
7. But he saved Lot, a good man who lived there. Lot was greatly troubled by the morally bad lives of those evil people. 8 This good man lived with those evil people every day, and his good heart was hurt by the evil things he saw and heard.

Some will never try to find out the truth through the light of God because they have been thoroughly indoctrinated and made to see others as enemies of God, thereby bringing divisein the body of Christ.
Many who persecute TB JOSHUA today were told by their leaders not to have anything to do with his church and members(hatred, divisive tactics) quoting some parts of the Bible to suit their strategies while leaving the others, hypocritical.
While the ignorant members too take them all hook, line and sinker.

It’s even unthinkable that you believe that God would be looking without doing anything if He did not send TB JOSHUA, seeing him doing such great works of faith throughout the world, converting, delivering and bringing more souls to God's kingdom. The Whites trust and believe him more to be a true servant of the Most High. He preaches & practices love, compassionate, fear of God, very humble, hence the name Jesus works for him whenever he calls Him.
Haters and those who do not want their members to see miracles and works of faith as it is written in the the Bible nd who are afraid of loosing members, will quickly find a Bible passage like "Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?, to make them believe that God no longer uses people to do wonders. Hypocrites!
Let me tell you, the age of miracle has not passed, the miracle workers has not change, HIS NAME IS JESUS!
why hating a man who honors Jesus with what he does and passionately asks that we do his will, love him and fear God.
In fact He does not ask that you leave your church.

Before anybody tells or convinces you that TB JOSHUA is fake, just do your own research first about him, while asking that God open your eyes, then watch YouTube videos of his works, watch his TV station Emmanuel.tv. Do not be afraid like OLAADEBGU that you'd be hypnotised so funny, that's part of what they teach them just to instill fear & the hate, instead of love
KOBOJUNKIE

AdeniyiA:
"Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Mark 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
Our Lord and savior also said;
John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
Luke 11:49 Therefore also said the wisdom of God, I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they shall slay and persecute:
Luke 6:26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.
Luke 6:23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.
John 6:14 Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did, said, This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world.
Mark 6:4 But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house..

Are you by any chance familiar with the truth in 1st Cor 12:4-31, talking about diversities of spiritual gifts and body of Christ?

Do you still believe that
"Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever? . Hebrews 13:8

God does not Change His mind and neither does He lie!

AdeniyiA:
May i ask you some questions? *Do you still believe what Jesus said that greater works shall be done after he has gone to the Father?

We will do greater work but these works will be done in OBEDIENCE to the Commandments and Will of God, not against (anti-Christ).

AdeniyiA:
*Do you believe in miracles, signs and wonders, even as God's way of showing to the world that that is His business?

Miracles, Signs and Wonders are true, but again, all in OBEDIENCE to the commandments and Will of God, not against(anti-Christ)

AdeniyiA:
*Do you believe that God still sends great Prophets to the world?

In the New Covenant, what God sends out in to the world(the unbelievers, to those who already believe) His followers, every single one of the born of the very Spirit of God, and potential Prophets, for He gives them gifts according to how He sees fit.

AdeniyiA:
*Do you believe that all God's servants do not have the same gifts?

In the New Covenant that is Jesus Christ, God decides what gifts to give His followers.. if He wants them all to have the same gifts, He can do that... with God nothing is impossible.

AdeniyiA:
*How will you know who he has sent to do this?

Only the Spirit of God(God Himself) can communicate that to anyone. Hence the reason why God decided that He will be the seal of His New Covenant(Jesus Christ), Teaching, Guiding, Counseling, Comforting, and Helping each and every one of His followers.

AdeniyiA:
*How do you test spirits to know which side they belong?

According to John,

1 John 4 vs 1-3 (ERV)
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1. Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
2. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,
3. and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.

Note: John did not say you query/test a man/flesh and blood. Inside, the spirit inside of the man. Also, any spirit that acts in disobedience to the commandments of Jesus Christ is not of Christ (anti-Christ).

AdeniyiA:
*Can you outline how to differentiate between false and true servants of God?
Listen to that Pastor Isaiah wealth for many more i have to say. Cheers

Outline? Jesus Christ told you straight up that by their fruits you shall know them. Even better, he made it plain that anyone who does not obey His commandments is not of Him.

John 14 vs 23-24 (ERV)
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23. Jesus answered, “All who love me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them. My Father and I will come to them and live with them.
24. But anyone who does not love me does not obey my teaching. This teaching that you hear is not really mine. It is from my Father who sent me.

