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Why can't a reverend father give marital advice. Did they not live with their parents before they became priests? During apostolic work they leave in people's houses too. Can't they learn from other people's marriages too? Its not until you are married before you can give marital advice. It all depends on the people they are giving advice. If they accept and want to put it to practice, better for them. I have lived with diffent families and have learnt somethings too. Even I have given advice to a couple of couples before and they appreciated it because they actually used it and it worked for them. Happy Sunday.

Kiddo01:
lol, books and any publication can't help, I've seen a book written on how to be rich and the author is looking for sponsorship

Lolz

The Catholic Reverend Father is highly qualified to give marriage counsel.
1 The Reverend Father is highly and truly learned to counsel MAN on all issues. They are the first truly LEARNED MEN, having been tutored in all sorts, from theology, philosophy, law and others. Please note that it is in Nigeria that Lawyers call themselves LEARNED as if it is exclusive to them. The next group of learned men are Doctors and the last are the Lawyers.
2 The Catholic Church is an old institution and has an array of precedents to fall on. Google PRECEDENTS in Law to be on the same page if you did not know its meaning in law before now. I can quickly explain. Take the story of two women in the Bible that appeared before the wise King Solomon and how Solomon discovered the actual Mother of the Child and set a world class PRECEDENT. It means that if you are confronted with similar scenario, all you need is just apply the wisdom of Solomon and get a sweet result. Note: you do not have to be a King to apply same wisdom to same scenario. It means that the Catholic Reverend father is armed with millions of precedents and does not need to be married before applying time tested precedents that worked. Judges use that in our courts and same in all of Commonwealth Countries.
To be qualified as a Catholic priest is not a joke o. Please do not confuse the Catholic Reverend father that spent minimum of eighteen years training to be ordained a priest with your roadside Pastor who is a pastor because he calls himself Pastor or claims that God called him.

[s][quote author= post=93380419]Talking from experience about one of us @[b][/b] that is into Marriage counseling,
This is what she has to contribute to the topic.....

These are some of the advantages of Marriage counseling...
It helps build a solid, biblical foundation for marriage.
A lot of time is spent in Scripture looking at how biblical ideas apply to marriage.

It helps couples begin a dialogue.
Topics like communication, finances, sex and parenting need to be discussed before marriage.

It points out areas of concern in the relationship. No relationship is perfect.
Potential problems, conflict and struggles should be addressed.It preserves couples from temptation. 

Getting engaged can result in couples rationalizing premarital sex.
Premarital sex and other temptations need to be discussed.It prepares couples for the marriage, and not just the wedding day.
Couples can have a tendency to focus on the wedding day and not on the marriage.

An important part of premarital counseling is getting the couple to have serious conversations about their upcoming marriage.
Marriages are filled with common problems that most couples experience, and each couple has certain strengths and weaknesses that require a certain approach.

Premarital counseling explores each person’s faith and history.
It helps the couple examine personal convictions, expectations for their future and responsibilities they will have.
More than anything, premarital counseling aims to produce a marriage that is biblical and God-honoring.


This is our contribution to the topic,
About Reverend Fathers Qualification,
We leave other members to Comment on that!

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Marital crisis and not premarital counseling. Use your head for once and stop typing gibberish

I believe if you seek counseling from a priest, it could mean more than the Priest giving advice based on what the couple have shared. the priest can look at lapses in your spiritual lifes and draw your minds back to biblical texts. some singles can give better marriage advice than someone who's married because they've been with couples who have had it rough. if you're married and you've not experienced it what makes you think your advice will help? and beside what worked for you may not work for the other person.

I believe a Rev. Fr. who took 10 years or more of learning and experience is qualified to give marriage counseling as it's part of what he was trained for. if his counseling is not helpful your friend should bring in parents and pray.

I have seen Rev Fathers who become sympathetic to 'the woman' in a conflict situation. They tend to abandon the husband, who may be the more aggrieved, especially on marital infidelity, and give in to the woman's concocted emotions. They become closer to the woman, leaving the man who is the victim, to suffer emotionally. I have seen this happen to more than a few friends.

This happens because women can be manipulative, and it takes one who has actually lived with them to manage them.

This does not mean that Rev Frs are often not qualified though, but most of the counselling we do in our work, throw this up, so experience in the real sense helps.

Kiddo01:
lol, books and any publication can't help, I've seen a book written on how to be rich and the author is looking for sponsorship

Chai! You no go finish person with laughter

Sanchez01:
The only knowledge he will have in his life is Biblical knowledge which is not explicit enough. As a matter of fact, the ones in the Bible are written by unmarried folks to certain people to admonish.

Almost everyone read books, materials and even attend counselling classes before marriage and the rule do not apply generally in most situations because what works for A might not necessarily work for B.

Theoretical approach to solving marital issues is laughable and unbelievable. A Reverend Father is not all knowing. His knowledge is limited and he has no business with counselling or advising married folks. The same applies to pastors with failed marriages.

So Jesus Christ nd Paul who never got married had no business advising married pple because they have no experience about marriage

CAPSLOCKED:
MANY OF THEM RIGHT FROM TIME KEEP ACTIVE SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS, SOMETIMES WITH MULTIPLE PARTNERS. SO I'M SURE IT'S POSSIBLE TO OBTAIN AN ADVICE OR TWO FROM SOME ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ENGAGE IN HETEROSEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS AND HAVE KIDS INSTEAD OF BEING HOMOSEXUALS LIKE THE REST 40%.

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Yes.

It fits into our narratives. If he can give you some advice on heaven that he has never been to nothing should preclude him from marital advice on marriage that he has never had.

It is all about beliefs and faith. When I have problems with my car I usually talk to a plumber.

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Kiddo01:
I've been thinking about this and so I decided to bring it here.

A friend of mine has been having issues with his wife for some time now. He said that the Parish Priest has advised both of them but without positive result.

But I keep wondering, is it that both parties do not want to settle their differences or is the reverend father actually giving the needed council? Is the reverend father who has not married before qualified to give advice on marital crisis? What do you think

No one needs to be in marriage before giving their counsel. What the Priest needs is thorough and clear understanding of the guiding principles of marriage based on the Bible. He just need to explain that as a Christian the Bible in so so book chapter so so verse so so says husband do this, wife do this. For example, by principle of Jesus teaching, He said we should forgive and tolerate each other, so when the husband is saying she does not do this and that and the wife same thing, the Priest advise will be Jesus said, forgive him/her and tolerate his/her excesses.

So, if the wife and husband has been following the Priest advised based on biblical teaching from the Bible, you will be jealous of them thinking they have made in heaven marriage.

Yes sir. Paul was never married, yet he gave useful counsel in the area of marriage ..

Reverend fathers are also trained as marriage counselors because it entails part of their duty. So, yes! They are qualified to give advice to couples.

Kriss216:
Singles give the best marital advice.

Nonsense. How can u give what you don't have? U think say marriage na Charley boy show? Abeg make fathers and singles go rest. Respectfully though.

A well trained Reverend father can advice couples especially the Parish Priest.
There is so much fuss about efficacy of experience in our society. Experience is good but it is not everything when it comes to marriage counselling. What works for your home may not work for others.

If experience is everything, Nigeria with her arrays of "experienced leaders"
suppose to be the best governed nation in the world

Sanchez01:
I do. I have over 5 commentaries on my study desk as a matter of fact.

1 Corinthians 7:1-2 (NIV)



THE PURPOSE OF MARRIAGE IS NOT TO CURB ADULTERY OR FORNICATION. God wills it for companionship and mutual friendship. This is totally in contrast with what Paul admonished.

According to Paul, as long as you can control your flesh and you are not given to lust, IT IS BETTER NOT TO MARRY. O wrong.

Read God's perspective on marriage and put it up against Paul's. Please use popular commentaries, including Adam Clarke's.

Haba! I think your comments are either erronous or deliberate falsehood.

Look at that same1 Cor 7: 1-2 (NIV) again and tell me where says "marry" in vv1. KJV which I now quote too, just like other versions use similar words "now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman".

Here in 1 Cor 7:1-2 Paul addresses one of the questions written to him by the Corinths, just like 7:25; 8:1; 12;1; 16:1; 16:12. Other versions aside from KJV & NKJV use the words "sexual relations" instead of "touch" and NOT "marry".

Please if you are a Christian always endeavour to read your bible very clearly for better understanding.

Paul only counsels in 1 Cor 7: 7 - 9 to those who cannot contain their flesh to get married. The reason for this is to avoid the sins of fornication and adultery.

Please open your bible to Genesis 1:28 "God blessed them and God said unto them, Be fruitful and multiply, replenish the earth and subdue it: and have dominion, etc..". That's God giving man authority. For man to multiply and fulfil this order, man needs a woman and so you"ll find in Genesis 1:27 "male and female made he them". Also look at Genesis 2: 18 and Genesis 2: 22 - 25. In Gen 2:25 it says "and they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed". The words man and his wife are found there. Marriage was ordained for:

1. Procreation
2. Sexual pleasure of the couple as highlighted by Paul in 1 Cor 7. Not for singles.

If the purpose of marriage is not to curb fornication and adultery, then what is it for?
Paul clearly advises everyone to steer clear of the sins of fornication and adultery by doing the right thing, i.e, marry.

