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CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by KEVIND: 3:52pm On Aug 30, 2020
CAMA LAW:
FOR THOSE COMPARING THE UK GOVERNMENT WITH NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT
-Pastor Dennis Woruka Jnr
To those of you who think the Government regulates Churches in the UK and as such, the CAMA Bill in Nigeria should stand.
I am a Pastor in the UK. This means I can speak on this issue.
As a Church in the UK, you are seen as a charity. The UK government gives grants to the Church. For example, the government can give you £50k (N30 million Naira) at the end of the year based on how much your Church performed that year.
Because of this, the Government checks your finances to ensure the grants given to you are merited. This is how the UK Government regulates churches.
The CAMA Bill does not make any sense in Nigeria, because the Nigerian Government, to the best of my knowledge, does not give any form of grants to any Church in Nigeria. How do you want to regulate the finances of the Church , to the extent of changing her board, when the Church does not benefit from you, financially.
Therefore, stop comparing the UK Government with Nigeria in relation to this CAMA Bill.
I am not against the government tracking down fraud or any form of money laundering.
Please note:
My Church (Fountain of Souls Ministries Int'l UK) has never collected any form of grant from the UK Government and we do not intend to do so.

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Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by valentineuwakwe(m): 3:59pm On Aug 30, 2020
Always copying the bad side of other countries laws and policies. ...

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Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by ThatFairGuy1: 4:02pm On Aug 30, 2020
Sorry, CAMA is here to stay. Only the replacement of the head should be forward to National Assembly for readjustment

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Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by Nobody: 4:05pm On Aug 30, 2020
KEVIND:
CAMA LAW:
FOR THOSE COMPARING THE UK GOVERNMENT WITH NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT
-Pastor Dennis Woruka Jnr
To those of you who think the Government regulates Churches in the UK and as such, the CAMA Bill in Nigeria should stand.
I am a Pastor in the UK. This means I can speak on this issue.
As a Church in the UK, you are seen as a charity. The UK government gives grants to the Church. For example, the government can give you £50k (N30 million Naira) at the end of the year based on how much your Church performed that year.
Because of this, the Government checks your finances to ensure the grants given to you are merited. This is how the UK Government regulates churches.
The CAMA Bill does not make any sense in Nigeria, because the Nigerian Government, to the best of my knowledge, does not give any form of grants to any Church in Nigeria. How do you want to regulate the finances of the Church , to the extent of changing her board, when the Church does not benefit from you, financially.
Therefore, stop comparing the UK Government with Nigeria in relation to this CAMA Bill.
I am not against the government tracking down fraud or any form of money laundering.
Please note:
My Church (Fountain of Souls Ministries Int'l UK) has never collected any form of grant from the UK Government and we do not intend to do so.
do UK government supervise how u spend your church money ...yes or no

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Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by TheSERAPH: 4:18pm On Aug 30, 2020
CAMA OR NOT. The gate of hell cannot and will never prevail over the church. I bind every spirit of anti-christ in the Nigerian government

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Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by Amotolongbo(f): 4:29pm On Aug 30, 2020
CAMA is our religious leaders Karma

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Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by Nobody: 4:55pm On Aug 30, 2020
Tell them.
Our people have been brainwashed to swallow every demonic policies of Buhari

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Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by favor914: 5:01pm On Aug 30, 2020
TheSERAPH:
CAMA OR NOT. The gate of hell cannot and will never prevail over the church. I bind every spirit of anti-christ in the Nigerian government
The same scripture you are quoting says obey your Government, God in Heaven has put them there.

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Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by favor914: 5:02pm On Aug 30, 2020
EastGold:
Tell them.
Our people have been brainwashed to swallow every demonic policies of Buhari
Zombie was it President Buhari that drafted the amended Companies & Allied Matters Act, or the National Assembly? MuMudey.

