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Re: . by BabaRamota1980: 12:37pm On Aug 20, 2020
Hellraiser77:
[s][/s] Typical Tao11, Irredeemably Fraudulent and myopic grin

I have been waiting patiently for you to come up with one of your twisted narratives cheesy

Same Tao11 that have been holding on and defending the idea that all yorubas dispersed from Ile-ife has turned around to shoot yourself on the foot by Claiming The Original settlers of Ife who were called IGBOS are now a sub-group of Yoruba grin

Tao11 please tell us where this particular Igbo of Yoruba came from and why they were not in Ife cheesy

How did a subgroup of Yoruba emerge and start attacking Ife when all yoruba were still one in IFE according to you? grin grin

Tao11 please have some shame and quietly leave this thread before I bring out my god-hammer and Annihilate your entire existence gringrin
You dont know your own history. The Aros who are also called Igbos said all Igbos came from Congo and they are the real Igbos, all other classes of Igbos are beneath them. So are you from Ife or from Congo?

You were known by a derisive name Ibo, which is a slave stock. All around you, in Efik, in Igalq, in Asaba, in Ikwerre, IBO is a derisive name. True or False? I will bring out the history with time.

Achebe, in late 70s led a drive to change you from Ibo to something other than, because after the war your neighbors werw taunting you. He attached IBO to Yoruba and said you were the original UGBO in Ife, but he coined it as IGBO. This is how you got Igbo. It also set the pace for your writers and historians to begin revising your history and attaching it to Yoruba and Benin at every opportunity. In 2000s Yorubas realized you were doing damage and revising history that hurt us and started pushing back on your attache to Ugbo. In reaction your people started gravitating to the migration theory that you migrated from Israel. Thats how you now have jews among you. Now many of you say you were originaly from Benue confluence. You are homeless! Wherever the wind of history blows there is your home. Congo, Ife, Israel, Benue.

Anyway, listen to Aro give account.

Re: . by BabaRamota1980: 12:45pm On Aug 20, 2020
Hellraiser,
Compare what is said there with what Basden has said so far.

1. Nri is a town
2. The priests of Nri, mburuichi travelled around Ibo country.
3. The priests coronated kings in Ibo.
4. When asked where they came from, the priests pointed East.

Congo is East of Onitsha.
Aro is East of Onitsha.

They never pointed West.
Ife, and Ugbo, is West of Onitsha.

Basden is not lying.

Cc
Tao11
Re: . by Hellraiser77: 12:48pm On Aug 20, 2020
TAO11:
To any Yoruba person here who may seem unclear or confused about any lies coming from these bush meats; please just make sure to type a separate comment or question in that regards (still on this same thread) and quote me via TAO11 or TAO12.

I will make sure to do the needful to shatter the lies from the bush meats on this same thread.

I want to starve a particular bush meat from getting my attention. This particular bush meat seem to still be battling PTSD from the two consecutive night when he was miming Shakespeare and crying foul to Igbo mods alleging that I’m bullying him.

If I do not get any such question or concern regarding their lies, then I take it that such lie has already been identified by all Yorubas here to be a LIE. grin cheesy

Cheers!

cc: LegendHero, MinorityOpinion, BabaRamota1980, googi, gomojam,
Beach!! you dead!! cheesy cheesy
Re: . by Hellraiser77:
[s]
BabaRamota1980:
Hellraiser,
Compare what is said there with what Basden has said so far.

1. Nri is a town
2. The priests of Nri, mburuichi travelled around Ibo country.
3. The priests coronated kings in Ibo.
4. When asked where they came from, the priests pointed East.

Congo is East of Onitsha.
Aro is East of Onitsha.

They never pointed West.
Ife, and Ugbo, is West of Onitsha.

Basden is not lying.

Cc
Tao11
[/s] Babaramota I see you like talking to mecheesy cheesy

I really want to talk you too, but you are not a bright person at all (sorry to say), find a simpler topic aside History, Maybe Bird watching or something
Re: . by TAO11(f): 1:00pm On Aug 20, 2020
BabaRamota1980:
You dont know your own history. The Aros who are also called Igbos said all Igbos came from Congo and they are the real Igbos, all other classes of Igbos are beneath them. So are you from Ife or from Congo?

