MosheDayan:
[s][/s]I have been trying for a while to really understand where this young man is coming from. now I get. some times, it's better for one to keep quiet than to make a fool out of himself. what is the relationship between the Ijaws, Urohbo, Itsekiri, and Isoko with the Igbos? and what benefit are we to get from these people let's say we want to even force them to join us? how can you force a people who do not have any reasonable thing to offer? these people keep talking about how Igbos want to force SS peeps with them. how amusing. Mr Ijaw, you are useless to us. even to Nigeria. if not for oil what have you offered Nigeria other than militancy? please you are not important. and you don't exist.

Are you done talking or you have something more, perhaps something meaningful to say this time?

ijawcitizen:
Are you done talking or you have something more, perhaps something meaningful to say this time?

you are always jumping on threads that talk about Igbos and SS. my guy you are not important in the scheme of things stop making yourself look like as if you are. go and settle your rift with the Edo people that you have been trying for so many years to steal their land. go and settle your issues with the itsekiri in Delta State. Igbos are not your problem. you are a minority group with less value to us. please stop embarrassing yourself.

ijawcitizen:
Are you done talking or you have something more, perhaps something meaningful to say this time?

You obviously didn't read my original post where it was stated that in this modern day Alliances are necessary. Eg Germany big as it is has various Alliances. The post also says your type can stay in Ijaw land. Even just remain in your village. Ijaw nation will benefit from associating not only with Igbo, but Ogoja (like me), Ogoni, Urhobo etc. We are done with the DUMB African who thinks that in 21st century his little village can be a country on its own. That's just baby talk.

MosheDayan:
[s][/s]I have been trying for a while to really understand where this young man is coming from. now I get. some times, it's better for one to keep quiet than to make a fool out of himself. what is the relationship between the Ijaws, Urohbo, Itsekiri, and Isoko with the Igbos? and what benefit are we to get from these people let's say we want to even force them to join us? how can you force a people who do not have any reasonable thing to offer? these people keep talking about how Igbos want to force SS peeps with them. how amusing. Mr Ijaw, you are useless to us. even to Nigeria. if not for oil what have you offered Nigeria other than militancy? please you are not important. and you don't exist.

They ( Ijaws) will be more useless and more problematic to us should Igbos accommodate them in Biafra. They need the Igbos more than the Igbos need them. The fulani oil they are bragging about is fast fading and is replacing with lithinium and copper which are used to make batteries and coils for electric vehicles. The world is now moving away from fossil fuel to greener energy, so I don't get their bragging rights. So far they don't encroach on any Igbo territory I don't have problem with them.

awgumayor:
They ( Ijaws) will be more useless and more problematic to us should Igbos accommodate them in Biafra. They need the Igbos more than the Igbos need them. The fulani oil they are bragging about is fast fading and is replacing with lithinium and copper which are used to make batteries and coils for electric vehicles. The world is now moving away from fossil fuel to greener energy, so I don't get their bragging rights. So far they don't encroach on any Igbo territory I don't have problem with them.

The new country of Lower Niger Bloc (whatever its final name will be) will be a Federation.

So all ethnic nationalities will have Resource Control and Self-determination.

It will be nothing at all like this diabolic One Nigeria.

I have Ijaw friends and they are very happy with this new soon-to-be country. It will be awesome.

We will just find ways to deal with the Black Trash among us. Just as Oyeebo deal with the White Trash among them.

Good day brother.

meavox:


You obviously didn't read my original post where it was stated that in this modern day Alliances are necessary. Eg Germany big as it is has various Alliances. The post also says your type can stay in Ijaw land. Even just remain in your village. Ijaw nation will benefit from associating not only with Igbo, but Ogoja (like me), Ogoni, Urhobo etc. We are done with the DUMB African who thinks that in 21st century his little village can be a country on its own. That's just baby talk.