Please read your bible thoroughly. Do not allow yourself to me misled or you mislead other people by the above total falsehood.


Cheers.

deavicky:
imagine, how can teach what u don't know. It just like explaining the toothache to someone who had not experienced it before, no matter what u explain to him, he will never understand.

What about doctors who treat diseases that they haven't had before, will it not make sense that only people who have had the disease should be able to treat the disease?

Like meeting a dentist that had never had a toothache

Your opinion is flawed.

Kiddo01:
I've been thinking about this and so I decided to bring it here.

A friend of mine has been having issues with his wife for some time now. He said that the Parish Priest has advised both of them but without positive result.

But I keep wondering, is it that both parties do not want to settle their differences or is the reverend father actually giving the needed council? Is the reverend father who has not married before qualified to give advice on marital crisis? What do you think

This rhetoric is stale
It's more like asking the following:-

1. Can a male doctor advice on gynaecological issues?
2. Can a female doctor advice on male prostate issues?
3. Can a male midwife take delivery?

The poster may as well ask if only retired mad men can handle psychiatric issue?

The poster may further be reminded that most coaches never played football.

I can go on and on but remember, you can't mock God

Gmajor:
What is the difference between a reverend father and a priest?

A Reverend father is higher in rank than a priest.

Charleys:
A Reverend father is higher in rank than a priest.

Are you a Catholic?

Kiddo01:
I've been thinking about this and so I decided to bring it here.

A friend of mine has been having issues with his wife for some time now. He said that the Parish Priest has advised both of them but without positive result.

But I keep wondering, is it that both parties do not want to settle their differences or is the reverend father actually giving the needed council? Is the reverend father who has not married before qualified to give advice on marital crisis? What do you think

Logically no.

kinkie:
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[quote author= post=93380419]Talking from experience about one of us @[b][/b] that is into Marriage counseling,
This is what she has to contribute to the topic.....

These are some of the advantages of Marriage counseling...
It helps build a solid, biblical foundation for marriage.
A lot of time is spent in Scripture looking at how biblical ideas apply to marriage.

It helps couples begin a dialogue.
Topics like communication, finances, sex and parenting need to be discussed before marriage.

It points out areas of concern in the relationship. No relationship is perfect.
Potential problems, conflict and struggles should be addressed.It preserves couples from temptation. 

Getting engaged can result in couples rationalizing premarital sex.
Premarital sex and other temptations need to be discussed.It prepares couples for the marriage, and not just the wedding day.
Couples can have a tendency to focus on the wedding day and not on the marriage.

An important part of premarital counseling is getting the couple to have serious conversations about their upcoming marriage.
Marriages are filled with common problems that most couples experience, and each couple has certain strengths and weaknesses that require a certain approach.

Premarital counseling explores each person’s faith and history.
It helps the couple examine personal convictions, expectations for their future and responsibilities they will have.
More than anything, premarital counseling aims to produce a marriage that is biblical and God-honoring.


This is our contribution to the topic,
About Reverend Fathers Qualification,
We leave other members to Comment on that!

We Rise![/quote]Always writing long epistle with little or no sense in it

Can a doctor treat a sickness he/she has not experienced? If yes then a priest can perfectly give a marital advice because it’s a course of its own in the seminary and they get experience from other couples.

Is a surgeon who has not suffered an ailment that require surgery qualified to perform a surgery? Yes, because he has read about the treatment for years.

A Reverend father who has done a comprehensive course on marriage counseling and psychology can also give advice on marital problems.

Is a doctor with no HIV good enough to advise aids patients? Can male doctor with no womb for pregnancy deliver a pregnant woman or advise her during pregnancy?
How come men with no vaginas are gynaecologists?

Anyways priests can give advise.

Kiddo01:
I've been thinking about this and so I decided to bring it here.

A friend of mine has been having issues with his wife for some time now. He said that the Parish Priest has advised both of them but without positive result.

But I keep wondering, is it that both parties do not want to settle their differences or is the reverend father actually giving the needed council? Is the reverend father who has not married before qualified to give advice on marital crisis? What do you think

In general, Reverend Fathers have very good interpersonal skills, and are able to advise conflicting couples on ways to improve their relationship through communication and sacrifices for one another.


So yes to your question.

In general, Reverend Fathers have very good interpersonal skills, and are able to advise conflicting couples on ways to improve their relationship through communication and sacrifices for one another.


So yes to your answer.

Any individual that has the presence of holy spirit in him be it married or single can authoritatively give a piece of marital counsel.