John the apostle took a less subtle approach to answering this one where he declares anyone who says he/she is of Jesus Christ but does not obey Jesus Christ's own teaching is nothing but a liar and Jesus Christ does not live inside of such a person.

1 John 2 vs 3-6
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3. If we obey what God has told us to do, then we are sure that we know him.
4. If we say we know God but do not obey his commands, we are lying. The truth is not in us.
5. But when we obey God’s teaching, his love is truly working in us. This is how we know that we are living in him.
6. If we say we live in God, we must live the way Jesus lived.

HedwigesMaduro:
I personally don't follow prophets, GOs or any of that spiritual father stuff. So, I'm not into wanting to know whether you are a true prophet or not. I have my Bible and a relationship with God (which is though not perfect, but God is helping). But when it comes to TB Joshua there were past events that have red flags about him.

Like what

Ehiscotch:
I normally don't get into discussions about Pastors and false prophets but the Bible says:

1 John 4:1
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Galatians 1:8
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Galatians 1:9
As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

The truth is so many Churchgoers don't know the Bible so they are swayed and deceived by the works that they see. Many of them are hypnotized by the aura and charisma of these pastors that they are blindsided because they have failed to "test every spirit".

If it was based on works or miracles Paul would not warn of the "preaching of another gospel".

2 Timothy 4:2-3 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

So do not judge not by his congregation or his withstanding of "persecution". For even the "falsest" of teachers have the largest congregation.

Search your scriptures for the truth and follow those who teach it.

Acts 17:10-11 And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.
These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

Matthew 7:13-24 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

Happy Sunday.

You're right 100%

Kobojunkie:
God does not Change His mind and neither does He lie!


We will do greater work but these works will be done in OBEDIENCE to the Commandments and Will of God, not against (anti-Christ).
Miracles, Signs and Wonders are true, but again, all in OBEDIENCE to the commandments and Will of God, not against(anti-Christ)
In the New Covenant, what God sends out in to the world(the unbelievers, to those who already believe) His followers, every single one of the born of the very Spirit of God, and potential Prophets, for He gives them gifts according to how He sees fit.
In the New Covenant that is Jesus Christ, God decides what gifts to give His followers.. if He wants them all to have the same gifts, He can do that... with God nothing is impossible.
Only the Spirit of God(God Himself) can communicate that to anyone. Hence the reason why God decided that He will be the seal of His New Covenant(Jesus Christ), Teaching, Guiding, Counseling, Comforting, and Helping each and every one of His followers.
According to John,
Note: John did not say you query/test a man/flesh and blood. Inside, the spirit inside of the man. Also, any spirit that acts in disobedience to the commandments of Jesus Christ is not of Christ (anti-Christ).
Outline? Jesus Christ told you straight up that by their fruits you shall know them. Even better, he made it plain that anyone who does not obey His commandments is not of Him.

John the apostle took a less subtle approach to answering this one where he declares anyone who says he/she is of Jesus Christ but does not obey Jesus Christ's own teaching is nothing but a liar and Jesus Christ does not live inside of such a person.

Good responses, one common phrase in your answers is "OBEDIENCE to the commandments and Will of God, not against(anti-Christ)" and also you said, according to the Bible, that by their fruits you shall know them... Good.

I want to ask you a sincere question, Do you really know the man TB JOSHUA and his works. As in, have you really personally studied his ministry in order to make your own assessment, inspired by God.?
I asked this question based on your answers, Because from my own assessment, he conforms excellently to your answers

Let us be very careful in giving God's glory to Satan. It's blasphemy

AdeniyiA:
Some will never try to find out the truth through the light of God because they have been thoroughly indoctrinated and made to see others as enemies of God, thereby bringing divisein the body of Christ.
Many who persecute TB JOSHUA today were told by their leaders not to have anything to do with his church and members(hatred, divisive tactics) quoting some parts of the Bible to suit their strategies while leaving the others, hypocritical.
While the ignorant members too take them all hook, line and sinker.

Well, that is for those who are have set these men as Masters over their souls to dissect.

AdeniyiA:
It’s even unthinkable that you believe that God would be looking without doing anything if He did not send TB JOSHUA, seeing him doing such great works of faith throughout the world, converting, delivering and bringing more souls to God's kingdom.

You mean the very same God that did not stop the massacre of Christians during the first, second, and third centuries? He already warned His own to beware of the wolves and false teachers/prophets. What do you expect Him to do? Cause the ground to open up and swallow up all the wolves? Jesus Christ made it His mission to thoroughly warn His sheep about the wolves. The same God you speak of, issued warning after warning after warning against the false prophets/MOGs who led His people astray.