Read aloud to your hearing the title of your topic again and tell me who you think you're fooling

awgumayor:
They ( Ijaws) will be more useless and more problematic to us should Igbos accommodate them in Biafra. They need the Igbos more than the Igbos need them. The fulani oil they are bragging about is fast fading and is replacing with lithinium and copper which are used to make batteries and coils for electric vehicles. The world is now moving away from fossil fuel to greener energy, so I don't get their bragging rights. So far they don't encroach on any Igbo territory I don't have problem with them.

i feel so amused when these people in the SS who are non Igbos try to make themselves feel like our destiny lies in their hands. for heavens sake the Igbos came back like an equalizer and closed the gap between them and the others even after the destruction during the war. WITHOUT THE HELP OR THESE SAME PEOPLE WHO TOOK OUR PROPERTIES IN RIVERS. if we didnt need them then why would we need them in the future?

MosheDayan:
you are always jumping on threads that talk about Igbos and SS. my guy you are not important in the scheme of things stop making yourself look like as if you are. go and settle your rift with the Edo people that you have been trying for so many years to steal their land. go and settle your issues with the itsekiri in Delta State. Igbos are not your problem. you are a minority group with less value to us. please stop embarrassing yourself.

You seem to be very good at talking trash. Keep it up

ijawcitizen:
You seem to be very good at talking trash. Keep it up

Then stay the fvck away from Igbos both SE and SS Igbos. thank you.

MosheDayan:
i feel so amused when these people in the SS who are non Igbos try to make themselves feel like our destiny lies in their hands. for heavens sake the Igbos came back like an equalizer and closed the gap between them and the others even after the destruction during the war. WITHOUT THE HELP OR THESE SAME PEOPLE WHO TOOK OUR PROPERTIES IN RIVERS. if we didnt need them then why would we need them in the future?

Don't mind those microcosms. They are inconsequential to the Igbos. What do they have that Igbos will be obsessed with them other than militancy and cultism. Every now and then they are raining insults on Igbos as if they better than the Igbos in that contraption. The oil in their backyard is not even in their control, yet they have the gut to attack Igbos in every flimsy issue. One will wonder that they have transformed their region to equals UAE or Qatar with their oil. Anyday the Ijaw draw their niger delta republic map excludes Igbo territories will be the day Igbos will stpo meddling in anything or any issue concerning niger delta or south south. As it is now Igbos have every right to every issue concerning south south and south east.
Igbos don't need ijaw or any minority group in ss to survive, we are big enough to stand as a country.

awgumayor:
Don't mind those microcosms. They are inconsequential to the Igbos. What do they have that Igbos will be obsessed with them other than militancy and cultism. Every now and then they are raining insults on Igbos as if they better than the Igbos in that contraption. The oil in their backyard is not even in their control, yet they have the gut to attack Igbos in every flimsy issue. One will wonder that they have transformed their region to equals UAE or Qatar with their oil. Anyday the Ijaw draw their niger delta republic map excludes Igbo territories will be the day Igbos will stpo meddling in anything or any issue concerning niger delta or south south. As it is now Igbos have every right to every issue concerning south south and south east.
Igbos don't need ijaw or any minority group in ss to survive, we are big enough to stand as a country.

later one inconsequential ethnic group would come and flex muscles with Igbo people................the day i was shocked was when one edo man was harrasing Igbos on this forum..........i am like wtf??

meavox:


The new country of Lower Niger Bloc (whatever its final name will be) will be a Federation.

So all ethnic nationalities will have Resource Control and Self-determination.

It will be nothing at all like this diabolic One Nigeria.

I have Ijaw friends and they are very happy with this new soon-to-be country. It will be awesome.

We will just find ways to deal with the Black Trash among us. Just as Oyeebo deal with the White Trash among them.

Good day brother.