You were known by a derisive name Ibo, which is a slave stock. All around you, in Efik, in Igalq, in Asaba, in Ikwerre, IBO is a derisive name. True or False? I will bring out the history with time.

Achebe, in late 70s led a drive to change you from Ibo to something other than, because after the war your neighbors werw taunting you. He attached IBO to Yoruba and said you were the original UGBO in Ife, but he coined it as IGBO. This is how you got Igbo. It also set the pace for your writers and historians to begin revising your history and attaching it to Yoruba and Benin at every opportunity. In 2000s Yorubas realized you were doing damage and revising history that hurt us and started pushing back on your attache to Ugbo. In reaction your people started gravitating to the migration theory that you migrated from Israel. Thats how you now have jews among you. Now many of you say you were originaly from Benue confluence. You are homeless! Wherever the wind of history blows there is your home. Congo, Ife, Israel, Benue.

Anyway, listen to Aro give account.
The guy wants to be descended from Ife at all cost. cheesy

How sweet is it to be a Yoruba person!? cheesy

I have a video of when his Eze Nri came to pay homage to his father (the Ooni) in Ife. cheesy
Re: . by Hellraiser77: 1:16pm On Aug 20, 2020
TAO11:
The guy wants to be descended from Ife at all cost. cheesy

How sweet is it to be a Yoruba person!? cheesy

I have a video of when his Eze Nri came to pay homage to his father (the Ooni) in Ife. cheesy
if you just joining us this the video clip of the greatest Yoruba king acknowledging the supremacy of the Igbo tribe and it's language being as old as time itself!! grin grin



Timestamp 3:13 is the bombshell!! grin



https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DUZ8BA4l9oK0&ved=2ahUKEwj_k8_8paTrAhX6RhUIHdKtBMwQwqsBMBF6BAgIEBI&usg=AOvVaw2gfqF3C_KypxV2QZLp3-iU


Cc Tao11 legendhero Babaramota1980 googi AkA MinorityOpinion,come and entertain me by explaining how you are sub-ordinate to something that precceds you, this should be fun cheesy cheesy
Re: . by LegendHero(m): 1:20pm On Aug 20, 2020
TAO11:
To any Yoruba person here who may seem unclear or confused, etc. about any of the lies coming from these bush meats; please just make sure to type a separate comment or question in that regards (still on this same thread) and “Mention” me via TAO11 or TAO12.

I will make sure to do the needful to shatter the lies coming from these bush meats on this same thread.

If I do not get any such question or concern, etc. regarding their lies, then I take it that such particular lie has already been identified by all Yorubas here to be a blatant fatuous LIE. grin cheesy

I want to starve a particular bush meat to death from getting my attention.

This particular bush meat seems to be still battling PTSD from some two consecutive nights ago.

I ”uselessed” him on one of the nights into miming Shakespeare.

I “uselessed” him on the second night into crying foul to Igbo mods alleging that I’m bullying him.

And this particular bush meat is desperate to get back my attention using several provocative tactics. He appear very desperate to get back something he had lost. cheesy

But for me, when I’ve “uselessed” you, I’ve “uselessed” you. I look forward to the next person, I can’t be held back. grin cheesy

Cheers!

cc: LegendHero, MinorityOpinion, BabaRamota1980, googi, gomojam,
TAO TAO the legend!
Re: . by Hellraiser77: 1:22pm On Aug 20, 2020
LegendHero:
TAO TAO the legend!
The cry of the Defeated grin grin

Re: . by LegendHero(m): 1:29pm On Aug 20, 2020
Hellraiser77:
The cry of the Defeated grin grin
Lol.

You’ve been regurgitating same post like a programmed robot.

Few days ago I thought the lowest you could sink is the SM syndrome, but now you’ve been psychologically battered to the extent of behaving like a damaged robot.

My guy, you’ve really seen HELL!

Re: . by Hellraiser77: 1:41pm On Aug 20, 2020
LegendHero:
Lol.

You’ve been regurgitating same post like a programmed robot.

Few days ago I thought the lowest you could sink is the SM syndrome, but now you’ve been psychologically battered to the extent of behaving like a damaged robot.

My guy, you’ve really seen HELL!
Hell is what you chased you away from this thread in the first place grin grin

Re: . by LegendHero(m): 1:49pm On Aug 20, 2020
Hellraiser77:
Hell is what you chased you away from this thread in the first place grin grin
Cry cry cry!

Re: . by BabaRamota1980: 1:52pm On Aug 20, 2020
Hellraiser77:
Hell is what you chased you away from this thread in the first place grin grin
You have been battered so convincingly that you lost your mojo for logical response, you are now posting cartoons to mock your opponents. grin

You and Basden are yet to talk about Nri in its truthful position as a town. You and Basden will also talk about those priests of Nri, the wakabouts that pointed to East as their origin. Then you and Basden will talk about the primitive Ibo.

So please dust yourself up, there are still plenty to discuss ahead. Put cartoon aside for now bro.

I never lived amongst Ibo but Basden did. You will have a conversation with him. Weekend is coming up. I will devote a whole day to host Hellraiser and Basden convo. grin


Cc
Tao11
Legendhero
Re: . by BabaRamota1980: 1:58pm On Aug 20, 2020
Hellraiser77:
[s][/s] Babaramota I see you like talking to mecheesy cheesy

I really want to talk you too, but you are not a bright person at all (sorry to say), find a simpler topic aside History, Maybe Bird watching or something
Me, talk to youhuh You lost your mind. grin

Basden wants to talk to you, not me. Get your head right and start talking back to him.


Cc
Tao11
Legendhero
Re: . by Hellraiser77: 2:18pm On Aug 20, 2020
BabaRamota1980:
You have been battered so convincingly that you lost your mojo for logical response, you are now posting cartoons to mock your opponents. grin

You and Basden are yet to talk about Nri in its truthful position as a town. You and Basden will also talk about those priests of Nri, the wakabouts that pointed to East as their origin. Then you and Basden will talk about the primitive Ibo.

So please dust yourself up, there are still plenty to discuss ahead. Put cartoon aside for now bro.

I never lived amongst Ibo but Basden did. You will have a conversation with him. Weekend is coming up. I will devote a whole day to host Hellraiser and Basden convo. grin


Cc
Tao11
Legendhero
if you just joining us this the video clip of the greatest Yoruba king acknowledging the supremacy of the Igbos and it's language being as old as time itself!! grin



Timestamp 3:13 is the bombshell!! grin



https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DUZ8BA4l9oK0&ved=2ahUKEwj_k8_8paTrAhX6RhUIHdKtBMwQwqsBMBF6BAgIEBI&usg=AOvVaw2gfqF3C_KypxV2QZLp3-iU



cc Tao11 legendhero Babaramota1980 googi AkA MinorityOpinion,come and entertain me by explaining how you are sub-ordinate to something that precceds you, this should be fun

Re: . by Hellraiser77: 2:19pm On Aug 20, 2020
LegendHero:
Cry cry cry!
if you just joining us this the video clip of the greatest Yoruba king acknowledging the supremacy of the Igbos and it's language being as old as time itself!! grin







Timestamp 3:13 is the bombshell!! grin







https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DUZ8BA4l9oK0&ved=2ahUKEwj_k8_8paTrAhX6RhUIHdKtBMwQwqsBMBF6BAgIEBI&usg=AOvVaw2gfqF3C_KypxV2QZLp3-iU







cc Tao11 legendhero Babaramota1980 googi AkA MinorityOpinion,come and entertain me by explaining how you are sub-ordinate to something that precceds you, this should be fun

Re: . by Nobody: 2:54pm On Aug 20, 2020
TAO11:
To any Yoruba person here who may seem unclear or confused, etc. about any of the lies coming from these bush meats; please just make sure to type a separate comment or question in that regards (still on this same thread) and “Mention” me via TAO11 or TAO12.

I will make sure to do the needful to shatter the lies coming from these bush meats on this same thread.

If I do not get any such question or concern, etc. regarding their lies, then I take it that such particular lie has already been identified by all Yorubas here to be a blatant fatuous LIE. grin cheesy

I want to starve a particular bush meat to death from getting my attention.

This particular bush meat seems to be still battling PTSD from some two consecutive nights ago.

I ”uselessed” him on one of the nights into [b]miming Shakespeare.

I “uselessed” him on the second night into crying foul to Igbo mods alleging that I’m bullying him.

