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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 5:49pm On Aug 24, 2020
shadeze:

His alternative was presented to the Congress,they refused to pass it so he did what he could through executive orders, they are still in courts battling it out.
Lol. For a good reason Not only mcCain(R) voted against it, Susan(R) and Lisa(R) voted against it too..
To simply put it, they can't find an alternative. Dumbass party.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 5:49pm On Aug 24, 2020
feedthenation:


I remembered months ago, when some Trump supporters claimed here that Twitter will go down when it banned a post by Trump

They even boasted Trump will create a bigger, better alternative to Twitter, the world is still waiting for that alternative and Twitter is still going strong
Lying is their forte. Bunch of whiners and losers grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by shadeze: 5:50pm On Aug 24, 2020
salford1:

Lindsey is a man of zero principle just like Trump (according to Trump's sister)
What did Obama's brother say about Obama?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 5:52pm On Aug 24, 2020
shadeze:

What did Obama's brother say about Obama?
Which of the brothers. The one that wants money from him and wants him to feed his family in Kenya?
Or the criminal that got arrested for a fake DUI.?
I'm addition, Obama is not contesting for the presidency.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by shadeze: 5:53pm On Aug 24, 2020
feedthenation:


Please can you provide the 'fantastic alternative' presented to Congress, remember between Jan 2017 and Jan 2019 (for the 1st 2 years of Trump's administration) the Republicans have majority in both Houses, why didn't they repeal Obamacare within 2 years?


3 years in, no sign of Trump’s replacement for Obamacare

https://apnews.com/968422ef1e16470c967bebc394fee331

As a candidate for the White House, Donald Trump repeatedly promised that he would “immediately” replace President Barack Obama’s health care law with a plan of his own that would provide “insurance for everybody.”
Back then, Trump made it sound that his plan — “much less expensive and much better” than the Affordable Care Act — was imminent. And he put drug companies on notice that their pricing power no longer would be “politically protected.”
Nearly three years after taking office, Americans still are waiting for Trump’s big health insurance reveal. Prescription drug prices have edged lower, but with major legislation stuck in Congress it’s unclear if that relief is the start of a trend or merely a blip.

Are you saying you are not aware that the Obamacare repeal and replace bill was voted on in Congress and killed by the RINO John McCain after passing the house?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by shadeze: 5:55pm On Aug 24, 2020
salford1:

Which of the brothers. The one that wants money from him and wants him to feed his family in Kenya?
Or the criminal that got arrested for a fake DUI.?
I'm addition, Obama is not contesting for the presidency.
What did Obama's brother say about him? Is what I asked you but you can't answer because you know it's not good so you start telling manufactured fake news stories
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 5:56pm On Aug 24, 2020
shadeze:

What did Obama's brother say about him? Is what I asked you but you can't answer because you know it's not good so you start telling manufactured fake news stories
I don't care what the brother says about him. Obama is not Kenyan. He is American and was elected as the president of the USA.

How about you the genius tell us what he said about Obama cheesy

Even though you don't seem very bright.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 5:57pm On Aug 24, 2020
shadeze:


Was I arguing that she is anti Trump or pro Trump? You said she said something she didn't say, you lied and that's what I opposed. This your post saying she said what she never said. I made it bold for you

I will say it again.
She asked for emancipation from her parents especially her mom(very true)
And that is not fake news I included parents which includes her mom.
So if you that is what you can interpret that is your problem and it is not fake news.
Next time put your brain to use and learn to comprehend well.
I am not a fake news peddler like you so leave my mention and scram out.
Keep looking for holes where there are none.I stand by what I said and it is not fake news I am not the one responsible for what you choose to comprehend.
Now bye bye

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by shadeze: 6:01pm On Aug 24, 2020
salford1:

Lol. For a good reason Not only mcCain(R) voted against it, Susan(R) and Lisa(R) voted against it too..
To simply put it, they can't find an alternative. Dumbass party.
At least you accepted that an alternative (The AHCA) was presented and voted on by the Congress only to be killed by RINOS in the senate after it passed the house of rep. There is nothing Trump can do about that since it's a democracy not a dictatorship so he has done what he can about Obamacare through executive orders. So stop asking me what Trump's alternative to Obamacare is, it's the AHCA but he can't impose it on the country like a dictator after Congress refused to pass it.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by shadeze: 6:04pm On Aug 24, 2020
AmazonTopaz:

I will say it again.
She asked for emancipation from her parents especially her mom(very true)
And that is not fake news I included parents which includes her mom.
So if you that is what you can interpret that is your problem and it is not fake news.
Next time put your brain to use and learn to comprehend well.
I am not a fake news peddler like you so leave my mention and scram out.
Keep looking for holes where there are none.I stand by what I said and it is not fake news I am not the one responsible for what you choose to comprehend.
Now bye bye
All these long story you are telling is like the confused stories of little kids when they are caught with their hand in the cookie jar. The evidence is there that you made up something that wasn't said. Saying you stand by it doesn't make it to be true, it's still lies and fake news.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by shadeze: 6:06pm On Aug 24, 2020
salford1:

I don't care what the brother says about him. Obama is not Kenyan. He is American and was elected as the president of the USA.

How about you the genius tell us what he said about Obama cheesy

Even though you don't seem very bright.
Malik Obama is an American and he wasn't criticising Obama for things happening in Kenya, he was criticising him for his foolish policies in America. And you're pulling out your typical liberal script of personal attacks when you can't win an argument. Sorry, my being bright is not dependent on what you think, I could also say you are not bright for not agreeing with my point of view but of what use or importance will that be to what we are arguing about?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 6:10pm On Aug 24, 2020
shadeze:

All these long story you are telling is like the confused stories of little kids when they are caught with their hand in the cookie jar. The evidence is there that you made up something that wasn't said. Saying you stand by it doesn't make it to be true, it's still lies and fake news.
Nope It is true and very factual.
No lies detected or found in that post.
However your level of comprehension was found faulty go and work on it.
I did not lie or peddle fake news.
It was the pure truth smiley

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by shadeze: 6:12pm On Aug 24, 2020
AmazonTopaz:

Nope It is true and very factual.
No lies detected or found in that post.
However your level of comprehension was found faulty go and work on it.
I did not lie or peddle fake news.
It was the pure truth smiley
It's lies, you manufactured what wasn't said and that's fake news. Anyone with basic understanding of english language can see that you lied.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by shadeze: 6:15pm On Aug 24, 2020
Amazontopaz, there's no need for all these unnecessary argument, if I am wrong and what you said is true, then show us where Claudia said she wanted emancipation especially from her mom and shut me up for good
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 6:20pm On Aug 24, 2020
shadeze:

At least you accepted that an alternative (The AHCA) was presented and voted on by the Congress only to be killed by RINOS in the senate after it passed the house of rep. There is nothing Trump can do about that since it's a democracy not a dictatorship so he has done what he can about Obamacare through executive orders. So stop asking me what Trump's alternative to Obamacare is, it's the AHCA but he can't impose it on the country like a dictator after Congress refused to pass it.
So Susan Collins is a RINo too?

You see why I said you are not the brightest bulb in the shed grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by zendi: 6:21pm On Aug 24, 2020
If the people fleeing from the bedlam and mayhem of Democrat run states and cities are still planning to vote Democrat at the elections, then, please, which word is stronger than Lunacy? How many scars and bruises must a Leftard receive before he becomes wise?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 6:24pm On Aug 24, 2020
shadeze:

Malik Obama is an American and he wasn't criticising Obama for things happening in Kenya, he was criticising him for his foolish policies in America. And you're pulling out your typical liberal script of personal attacks when you can't win an argument. Sorry, my being bright is not dependent on what you think, I could also say you are not bright for not agreeing with my point of view but of what use or importance will that be to what we are arguing about?
Nonsense. You sound like a juvenile.
You want to bring Malik's narrative here. Do you take us for fools grin
I kind of knew where you were going with your Malik drama. It has been trashed on this thread in the past.


Why Malik hates Obama this much...
By Kevine Omollo Saturday, Oct 29th 2016 at 10:32


Share this story:

In his village, not many people understand him. Not even his siblings have his phone contacts

Malik Obama has been hitting the headlines for the wrong reasons, and his self-made battle between him and his family members seems not to be ending.

Marrying underage girls, land tussles with close family members and scathing attacks on his half-brother, US President Barack Obama, and the first family for not allowing him to spend a night at the White House, heated arguments with Mama Sarah Obama on why she gets more media coverage yet he deserves more as the closest in family lineage to Barack, being accused by his daughter of child neglect... that is Malik.

In his village, not many people understand him. Not even his siblings have his phone contacts, with those reached by The Nairobian indicating that they had either deleted or have never bothered to have them, for it has no use to them.

All they say is that Malik’s kids school at Senator Barack Obama Secondary School, formerly Nyang’oma Secondary School, whose fence border’s his father’s rural home in Kogelo.

Family members say Malik is not the sort of person to be taken seriously.

“Malik managed to get two votes in Kogelo when he vied for the Siaya gubernatorial position, seemingly his vote and that of his ballot agent (Malik garnered 2,792 votes). How many will he convince in America to vote for Trump” posed Nicholas Rajula, his cousin.

However, the spat between Malik and President Obama may have started in the early 1990s, but never escalated till Obama became a public figure.

Close family members say President Obama may have avoided altercation with his half-brother and chosen to ‘focus on the antelope and leave the squirrel alone.’

Malik’s attacks on Obama have stung family and Kenyans in general. Recently, he ‘endorsed’ Republican Presidential candidate Donald Trump, against his brother’s preferred candidate Hillary Clinton.

He even attended the United States’ Third Presidential Debate upon invitation by Trump, and is one of the few private citizens who has gone against the traditional ‘secret balloting’ to announce that he will be voting for the Trump presidency.

According to Malik who unsuccessfully vied for the Siaya Gubernatorial position in 2013 as an independent candidate, President Obama did not support him, and: “Why should I support him in politics and he didn’t support me in politics”

And on this decision he noted: “Hillary Clinton is a liar and totally corrupt. What is her Clinton Foundation doing for Kenya if she loves Obama so much Mr Trump is a successful businessman he will make America great again. He is not heartless. I will not be humiliated anymore by anybody.”

“Why did he not support and write a forward for my book about his father Barack Obama Sr Why does he not support my Foundation set up in the name of his father Barack Obama Sr My two children died it was nothing to him. No condolences, nothing!” he said.

Obama’s family however says this is not the first time Malik goes against his own family, having not supported the first black US President in his first political move when he vied for Illinois Senatorial seat in 2004, and that the media has offered him a platform to express his jealousy for an innocent brother.

“Barack Obama is the President of the United States and has bigger things to attend to than engaging in family affairs in public,” said Obama’s uncle, Said.

“Every decision President Obama makes has always been shared with the family. He did so when he was planning to marry Michelle. He did the same when he was running for the Illinois Senate seat, and he did it again when he was going for the presidency,” said Said.

In his book Dreams of My Father, Obama revealed that Malik was his best-man when he married Michelle in 1992, and described a warm relationship between them when Obama was tracing his roots to Kenya in the 80s.

However, in a recent interview with Fox News, Malik accused President Obama of abandoning his family and failing to provide for them.

When contacted by The Nairobian over the beef with his brother, Malik responded that: “My brother Barack Obama is a disappointment. Why did he not come home to Kogelo Why did he not provide for the family when they came to see him in Nairobi They experienced extreme hardship and left immediately after the dinner.”

He added: “Why did he not support Auntie Zeituni in America He claims to be an advocate for illegal immigrants. Why did no member of the family in Kenya attend the 2016 Democratic Convention Why does he not have Auma Obama be Director of the Board of The Barack Obama Foundation in Chicago that’s set up for his presidential library if he loves her so much Why not Mama Sarah Obama his grandmother if he loves her so much”

Obama’s Kogelo family has however distanced themselves from Malik’s sentiments, saying Malik is a bitter man looking for easy opportunities.

A source within the family who requested not to be named in the article said Malik’s close relationship with some countries and individuals, may have spoilt the rosy relationship between him and President Obama.