My brother, I got your point. Just that when you are trying to make these people understand that we need to come together and push our way out of this British cage they misconstrued it as Igbo hegemony, that Igbos only want their oil as if there is no oil in igbo land.
If Lowe Niger succeeded it will be like United kingdom where we have biafra country, niger delta country, Ogoja country etc, all under Lower Niger. Each will have total control of her resources and who ever feels to opt out should be allowed to do so. But when you are trying to explain these things some idiots will start raining insults on Igbos just because they hear ss, se. Ipob also presented the same case, but Igbophobia in them don't allow them reason. I thank God they are not better than the Igbos in that British/ fulani cage.

MosheDayan:
later one inconsequential ethnic group would come and flex muscles with Igbo people................the day i was shocked was when one edo man was harrasing Igbos on this forum..........i am like wtf??

I don't blame them I blame we Igbos who are obsessed with anytime outside our region.We love Bragging about I travel to this, I travel to that, Abandoning our region to ruins. If we can start now thinking home and start developing our region adopting Singapore and UAE models of looking upwards because of limited space for huge population, those fish brains will not find footholds to insult us.

awgumayor:
I don't blame them I blame we Igbos who are obsessed with anytime outside our region.We love Bragging about I travel to this, I travel to that, Abandoning our region to ruins. If we can start now thinking home and start developing our region adopting Singapore and UAE models of looking upwards because of limited space for huge population, those fish brains will not find footholds to insult us.

lol

Isn't this thread about suggesting names for you new nation?

Isn't this meant to unify and advance the cause of the SE and SS as one entity if and when Nigeria breaks down?

But all I see here is disunity and infighting and civil unrest.

With the way you're handling this, I think your staying in Nigeria would be better because all I am seeing is unending civil wars.

ijawcitizen:
Just like Middle belt is separate from the North, so is Niger Delta separate from Igboland.

You can not mischievously merge SS/SE together under spurious grounds while seeing the wisdom and objectivity of separating North and MiddleBelt.

Use the same insight and wisdom to separate Igboland and Niger Delta as two separate entities but part of the multilateral alliance involving biafra, MiddleBelt, oduduwa and Niger Delta where our investments shall be secured within these territories.

This igbo obsession and diabolic sense of entitlement to the Niger Delta is not different from the fulani demonic sense of entitlement to the middle belt, therefore must be destroyed too.

brotherly u are right, igbo will then become the hausa or rather the fulani of briafra will their selfish entitlement.

OriakuAmara:

Igbos and Ijaws in a fight? lolz nothing beret no go see for mercy chinwo head,
its like you guys want to go on extinction!
bravery is not shooting and running into creek, bravery is waging war against Nigeria,Britain,France,Egypt for 3yrs,
I am not an Ipob member that massage you guys inferior ego,
ijaw land is ur land
Igbo land and territory is ours and it goes beyond south east just the same way ijaw land fell into ondo.
get that into ur brain!
.
keep hating ,Igbos are progressing, your ogogoro people are retrogressing.
lols hahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha

What is there to hate about igbos? is it human traffcking, otokoto, drug dealers, 419, or what? Unwanted criminals feeling fly.

awgumayor:
They ( Ijaws) will be more useless and more problematic to us should Igbos accommodate them in Biafra. They need the Igbos more than the Igbos need them. The fulani oil they are bragging about is fast fading and is replacing with lithinium and copper which are used to make batteries and coils for electric vehicles. The world is now moving away from fossil fuel to greener energy, so I don't get their bragging rights. So far they don't encroach on any Igbo territory I don't have problem with them.

Godforbid! No ijaw man dead or alive need igbo otokoto rituaist in anything.Why will any ijaw man want anything to do with unholy developers?

OriakuAmara:

Igbos and Ijaws in a fight? lolz nothing beret no go see for mercy chinwo head,
its like you guys want to go on extinction!
bravery is not shooting and running into creek, bravery is waging war against Nigeria,Britain,France,Egypt for 3yrs,
I am not an Ipob member that massage you guys inferior ego,
ijaw land is ur land
Igbo land and territory is ours and it goes beyond south east just the same way ijaw land fell into ondo.
get that into ur brain!
.
keep hating ,Igbos are progressing, your ogogoro people are retrogressing.
lols hahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha

What is there to hate about criminal igbos?

ijawcitizen:

Me, talking rubbish?
Now, listen good.

