donestk:
World War III will defy conventional methods of engagement.

Frontlines may be non existent.

Just like the battle of kurst (largest tank battle in history) ww3 will be more of air and naval superiority.

panafrican:
Why didn' t Hitler invade the UK and why did the German army let the British escape at Dunkirk in 1940?
Any idea?

Missy89:



The most over hyped general was Monty

bigrovar:


The german were more concerned about the eastern front in ww2 than UK which was of little strategic value. The idea was to contain the brits (most considered them too down to pose a serious threat - huge mistake) The eastern front is where the juice is. It is where Hitler hoped to create Lebensraum.. Living space for the german race. Unlike other European powers the germans have a very small land mass and very few colonies. Hilter note that to be respected as a world power you need huge land mass. If there is anything Russia has in abundance.. It is land. German were suppose to stroll into the mostly under developed mostly peasant country with little industrial capabilities and a largely under equipped army.. It was suppose to be easy pickings.

bigrovar:
The general misconception is that Germans lost to the Russian winter. i.e Russian winter played the biggest role in the Germans losing out to Russia. This is not true. Yes the Russia winter played a role but the biggest reason why Germany lost to Russia was due to Hitler's sense of invisibility, isanity and extreme arrogance. Germans went into Russia believing they were in for a swift victory the likes experienced in Western Europe. They considered the Russian to be of a lesser class of people who would surrender in droves under the Blitzkrieg. They expected to to be home by Christmas (a 6 months campaign)

This arrogance made the Germans commit the following tactical error:

Started the campaign without preparing for the Russian winter: The men had no winter clothing, their hardware had no provision for coping with the russian winter.

They completely under estimated the fanatical defends of the mother russia by the Russians who in many instances fought to the last man.. This type of resistance was alien to the Germans who were used to mass surrender once a you outflank and surround an army.. it is suppose to just give up and surrender. The Russians choose not to play to that script and instead fought with the skin of their teeth even when all hope seems lost. Germans often find themselves surrounding and then having to take out the Russians from every inch of land leading to very high attrition from the former.

No room for reserve, Arrogance allowed the Germans to throw in all they had.. because they were assured of victory, they made no room for reserve. Stalin on the other hand used his reserve very well. Unleashing them on the wary Germans time after time at just the perfect moment.

Badly trained and equipped flanks. The Germans rear guard and flanks were often guarded by poorly trained, ill motivated and equipped Hungarian ally. The Russian on many cases especially in the battle for Stalingrad concentrated their fire power on the German Hungarian flanks.. decimating them with their multi rocket launcher before encircling the 6th army (Germany never recovered from that loss)

Hitler's insanity halted the German advance on Moscow, allowing the Russians enough time to prepare a defence. Many German general would go on to say Moscow was the beginning of the end for the German eastern campaign.

Also Hitler's obsession with Stalingrad, a city with zero strategic value but sucked in lots of men and resources which should have been heading towards the more strategic oil fields of baku.. Hitler insanity was in full display when he ordered the 6th army not to attempt to break out of their encirclement even when the opportunity arose. Promising to supply the troops by air.

Even at the battle of the kursk Hitlers delay and constant postponement allowed the Russians to have time to a well laid out plan.

in all these Winter role was just an enabler for the Russian's

nigeriancritic1:

GREAT OF YOU. ROMMEL WAS A GENIUS. GREATER THAN EVEN EISENHOWER HIMSELF. A SINGLE INDIVIDUAL SO EASILY SEEN IN THE CROWD OF FELLOW SOLDIERS, GERMAN OR ALLIED. HE WAS AN ASSET.
THE NAZIS WERE TOO STRETCHED. AMASSING ENEMIES ACROSS ALL FRONTS. THEY WERE CHOKED FROM ALL CARDINAL POINTS.
PLEASE, DON'T TALK ABOUT THE FRENCH AND ITALIANS HERE. THEY WERE NOT PRESENT IN THE WAR. LAME DUCKS, ONLY SEX, FASHION AND CUISINES!

Rossikk:
The main reason Germany lost was Hitler's incompetence as a military leader. He only had limited military expertise, being an ex colonel, yet he was the one directing the Germany army on important things like when to withdraw from battlefields if things got too rough etc. In almost all instances, he insisted the troops remain fighting to the last man, even against all odds, and against the advice of seasoned generals and field marshals. This led to catastrophic losses for the Germans. The battle of Stalingrad was the last straw. He grossly underestimated the Russians, and his army paid a terrible price.

Omololu001:
Hitler was not an officer.

mysticwarrior:
Hitler was a soldier who fought in the first world war, he was wonded during the first world war, and even when he was the leader of Germany he still fancy military outfit in most occasions.

donestk:
Let's share stories, analysis, photos and videos from the North African campaign to the western front and eastern front.

Missy89:
Fun fact

Some US tank crews have pictures of Heinz Guderian in their tanks during the Iraq war.

Guderian is usually regarded as the grand father of motorized tactics and was a Generaloberst in the German army during world war 2

nigeriancritic1:

AND THEY WERE TOO FAR-FLUNG TO SUSTAIN SUCH ASSETS. THEY SHOULD HAVE LEARNED FROM THE PERSIANS. YOU DONT JUST GO THAT FAR AND FIGHT SOMEBODY ON HIS TERRAIN(BRITAIN HAD BEEN IN NORTH AFRICA FOR AGES DURING THE COLONIAL PERIOD, EGYPT PRECISELY ). HIS HABITAT MAY BECOME YOUR ENEMY. AMERICA NEW THIS WHEN THEY NUKED JAPAN. THEY DARED NOT HOP THE JAPANESE ISLANDS. HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS WOULD DIE PER ISLAND. ASK OF WHAT HAPPENED IN PELELIU, GUADALCANAL AND IWO JIMA. LESSONS LEARNED FOR THE FUTURE.

donestk:
Between Rommel and Manstein, who was more of a genius?

panafrican:

Don't forget Otto Skorzeny.

mysticwarrior:
one of the funniest part of the war is how the Germans fried and grinded the French army so easily.

Defaramade:
Sir Rosikki I see you viewing. Your contributions to the thread will be highly appreciated.

donestk:
We can revive it though i've dropped military history as a hobby and taken conservation as my hobby for now

nospmoht:

SORRY ALL THE CAMPS SET UP BY THE NAZI, DON'T YOU THINK IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN