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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 5:27pm On Sep 12, 2020
Unity Estate? Ma sharp sand is 80k
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by amalab30(m): 5:29pm On Sep 12, 2020
Patiently waiting.

n3xt:


SOS!!!

I want to go completely off grid and show more people it could be done.
We’ve learnt to survive without Ministry of Water Resources. We can achieve the same with the Ministry of Mines & Power.

I’ll share a video of a project that’s completely off grid shortly. I hope I’m able to find it.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 5:30pm On Sep 12, 2020
Granite hit 3700/ton September 15th
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:09pm On Sep 12, 2020
amalab30:
Patiently waiting.



I almost forgot grin

This 10-Apartment Block in Nigeria Runs Exclusively on a Hybrid of Solar and Wind Power


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbjNo_G-3n8

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:21pm On Sep 12, 2020
Solar Refrigerator

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 7:20pm On Sep 12, 2020
omanzo02:


It's unlikely oil will power this century to a greater extent,......the gradual exit have started.... Europe have already set the pace in banning certain goods that drive the oil industry (petrol & diesel vehicles) and setting timetable to phase-out some nuclear power reactors.......increase awareness and economic benefits are gradually increasing electric vehicle purchase... ...granted America and Asia will lag behind but would eventually keyed in due to policies changes of trading partners or risk loosing market share to China.
should Trump presidency continue after November,then oil is here to stay
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 7:28pm On Sep 12, 2020
michlins:
should Trump presidency continue after November,then oil is here to stay

Unfortunately, his Presidency will continue after November. But will terminate in January wink

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 7:30pm On Sep 12, 2020
EgunMogaji2:


Unfortunately, his Presidency will continue after November. But will terminate in January wink
sincerely I hope it ends by November. He and his type should stay in the past where they belong

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dendrick123: 7:58pm On Sep 12, 2020
n3xt:



I almost forgot grin

This 10-Apartment Block in Nigeria Runs Exclusively on a Hybrid of Solar and Wind Power


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbjNo_G-3n8
Astonishing

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by omanzo02: 8:18pm On Sep 12, 2020
michlins:
should Trump presidency continue after November,then oil is here to stay
Trump only runs America and can't force anyone to use oil..... You have heard him complaining about the European making it difficult for american autobiles and other products......2021 Europe will introduce Euro7 meaning Co2 pollution must not exceed 100g/km, that will force all manufacturer who want to sell in European market to make changes and comply with the new norms..... since Europe and other still respect the Paris climate change agreement.......they will leave America behind.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Muyi002(m): 8:37pm On Sep 12, 2020
Footstradamus:


Really nice, thanks for your response.

Despite some of the constructive criticism of the plan i still consider it a lovely floor pan and i am sure you are gonna enjoy the house when all is finished.

Looking forward to the cost breakdown

I have tried to type the whole cost to the wood work point but I was blocked for 24 hours. This is happening for a 3rd time. Maybe it is because the list is too long. I have attached a photo of the cost for your perusal.

Also my wood work is attached.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 8:45pm On Sep 12, 2020
Muyi002:


I have tried to type the whole cost to the wood work point but I was blocked for 24 hours. This is happening for a 3rd time. Maybe it is because the list is too long. I have attached a photo of the cost for your perusal.

Also my wood work is attached.

I’m confused about this.

Are you saying that you paid N180K for excavation, blinding and block setting to lintel level?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Muyi002(m): 9:02pm On Sep 12, 2020
EgunMogaji2:


I’m confused about this.

Are you saying that you paid N180K for excavation, blinding and block setting to lintel level?

Affirmative Sir!!!

Although I later paid 56k for block work after lintel to help the condition of the mason because I know the job is much
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 9:06pm On Sep 12, 2020
Muyi002:


Affirmative Sir!!!

Although I later paid 56k for block work after lintel to help the condition of the mason because I know the job is much

Sorry Sir, but was there German floor?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 9:08pm On Sep 12, 2020
Building and any other construction job is a contract either willfully entered into or not. The moment a contractor or builder submits a quotation to undertake a job for a client in exchange of remuneration, a contract is already established that's binding on both parties - client and contractor.

The reality of this scenario will come to limelight when there is a disagreement or dispute between both parties. So, a contractor's quote, project working drawings, specifications are all contract documents tenable in a arbitration or even formal court.

That's why clients and contractors are encouraged to engage the right professionals for every suitable of the project during pre-construction (pre-contract) and during and after-construction (post contract.

A typical scenario:

A and contractor entered into a contract unwittingly, say in March, before the dire consequences of Covid-19. The client pays 30% of the contract sum to the contractor as mobilization fee. Due to Covid-19, construction was suspended for about 4 months. Now, construction is about to be resumed on site and the contractor discovered that prices of virtually all materials needed have hiked by over 15% as against his quote.