I am way above and beyond your stupid emotional rhetorics and it exposes your igbo supremacy agenda even from afar. I have see your so called LNC map and how fraudulent it is.

There is nothing intelligent about LNC if you cannot comprehend basic intelligence as the resolve of the people of Niger Delta (non-igbos of the South South) to forge our own destiny without igbo or yoruba.

There is no way on earth and in heaven Niger Deltans and igbos will be in a single bloc, country or whatever nonsense you and your ilks cook up. The alliance you seek with ND, MiddleBelt & oduduwa, you may get when we all have our separate nations.

Listen again, EU is made up of INDEPENDENT NATIONS headed originally by Britain, France and Germany until recently. Even now, Germany cannot be said to be the leader of EU when any two European countries combined can beat Germany.

I do not buy your "We are all Christians" bullshitt. Which two Christian countries merged because they said to themselves "We are all Christians"?

Most importantly, we are capable of defending our Niger Delta from "Arewa terrorism" so you better think of ways to defend your Igboland from them too because they will finish with Igboland before making any attempt to their downfall in the Niger Delta.

You Igbos lack the most basic respect for the people of the Niger Delta and our territory. That is why you come up with different versions of the same bullshitt; LNC, SS/SE govs forum, biafra,etc.

You people have made it a mission never to acknowledge the sovereignty of the Niger Delta just Arewa refuse to acknowledge MB. You see why you are not different from them?

You can not override our sovereignty using "Arewa terrorism", " we are all Christians" and all what's Not! We do not even share the same philosophy and culture with you igbos...you lied blatantly about that too!

But unlike the MiddleBelt, we are free from the igbo yoke just as our western territory is free from yoruba yoke. You have no power over us, and any attempt to reestablish that diabolical hold on us under any guise shall be resisted.

You are just ranting rubbish here there is no time the igbos have plotted to steal ur lands and resources even nmk that is including u guys in his biafra map is only calling for a referudum where every ethnic group in the niger delta will vote for where they will love to belong to so where are all these unnecessary hate and fear coming from?
There have never been any recorded history of igbos in the hinterlands invading the lands of non Igbo speaking communities in the SS and massacring them and taking over their ancestral lands like the way the fulani usually does to northern christain communities so why all the hate?
The hausa/ fulanis have been hiding under one nigeria to steal ur oil and gas for decades to develop their region yet it's the Igbo man who have been suffering marginalization since the end of the biafran war that is now the problem of u people.

EMMY76:



You are just ranting rubbish here there is no time the igbos have plotted to steal ur lands and resources even nmk that is including u guys in his biafra map is only calling for a referudum where every ethnic group in the niger delta will vote for where they will love to belong to so where are all these unnecessary hate and fear coming from?
There have never been any recorded history of igbos in the hinterlands invading the lands of non Igbo speaking communities in the SS and massacring them and taking over their ancestral lands like the way the fulani usually does to northern christain communities so why all the hate?
The hausa/ fulanis have been hiding under one nigeria to steal ur oil and gas for decades to develop their region yet it's the Igbo man who have been suffering marginalization since the end of the biafran war that is now the problem of u people.

I wonder how some of them reason. No one is forcing anyone to join. We are only proposing that all our neighbouring groups join in the soon to come referendum where your ethnic group will decide whether to join Biafra or remain in Nigeria. If at present you know that you don't want any of the two, then start your own agitation. Your stance will determine how we relate to you. Simple!
While we are aware that there are many imposters here on nairaland claiming to be from the SS, we're equally aware that some of the non Igbos from the SS don't support the idea hence the need for a referendum to clear all doubt. When you reject me, I clearly know how to respond to your sos message.

SaintBishop:
Godforbid! No ijaw man dead or alive need igbo otokoto rituaist in anything.Why will any ijaw man want anything to do with unholy developers?

