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Re: Prophetic Fulfillment In Israel . Jews Are Preaching Jesus To Jews by MuttleyLaff: 11:20pm On Sep 20, 2020
edoairways:
Mr man Christ called us to preach the good news not to scatter like you are doing.
"13It was nearly time for the Jewish Passover celebration, so Jesus went to Jerusalem.
14In the Temple area he saw merchants selling cattle, sheep, and doves for sacrifices;
He also saw dealers at tables exchanging foreign money.
15Jesus made a whip from some ropes and chased them all out of the Temple.
He drove out the sheep and cattle, scattered the money changers’ coins over the floor, and turned over their tables.
"
- John 2:13-15

Preaching the good news terrain, comes with scattering the scatterable.

Young man, you seem to be suffering from biblical amnesia, why not, read John 2:13-15 above, with focus on verse 15, so to refreshen your memory. It is posters like you that let the faith be in a state of rot because of your complacency

Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ never forbid us not to judge, but actually advised us how to judge, as in meaning, how to judge righteously. So whats the point, it is Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ judged, John the Baptist judged and the apostles judged.

Now let me find out how well you know your Bible. What does Luke 17:3, 1 Timothy 5:20 say, or even Titus 2:15 especially, noting the last sentence in that verse?
Re: Prophetic Fulfillment In Israel . Jews Are Preaching Jesus To Jews by edoairways: 11:25pm On Sep 20, 2020
Bodydialect57:
And this is the Good news



And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Isaiah. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because, he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted,, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
Luke4:16-19


And this was what Jesus said that believers should do

"He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation'" Mark 16:15,

"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age" Matthew 28:19-20.
These are what Jesus commanded not searching for false prophets.
Re: Prophetic Fulfillment In Israel . Jews Are Preaching Jesus To Jews by edoairways: 11:26pm On Sep 20, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
"13It was nearly time for the Jewish Passover celebration, so Jesus went to Jerusalem.
14In the Temple area he saw merchants selling cattle, sheep, and doves for sacrifices;
He also saw dealers at tables exchanging foreign money.
15Jesus made a whip from some ropes and chased them all out of the Temple.
He drove out the sheep and cattle, scattered the money changers’ coins over the floor, and turned over their tables.
"
- John 2:13-15

Preaching the good news terrain, comes with scattering the scatterable.

Young man, you seem to be suffering from biblical amnesia, why not, read John 2:13-15 above, with focus on verse 15, so to refreshen your memory. It is posters like you that let the faith be in a state of rot because of your complacency

Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ never forbid us not to judge, but actually advised us how to judge, as in meaning, how to judge righteously. So whats the point, it is Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ judged, John the Baptist judged and the apostles judged.

Now let me find out how well you know your Bible. What does Luke 17:3, 1 Timothy 5:20 say, or even Titus 2:15 especial, noting the last sentence in that verse?
Mr man you are scattering. I don't need to prove to you anything Mr Jehovah witness
Re: Prophetic Fulfillment In Israel . Jews Are Preaching Jesus To Jews by MuttleyLaff: 12:08am On Sep 21, 2020
edoairways:
Mr man you are scattering.
I make no apology for scattering, scattering thorns for those walking barefooted. The thing is, we learned from history, that time is a snitch, time tells and with time, the grossest deception do eventually get exposed, if scattering doesnt get to exposing it, first

edoairways:
I don't need to prove to you anything ...
Young man, no one asked that you need to prove to anyone anything. You were asked to reveal what Luke 17:3, 1 Timothy 5:20 says, or even Titus 2:15, but especially, noting the last sentence in that Titus 2:15 verse

edoairways:
... Mr Jehovah witness
Look at you, clutching at straws, trying to define me.
Re: Prophetic Fulfillment In Israel . Jews Are Preaching Jesus To Jews by jamesid29(m): 1:08am On Sep 21, 2020
MuttleyLaff:


Moses did not blatantly disobey God by marrying outside his tribe. Mariam did not get punished for challenging Moses

