solmusdesigns:


Ok let me give you a straight forward answer based on experience

My cousin is a Naval Officer, and went to join SBS (Special Boat Service) these are elite forces similar to US navy seal or the marine commando, upon getting selected he came home to seek protection from my dad's uncle who happens to be a Land merchant, Ibadan high chief, and Customary court Judge.. to cut the long story short a dish was prepared for him with content including cat eyes, and other ingredients, bullets from a pump action was tested on him and nothing happened, he has done tours in North East, and South South with many falling beside him without him getting hit..

Another personal experience is 2013 during my service year as a Corper in Abeokuta I witnessed metaphysical phenomenon aka jazz called Magun live and direct, I witnessed do as I say charm being used on a British online client live and direct



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Fake stories.

For starters, ur uncle either shot ur cousin with a shotgun *off range* or he shot him with blanks.........that ritual he did is purely to motivate ur brother to be fearless and be at his very peak in battle. The motivation alone can keep him alive more than others and he has more zeal to survive and cuz he enters each battle fearless, It increases his chance of survival cuz fear is the number1 thing that kills a soldier in battle. The day AK47 bullet hit ur cousin, it will pierce him straight up.




Millions of soldiers fought countless battles in africa and europe and asia during thr 2nd world war, some were deployed in 1941 in africa, from there they launched to europe and they pushed hitler from France back to Berlin this took 4 years, millions of dem survived, fought many battles, other soldiers fell to death left n right around dem but they never died.....ring a bell?









Pls explain exactly what u saw as Magun.

And explain the charm una use on British client too.

princeSammyz:
Good question. One perspective I'll like you to consider as you answer this question is the following. Why was Africa helpless against colonization with all the acclaimed potency of African Traditional Religion ATR? And why was it that the instrument of domination employed by the whites were different from the spiritual powers of the new God they were selling to Africans? If Odeshe is so powerful, no more important era for that to have been proven than the periods of slavery and colonization.

And you think Africa has monopoly of juju abi

Blitzerz:

There is money on earth.

Why are people poor?

One cold beer for this nigar

PrecisionFx:


Be wise and think.
Those things dont exist.

You are in no position to make existential claims because you know nothing.

ojaysam25:

And you think Africa has monopoly of juju abi

U mean europeans use odeshi too? Bullets and knife no de pierce dem?

Blitzerz:

There is money on earth.

Why are people poor?

This doesn't connect

Even in the dark arts you can’t match the white nan..words like witchcraft, occultism, shamanic, astral projections, divination, necromancy, voodoo, demonic invocation are all English words...they’ve been into this shyt way before your forefathers.

Blitzerz:

Before the advent of the molecular whatever, you would have also written a Nairaland article that "viruses don't exist"

With or without it you'll would know when you fall sick when you get infected.

What can you prove juju existence with? Stories

Juju is real, that is what our forefathers use to protect themselves before the Whitman brought religion.

Goldensword:
it's real, but the problem is that some of our men in armed forces trust their training more, i know of a guy from my place in army, though late now he died this year around March from bomb ambushed, but i can tell you that this guy has fought in northeast for more than 4years without a scratch. again have you asked yourself how managed ipob men where able to caught two DSS men in Enugu during the recent fracas between them, despite that DSS men were well armed. my dear odeshi is very real.

Odeshi is real but shrapnel from bomb killed the so called man wen bullet never hit in 4 years.......laugh @ ur self pls

Nggs121:
If bullshet like this worked no african Solider who ever went to any war would die

Whether they used it or not?

luminouz:
Yes

With all I've seen so far...there are dark forces inhabiting this reality with us. People call them many names..Jinns,Succubuses,Incubuses, Marine Spirits..and all that. The world of magic existed on the planet and even in some bloodlines but sadly have been rooted out by Christianity, died out naturally or the world just moved on.

Power comes in many forms...either from within(magic bloodlines or necromancers) or external (spirits we can't see). The former can be good or evil attached(good and evil witches, wizards, native doctors and the likes) while the latter is purely evil in its most basic form. These latter entities dont see humans as beings but food. They prey on your sorrows, tears,chaos and blood to sustain their entities or empower themselves. They can give(more like borrow) you immense power but often at a very steep and terrible price, which you always end up regretting.

Oh,there is power. Its neither good or evil but just follows the dictates of the users.

What is that thing that u have seen so far?

luminouz:

Not Bermuda Triangle!!

Go to YouTube and make your research

Liftkid:
Odeshi or juju is real to an extent.

During my secondary School days, when boys dey threaten us for hood and school. My friend stone took us to one Mr Last Kobo and he prepared a charm for us.

He didn't really shoot us after fortifying us as he had no Gun but he stabbed us with knife and axed us but we were never penetrated.

We were advised against sharing egg with someone else, mounting a girl seeing her monthly visitor and sharing razor blade.

This lasted for over 2 years. Playing with knife doesn't seem like anything for me and friends. Sometimes, I would ask my cousins to stab me and they would be scared.

Later 2012, I traveled to Ibadan and told my elder brother and he took me to christmatic and I was prayed for. After that confession and prayers,I started doing all of those things last Kobo advised us not to.

I later tried to stab myself one afternoon with the kitchen knife and I was penetrated.