“When he was seeking a political seat, he used the slogan ‘Obama koni, Obama kocha’ (Obama this side, Obama that side), aiming to ride on Barack’s image. He has met the high and mighty because of the Obama name and a lot of opportunities lie ahead of him if he uses that name well. What is this that he wants Barack to do to him Feed him” he scoffed.

“There is a time Malik took some family members to meet the late Libyan President Muhammar Gaddafi, and the move did not augur well with Barack given that Gaddafi was in bad books with America. During that time, Malik also had friends in the Far East, especially countries linked to terrorism,” said the source.

This move, she said, may have upset Obama and he allegedly advised that Malik dissolves the Barack H. Obama Foundation which Malik used to spearhead his missions.

Rajula described Malik as a man who ‘urinates in the plate which feeds him’.

“Malik should be a very successful man by now, but he suffers from a complex given that Barack who was little known by the time Malik was a graduate, is now the president of the most powerful country,” said Rajula.

According to the family, Malik, having lived in the US, should be aware of the operations in the country, where the Presidency and the family are two distinct entities.


Anyway. Obama is not running for president cool

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by shadeze: 6:25pm On Aug 24, 2020
salford1:

So Susan Collins is a RINo too?

You see why I said you are not the brightest bulb in the shed grin
Susan Collins voted for political reason because her state voters lean towards democrats. I was referring to the other two when I said RINOS. You are also not the brightest bulb in the shed. Susan Collins vote didn't kill the bill, John McCain did
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 6:27pm On Aug 24, 2020
shadeze:

Susan Collins voted for political reason because her state voters lean towards democrats. I was referring to the other two when I said RINOS. You are also not the brightest bulb in the shed. Susan Collins vote didn't kill the bill, John McCain did
cheesy grin grin
This one is not smart at all. He is even worse that Tescoman.
Abeg. Where is Bluebyd and the other worthy debaters. This guy is not worth my time.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by shadeze: 6:31pm On Aug 24, 2020
salford1:

Nonsense. You sound like a juvenile.
You want to bring Malik's narrative here. Do you take us for fools grin
I kind of knew where you were going with your Malik drama. It has been trashed on this thread in the past.




You sound worse than a juvenile, maybe you are really a fool even though I didn't take you for one at first. Who cares what stories some liberal unknown quantity manufactures? It's what you all are known for, lying and manufacturing fake news. Malik Obama who is an American himself criticised Obama for his failed policies in America and his failed character, not about things happening in Kenya.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by shadeze: 6:36pm On Aug 24, 2020
salford1:

cheesy grin grin
This one is not smart at all. He is even worse that Tescoman.
Abeg. Where is Bluebyd and the other worthy debaters. This guy is not worth my time.
The facts I'm dropping are too much for you to bear, you can't keep up with my level of superior knowledge so you are calling for the people you know you can beat grin. You are excused my friend, you have my blessings to go and face the others. I don't even know what made me comment on this thread today, I have been reading all the childish ways you people behave here and I don't want to be dragged into that so goodbye to you all, I'm out of here
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 6:38pm On Aug 24, 2020
shadeze:

The facts I'm dropping are too much for you to bear, you can't keep up with my level of superior knowledge so you are calling for the people you know you can beat grin. You are excused my friend, you have my blessings to go and face the others. I don't even know what made me comment on this thread today, I have been reading all the childish ways you people behave here and I don't want to be dragged into that so goodbye to you all, I'm out of here
I just went through your history and you are another IPOB. Have you prayed for Buhari today?

Stick to naija politics. American or world politics is way above your IQ grin

Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Bye Felicia.
Ps: don't let the door hit you on your way out grin
..

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by shadeze: 6:40pm On Aug 24, 2020
salford1:

I would drag with you.
I just went through your history and you are another IPOB. Have you prayed for Buhari today?
Stick to naija politics. American or world politics are way above your IQ grin
Bye Felicia.
Good riddance to bad rubbish..
So you still have my time after all? You even went to check my post history. So childish! Yes I am a very proud igbo man, an unapologetic critic of the dullard president Buhari, is there any other thing you have to say? One more thing, I don't take orders from nobodies on nairaland, if I choose to continue commenting on American and world politics, there is nothing you can do about that.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 6:51pm On Aug 24, 2020
shadeze:

So you still have my time after all? You even went to check my post history. So childish! Yes I am a very proud igbo man, an unapologetic critic of the dullard president Buhari, is there any other thing you have to say? One more thing, I don't take orders from nobodies on nairaland, if I choose to continue commenting on American and world politics, there is nothing you can do about that.
Eyaa, I must have touched a nerve grin

I check history so as to know whether you or anyone else is worth arguing with. Sorry you are not. Time is too valuable to keep going back and forth with meaningless arguments.

I know it's tough living under your nemesis (Buhari), please take heart. cheesy

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by shadeze: 6:58pm On Aug 24, 2020
salford1:

I must have touched a nerve grin

I check history so as to know whether you or anyone else is worth arguing with. Sorry you are not. Time is too valuable to keep going back and forth with meaningless arguments.

I know it's tough living under your nemesis (Buhari), please take heart. cheesy
I didn't check your own because you are not worth stressing over, You are also not
worth arguing with so I agree with you that time is too valuable keep going back and forth with meaningless argument and that's why I supported your move to argue with others. As for touching a nerve, I lol grin. Of what importance are you to me that I should be unnerved by anything you have to say?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 6:59pm On Aug 24, 2020
shadeze:

I didn't check your own because you are not worth stressing over, You are also not
worth arguing with so I agree with you that time is too valuable keep going back and forth with meaningless argument and that's why I supported your move to argue with others. As for touching a nerve, I lol grin.
Of what importance are you to me that I should be unnerved by anything you have to say?
Who cares whether you check or not cheesy
Go and pray for Buhari. He is your president for the next couple of years. Then Tinubu would take over after. You have just begun your wailing grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 7:04pm On Aug 24, 2020
And by the way. Trump is not giving you Biafra grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by shadeze: 7:06pm On Aug 24, 2020
salford1:

Who cares whether you check or not cheesy
Go and pray for Buhari. He is your president for the next couple of years. Then Tinubu would take over after. You have just begun your wailing grin
You know I couldn't care less about you either, Buhari is not my nemesis, he is just a president whose policies I don't agree with, he is isn't the first and he won't be the last. I will still be hale and hearty after he is done and someone else steps in. Same way some people in the US opposed Obama and others are opposing Trump now. I know it's too much for children like you to understand, but it's not a do or die affair, whoever the president is, we will either support or oppose them but there is much more to life than all that. Live goes on and we will keep enjoying it irrespective of who is the president
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 7:07pm On Aug 24, 2020
shadeze:

You know I couldn't care less about you either, Buhari is not my nemesis, he is just a president whose policies I don't agree with, he is isn't the first and he won't be the last. I will still be hale and hearty after he is done and someone else steps in. Same way some people in the US opposed Obama and others are opposing Trump now. I know it's too much for you to understand, but it's not a do or die affair, whoever the president is, we will either support or oppose them but there is much more to life than all that. Live goes on and we will keep enjoying it irrespective of who is the president
It seems like a do or die affair to you do tongue
You are butt hurt on his re-election.

Just like Nigeria, US is also in a mess at the moment.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by shadeze: 7:11pm On Aug 24, 2020
salford1:

It seems like a do or die affair to you do tongue
It's not, I don't split my head everyday about Buhari on nairaland like you do about Trump. I don't think I remember the last time I even commented on anything about Buhari, it might be since last year. I don't even come on nairaland every time like you people do. There's much more real things happening in life than these things we do nairaland
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 7:12pm On Aug 24, 2020
shadeze:

It's not, I don't split my head everyday about Buhari on nairaland like you do about Trump. I don't think I remember the last time I even commented on anything about Buhari, it might be since last year. I don't even come on nairaland every time like you people do. There's much more real things happening in life than these things we do nairaland
The post I just screen shot was when (couple of days ago)? Don't be lying to me now.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by shadeze: 7:13pm On Aug 24, 2020
salford1:

It seems like a do or die affair to you do tongue
You are butt hurt on his re-election.

Just like Nigeria, US is also in a mess at the moment.
Are you in the US? I am in Nigeria and I criticise my president because I don't agree with the way he is running the country. That doesn't mean my life revolves around what Buhari does or doesn't do.

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