May God forbid that as you said. Ijaw in Biafra equals South Sudan, Biafra without Ijaw and other Igbophobic mushroom tribes equals Singapore. You people will be the clog in the wheel of our development.

SaintBishop:


What is there to hate about criminal igbos?

But you have everything to love "saint" Fulanis who you called your friends. " niger delta, friends of the north". They have been sitting on your oil in your backyard and claimed that it belongs to Jigawa. Igbos don't want you lazy drunken fools in Biafra. If Igbos are looking for who to "attach" they should look for Chile and Bolivia who have what the world needs which are copper and lithinium for electric vehicles and machines, USA, Russia, China and other industrial nations are already there. So your oil is fading away. As prophet TB Joshua put it. " Your oil, you wilk drink it, nobody will buy them, the price will drop drastically"

ijawcitizen:
Just like Middle belt is separate from the North, so is Niger Delta separate from Igboland.

You can not mischievously merge SS/SE together under spurious grounds while seeing the wisdom and objectivity of separating North and MiddleBelt.

Use the same insight and wisdom to separate Igboland and Niger Delta as two separate entities but part of the multilateral alliance involving biafra, MiddleBelt, oduduwa and Niger Delta where our investments shall be secured within these territories.

This igbo obsession and diabolic sense of entitlement to the Niger Delta is not different from the fulani demonic sense of entitlement to the middle belt, therefore must be destroyed too.

The bolded showed the depth of your intellectual laziness. Did you care to investigate the extent of Igbo land? I do not subscribe to your silly SS or SE crap. The SS and SE idiotic nomenclatures are product of moronic Nigeria. There are goons in Nigeria I would rather die than have them as compatriots again if the opportunity arises. I want Republic of Igbo land. The so-called Lower Niger Congress can even join Oduduwa, I do not give a ratass.

meavox:

FOR SOUTH EAST & SOUTH SOUTH: LOWER NIGER NATION – NAME TO BE DETERMINED LATER

Dear brethren of all ethnic nations of what today is called SE and SS,

We know Arewa are far ahead of us all as they already did their own Self-determination 20 years ago when they took up Sharia in year 2000. They are only physically in this fake Union so that they can continue to rob the South and Middle Belt of our resources.

Our Yoruba brethren are moving fast. You may have heard that under their Agbekoya they are planning a peaceful symbolic gathering in Lagos to demonstrate their support for Self-determination and Oduduwa Nation on our useless “Independence” Day.

Our Middle Belt brethren are doing what they can but they are also facing Sharia-supremacist genocide and land grab by Arewa under the Fulanization agenda.

Then there is us of so-called SE and SS. By now we should be more advanced in the Self-determination that not just Igbo seek, but we ALL seek. In this modern day nations need Alliances. Look at strong Germany still needing Alliance in EU, NATO, Schengen etc. We know some of us talk of Ijaw Nation, Ogoni Nation, Igbo Nation (as Biafra) etc but there is strength in numbers. We of SE and SS are Christians and should be able to live together in this life, as we hope to do in the next life too, is that not so? Even God told us that “Two are better than one… If either of them falls down, one can help the other up. But pity anyone who falls and has no one to help them up!… A cord of three strands is not quickly broken” (Ecclesiastes 4:9–12).

We should stop wasting time. That only harms us and our children because the sooner we gather TOGETHER to escape this Union called Nigeria, the better for us and especially for our children. We can sometimes be too emotional and that hinders our progress. Right now we need nothing but INTELLIGENCE to think straight!

Time is short, and we have looked around for the best way that each of the ethnic nationalities in SE and SS can each of us get our own Self-determination, and the platform is the Lower Niger Congress (LNC). LNC has already been following United Nations protocols and arranged them in 16 Stages. 13 Stages have already been done for the good and for the Self-determination of ALL the nations in SE and SS. When someone does something good for you, why would you curse them? Are we the FOOLISH Black man that White people describe? Rather, go and find out what EXACTLY Lower Niger Congress has been doing for your good! Thank them. Then thank God for them having been working for your good. Then add your own effort so that the next few Stages for you to get Self-determination are very quickly achieved. Please my brothers, let us act like adults, not like babies. A GOOD thing is here for us. So be happy and grateful!

