those cows that don't know the constitution of the land. fools

LadyExcellency:


Denouncing Islam also attracts death sentence.

Really? Naaa secret cult dem join?

Kubernetes:


sharia penal code was enacted in the year 2000 by the Kano state gvt.
It's state clearly that the offence for blasphemy.Yet the foolish musician went ahead to do what he did.The society cannot reform except with some stringent laws and that's why you hardly hear of any of such offences in the last 20 years.
Let our constitution put a death sentence for corrupt people and see if there will ever be so many corrupt cases the way we are having it now.
Moreover,I don't know why non muslims are interfering in other people's religion.

That law cannot supersede that of the Nigerian constitution. Hope you now know the reason for the interferance

Empiree:
smh. What the heck is wrong with you?. This is state law. Are you here crazy?. This law was there since 1999 during Christian obasanjo regime and recognized by federal govt. No one is fighting for Muhammad. This is state law. Why do you crazy people don't understand shit?. Why do you guys love lawlessness?

But it CAN NEVER SUPERCEDE that of the Nigeria constitution..

Kubernetes:


Nigerian constitution approves the penal shariah code and that's why it's in operation.
Boko Haram infidels are only a faction of misguided elements misinterpreting the Quran in their selfish way who wanna take over the sovereignty of the Nation.And that's why they kill any obstruction that come their way,be it muslims, christians,emir's,clerics, army, police,citizens etc.The Nigerian Army is to defend the Nigerian state.Know that Nigeria practice a secularism at the federal level while states can practice christian law or shariah law.I hope you know law differs in American states too.

Byt the sharia laws can never supercede that of the ,Nigeria constitution

Kubernetes:


sharia penal code was enacted in the year 2000 by the Kano state gvt.
It's state clearly that the offence for blasphemy.Yet the foolish musician went ahead to do what he did.The society cannot reform except with some stringent laws and that's why you hardly hear of any of such offences in the last 20 years.
Let our constitution put a death sentence for corrupt people and see if there will ever be so many corrupt cases the way we are having it now.
Moreover,I don't know why non muslims are interfering in other people's religion.

Excuse to shed blood

Evercurious:


Byt the sharia laws can never supercede that of the ,Nigeria constitution

oh they do... they do which is why you have 5 rape laws in Nigeria - one in the North that appeals to islam, 1 in the FCT that appeals to Islam and others for the rest of Nigeria

https://lawpadi.com/laws-rape-every-nigerian-know/

The Criminal Code – this is applicable in all the Southern States
The Penal Code – this is applicable in all the Northern States
The Criminal Laws of Lagos – this is applicable only in Lagos State
The Violence Against Persons Prohibition Act – this was passed as a law only applicable in the FCT Abuja, however a number of States around the country have now passed their own versions of the Law applicable in the respective States. These States are Anambra, Bauchi, Ekiti, Enugu, Kaduna, and Oyo.
The Child Rights Act – this is only applicable in the States which have domesticated it

WiLdFLame:

Are you mad ?
People like you should be arrested and sent to rehab. You’re a potential terrorist !!!

U idiot, don't quote me if you lack comprehension.

Evercurious:


But it CAN NEVER SUPERCEDE that of the Nigeria constitution..

Well this is a question for the government not me.

Farki:


Nobody is killed for holocaust denial you donkey don't even try to compare the two.

So you have not received sense in everything i said?. Who talks about killing?. I have been talking about validity of the law. I am really disappointed in many of you nigerians. I thought they said you guys are educated?. Many of you that commented on this topic are very unintelligent.

Empiree:
So you have not received sense in everything i said?. Who talks about killing?. I have been talking about validity of the law. I am really disappointed in many of you nigerians. I thought they said you guys are educated?. Many of you that commented on this topic are very unintelligent.

What nonsense validity, was there anything like sharia in the constitution before 1999? Laws only exist when people elect people to create and uphold them, in this case this barbaric and idiotic law is contradicting the constitution and should be scrapped. Are also aware of the concept of jury nullification where a citizen is found to have been guilty yet set free because the law they broke was seen as unjust?

Paul8344:
We are doomed...
Can't we trace our history before the coming of the white men...

The north too carry religious matter for head,

We can they just don't teach it in schools

TheSERAPH:
Many insane people do awful things out of evil religious belief, declaring death on a human that breath and talk like them, using religion as a cover the same way Osama Bin laden did.
Revelation 21:8
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the *murderers* the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars-- they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

you criticise religion and gladly quoted a verse from yours.. first attribute of religion is hypocrisy.