You do not understand that Miriam was punished for being petty, jealous and a racist. Of course, Zipporah, was Midianite, but Miriam was trying to be nasty, spiteful and hurtful in a derogatory way, hence the reason why she deliberating called Zipporah, a Cushite. It is like, when racists, calls a black man, a nigger. The punishment to reset her brain to factory default settings was for her skin to go all white, lmso. Sebi, she doesnt like dark skinned people, maybe she'll like being white then.
Smiles... Aaron and Miriam were petty and jealous, yes... but racist, naa (atleast not in the way you're thinking of racism). You see, ancient people did not divide races into black and white and look at people of darker skin as less because of their skin colour. That way of thinking is more of a modern construct that was especially intensified during the transatlantic slave trade as a justification for what they were doing. People didn't think like that in the ancient world,not even during the greco-roman period(skin colour really didn't play a role in the subjugation of people).
What they did have though,was a sense of nationality. Especially for the children of Isreal,who considered and knew themselves to be a special people ( A chosen people of God). In that sense, anybody outside of that unique identity would be considered an outsider (even though they had multiple laws telling them to treat the resident foreigner just like they would treat a fellow isrealite). So here Cushite would refer to Cushan which was interchangeable with Midian (Hab 3:7) at the time... and not Cush(area South of Egypt down to east Africa).

So yeah, Miriam and Aaron were being petty and trying to undermine Moses authority by using intermarriage to an outsider as an excuse, but being called a Cushite is not being racist in the same way of calling someone a Nigger. (That's more of a post biblical concept)

Another thing to note is that, the text itself doesn't specify that it was Zipporah that was being addressed here. People just generally assume that it's her because we're told of her in Exodus 2:21,so basically she's just graft her into this story. But it does not necessarily follow though. The lady here could be a new wife of Moses (one of the people who came out with them from Egypt), this is the more straight forward way of reading the text. The scriptures itself gives very little information about Moses's personal and family life.

In either case,the Bible doesn't seem to dwell on it, as their excuse was superficial anyway. The Bible mainly dwells on the real reason for the outburst (which was challenging Moses's authority/standing ) as seen by God's reply in Num 12:4-10 .
Re: Prophetic Fulfillment In Israel . Jews Are Preaching Jesus To Jews by MuttleyLaff: 3:56am On Sep 21, 2020
jamesid29:
Smiles...
I am chuffed finding you smiling. Let's see for how long though. Smiles ...

jamesid29:
Aaron and Miriam were petty and jealous, yes... but racist, naa (at least not in the way you're thinking of racism)
Aaron and Miriam already have been jealous that Zipporah had the Bridegroom of blood revelation of whom the person of Yahshua Ha Mashiach is. The other gripe they had is detailed in Exodus chapter 11 where there was a devolution of power upon the advice given to Moshe aka Moses, by his father-in-law, Jethro, of course, the father of Zipporah. What broke Aaron and Miriam's camel's back that fuelled more the flame, was the event in Numbers chapter 11 of the appointment of 70 elders where God took some of the Spirit that was on Moses and placed that Spirit on the seventy elders. This further devolution of power and the 70 elders prophesying tipped Aaron and Miriam over the edge, and really got them incensed, that the intro of Numbers chapter 12 started with them having a go at Moses, but getting back at him through bad-mouthing Zipporah, his wife and hence the racial slur.

jamesid29:
You see, ancient people did not divide races into black and white and look at people of darker skin as less because of their skin colour. That way of thinking is more of a modern construct that was especially intensified during the transatlantic slave trade as a justification for what they were doing. People didn't think like that in the ancient world, not even during the greco-roman period (skin colour really didn't play a role in the subjugation of people).

What they did have though, was a sense of nationality. Especially for the children of Isreal, who considered and knew themselves to be a special people (A chosen people of God). In that sense, anybody outside of that unique identity would be considered an outsider (even though they had multiple laws telling them to treat the resident foreigner just like they would treat a fellow isrealite). So here Cushite would refer to Cushan which was interchangeable with Midian (Hab 3:7) at the time... and not Cush (area South of Egypt down to east Africa).
I do remember advising that when my posts are posted, interlocutors shouldn't again, ever, jump on them and/or automatically mention me in them. Better still, dont even, ever consider reading them, talkless respond to any, because most interlocutors, just chomp my posts, biting off far more than they can chew, this apart from, trying to take in, that which is, too difficult for weak stomachs to handle and will only end up with having stomach severe pains.

I typed of someone deliberately calling someone an ethnic group she isn't, and you are going on about black and white. Who said anything about anyone looking at people of darker skin as less because of their skin colour? Are you trying to tell things, I already know or what? Where from in my post, did you conjure up subjugation from. Smh.

Now if you want to play a double whammy semantic conflating Cushite with Cushan and the proof-texting using Habakkuk 3:7 cards, that's cool

If you disagree that from biblical and historical usage, the term "Cushite(s)" does not refer to the Nubian people group, area South of Egypt down to East African origin, then please give another instance apart from your star Habakkuk 3:7 isolated verse of the word "Cushan" ever used elsewhere to refer to “Cush/Cushites" in the Bible

jamesid29:
So yeah, Miriam and Aaron were being petty and trying to undermine Moses authority by using intermarriage to an outsider as an excuse, but being called a Cushite is not being racist in the same way of calling someone a Nigger. (That's more of a post biblical concept)
Contextomy at play here, when what I actually typed was "Miriam ... she deliberating called Zipporah, a Cushite. It is like, when racists, calls a black man, a nigger." The difference is clear in what I exactly typed and mean to what you chose to misrepresent what I typed to.

If you, knowing you are a black man, a white person, direct to your face, point blankly decided, to call you, nigger. What comes to your mind about that person for unapologetically with intent to hurt, calling you a nigger, hmm? Knowing fully well you aren't a nigger. What would you say the person is or calling you a nigger? Would it be racist or tolerant person?

jamesid29:
Another thing to note is that, the text itself doesn't specify that it was Zipporah that was being addressed here. People just generally assume that it's her because we're told of her in Exodus 2:21, so basically she's just graft her into this story. But it does not necessarily follow though.
Of course Miriam just drafted her in because she has been seething from day one that Zipporah had the Bridegroom with blood revelation, the gift of the 70 elders prophesying opened up an old wound, broke her camel's back, she couldn't hold in any longer, that she just let go, erupting. Zipporah, Moses' wife was a low hanging fruit for her to pick on to throw at Moses

jamesid29:
.... The lady here could be a new wife of Moses (one of the people who came out with them from Egypt), this is the more straight forward way of reading the text. The scriptures itself gives very little information about Moses's personal and family life.
So, in short, you rather, your account be taken as more plausible right, hmm, lmso? You think it was only Aaron and Miriam, that were jealous, right, abi? You just made me laugh. Smh. Joshua had the good sense, not to talk out of turn but ask whether he should shut up the prophesying seventy elders, smh. You just havent the clue, lmso

jamesid29:
In either case, the Bible doesn't seem to dwell on it, as their excuse was superficial anyway. The Bible mainly dwells on the real reason for the outburst (which was challenging Moses's authority/standing ) as seen by God's reply in Num 12:4-10
You've merely just reinforced one of my earlier points, that Keturah, just like Zipporah, are sets out of the most ignored significant women in the Bible, and that the Bible doesnt at all dwell or bother to waste ink on, giving an air impression of lack of interest, stand-offishness and/or indifference. Maybe because after all we lived/live in a patriarchal/ man's world and/or even patristic exegesis.

Anyway, be busy there, as usual, as you proof-text with Num 12:4-10, OK? Wehdone Sir!

Have you reviewed Numbers chapter 11 right up to Numbers 12:1-2 at all, so to examine the build up and backdrop that led to Miriam's outburst, huh? Smh, go back nah to reading the whole Numbers chapter 11 and then after, return to paste here what Numbers 11:14-17 and Numbers 11:25-29 in black and white prints, so we do a peer review together with what you paste
Re: Prophetic Fulfillment In Israel . Jews Are Preaching Jesus To Jews by edoairways: 8:24am On Sep 21, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
I make no apology for scattering, scattering thorns for those walking barefooted. The thing is, we learned from history, that time is a snitch, time tells and with time, the grossest deception do eventually get exposed, if scattering doesnt get to exposing it, first

Young man, no one asked that you need to prove to anyone anything. You were asked to reveal what Luke 17:3, 1 Timothy 5:20 says, or even Titus 2:15, but especially, noting the last sentence in that Titus 2:15 verse

Look at you, clutching at straws, trying to define me.

I don't need your apology because that is the fruit you bear. That is how JW are right from time hence I wasn't surprised when I saw some of your comments.

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Re: Prophetic Fulfillment In Israel . Jews Are Preaching Jesus To Jews by Nobody: 8:59am On Sep 21, 2020
Okay!
Now answer these questions:
How do you make disciples?
Where are these disciples you want to make?
Are they idle where they are?
Don't they have masters they hold allegiance to before you attempt making them disciples?
Will their master, who they hold allegiance to allow you take them away without a fight?

Please read Matthew 12:29 and meditate as you attempt to answer those questions.
edoairways:

And this was what Jesus said that believers should do

"He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation'" Mark 16:15,

"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age" Matthew 28:19-20.
These are what Jesus commanded not searching for false prophets.


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Re: Prophetic Fulfillment In Israel . Jews Are Preaching Jesus To Jews by MuttleyLaff: 10:07pm On Sep 21, 2020
edoairways:
I don't need your apology because that is the fruit you bear.
[img]https://s1/images/MuttAmin.gif[/img]
Who dash m _ _ _ _ y, banana?
Yinmu, look at this one
Who ever gave you an apology, that you think you dont need, huh?

edoairways:
That is how JW are right from time hence I wasn't surprised when I saw some of your comments.
I am not anything like you, pretending to be someone you're not. You havent a strong stomach nor the cerebral capacity to receive the so called, some of my comments
Re: Prophetic Fulfillment In Israel . Jews Are Preaching Jesus To Jews by jamesid29(m): 3:04am On Sep 22, 2020
MuttleyLaff:

Aaron and Miriam already have been jealous that Zipporah had the Bridegroom of blood revelation of whom the person of Yahshua Ha Mashiach is. The other gripe they had is detailed in Exodus chapter 11 where there was a devolution of power upon the advice given to Moshe aka Moses, by his father-in-law, Jethro, of course, the father of Zipporah. What broke Aaron and Miriam's camel's back that fuelled more the flame, was the event in Numbers chapter 11 of the appointment of 70 elders where God took some of the Spirit that was on Moses and placed that Spirit on the seventy elders. This further devolution of power and the 70 elders prophesying tipped Aaron and Miriam over the edge, and really got them incensed, that the intro of Numbers chapter 12 started with them having a go at Moses, but getting back at him through bad-mouthing Zipporah, his wife and hence the racial slur.
@bolded is the only bone of contention at the moment sir.



I do remember advising that when my posts are posted, interlocutors shouldn't again, ever, jump on them and/or automatically mention me in them. Better still, dont even, ever consider reading them, talkless respond to any, because most interlocutors, just chomp my posts, biting off far more than they can chew, this apart from, trying to take in, that which is, too difficult for weak stomachs to handle and will only end up with having stomach severe pains.
smiley,Bro, The whole point of a public forum is for people to be part of a public discourse which includes joining public threads and mentioning people to air your thoughts. If you wanted a private conversation,you shouldn't be here.
Secondly, you are basically interlocking as you said on another persons conversation yourself, because I do not see any special invitation extended to you by the OP before you joined this thread with your opinions and mentions. I'm pretty sure if we check other threads you are engaged in,we would find a similar pattern.