AdeniyiA:
The Whites trust and believe him more to be a true servant of the Most High. He preaches & practices love, compassionate, fear of God, very humble, hence the name Jesus works for him whenever he calls Him.

Well, even if the blues bow before him, the facts don't lie as far as Jesus Christ is concerned. All those who disobey Him, Jesus Christ, are not His, no matter what they say or do, or who bows to them.

AdeniyiA:
Haters and those who do not want their members to see miracles and works of faith as it is written in the the Bible nd who are afraid of loosing members, will quickly find a Bible passage like "Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?, to make them believe that God no longer uses people to do wonders. Hypocrites!

God no longer works miracles and wonders through His people? I don't know where you get that belief from. Jesus Christ said we will do the works He did and more, but the key is we will do it in obedience of His commandments. There are those in the world who do signs and wonders to but not in obedience to the Will of God. That should not be the same for followers of Jesus Christ

AdeniyiA:
Let me tell you, the age of miracle has not passed, the miracle workers has not change, HIS NAME IS JESUS!
why hating a man who honors Jesus with what he does and passionately asks that we do his will, love him and fear God.
In fact He does not ask that you leave your church.

Well, I don't believe there was an age of miracles. I believe that the power of God is the same power that was in Jesus Christ, and still lives in His followers to this day.

AdeniyiA:
Before anybody tells or convinces you that TB JOSHUA is fake, just do your own research first about him, while asking that God open your eyes, then watch YouTube videos of his works, watch his TV station Emmanuel.tv. Do not be afraid like OLAADEBGU that you'd be hypnotised so funny, that's part of what they teach them just to instill fear & the hate, instead of love
KOBOJUNKIE

ROFLMAO!

I am sorry but I am against all MOGs and nobody but Jesus Christ's me what to believe about all things.

@SIR KOBOJUNKIE
This phrase "... IN OBEDIENCE TO GOD'S COMMANDMENTS...", always appear in your Write up and I'd love you to expatiate from your perspective, how for example TB JOSHUA is doing things against God's commands.


From your comments I could deduce that even if you were alive during the time of Jesus, you wouldn't believe him nevertheless. As you said you do not believe in any MOG... by this it'd be extremely difficult to truly believe/know God. "2 Chronicles 20:20 ... ; Believe in the LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper.

You can't say you truly love God without first loving your neighbor you can see everyday.

AdeniyiA:
@SIR KOBOJUNKIE
This phrase "... IN OBEDIENCE TO GOD'S COMMANDMENTS...", always appear in your Write up and I'd love you to expatiate from your perspective, how for example TB JOSHUA is doing things against God's commands.

Expatiate?

John 14 vs 23-24 (ERV)
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23. Jesus answered, “All who love me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them. My Father and I will come to them and live with them.
24. But anyone who does not love me does not obey my teaching. This teaching that you hear is not really mine. It is from my Father who sent me.

That is what it means to obey God's commandments

AdeniyiA:
From your comments I could deduce that even if you were alive during the time of Jesus, you wouldn't believe him nevertheless. As you said you do not believe in any MOG... by this it'd be extremely difficult to truly believe/know God. "2 Chronicles 20:20 ... ; Believe in the LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper.

You can't say you truly love God without first loving your neighbor you can see everyday.

So I can obey Jesus Christ's teaching/commandments without loving my neighbor(a part of His teachings/commandments)? I suggest that rather than dabbling, you state exa tly what it is you want to.

Pls let's watch this and give Glory to God Almighty, this should be the role of Christians in a world that cares less...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJOizofeM9c



OLAADEGBU

KOBOJUNKIE

OLAADEGBU:
Where did I say my Pastor Kumuyi said so? You are always proving to be the numero uno liar on this forum and this says much about your organisation which calls itself the only prophet of God.

I just pity your condition and how stupidity is finishing you slowly!

Why not ask for spiritual insight from Kumuyi before speaking against another man who claims to be a man of God and performing signs that you've always been arguing for?

Jehovah's Witnesses Organization don't support miraculous works now you say they're a cult, now TB Joshua is performing miraculous works you're still complaining, what exactly do you want gangan?

AdeniyiA:
Pls let's watch this and give Glory to God Almighty, this should be the role of Christians in a world that cares less...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJOizofeM9c



OLAADEGBU

KOBOJUNKIE

Why do you want me to watch a demonic programme that you use to cast spells on people? Just as CNN is used in brainwashing their watchers into believing their useless propaganda also TB Joshua is using Emmanuel TV to hoodwink the gullible reprobates into believing his lies from the pit of hell.