WiLdFLame:

No one is saying don’t respect law
As a matter of fact there should be law and order

What we are saying is death sentence for law such as blasphemy is too or very overboard and inhumane, very devilish. Not in this age Biko

If is it too harsh it doesn't mean the guy will be executed. Honestly, this is a very educated thread. Perhaps you guys should have learned from me a little. I am not a lawyer nor a law student but I discovered many of you people that commented are unintelligent or unaware of how law works. I tried to explain several times but you guys are blinded by hatred. Sorry if the way i sound offends you. I will try to explain how it works one more time.

What you guys witness with respect to blasphemy law in Kano is the same process worldwide. I will use US law as a case study. It is normal for a law to state if someone commits xyz crime, it is in the constitution where it says section xyz is punishable offence by death penalty, 20yrs, 40, 50yrs in prison etc. But it doesnt mean if the person is found guilty he would get actual penalty mentioned in the constitution.

So let me give you example. In US if someone commits 1st degree murder it attracts death sentence. But then they review mental status of the person. If found to be mentally unstable he gets 45 to life in prison which means there is possibility he will get out of prison on probation in some years to come. If he doesn't have mental problem it is death sentence or 30 yrs in prison.

Now, remember there is trial which takes months or years while accused is remanded in prison. After trial, let's say his lawyer really tried a lot, lawyer can get him 15 yrs at sentencing. Final sentence may come 2yrs after initial trial. By the time he is sentenced, judge and jury will deduct time served from his 15 yrs sentence and he has 13 left. Same thing is true of death sentence. If a person is sentenced to death at final trial, he is not killed right away. It takes 20 yrs before actual execution takes place. Within that 20yrs his lawyer will continue to file appeals.. There will be trials and mistrials and finally at final trial he may either be sentenced to death or life in prison. So there is enough time for legal process. It is not about yelling on the internet that solves the problem. It is by working with defence lawyers, govt lawyers, activists and so on. This is the way to help the guy. But many of our NL comments are trying to ridicule the law. That's not gonna work.

Let me give you one more example. In New York around 2013-2015, a guy from india commited a crime. Guess what his crime was?. His crime was something you people in Nigeria easily take for granted and it cost him 10 yrs in prison plus he would lose his green card and get deported after serving prison. This is the law according to constitution . Let me elaborate. According to US constitution, a US citizen that commits crime goes to prison. After serving time he is released and back to community. illegal alien who commits crime serves his time and gets deported. It is crime anyway for being in the country illegally in the first place. Lastly, this is where i am going. Someone who is in USA legally but he is a green card holder or permanent resident, if he commits a crime that attracts 10 yrs or more he will serve 10yrs or more. After he is released, his green card will be revoked and he will be deported. This is the law. But at the same time, govt does bend the rule especially if the accuse shows compassion and feels guilty about his crime. But bottom line is according to the constitution. Anything else is not guaranteed.

So this Indian guy was a green card holder and his crime was simply his words that cost him 10yrs in prison. This is a warning to all of you that condemned blasphemy law. To blaspheme means you say something ungodly in violation of the law. Not that you kill or touch someone. It is just your words. So this indian guy said something to his autistic friend that led to his friend to hang himself. It is just normal jokes btw friends. That was it. He didnt know it is against the law. Now i don't think you have a law like that in nigeria. You people say anything to anyone at anytime without consequences of your words. Anyways, the guy was investigated, arrested, tried in court and was sentenced to 10yrs in prison. He is permanent resident in America. At sentencing, his mother was there. She cried her eyes out. She sought help from activists, legal practitioners, some lawmakers and fellow americans to help her. She didnt go on the internet to talk down the law which many of you guys are doing. How does this help the guy in Kano?. . This woman knows what her son would lose, The guy would serve 10yrs. After 10yrs, he gets to have his green card revoked and then deported. You know how painful this is?.

Many people rallied around her. They called on officials to help her. She actually slapped her son in public while he was handcuffed. She didnt condemn the law was too harsh. She recognized the law is the law. What she needed was to humble herself to get help for her son. So at sentencing, of course many pleads went underground from lawmakers and political activists and when jury got to court, he was sentenced to 15 months. By the time they minus time he was already locked up during trial, he only had a month plus to be free. You see what am talking about?.

So right there in court he was told that if jury had pronounced 10yr jail for him he is finished. So you see what I am talking about now?. This is the same in Kano. The guy was on trial for at least 2 yrs since I heard about his case which means Kano followed legal process. But you citizens on NL are complicating everything by condemning the law. You will just provoke governor to sign death warrant like that. So it doesn't work the way many of you are going about it. It works by appealing the case and getting political figures to plead to the authority. You can not be cursing governor, police, court and lawyers or the law. This is very disrespectful and it doesn't help anyone. Some Igbo people even drew caricature of Kano governor. This was not necessary at all. This is provocation. So death sentence doesn't mean he will be executed. Death sentence is last option. You can't argue with law except through legal process. But many misunderstood me that I wanted the guy dead. What kind of stupidity is that?.So the way to help the guy is follow his appeal. Many of you should respectfully write Kano governor, govt lawyers and garner political support to plead to the governor. This is how it works.