To go to the UN, LNC used a map that Whites made of our area in 1885, at the time of Berlin Conference when Europe divided up Africa for themselves. That is why our Bloc is called “Lower Niger”. But that will NOT be the final name for our new country. ALL the ethnic nationalities will choose the name by voting. Nobody will impose their own choice of name or opinion on us.

Furthermore, the Lower Niger Bloc is divided into 6 Regions/Provinces according to ethnic nations. One Region is Ijaw. One Region is Igbo. Etc etc. We know our Igbo brethren love the name “Biafra” and they will choose the name of their Region by vote. So, their Region could in the end be called Biafra! Look at USA. A man from Texas has a flag of both USA and of Texas in front of his house. You meet him and he tells you “I am Texan”. He doesn’t say, he is American, he says Texan. So too in our new country of SE and SS together, we can describe ourselves by the name of our Region!

Very importantly, LNC has worked out an Alliance with Oduduwa and Middle Belt. So if we have businesses, property, assets in those two Alliance Blocs they remain safe and intact. It’s a bit like Germany being in EU.

Please my brethren of SE and SS. Let’s stop wasting time and instead gather around LNC’s UN-based Strategy. Yoruba are ahead of us. Let us get serious and act like grown men. If you are Igbo, you can get “Biafra” within the Lower Niger Bloc, so why waste time. Time wasting means spending more time with Arewa, which none of us want. Instead of guessing, go to the LNC website and Facebook site to get the FACTS!

Time is short. Arewa are fighting hard to keep this diabolical entrapment and fake Union called Nigeria over us. Our children MUST BE SET FREE! Let us be determined on getting that asap.

Google Lower Niger Congress or use links:

https://web.facebook.com/lowernigercongress

https://www.lnc-usa.org/blog/lnc-mnn-notice-board/

Please broadcast to all ethnic nationalities of SE and SS. The time for united action is NOW!

The above stream of thought is a silly joke. In the absence of idiotic Nigeria, I want Republic of Igbo land. It will be Igboland for Igbo as England is for English.

ijawcitizen:


Igbos are free to associate with and incorporate any igbo groups in the SS into their biafra kingdom. No one has forced the Niger Delta tag on any igbo group in the SS. The problem is you igbo want to force igbo ethnicity on non-igbos just because they speak an igboid dialect.

We Niger Deltans know ourselves and when we gather for important deliberations, we don't invite your igbo groups in the SS just as indigenous MiddleBeltans don't invite fulani in their MiddleBeltan discussions.

Argue with your breast

Ijo are nobodies in SS. It is very silly to insinuate that Ijo is landlord In the so-called SS therefore had the audacity to speak on behalf of ethnic minorities in SS. Ijo is expendable in SS.

awgumayor:
May God forbid that as you said. Ijaw in Biafra equals South Sudan, Biafra without Ijaw and other Igbophobic mushroom tribes equals Singapore. You people will be the clog in the wheel of our development.

Thank you jesus! Now tell your Nnamdi Kanu to remove ijaw people from his utopia bia whatever.

awgumayor:
But you have everything to love "saint" Fulanis who you called your friends. " niger delta, friends of the north". They have been sitting on your oil in your backyard and claimed that it belongs to Jigawa. Igbos don't want you lazy drunken fools in Biafra. If Igbos are looking for who to "attach" they should look for Chile and Bolivia who have what the world needs which are copper and lithinium for electric vehicles and machines, USA, Russia, China and other industrial nations are already there. So your oil is fading away. As prophet TB Joshua put it. " Your oil, you wilk drink it, nobody will buy them, the price will drop drastically"

Are you done lamenting ?

SaintBishop:
Are you done lamenting ?

It pepper you