Maximus69:
I just pity your condition and how stupidity is finishing you slowly!

You need to tell that to the man in the nearest mirror to you.

Maximus69:
Why not ask for spiritual insight from Kumuyi before speaking against another man who claims to be a man of God and performing signs that you've always been arguing for?

You are well known for bearing false witnesses.

(i) You beared false witness against Pastor W.F. Kumuyi of being excommunicated from your society.
(ii) You bore false witness against President J. Trump for saying that he is better than Jesus Christ.
(iii) You also bore false witness against your own organisation by saying that they are not a charity organisation.
(iv) Your organisation bears false witness against Jesus Christ by saying that He is angel Michael.
(v) Your organisation bears false witness against the Holy Scriptures by saying that it is the only true prophet of God.
(vi) Your organisation bore false witness by giving dates of the Lord's second coming.

With the above false witness that you and your organisation have bore you are well qualified to be called the false Jehovah witnesses.

Maximus69:
Jehovah's Witnesses Organization don't support miraculous works now you say they're a cult, now TB Joshua is performing miraculous works you're still complaining, what exactly do you want gangan?

There are two ways of discerning false prophets and they are:

(i) When their prophecies does not come to pass
(ii) When they don't only know the difference between false and genuine miraculous works of God but they abandon the miraculous works of God altogether.

You have been brainwashed into believing a lie from the father of lies and are being used to propagate these lies and half truths to the damnation of your souls.

Your only way of escape is to get into the narrow way by repenting from your sins and believing on the Lord Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour. Allow the blood of Jesus to cleanse you from all the lies the devil has brainwashed you with so that you will be able to come to the knowledge of truth.

Maximus69 You also lied by saying Pastor Kumuyi taught me to attack TB Joshua.

OLAADEGBU:
If prophecies are your yardstick for making him a prophet then he has failed because he got many of them wrong. For instance, he got the winner of the 2016 America's election wrong.

What doctrines does he preach that will allow for images like the one below to make him a prophet of God?

Does TB Joshua teach that the allah of the Qu'ran the same as the God of the Bible?

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12147476_tbjoshuaallah_jpeg558b3dd010d6badfe9f8ee15acaa656a

What happened to his prophecy of COVID-19 disappearing by March 27?

AdeniyiA:
Who knows this Apostle? , never heard his name or the works of his faith he professes. We all can see that of TB JOSHUA, the devil can't fight against himself,because he has come to steal, kill and destroy. If TB JOSHUA is of the devil and he's still prospering for the past 30 years with various degree of trials and persecutions he has received and still standing, then i wish to serve that devil. Those who claim to be true men of God should show me their works too

Are you now willing to repent and trust in Jesus as your Lord and Saviour or you are still insisting on serving that devil?

petra1:
I may not say the picture was photoshoped
. Its most probably true. My take on that picture is that the understanding of the man of God was limited that time. Its about 30 years ago. And secondly we still have many ministers today filled with the holyghost who still believe that jehovah is alah. Even scofied bible says jehovah is allah

Time does not change a false doctrine. I have not seen him deny or correct the error in that picture till the day of his demise.

Maestro21:
LOL.

Same rubbish every day. Same false stories. Keep peddling lies. The more you do it, the more God sends angels to protect the man.

I hear you.

OLAADEGBU:
You need to tell that to the man in the nearest mirror to you.



You are well known for bearing false witnesses.

(i) You beared false witness against Pastor W.F. Kumuyi of being excommunicated from your society.
(ii) You bore false witness against President J. Trump for saying that he is better than Jesus Christ.
(iii) You also bore false witness against your own organisation by saying that they are not a charity organisation.
(iv) Your organisation bears false witness against Jesus Christ by saying that He is angel Michael.
(v) Your organisation bears false witness against the Holy Scriptures by saying that it is the only true prophet of God.
(vi) Your organisation bore false witness by giving dates of the Lord's second coming.

With the above false witness that you and your organisation have bore you are well qualified to be called the false Jehovah witnesses.



There are two ways of discerning false prophets and they are:

(i) When their prophecies does not come to pass
(ii) When they don't only know the difference between false and genuine miraculous works of God but they abandon the miraculous works of God altogether.

You have been brainwashed into believing a lie from the father of lies and are being used to propagate these lies and half truths to the damnation of your souls.