And this particular bush meat is desperate to get back my attention using several provocative tactics. He appear very desperate to get back something he had lost. cheesy

But for me, when I’ve “uselessed” you, I’ve “uselessed” you. I look forward to the next person, I can’t be held back. grin cheesy[/b]

Cheers!

cc: LegendHero, MinorityOpinion, BabaRamota1980, googi, gomojam,
I am a living witness to the bolded. In fact, the uselessness pass aluminum condemn grin
Re: . by LegendHero(m): 2:56pm On Aug 20, 2020
BabaRamota1980:
Me, talk to youhuh You lost your mind. grin

Basden wants to talk to you, not me. Get your head right and start talking back to him.


Cc
Tao11
Legendhero
The guy blood pressure is just rising up with the mention of Basden.

I hope he survive the onslaught tho because dead man tell no tales.

If we lose him now, he won’t be able to tell his defeat story to his Ibo folks.

By the way, you taught me something new today Ba Ramo.
Anytime I call them Ibo they get angry and say I should call them the right word “Igbo”. Based on what you said today about Shinua Ashebe and the Ibo (Slavery) tag? I now understand why the Ibos always get angry when I call them that.

Now going forward, I won’t make the mistake of calling them Igbo again coz I like originality and their name is IBO.

Hellraiser77 what do you think?

BabaRamota1980:
You dont know your own history. The Aros who are also called Igbos said all Igbos came from Congo and they are the real Igbos, all other classes of Igbos are beneath them. So are you from Ife or from Congo?

You were known by a derisive name Ibo, which is a slave stock. All around you, in Efik, in Igalq, in Asaba, in Ikwerre, IBO is a derisive name. True or False? I will bring out the history with time.

Achebe, in late 70s led a drive to change you from Ibo to something other than, because after the war your neighbors werw taunting you. He attached IBO to Yoruba and said you were the original UGBO in Ife, but he coined it as IGBO. This is how you got Igbo. It also set the pace for your writers and historians to begin revising your history and attaching it to Yoruba and Benin at every opportunity. In 2000s Yorubas realized you were doing damage and revising history that hurt us and started pushing back on your attache to Ugbo. In reaction your people started gravitating to the migration theory that you migrated from Israel. Thats how you now have jews among you. Now many of you say you were originaly from Benue confluence. You are homeless! Wherever the wind of history blows there is your home. Congo, Ife, Israel, Benue.

Anyway, listen to Aro give account.
Re: . by SaintBeehot(m): 4:29pm On Aug 20, 2020
TAO11:
You didn’t know that you’ve bungled until you were called out, right??

So, if that’s the case then the bolded is unnecessary as you should have expected the calling out to even continue until you do the needful without BUTs or IFs.

Thank God you were called out to have gotten the opportunity to have learnt something.
I guess everything now needs professionalism; even stealing cheesy
Re: . by TAO11(f): 4:39pm On Aug 20, 2020
SaintBeehot:
I guess everything now needs professionalism; even stealing cheesy
Lol.
Re: . by Obalatule: 5:05pm On Aug 20, 2020
TAO11:
The advertisement of ignorance going on here is amazing. grin

“Igbo” means “bush”/“forest” in Yoruba language. I guess your people are now bush-meat right?? Lol.

For the sake of killing this particular ignorance being pumped in here, the Igbo people referred to here are a Yoruba-subgroup still occupying the Ilaje-Ese-Odo area till date.

Their traditional accounts till date still clearly recall their version of the events at Ile-Ife before their emigration.

For example, they have their side of the story to the “Moremi/Igbo” episode and why they’ve refused to honor and deify Moremi.
LMAO....Well Nice try grin
Re: . by Hellraiser77:
I made a promise to bury This Tao11 inside this thread grin grin

After decimating and utterly Annihilating this beach on this thread, He went to die inside Yoruba thread By bidding Nairaland farewell grin Citing "A new phase of life"

You didn't think about new phase of life till you entered Igbo thread and came out battered and bruised, Limped to Yoruba thread to say good bye to your band of Ekuke dogs thinking I won't see it....Lmao I always knew this will happen so I was watching you! grin grin

I forced this beach off Nairaland!!

I hereby claim Tao11 as my trophy!!!