Question:

Who bear the responsibility of this increase?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 9:13pm On Sep 12, 2020
omanzo02:

Trump only runs America and can't force anyone to use oil..... You have heard him complaining about the European making it difficult for american autobiles and other products......2021 Europe will introduce Euro7 meaning Co2 pollution must not exceed 100g/km, that will force all manufacturer who want to sell in European market to make changes and comply with the new norm..... since Europe and other still respect the Paris climate change agreement.......they will leave America behind.
here's what you're forgetting, Trump and America drives every part of this world. Should Trump win, many like him will win in their respective nations. If you remember, during the last national convention of the Republican party at which Trump formally accepted the company flag, the highlight of it was the party celebrating rollback of many Obama era environmental policies

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Muyi002(m): 9:32pm On Sep 12, 2020
EgunMogaji2:


Sorry Sir, but was there German floor?

What I did was half dpc with DPM put round the tip blocks. See attached for why I meant as half DPC.

It was later I floored the building. The cost is also captured.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 9:33pm On Sep 12, 2020
QSFemi:
Building and any other construction job is a contract either willfully entered into or not. The moment a contractor or builder submits a quotation to undertake a job for a client in exchange of remuneration, a contract is already established that's binding on both parties - client and contractor.

The reality of this scenario will come to limelight when there is a disagreement or dispute between both parties. So, a contractor's quote, project working drawings, specifications are all contract documents tenable in a arbitration or even formal court.

That's why clients and contractors are encouraged to engage the right professionals for every suitable of the project during pre-construction (pre-contract) and during and after-construction (post contract.

A typical scenario:

A and contractor entered into a contract unwittingly, say in March, before the dire consequences of Covid-19. The client pays 30% of the contract sum to the contractor as mobilization fee. Due to Covid-19, construction was suspended for about 4 months. Now, construction is about to be resumed on site and the contractor discovered that prices of virtually all materials needed have hiked by over 15% as against his quote.

Question:

Who bear the responsibility of this increase?

This is elementary.

What does the contract say about that? This ought to have been spelt out in the contract.

My contract says I’m responsible for materials and equipments. I pay labor. So price increases are absorbed by me.

On my Masons he carries any increase in labor cost or rework.

For example it’s raining now and they were doing excavation earlier. I expect them to redo some excavation and I shouldn’t hear about it.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 9:35pm On Sep 12, 2020
Muyi002:


What I did was half dpc with DPM put round the tip blocks. See attached for why I meant as half DPC.

It was later I floored the building. The cost is also captured.

Okay I got it now.

Thanks.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by amosblisz: 9:37pm On Sep 12, 2020
How much would it cost me wood work to roof a 4 bedroom all ensuite and a detached self contained bungalow. My Engr is saying btwn 500k to 600k for wood works alone,I honestly don't want to be cheated
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 9:42pm On Sep 12, 2020
Yes, it's elementary. The import of the post is to create awareness about contractual obligations of parties to the contract.


EgunMogaji2:


This is elementary.

What does the contract say about that? This ought to have been spelt out in the contract.

My contract says I’m responsible for materials and equipments. I pay labor. So price increases are absorbed by me.

On my Masons he carries any increase in labor cost or rework.

For example it’s raining now and they were doing excavation earlier. I expect them to redo some excavation and I shouldn’t hear about it.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Muyi002(m): 9:43pm On Sep 12, 2020
amosblisz:
How much would it cost me wood work to roof a 4 bedroom all ensuite and a detached self contained bungalow. My Engr is saying btwn 500k to 600k for wood works alone,I honestly don't want to be cheated

Mine is a 4 bedroom flat and I bought this �
Steptiles aluminum
Roofing
Woods
2x6 = 145pcs @ 750 = 1108750 (special)
2x4 = 400pcs @ 450 = 180000 (special)
2x3 = 500pcs @ 350 = 175000 (special)
2x3 = 200pcs @ 240 = 48000 (Solo) logging
4" Nail = 3 bags @8000 = 26000
3" Nail = 1 bag @ 8000 = 8000
2½" Nail = 1½ Bags @ 9000 = 9000
Chemicals = 14000
transport = 20000
Total = 590000
Workmanship = 125000
Total = 715,000

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:47pm On Sep 12, 2020
QSFemi:
Building and any other construction job is a contract either willfully entered into or not. The moment a contractor or builder submits a quotation to undertake a job for a client in exchange of remuneration, a contract is already established that's binding on both parties - client and contractor.

The reality of this scenario will come to limelight when there is a disagreement or dispute between both parties. So, a contractor's quote, project working drawings, specifications are all contract documents tenable in a arbitration or even formal court.

That's why clients and contractors are encouraged to engage the right professionals for every suitable of the project during pre-construction (pre-contract) and during and after-construction (post contract.

A typical scenario:

A and contractor entered into a contract unwittingly, say in March, before the dire consequences of Covid-19. The client pays 30% of the contract sum to the contractor as mobilization fee. Due to Covid-19, construction was suspended for about 4 months. Now, construction is about to be resumed on site and the contractor discovered that prices of virtually all materials needed have hiked by over 15% as against his quote.

Question:

Who bear the responsibility of this increase?


The terms of engagement determines who bear the brunt.

If the contract is to “supply, install and test/commission” a project, timely delivery of materials is very critical.

Late delivery of materials can lead to project delay and cost overrun in some other cases and such is not treated as an excusable delay.