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Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by favor914: 5:05pm On Aug 30, 2020
valentineuwakwe:
Always copying the bad side of other countries laws and policies. ...
When America & Britain were begging Nigeria to go easy on Homosexes did we bulge? General Overseers want to run churches like businesses for profit, but don’t want to be regulated like a business?

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Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by SIONKPO1(m): 5:08pm On Aug 30, 2020
favor914:
When America & Britain were begging Nigeria to go easy on Homosexes did we bulge? General Overseers want to run churches like businesses, but don’t want to be regulated like a business?
Go and study and stop spilling trash online
Churches are very Transparent with their finances
Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by favor914: 5:09pm On Aug 30, 2020
SIONKPO1:

Go and study and stop spilling trash online
Churches are very Transparent with their finances
Same thing the Mafia said back in their heydays, where are the churches audited records for the last 3 years for all to view, only criminals or peeps with skeletons in their cupboards have anything to fear.

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Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by SIONKPO1(m): 5:16pm On Aug 30, 2020
favor914:
Same thing the Mafia said back in their heydays, where are the churches audited records for the last 3 years for all to view.
have you studied the CAMA law wholly?
*A section of it gives government the power to appoint anybody into the board of directors of churches,mosques and NGO
///IMAGINE,a situation where a Muslim is appointed into church board or Christians appointed into NSCIA board
FYI,Muslims will revolt, cause they mostly collect millions from Saudi and other Muslim countries for the propagation of Islam in Nigeria
Shame on Osibanjo the fake pastor and fake lawyer
Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by Nobody: 5:20pm On Aug 30, 2020
favor914:
Zombie was it President Buhari that drafted the amended Companies & Allied Matters Act, or the National Assembly? MuMudey.

Just a look at your rashy picture shows how mumu you are.
An executive Bill, signed into law by the president and you are here saying rubbish.

Ọdẹ oshi
Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by favor914: 5:21pm On Aug 30, 2020
SIONKPO1:

have you studied the CAMA law wholly?
*A section of it gives government the power to appoint anybody into the board of directors of churches,mosques and NGO
///IMAGINE,a situation where a Muslim is appointed into church board or Christians appointed into NSCIA board
FYI,Muslims will revolt, cause they mostly collect millions from Saudi and other Muslim countries for the propagation of Islam in Nigeria
Shame on Osibanjo the fake pastor and fake lawyer
What is wrong if a Muslim is on the board of a church? Can’t I put my Muslim Brother as a trustee in my church? Haven’t Christians donated to the building of mosque, ie Okorocha, Orji Kalu?

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Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by favor914: 5:25pm On Aug 30, 2020
EastGold:


Just a look at your rashy picture shows how mumu you are.
An executive Bill, signed into law by the president and you are here saying rubbish.

Ọdẹ oshi
Na true but your Senators & House of Representative members voted in support of the bill? Or was it passed by the President, or only assented to by his Excellency?

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Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by emmykingzy: 5:25pm On Aug 30, 2020
favor914:
The same scripture you are quoting says obey your Government, God in Heaven has put them there.

That same God intervened on behalf of Shadrach, meshack and Abednego including Daniel when the government imposed Draconian and anti God policies in the country.

God will always fight for His people when the Government is impose anti God policies.
Just watch and see.
Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by Tranquill: 5:28pm On Aug 30, 2020
Igbochief001:

do UK government supervise how u spend your church money ...yes or no

If you are collecting money from them, you are obligated to show them your AGM and audit report.

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Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by favor914: 5:28pm On Aug 30, 2020
emmykingzy:


That same God intervened on behalf of Shadrach, meshack and Abednego including Daniel when the government imposed Draconian and anti God policies in the country.

God will always fight for His people when the Government is impose anti God policies.
Just watch and see.
Old Testament, the Jews were been punished for 70 years for their disobedience to Jah, he put Nebuchadnezzar there for that purpose. Jesus Christ said respect authority, if you don’t have respect for your earthly Government, how can you have respect for the Government in Heaven?