Screenshot of his farewell speech below!!! LMAO!! grin grin

Cc Ofoigbo gwafaeziokwu letu Ayoola27

Re: . by Hellraiser77: 6:10pm On Aug 20, 2020
My name is Hellraiser77

My Given Title is "Ogbu onye mgbe Ndu N'ato ya Uto" (the one that snatches life when it's sweetest)

Re: . by Obalatule: 6:13pm On Aug 20, 2020
Hellraiser77:
I made a promise to bury This Tao11 inside this thread grin grin

After decimating and utterly Annihilating this beach on this thread, He went to die inside Yoruba thread By bidding Nairaland farewell grin Citing A new phase of life"

I forced this beach of Nairaland!!

I hereby claim Tao11 as my trophy!!!

Screenshot of his farewell speech below!!! LMAO!! grin grin

Cc Ofoigbo gwafaeziokwu letu
looooll!! Bros you have no chills grin

How can you follow and torment someone like this?
Re: . by BabaRamota1980: 6:28pm On Aug 20, 2020
Hellraiser77:
I made a promise to bury This Tao11 inside this thread grin grin

After decimating and utterly Annihilating this beach on this thread, He went to die inside Yoruba thread By bidding Nairaland farewell grin Citing A new phase of life"

I forced this beach off Nairaland!!

I hereby claim Tao11 as my trophy!!!

Screenshot of his farewell speech below!!! LMAO!! grin grin

Cc Ofoigbo gwafaeziokwu letu Ayoola27
So Tao should put her life progress at standstill for sake of a thread? How does that sound to you?

Person said she has things to do and you are beating a hollow chest, calling yourself a hellraiser. You are hellraiser but your region is in ruins, have you raised hell with those pulling your society back into ignomy? Hellraiser online but weak wailer on street.

Anyway, i want you to raise hell with Basden on Saturday. All day long. No excuse. Make sure to show up.

Saturday
Basden vs Hellraiser
Re: . by BabaRamota1980: 7:01pm On Aug 20, 2020
LegendHero:
The guy blood pressure is just rising up with the mention of Basden.

I hope he survive the onslaught tho because dead man tell no tales.

If we lose him now, he won’t be able to tell his defeat story to his Ibo folks.

By the way, you taught me something new today Ba Ramo.
Anytime I call them Ibo they get angry and say I should call them the right word “Igbo”. Based on what you said today about Shinua Ashebe and the Ibo (Slavery) tag? I now understand why the Ibos always get angry when I call them that.

Now going forward, I won’t make the mistake of calling them Igbo again coz I like originality and their name is IBO.

Hellraiser77 what do you think?
Yes sir! Basden even said in Asaba, which they now call Anioma, the people look down on anyone across the river as subhuman. They say they are from Benin. In Ikwerre, those people refuse till date to see themselves as Ibo, they claim Benin. Ijaw distance from Ibo, Ikwerre distance from Ibo, Anioma distance from Ibo, Igala distance from them, Efik distance from them, Ibibio and Anang, all distance from them. Same with Kalabari and Ogoni.

Who really wants Ibo? None.
At every turn Ibo is associating and attaching itself to Yoruba, to Benin, to Igala, to Anioma, to Ikwerre, to Ijaw, infact, if you mention SE without adding SS join they get mad and come after you. Attache by force.

No worries. Basden will draw the line soon and tell everybody where his father's house is.

Im going to empower the SS people and show how primitive Ibo is.

Do you know that Efik is more civilized than Ibo? Na Lugarf fvk people up and put Efik and Kalabari under Ibo in old Eastern region. Ibo should have been under Efik.

Basden got the code. No worries.
Re: . by Hellraiser77:
[s]
BabaRamota1980:
Yes sir! Basden even said in Asaba, which they now call Anioma, the people look down on anyone across the river as subhuman. They say they are from Benin. In Ikwerre, those people refuse till date to see themselves as Ibo, they claim Benin. Ijaw distance from Ibo, Ikwerre distance from Ibo, Anioma distance from Ibo, Igala distance from them, Efik distance from them, Ibibio and Anang, all distance from them. Same with Kalabari and Ogoni.

Who really wants Ibo? None.
At every turn Ibo is associating and attaching itself to Yoruba, to Benin, to Igala, to Anioma, to Ikwerre, to Ijaw, infact, if you mention SE without adding SS join they get mad and come after you. Attache by force.