For us at NextHome, we always factor in excusable delays (sickness, accident, pandemic, disputes, or even omo onile wahala) into every contract.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by omanzo02: 9:50pm On Sep 12, 2020
michlins:
here's what you're forgetting, Trump and America drives every part of this world. Should Trump win, many like him will win in their respective nations. If you remember, during the last national convention of the Republican party at which Trump formally accepted the company flag, the highlight of it was the party celebrating rollback of many Obama era environmental policies

Tell that to common China who has made mockery of so called America drive the world jingle. grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:59pm On Sep 12, 2020
n3xt:



The terms of engagement determines who bear the brunt.

If the contract is to “supply, install and test/commission” a project, timely delivery of materials is very critical.

Late delivery of materials can lead to project delay and cost overrun in some other cases and such is not treated as an excusable delay.

For us at NextHome, we always factor in excusable delay (sickness, accident, pandemic, disputes, or even omo onile wahala) into every contract.


QSFemi

We always have this clearly written in every contract. No one have x-ray vision.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by aghaibiam(f): 10:06pm On Sep 12, 2020
Please help me out with ideas on how I can minimize cost on tiling of my 4 bedroom apartment.I need advice on how to reduce cost of tiling.The tiling area is approximate 300sqm.I am based in fct.is it advisable to tile only the kitchen floor and leave the wall bare?
I have screeded the kitchen already.
For the toilet,can I do half wall tiling?
I really need to save cost so as to have money to do toilets fittings and lightning
What materials do I need for tiling to be complete?
My tiling budget is 750k can it finish the work?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by amosblisz: 10:14pm On Sep 12, 2020
Muyi002:


Mine is a 4 bedroom flat and I bought this �
Steptiles aluminum
Roofing
Woods
2x6 = 145pcs @ 750 = 1108750 (special)
2x4 = 400pcs @ 450 = 180000 (special)
2x3 = 500pcs @ 350 = 175000 (special)
2x3 = 200pcs @ 240 = 48000 (Solo) logging
4" Nail = 3 bags @8000 = 26000
3" Nail = 1 bag @ 8000 = 8000
2½" Nail = 1½ Bags @ 9000 = 9000
Chemicals = 14000
transport = 20000
Total = 590000
Workmanship = 125000
Total = 715,000

I believe yours is 4bedroom all ensuite?

How much did you get your step tiles roofing sheets per square meter and how many where they in numbers?

Is it 0.45 or 0.55 guage of step tiles?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 10:18pm On Sep 12, 2020
omanzo02:


Tell that to common China who has made mockery of so called America drive the world jingle. grin
a single policy from Trump killed one of the most technological advanced conglomerate from China. Trump singlehandedly killed Huawei mobile division. Now it's going after the network biz. Their inability to source chips from TSMC rendered the company and their 5G expansion plans into comatose. Many North American and European countries are currently boycotting Huawei.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Muyi002(m): 10:23pm On Sep 12, 2020
amosblisz:


I believe yours is 4bedroom all ensuite?

How much did you get your step tiles roofing sheets per square meter and how many where they in numbers?

Is it 0.45 or 0.55 guage of step tiles?

Yeah, it's ensuite.

A contractor on nairaland has proposed 2200 per sqm for 0.55. However I am seeing another person who will purchase from Lagos at 2000. What I have is a total of 400sqm

I am doing my findings carefully.

Below are my calculations
Aluminium -Step tiles from Lagos
General 0.55mm = 400sqm @ 2200/ 2000= 880000/800000
Ridge Cap = 70 metres @ 800 = 48000
Gutter Valley = 10 metres @ 800 = 8000
Parafet = 6 metres @ 800 = 4800
Nails and other accessories = 25000
White 11/32 = 3 lengths @ 1000 = 3000
Transport = 50000

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by amosblisz: 10:41pm On Sep 12, 2020
Muyi002:


Yeah, it's ensuite.

A contractor on nairaland has proposed 2200 per sqm for 0.55. However I am seeing another person who will purchase from Lagos at 2000. What I have is a total of 400sqm

I am doing my findings carefully.

Below are my calculations
Aluminium -Step tiles from Lagos
General 0.55mm = 400sqm @ 2200/ 2000= 880000/800000
Ridge Cap = 70 metres @ 800 = 48000
Gutter Valley = 10 metres @ 800 = 8000
Parafet = 6 metres @ 800 = 4800
Nails and other accessories = 25000
White 11/32 = 3 lengths @ 1000 = 3000
Transport = 50000

Dis was very helpful,by chance is the contractor Imran roofing? Seems you're located in the south far away base on the cost of transportation?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Muyi002(m): 10:53pm On Sep 12, 2020
amosblisz:


Dis was very helpful,by chance is the contractor Imran roofing? Seems you're located in the south far away base on the cost of transportation?

Yes. My location is Ilorin.
Transport is being negotiated and hoping to get it @ 50k
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 11:31pm On Sep 12, 2020
That's a smart clause, boss.


n3xt:


QSFemi

We always have this clearly written in every contract. No one have x-ray vision.

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