Thanks for reading

Farki:


What nonsense validity, was there anything like sharia in the constitution before 1999? Laws only exist when people elect people to create and uphold them, in this case this barbaric and idiotic law is contradicting the constitution and should be scrapped. Are also aware of the concept of jury nullification where a citizen is found to have been guilty yet set free because the law they broke was seen as unjust?

Go and tell obasanjo. You dont maKE SENSE.

Empiree:
Go and tell obasanjo. You dont maKE SENSE.

You should go and tell Ahmad Sani Yerima, the pedophile. He's the one that sponsored the Sharia bill and fought to get it passed, he also lobbied to keep child marriage legal.

Farki:


You should go and tell Ahmad Sani Yerima, the pedophile. He's the one that sponsored the Sharia bill and fought to get it passed, he also lobbied to keep child marriage legal.

And how does this helps the case of kano guy?. You need to stop your emotional outburst and face the reality. State can make laws. This is not federal but kano state.

I have given example of Florida's "Stand Your Ground Law" which is tantamount to jungle justice. Is that not in conflict with US constitution?. In this kind of law if you argue with CCW and you push or touch him and he feels threatened, he has the right to kill you. This is what the law means. I am trying to educate you now but you are dickhead.

seunlayi:
the North and Muslim fanatics are just the problem with Nigeria

Boko Haram is fighting the state which belongs to both muslims and christians and others

Death Sentence like how.
I usually wonder whether there's another Islam somewhere that's different from the one I'm doing or maybe some people are reading the same Qur'an upside down.

How do you charge someone for blasphemy? So talking trash against a human being is punishable and by death no less.

That's how those morons went to France to execute people because they drew a picture of Muhammad (pbuh). Who the Bleep cares about a drawing of the prophet? Or blasphemy or whatever ridiculousness.

Illiterate people using religion as a shield for stupidity, bloodlust and general bad behavior!

I'm sure the same fools will not mind calling "the holy spirit" a joke. Madness! Pure madness!

If you're a Muslim who supports this kind of nonsense, i just hope it doesn't shock you on the last day when the prophet denounces you and you're made to stand behind whomever it is you're stupidly following.

Legislation in Islam is not meant to be done without common sense. Yes, your brain still needs to function even though you're a Muslim. The rest of us are doing just fine so get off your lazy ass and start thinking. Islam is beautiful... Assuming you're actually practicing Islam, not some concoction of tribalism, hyporeligiosity and general idiocy

Hope they consulted Mohammed before trying to kill someone for blaspheming Mohammed. Anyway, he was also a murderer

Empiree:
I don't want to talk about religion in this thread but you can have these verses.

Leviticus 24:16

"anyone who blasphemes the name of the Lord is to be put to death. The entire assembly must stone them. Whether foreigner or native-born, when they blaspheme the Name they are to be put to death





Luke 12:10

And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but the one who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.



Matthew 12:31-32


Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.



Mark 3:29

But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”—

Your analysis are wrong. Leviticus (your first quote is in the old testament- Jewish law)

All your other quotes talks about holy Spirit/ God. My question is - Is mOHAMMED now same as God Allah or Hopy Spirit? Is Mohammed a God or slave/ servant as all Muslims are? God says he will not forgive sin against holy spirit, but did he put the judgement in the hand of man? No!! Did the bible in those new testament quote tell you to kill for God / Holy spirit? With your quotes, are you now telling me you now believe in the bible?


Same Jewish law that Israel is applying and maiming your terrorist brothers in Palestine - but you complained about Israel and here you are quoting the Old testament Jewish law. I shake my head for your double standard.

If Christians , pagans, atheists, Buddhist and all other religions take laws into their hands as Islamist do, this World would be in flames. Remembere there are more Christians in the World even without counting other religions, but only islamists fight all other religions blindly because one servant/ slave said so- this is no insult cos all Muslims are servants/ slaves- fact Muslims can't deny.

Jesus is the way the truth and life. For a good kive here and therrafter, Accept him today.

NB: No wonder we still have evil people in our midst. . If someone can support this current APC government, there is nothing he cannot support.

Empiree:
And how does this helps the case of kano guy?. You need to stop your emotional outburst and face the reality. State can make laws. This is not federal but kano state.

I have given example of Florida's "Stand Your Ground Law" which is tantamount to jungle justice. Is that not in conflict with US constitution?. In this kind of law if you argue with CCW and you push or touch him and he feels threatened, he has the right to kill you. This is what the law means. I am trying to educate you now but you are dickhead.

If states can make laws then I will make a "Kill all Muslims" law since the constitution doesn't matter and people can be killed for wrongthink. The reality is that this law a the stand your ground law are stupid, you are only telling me that we should accept stupid laws because your religion benefits from keeping everyone scared to criticise it.

Empiree:
And how does this helps the case of kano guy?. You need to stop your emotional outburst and face the reality. State can make laws. This is not federal but kano state.

I have given example of Florida's "Stand Your Ground Law" which is tantamount to jungle justice. Is that not in conflict with US constitution?. In this kind of law if you argue with CCW and you push or touch him and he feels threatened, he has the right to kill you. This is what the law means. I am trying to educate you now but you are dickhead.

I think you will also approve of this stand your ground law if its in force in both Kaduna and Benue? So at least land owners can kill those heardsmen trying to steal their land.

You always quote evils when it suits you. Hell Rufai quoted Jesus impregnating someone and even mentioned Judas in the quote, did heaven fall? Did you ever made comment that he is blasphemous against someone in the Trinity of God. But here you are killing someone for blasphemy against the slave of aLLAH.

I can bet it. Over 50% of Muslims worldwide are still Muslims only because of the fear of apostasy. Islam would have been deserted long time ago. God doesn't need to force people before catching them. He created us and gave us free will to chose between good and evil. I chose good. For you, what did you choose? To be throwing bombs or cutting peoples hands? Its left for you to answer? I leave you in peace!!!

please wat happened to does politicians that looted wat belong to millions of people,is their hands cut off according to d shari'a law ? shari'a law is not fully practice in that state so they shld not waste the life of a common man.

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yellowman2225:


I think you will also approve of this stand your ground law if its in force in both Kaduna and Benue? So at least land owners can kill those heardsmen trying to steal their land.

You always quote evils when it suits you. Hell Rufai quoted Jesus impregnating someone and even mentioned Judas in the quote, did heaven fall? Did you ever made comment that he is blasphemous against someone in the Trinity of God. But here you are killing someone for blasphemy against the slave of aLLAH.

I can bet it. Over 50% of Muslims worldwide are still Muslims only because of the fear of apostasy. Islam would have been deserted long time ago. God doesn't need to force people before catching them. He created us and gave us free will to chose between good and evil. I chose good. For you, what did you choose? To be throwing bombs or cutting peoples hands? Its left for you to answer? I leave you in peace!![/s]!

Farki:


[s]If states can make laws then I will make a "Kill all Muslims" law since the constitution doesn't matter and people can be killed for wrongthink. The reality is that this law a the stand your ground law are stupid, you are only telling me that we should accept stupid laws because your religion benefits from keeping everyone scared to criticise it. [/s]

common sense is lost

soyaq11:
[s][/s]
kindly please read Leviticus 24:10-16
commonsense isn't common

Is Leviticus 24:10-16 part of Christianity (Matthew to Revelation) or u just need 'leviticus' because of the blind argument u are interested in?
True true common sense isn't common.

AerialMapper:
If he wins the appeal, he should denounce the religion! Why stay in a religion that wants to kill you for singing?!

He is better of worshipping any other deity other than one that has an inferiority complex

This your inferiority complex comment made me laugh hard lol

Empiree:
guy, I am not really interested in religious discourse. This thread is about appeal and help the guy to get lesser judgement. If you truly wish good for the guy you would obey the law and follow due to process of appeal but majority of you are just ranting online. Who that helps?.


Anyways, it is interesting you are denying old testament but you won't blink twice before you defend old testament when it suits you especially when it involves Israel.

Nobody is denying the Old Testament. Christianity originally means people who behave like Christ, which simply means there was no Christianity before Jesus Christ was born. Why do Muslims like to always compare everything of theirs to Christianity, u should all be ashamed of ur selves. We don't follow Old Testament as Christians because it's the old law (Jewish law), we follow the New Testament, which the Jews don't follow because they are Jewish ( is this still difficult to understand?) Let me make u understand, if you still want to, using the old Nigerian law of 1960 and the new Nigerian law of 1999. all Nigerians are bound by the Nigerian constitution of 1999, because the 1960 constitution has been done away with. So also are Christians bound by the New Testament and not the Judaic law. So Christians don't deny the Old Testament, we only inform u all, and rightly so, that we are not bound by the Old Testament. But we know you all like to argue and compare with the Bible and Christianity Lol just like Aba made product like to compare to Gucci

Swagaliciousguy:


Bloody atheist. FYI, wat is claimed to be civilization today, islam has gone beyond it more than 1500years ago

Are u serious? Lol

[quote author=Empiree post=93547904]So you have not received sense in everything i said?. Who talks about killing?. I have been talking about validity of the law. I am really disappointed in many of you nigerians. I thought they said you guys are educated?. Many of you that commented on this topic are very a