I typed of someone deliberately calling someone an ethnic group she isn't, and you are going on about black and white. Who said anything about anyone looking at people of darker skin as less because of their skin colour? Are you trying to tell things, I already know or what?
You literally said being identified as a Cushite was meant to be derogatory as calling someone a nigger, as stated by your comments below
MuttleyLaff
Miriam was trying to be nasty, spiteful and hurtful in a derogatory way, hence the reason why she deliberating called Zipporah, a Cushite. It is like, when racists, calls a black man, a nigger. The punishment to reset her brain to factory default settings was for her skin to go all white, lmso. Sebi, she doesnt like dark skinned people, maybe she'll like being white then.

The question is, why do you think being identified as a Cushite is equivalent to being called a nigger today?
- Where are you getting that concept from?
- We all know why nigger is offensive. So how is being identified as a Cushite considered a racial slur equivalent to being called a nigger?
- Why would Miriam not like a dark skinned person as you said above in the bolded? What would be the rationale?

Now if you want to play a double whammy semantic conflating Cushite with Cushan and the proof-texting using Habakkuk 3:7 cards, that's cool

The whole point of Hab 3:7 is to show that if Zipporah was the wife being referred to here,then we still have biblical basis to understand why she was identified as a Cushite...even the Septuagint renders Hab 3:7 as Ethiopia in its translation. As I said in my previous post though, the most natural way of reading the text would be to see it as a referent to a different lady.


If you disagree that from biblical and historical usage, the term "Cushite(s)" does not refer to the Nubian people group, area South of Egypt down to East African origin, then please give another instance apart from your star Habakkuk 3:7 isolated verse of the word "Cushan" ever used elsewhere to refer to “Cush/Cushites" in the Bible
Smiles.. boss,when did I disagree that it doesn't equally refer to that region. You basically took this sentence "area South of Egypt down to East African origin" from my previous post
[quote=jamesid29]Cush(area South of Egypt down to east Africa).[/quote]
If we weren't in agreement on that, I wouldn't have made that statement. What was being shown is that even though that is the general territory,it's not always cut and dry and the Bible does sometimes place the land outside of Africa, and in this case interchangeable with Midian.
There are many words that are only used once or once in context in the Bible so saying it's an isolated case is not good enough.Its the context in which it is used that determine how to approach it.

Anyway,besides Habakkuk, the Bible and ancient sources do sometimes place Cushites in a wider area than just Africa. The table of nations in Gen 10:7(1 chron 1:9) list the descendants of Cush: Seba, Havilah, Sabta, Raama and Sabteca; and the sons of Raamah were Sheba and Dedan... Seba is located in Africa as expected by various sources even outside of the Bible ,but the other names of Cush's descendants are generally accepted to be located not in Africa but in the southern and southwestern part of the Arabian peninsula. Historically there was always a movement across the Red sea and the Sinai peninsula between Africa and Arabia. The biblical concept that informed the table of nations, therefore, that the people on both sides of the Red sea are ethnically related and descended from the same Cushite stock reflects this historical situation. We also see this conception in classical antiquity by people like Strabo and even Herodotus using the term Arabia to denote the area across the Red sea down to the Nile. The same conception is held in the Palestinian Targums which translates Cush in 1chron 1:8 as Arabia. Likewise, in Herodotus description of the various ethnic units of Xerxes army,he places the Cushites and the Arabs in one unit under on commander.
Also 2chron 21:16 places Cushites as a neighbours to the Arabs. This people group are generally considered to be a semi-nomadic group located in the Negev or on the southern border of Isreal mentioned in middle Egyptian execration text.
There are a few other biblical text that place Cushites outside of Africa. So basically Cush can generally refer to a people group on both sides of the Red sea in ancient times.

The real question is where are you getting being identified as a Cushite as a racial slur equivalent to being identified as a nigger by a white person from?

Contextomy at play here, when what I actually typed was "Miriam ... she deliberating called Zipporah, a Cushite. It is like, when racists, calls a black man, a nigger." The difference is clear in what I exactly typed and mean to what you chose to misrepresent what I typed to.
As alluded to earlier,why would you think being identified as a Cushite be equivalent to being called a nigger?
Is identifying Ruth as a Moabite in any way racist?