With this little experience I can say... Juju is real to an extent.

Nothing here is true.

sapphiere:
They are real. Some soldiers have them. Most soldiers know about it but refuse to do/use it due to the consequences or their religious belief.

If odeshi worked. Even the whole boko haram go do am and become unkillable.

Forget those things

oluwaSavage:
As much as I hate to believe that these things are real here, people around me do prove me otherwise with a very tangible and irrefutable evidence and I won't have a choice than to shut up and believe them lol. Spiritual juju is real but I still find it as a ruse nonetheless.

lies

PrecisionFx:



What is that thing that u have seen so far?

Dem plenty Bros,I won't lie to you...


Sha let's leave am like that!!

luminouz:


Dem plenty Bros,I won't lie to you...


Sha let's leave am like that!!

U are lying already, u no see shit.

MrColdsweat:


You are in no position to make existential claims because you know nothing.

U that know, what do u know?? Just show proof and dont make noise with rumours u hear around

PrecisionFx:


U are lying already, u no see shit.

Please be civil. I'm too old to be pulling diapers off your ass biko.

If you dont believe me, believe there is Jesus and Mohammed and hell fire.


Now,can we rest the matter?

spaceacademy:
it is real. metaphysics implies paranormal.my parent narrated the story of agbekoya. the good book talks about principalities,darkness,powers, rulers

There is a reason physicists have abandoned their ancient approach, the newtonian, deterministic model which sees the world in term of cause and effect, as a closed system.

Thanks to modern mechanics, we have discovered that we have wrong all along. Infact, from the little we understand from this new perspective, everything is possible. If you say humans can fly, it is possible. New discoveries in atomic physics and astronomy have shattered the boundaries of Newtonian physics. Now we are talking about time travel and wormholes bla bla bla.... This proves that anything is possible. Including juju being real, including ghosts still working the earth. The world is a chaotic system.

Science is at an infant age, still Ill equipped to study the universe.

With time, science will catch up..

Only a fool would claim that an unproven claim is false. Even the so called science often goes back to verify the claims it falsified.

spaceacademy:
it is real. metaphysics implies paranormal.my parent narrated the story of agbekoya. the good book talks about principalities,darkness,powers, rulers

What's agbekoya?

Science are looking into time travel, wormholes, rapid cell regeneration, etc yet you say juju doesn't exist all because our forefathers can do these things without complex apparatuses.

ednut1:
it is what it is. they were whipped by the better equipped people. no shame in that. they still whip us till date. stand up to them and get bleeped up. Mugabe, Ghaddafi, Saddam Hussein and co can testify.

Testify to what exactly? I hope we are still on juju and odeshi?

luminouz:


Please be civil. I'm too old to be pulling diapers off your ass biko.

If you dont believe me, believe there is Jesus and Mohammed and hell fire.


Now,can we rest the matter?

There is equally no jesus, mohammed and hellfire

SUFFERInSMILIIN:


Do white people have known about this for a long time since the 1940s. Let's look at South Africa as a good example when the British arrived they were defeated massively by the Zulus on two occasions. The first time the British commanders in their bullets have no effect on the Zulus. Undated ambush on zululand before it they caught a Zulu warrior and tortured him and he told them where is the correct place to shoot on the body. That's how the British managed to defeat the Zulus on the third attempt

where is the proof of this your information ??

PrecisionFx:


There is equally no jesus, mohammed and hellfire

K...

PrecisionFx:



U that know, what do u know?? Just show proof and dont make noise with rumours u hear around

Empiricism as the only path to the truth has been shattered long ago. Infact, it has been tagged a belief.

You BELIEVE that human experience is the only yardstick for the truth.

When you claim that grapes are sour, and you give grapes to your fellow humans to verify that grapes are sour and they all taste it and they all claim that truly, grapes are sour, it becomes knowledge to humans that grapes are sour.

But are grapes sour because they are truly sour or because they are sour to our taste bud?

Are grapes sour to goats, sheeps and other animals?

This is the problem with empiricism. We look at life from our subjective perspective and make truth claims whereas life is complex.

When you say something must have proof before it can be accepted as true, then you're as dogmatic as the Christians or Muslims you mock.

charlsecy:
Whether they used it or not?

Because everyone would be using it

they are just as real as GOD.. if you believe in God, then you cannot deny the existence or efficacy of Juju and the likes because God also acknowledges that they are real just not as powerful as his version

The op has asked very pertinent questions.

Juju or African metaphysics is something that remains a mystery. in my home country Ghana, juju has proven to be more efficient than what i have seen in Nigeria.
I personally think that the juju doctors or African practitioners have very strict ethos that prevent them from publicly publishing their methods. This is just my random personal thought anyway.

joyandfaith:



electromagnetic force attracted metallic bullets to the boy.
doll in the neck has electromagnetic force. what you called juju I called it ancient and hidden science.

Exactly. The scene was so horrific that even the cloud changed as if it wants to rain. Bodies of hausas where littered on the road, all the markets
were closed down, with billionaires in each market donating a trailer of machete, mehnn...it was a gory scene to behold.

I wasn't there during the civil war, but I can imagine what it looked like. My people, no matter how we hate ourselves reach ee...let's avoid war situation oo... Cos the scene no funny at allll.....!