Your only way of escape is to get into the narrow way by repenting from your sins and believing on the Lord Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour. Allow the blood of Jesus to cleanse you from all the lies the devil has brainwashed you with so that you will be able to come to the knowledge of truth.

This post I made in response to Maximus69 must have been responsible for the deleting of his moniker. The post exposed the catalogue of lies he's been telling.

OLAADEGBU:
You need to tell that to the man in the nearest mirror to you.
You are well known for bearing false witnesses.

(i) You beared false witness against Pastor W.F. Kumuyi of being excommunicated from your society.
(ii) You bore false witness against President J. Trump for saying that he is better than Jesus Christ.
(iii) You also bore false witness against your own organisation by saying that they are not a charity organisation.

In the United Kingdom and elsewhere,JWs have a Registered Charity for humanitarian aid in times of crisis/natural disasters, to fulfill the requirements of the law of Ceasar.
However,JWs is NOT primarily a charitable organization like the Red Cross & Red Crescent.
Do you get it?

Bearing witness about JEHOVAH and his Son is our main focus. Isaiah 43:10,21, Matt 24:14 & Acts 1:8 (ASV).
When & where did he make that claim about Trump & Jesus Christ?

OLAADEGBU:
(iv) Your organisation bears false witness against Jesus Christ by saying that He is angel Michael.

(v) Your organisation bears false witness against the Holy Scriptures by saying that it is the only true prophet of God.

Genesis 16:7 Amplified Bible & Geneva Bible.
Jesus Christ is the angel of JEHOVAH.
Daniel 10:13 & 12:1 Jesus is archangel Michael. Geneva Bible.
1 Thessalonians 4:16 & John 5:28, Jesus Christ is the archangel Michael who raises the dead.

Your dlc members Also make similar claims.
Otherwise,they would have gone to join RCCG & other 3 Trinitarian devotees churches.

OLAADEGBU:
(vi) Your organisation bore false witness by giving dates of the Lord's second coming.

With the above false witness that you and your organisation have bore you are well qualified to be called the false Jehovah witnesses.

1 Samuel 16:6, prophet Samuel bore false witness.
1 chronicles 17:1-4, prophet Nathan bore FALSE witness.
Deal with it.

Luke 19:11, Luke 24:19-20, the disciples bore false witness.
Matthew 26 :31-35, the same disciples bore false witness to Jesus.
[b]For your mind,they are false JEHOVAH's witnesses.
Oga, face the truth.[/b]

OLAADEGBU:
There are two ways of discerning false prophets and they are:

(i) When their prophecies does not come to pass
(ii) When they don't only know the difference between false and genuine miraculous works of God but they abandon the miraculous works of God altogether.

[s]You have been brainwashed into believing a lie from the father of lies and are being used to propagate these lies and half truths to the damnation of your souls.

Your only way of escape is to get into the narrow way by repenting from your sins and believing on the Lord Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour. Allow the blood of Jesus to cleanse you from all the lies the devil has brainwashed you with so that you will be able to come to the knowledge of truth[/s].

Are you kidding me?
The same manner your Pastorpreneur predicted prosperity in 2020, peace and breakthroughs rather than 2020 Coronavirus lockdown.

OLAADEGBU:
This post I made in response to Maximus69 must have been responsible for the deleting of his moniker. The post exposed the catalogue of lies he's been telling.

You're mistaken my friend, Kumuyi is a thief!

He used the artistic impressions on our publications to deceive your parents in the 80s and told them not to listen to JWs so they won't discover that he's been using photocopies of their artworks and changing the message in the publications.

Well i deleted that account and the email is used to open it due to incessant disturbance from some Nairalanders sending emails to beg for money. Now i only respond to my JW brothers if anyone send me a DM!

OLAADEGBU:
Time does not change a false doctrine. I have not seen him deny or correct the error in that picture till the day of his demise.

What about other ministers in several denominations from assemblies to Baptist who believe we are all calling on same even from different religion .

some of us never knew the difference between Jehovah and Allah until we read the book " WHO IS THIS ALLAH"

What about other ministers who never had the privilege to know. would it be right to call them.false as well

OLAADEGBU:
Are you now willing to repent and trust in Jesus as your Lord and Saviour or you are still insisting on serving that devil?

Jesus has remained and shall remain my personal Lord and Savior...I am not worthy to be called a child of God if I can not stand by my words. You're not in anyway different from those hypocrites and pharissees who referred to Jesus as The devil because of what he did... Just because they couldn't understand or do spiritual things, envy set in.
Luke 6:26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.
Luke 11:15-20. But some of them said, He casteth out devils through Beelzebub the chief of the devils. And others, tempting him, sought of him a sign from heaven. But he, knowing their thoughts, said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth. If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because ye say that I cast out devils through Beelzebub. And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your sons cast them out? therefore shall they be your judges. But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.

Janosky:
In the United Kingdom and elsewhere,JWs have a Registered Charity for humanitarian aid in times of crisis/natural disasters, to fulfill the requirements of the law of Ceasar.
However,JWs is NOT primarily a charitable organization like the Red Cross & Red Crescent.
Do you get it?

Bearing witness about JEHOVAH and his Son is our main focus. Isaiah 43:10,21, Matt 24:14 & Acts 1:8 (ASV).
When & where did he make that claim about Trump & Jesus Christ?


Genesis 16:7 Amplified Bible & Geneva Bible.
Jesus Christ is the angel of JEHOVAH.
Daniel 10:13 & 12:1 Jesus is archangel Michael. Geneva Bible.
1 Thessalonians 4:16 & John 5:28, Jesus Christ is the archangel Michael who raises the dead.

Your dlc members Also make similar claims.
Otherwise,they would have gone to join RCCG & other 3 Trinitarian devotees churches.

1 Samuel 16:6, prophet Samuel bore false witness.
1 chronicles 17:1-4, prophet Nathan bore FALSE witness.
Deal with it.

Luke 19:11, Luke 24:19-20, the disciples bore false witness.
Matthew 26 :31-35, the same disciples bore false witness to Jesus.
[b]For your mind,they are false JEHOVAH's witnesses.
Oga, face the truth.[/b]

Are you kidding me?
The same manner your Pastorpreneur predicted prosperity in 2020, peace and breakthroughs rather than 2020 Coronavirus lockdown.

You need to first reconcile your confusion with your partner in crime - Maximus before addressing these allegations.

MaxInDHouse:
You're mistaken my friend, Kumuyi is a thief!

He used the artistic impressions on our publications to deceive your parents in the 80s and told them not to listen to JWs so they won't discover that he's been using photocopies of their artworks and changing the message in the publications.

Well i deleted that account and the email is used to open it due to incessant disturbance from some Nairalanders sending emails to beg for money. Now i only respond to my JW brothers if anyone send me a DM!

This is another false witness/accusation. When will you repent and change your ways? Remember that you are getting closer to the grave everyday.

petra1:
What about other ministers in several denominations from assemblies to Baptist who believe we are all calling on same even from different religion .

some of us never knew the difference between Jehovah and Allah until we read the book " WHO IS THIS ALLAH"

What about other ministers who never had the privilege to know. would it be right to call them.false as well

Any minister who is a novice or ignorant of the foundational doctrines of Christ is not qualified to be a minister of the gospel.

OLAADEGBU:
You need to first reconcile your confusion with your partner in crime - Maximus before addressing these allegations.

Olaadegbu can Continue WAILING with FALSE claims.
[b]Olaadegbu can't refute any of these salient facts listed here which any individual can verify

In the United Kingdom and elsewhere,JWs have a Registered Charity for humanitarian aid in times of crisis/natural disasters, to fulfill the requirements of the law of Ceasar.
However,JWs is NOT primarily a charitable organization like the Red Cross & Red Crescent.
Do you get it?

Bearing witness about JEHOVAH and his Son is our main focus. Isaiah 43:10,21, Matt 24:14 & Acts 1:8 (ASV).
When & where did he make that claim about Trump & Jesus Christ?


Genesis 16:7 Amplified Bible & Geneva Bible.
Jesus Christ is the angel of JEHOVAH.
Daniel 10:13 & 12:1 Jesus is archangel Michael. Geneva Bible.
1 Thessalonians 4:16 & John 5:28, Jesus Christ is the archangel Michael who raises the dead.

Your dlc members Also make similar claims.
Otherwise,they would have gone to join RCCG & other 3 Trinitarian devotees churches.

1 Samuel 16:6, prophet Samuel bore false witness.
1 chronicles 17:1-4, prophet Nathan bore FALSE witness.
Deal with it.

Luke 19:11, Luke 24:19-20, the disciples bore false witness.
Matthew 26 :31-35, the same disciples bore false witness to Jesus.
[b]
For your mind,they are false JEHOVAH's witnesses.
Oga, face the truth.

Are you kidding me?
The same manner your Pastorpreneur predicted prosperity in 2020, peace and breakthroughs rather than 2020 Coronavirus lockdown.