If you, knowing you are a black man, a white person, direct to your face, point blankly decided, to call you, nigger. What comes to your mind about that person for unapologetically with intent to hurt, calling you a nigger, hmm? Knowing fully well you aren't a nigger. What would you say the person is or calling you a nigger? Would it be racist or tolerant person?
There's no where in the text that says that the lady (whoever she was) was called a Cushite to her face (as you are trying to paint) or even confronted..Nothing in the text comes close to the scenerio you are painting.

Then Miriam and Aaron spoke against Moses because of the Cushite woman whom he had married (for he had married a Cushite woman); and they said, “Has the Lord indeed spoken only through Moses? Has He not spoken through us as well?” And the Lord heard it.
Numbers 12:1-2 NASB
Basically as I said earlier

jamesid29
So yeah, Miriam and Aaron were being petty and trying to undermine Moses authority by using intermarriage to an outsider as an excuse, but being called a Cushite is not being racist in the same way of calling someone a Nigger. (That's more of a post biblical concept)
Intermarriage here would encompass any foreigner regardless of race. The identification as a Cushite was to identify her as not being native isrealite and not as a racial slur like calling a black person nigger, as is the picture you are trying to paint.

Of course Miriam just drafted her in because she has been seething from day one that Zipporah had the Bridegroom with blood revelation
Where are you getting the bolded from?

I guess you misunderstood the thought, as you broke that paragraph up,
Here's the complete thought again unbroken
[quote= jamesid29]Another thing to note is that, the text itself doesn't specify that it was Zipporah that was being addressed here. People just generally assume that it's her because we're told of her in Exodus 2:21,so basically she's just grafted into this story. But it does not necessarily follow though. The lady here could be a new wife of Moses (one of the people who came out with them from Egypt), this is the more straight forward way of reading the text. The scriptures itself gives very little information about Moses's personal and family life.[/quote]


So, in short, you rather, your account be taken as more plausible right, hmm, lmso?
It doesn't have to. Just that the text itself in no way forces us to believe that Zipporah was the one being referred here.

You've merely just reinforced one of my earlier points, that Keturah, just like Zipporah, are sets out of the most ignored significant women in the Bible, and that the Bible doesnt at all dwell or bother to waste ink on, giving an air impression of lack of interest, stand-offishness and/or indifference. Maybe because after all we lived/live in a patriarchal/ man's world and/or even patristic exegesis.

Anyway, be busy there, as usual, as you proof-text with Num 12:4-10, OK? Wehdone Sir!
smiley... Again boss, you are introducing something foreign into the text. The text was about Moses's siblings challenging his authority and that's what the text deals with. Adding racism(atleast the type you are advocating by equating it to modern forms of racism) and patriarchy into the text is reading something into the it that isn't part of it.


Have you reviewed Numbers chapter 11 right up to Numbers 12:1-2 at all, so to examine the build up and backdrop that led to Miriam's outburst, huh? Smh, go back nah to reading the whole Numbers chapter 11 and then after, return to paste here what Numbers 11:14-17 and Numbers 11:25-29 in black and white prints, so we do a peer review together with what you paste
smiley.... The events leading up to the narrative has never been up for debate boss.
The conversation is limited to:
MuttleyLaff
Moses did not blatantly disobey God by marrying outside his tribe. Mariam did not get punished for challenging Moses

You do not understand that Miriam was punished for being petty, jealous and a racist. Of course, Zipporah, was Midianite, but Miriam was trying to be nasty, spiteful and hurtful in a derogatory way, hence the reason why she deliberating called Zipporah, a Cushite. It is like, when racists, calls a black man, a nigger. The punishment to reset her brain to factory default settings was for her skin to go all white, lmso. Sebi, she doesnt like dark skinned people, maybe she'll like being white then
And my original reply was
jamesid29
Aaron and Miriam were petty and jealous, yes... but racist, naa (at least not in the way you're thinking of racism)
Re: Prophetic Fulfillment In Israel . Jews Are Preaching Jesus To Jews by MuttleyLaff: 6:46am On Sep 22, 2020
[img]https://s1/images/MuttAmin.gif[/img]

MuttleyLaff:
"It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings
(i.e. It is the glory of God to hide things but the glory of kings to investigate them.
God is praised for being mysterious; rulers are praised for explaining mysteries)
"
- Proverbs 25:2

"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name,
He will teach you all things and will bring to your remembrance all things that I have said to you.
"
- John 14:26

"But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth;
for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak;
and He will disclose to you what is to come
"
- John 16:13

I dont care what cop out you want to use, but the truth of the matter is that, the brain, isn't an ornament to decorate the body with, and so, we are blessed with this powerfully built processing functional gift for a purpose, reason and such a time as this
The bible, in that Proverbs 25:2 above, states that:
"It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings" or "It is God’s privilege to conceal things and the king’s privilege to discover them," so roll up your sleeves, pull out your fingers, stop sitting on your hands and get to work doing a 2 Timothy 2:15.

"Ise logun ise" loosely translated means "Work and/or study, cancels out lack of depth and its the remedy to reverse knowledge poverty with"

jamesid29, time isn't the best ally right no, but trust me, I will, asap revisit this thread, to turn your post to "shreds" smiles ....
Re: Prophetic Fulfillment In Israel . Jews Are Preaching Jesus To Jews by jamesid29(m): 9:59pm On Sep 22, 2020
MuttleyLaff:

[img]https://s1/images/MuttAmin.gif[/img]

The bible, in that Proverbs 25:2 above, states that:
"It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings" or "It is God’s privilege to conceal things and the king’s privilege to discover them," so roll up your sleeves, pull out your fingers, stop sitting on your hands and get to work doing a 2 Timothy 2:15.

"Ise logun ise" loosely translated means "Work and/or study, cancels out lack of depth and its the remedy to reverse knowledge poverty with"

jamesid29, time isn't the best ally right no, but trust me, I will, asap revisit this thread, to turn your post to "shreds" smiles ....

Lol @bolded... This has got be one of the weirdest replies I've seen in a while. Sounds like something a bond villain would say.

Anyways, I'll leave you to it then...
Re: Prophetic Fulfillment In Israel . Jews Are Preaching Jesus To Jews by MuttleyLaff: 4:01am On Sep 23, 2020
jamesid29:
Lol @bolded...
I am chuffed you shifted from smiles to lol. Let's see for how long though. lmso ...

jamesid29:
This has got be one of the weirdest replies I've seen in a while. Sounds like something a bond villain would say.
Make what you may out of it and continue to zero only on the less important of my comments, OK?

jamesid29:
Anyways, I'll leave you to it then...
I'll leave you with the below quote

"... and it's been my life's joy to dive into the history of biblical scholarship and learn.
Learn more about how the bible works and what ... what it's trying to say
"
- Tim Mackie, The Bible Project

Smh, being that I could see how you made a dog's dinner of your reply, and you ended up with a post that's chaotic, badly organized, very untidy, has a fake dead link to where you mentioned my ID et cetera, all because of you're bent on picking bone(s) and carping spree, purely for your own twisted truculent entertainment, I would single out and repeat the easy, direct, simple, harmless, innocent, straightforward questions you out of convenience ducked, which is:

If you, knowing you are a black man, and a white person, direct to your face, point blankly decided, to call you, nigger. What comes to your mind about that person for unapologetically with intent to hurt, calling you a nigger, hmm? Knowing fully well you aren't a nigger. What would you say the person, is, for calling you a nigger? Would it be racist person or tolerant person? Answer nah jamesid29, so I can move on, to do justice to, putting it mildly, your truculent post
Re: Prophetic Fulfillment In Israel . Jews Are Preaching Jesus To Jews by Nobody: 5:54am On Sep 23, 2020
edoairways:

Oga he is not Mr. I know what am saying. It is unchristian of you to judge when the speck in your eyes hasn't been removed. Instead of a Christian to protect the gospel which Christ mandate him,he goes to the internet to call a preacher fake. Muslims don't behave this way on the internet even though there are wolves among them ( Alfas)

Actually all Muslims are wolves. Those that have not shown the traits have just not have the opportunity.
Re: Prophetic Fulfillment In Israel . Jews Are Preaching Jesus To Jews by Nobody: 6:01am On Sep 23, 2020
edoairways:

You would cause more harm than good if you continue in this direction. Don't fight or dictate to God, let God fish them out. Moses disobeyed God by marrying outside his tribe yet Mariam got punished for challenging Moses.