No worries. Basden will draw the line soon and tell everybody where his father's house is.

Im going to empower the SS people and show how primitive Ibo is.

Do you know that Efik is more civilized than Ibo? Na Lugarf fvk people up and put Efik and Kalabari under Ibo in old Eastern region. Ibo should have been under Efik.

Basden got the code. No worries.
[/s] Babaramota engaging you in any form of Discuss is Akin to discussing with a 3 year old kid cry

You are not logicaly sound.

Your grammar is trash.

You easily forget the topic of your own discussion.

IGBOs are not mates with yoruba in any aspect undecided

Please go and play with this toy I got you grin grin

Re: . by gwafaeziokwu: 7:37pm On Aug 20, 2020
Hellraiser77:
I made a promise to bury This Tao11 inside this thread grin grin

After decimating and utterly Annihilating this beach on this thread, He went to die inside Yoruba thread By bidding Nairaland farewell grin Citing A new phase of life"

I forced this beach off Nairaland!!

I hereby claim Tao11 as my trophy!!!

Screenshot of his farewell speech below!!! LMAO!! grin grin

Cc Ofoigbo gwafaeziokwu letu Ayoola27
shocked shocked shocked shocked

Whaaaaaaatttttttttt

Hellraiser77 haba na. I told you to take it easy. Small small you no gree.

Now you have lost your love forever. grin grin

To all other wannabe historians on Nairaland, steer clear of Igbo threads if you do not want to go on early retirement like your madam abi oga. grin grin
Re: . by gwafaeziokwu: 7:42pm On Aug 20, 2020
Hellraiser77:
[s][/s] Babaramota engaging you in any form of Discuss is Akin to discussing with a 3 year old kid cry

You are not logicaly sound.

Your grammar is trash.

You easily forget the topic of your own discussion.

Please go and play with this toy I got you grin grin

IGBOs are not mates with yeroba in any aspect!! undecided
That one seriously want to help Tao, but the discussion is way above his pay grade. grin

The intelligent ones simply disappeared and only showed face probably after reading the "You guys abandoned me" farewell speech. cheesy

Hellraiser77 ,the annihilator!
Re: . by Hellraiser77:
gwafaeziokwu:
That one seriously want to help Tao, but the discussion is way above his pay grade. grin

The intelligent ones simply disappeared and only showed face probably after reading the "You guys abandoned me" farewell speech. cheesy

Hellraiser77 ,the annihilator!
grin grin
This people don't want to learn real history they just want to pick out bits and pieces of history that favour their false narrative to massage their egos and feel like something gringrin

All Empty barrels!! cheesy
Re: . by ayoola27: 10:16pm On Aug 20, 2020
Hellraiser77:
I made a promise to bury This Tao11 inside this thread grin grin

After decimating and utterly Annihilating this beach on this thread, He went to die inside Yoruba thread By bidding Nairaland farewell grin Citing "A new phase of life"

You didn't think about new phase of life till you entered Igbo thread and came out battered and bruised, Limped to Yoruba thread to say good bye to your band of Ekuke dogs thinking I won't see it....Lmao I always knew this will happen so I was watching you! grin grin

I forced this beach off Nairaland!!

I hereby claim Tao11 as my trophy!!!

Screenshot of his farewell speech below!!! LMAO!! grin grin

Cc Ofoigbo gwafaeziokwu letu Ayoola27
U nor see say her footsoldiers don dey defend am
.. the mumu dey talk of life progress grin
Person spend all him life resources Jus to look for loopholes for another man story... now the thing don affect am ..she come want make we do send off party for am

lmao grin grin...
Re: . by Hellraiser77: 10:19pm On Aug 20, 2020
ayoola27:
U nor see say her footsoldiers don dey defend am
.. the mumu dey talk of life progress grin
Person spend all him life resources Jus to look for loopholes for another man story... now the thing don affect am ..she come want make we do send off party for am

lmao grin grin...
She run like bingo dog go deactivate account grin grin
Re: . by ayoola27: 10:22pm On Aug 20, 2020
Hellraiser77:
She run like bingo dog go deactivate account grin grin
SHE DON DEACTIVATEhuhhuh

She don tire to dey lie and twist words everytime...if na me sef .I go tire grin
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