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Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by SIONKPO1(m): 5:42pm On Aug 30, 2020
favor914:
What is wrong if a Muslim is on the board of a church? Can’t I put my Muslim Brother as a trustee in my church? Haven’t Christians donated to the building of mosque, ie Okorocha, Orji Kalu?
Lol,abeg go relax
Donating towards church or mosque building doesn't make you board member
abeg go read acts of operating an NGO

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Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by Nobody: 6:02pm On Aug 30, 2020
Tranquill:


If you are collecting money from them, you are obligated to show them your AGM and audit report.
oga answer my question ...don't don't UK damand only how the grant is spent ..or do they ask for now u spend the total money u earn
Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by favor914: 6:16pm On Aug 30, 2020
Igbochief001:

oga answer my question ...don't don't UK damand only how the grant is spent ..or do they ask for now u spend the total money u earn
All monies are scrutinized for Uncle Sam, & Uncle Tom’s sake, believe me the Feds & IRS are watching, you will go to jail in a jiffy, no I beg, or you pay the Government their share + interest.
Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by Nobody: 6:16pm On Aug 30, 2020
favor914:
All monies are scrutinized for Uncle Sam, & Uncle Tom’s sake, believe me the Feds & IRS are watching.
don't mind the pastor that want to come here and say half truth

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Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by Nobody: 6:18pm On Aug 30, 2020
favor914:
Na true but your Senators & House of Representative members voted in support of the bill? Or was it passed by the President, or only assented to by his Excellency?

You don't deserve my conversation. Please get lost
Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by favor914: 6:22pm On Aug 30, 2020
Igbochief001:

don't mind the pastor that want to come here and say half truth
In all honesty all the Government is looking for is their share from the free money the church is receiving, they must pay their own share in taxes, the days of making money in the name of God without accountability is over. Religious institutions will collect 10% of your income in the name of tithes,& other monies pounds, Dollars, in the name of offerings, but don’t want to pay taxes to Big Brother, isn’t that ironic?

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Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by favor914: 6:24pm On Aug 30, 2020
EastGold:


You don't deserve my conversation. Please get lost
And you still they yean?

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Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by osarog: 6:29pm On Aug 30, 2020
Thief.

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Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by Tranquill: 9:24pm On Aug 30, 2020
Igbochief001:

oga answer my question ...don't don't UK damand only how the grant is spent ..or do they ask for now u spend the total money u earn

They ask for how the total money is spent because you are registered as a charity organization and collect money from them.

Those churches not registered nor collect money from them, are not required to show them anything.

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Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by Nobody: 9:26pm On Aug 30, 2020
Tranquill:


They ask for how the total money is spent because you are registered as a charity organization and collect money from them.

Those churches not registered nor collect money from them, are not required to show them anything.
now they want churches to be registered as charity ...so what's your fuss
Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by Zenithpeak(m): 9:37pm On Aug 30, 2020
favor914:
When America & Britain were begging Nigeria to go easy on Homosexes did we bulge? General Overseers want to run churches like businesses for profit, but don’t want to be regulated like a business?


There's no need quoting you based on your comments but your moniker revealed how confused you are. favor419 and a male disguising as a female to package your 419 heritage.
Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by Tranquill: 9:45pm On Aug 30, 2020
Igbochief001:

now they want churches to be registered as charity ...so what's your fuss

Where does it say I've got a fuss? It should be optional to register like in other countries and scrutinizing their financial dealings should be like in other countries too where the government give them money from the charity funds. If you don't give them money then mind your business.

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Re: CAMA LAW:For Those Comparing The Uk Govt With Nigerian Govt by Nobody: 9:49pm On Aug 30, 2020
Tranquill:


Where does it say I've got a fuss? It should be optional to register like in other countries and scrutinizing their financial dealings should be like in other countries too where the government give them money from the charity funds. If you don't give them money then mind your business.
I don't see any reason why church financial dealings should not be submitted to government

absolutely no reason they should be scared

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