That was the old testament where not everyone was called. Every born again Christian is called of God and can call out any hypocrisy etc. Why wasnt apostle Paul hit with problems for calling apostle Peter out for his hypocrisy in Galatians 2? They've really tied many Christians down with fear.
Re: Prophetic Fulfillment In Israel . Jews Are Preaching Jesus To Jews by Nobody: 6:07am On Sep 23, 2020
Bodydialect57:
Who am l to judge God's servants? I am referring to wolves in sheep clothing, impostors and charlatans.

You see it is the complacency of believers motivated by fear that has given room for the proliferation of fakeries. In Acts 16:16-18

And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:
17 The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which show unto us the way of salvation.
18 And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.


Apostle Paul, being able to discern the spirit that spoke through that damsel, rebuked and sent the spirit packing. If it were to be now, that damsel would of course be ordained as prophetess, a woman of God that should not be touched.

In the Acts of the Apostles, fakeries were not given room to thrive and this really helped the true Gospel to spread.

In this our time and age, a lot hide under "touch not my anointed" to perpetrated so much wickedness, and because many couldn't discern, they are swayed and tossed about believing every Dick, Tom and Harry are men of God.

There are too many false prophets and false teachers disguising as true ones.

You really hit the nail on the head. Shalom.

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Re: Prophetic Fulfillment In Israel . Jews Are Preaching Jesus To Jews by edoairways: 7:37am On Sep 23, 2020
HedwigesMaduro:


That was the old testament where not everyone was called. Every born again Christian is called of God and can call out any hypocrisy etc. Why wasnt apostle Paul hit with problems for calling apostle Peter out for his hypocrisy in Galatians 2? They've really tied many Christians down with fear.
God's word has not changed.
Re: Prophetic Fulfillment In Israel . Jews Are Preaching Jesus To Jews by edoairways: 7:39am On Sep 23, 2020
HedwigesMaduro:


Actually all Muslims are wolves. Those that have not shown the traits have just not have the opportunity.
That is why Islam is increasing in number because of these nonsense posted up there. Go read the history of Turkey
Re: Prophetic Fulfillment In Israel . Jews Are Preaching Jesus To Jews by Nobody: 8:34am On Sep 23, 2020
edoairways:

That is why Islam is increasing in number because of these nonsense posted up there. Go read the history of Turkey

Criminals are also increasing in number. What's your point?
Re: Prophetic Fulfillment In Israel . Jews Are Preaching Jesus To Jews by Nobody: 8:35am On Sep 23, 2020
edoairways:
God's word has not changed.
Ok... By the way when last did you do your animal sacrifice?
Re: Prophetic Fulfillment In Israel . Jews Are Preaching Jesus To Jews by petra1(m): 8:54am On Sep 23, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
"13It was nearly time for the Jewish Passover celebration, so Jesus went to Jerusalem.
14In the Temple area he saw merchants selling cattle, sheep, and doves for sacrifices;
He also saw dealers at tables exchanging foreign money.
15Jesus made a whip from some ropes and chased them all out of the Temple.
He drove out the sheep and cattle, scattered the money changers’ coins over the floor, and turned over their tables.
"
- John 2:13-15

Preaching the good news terrain, comes with scattering the scatterable.

Young man, you seem to be suffering from biblical amnesia, why not, read John 2:13-15 above, with focus on verse 15, so to refreshen your memory. It is posters like you that let the faith be in a state of rot because of your complacency

Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ never forbid us not to judge, but actually advised us how to judge, as in meaning, how to judge righteously. So whats the point, it is Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ judged, John the Baptist judged and the apostles judged.

You cant compare yourself to Christ. He was a prophet. He's not raising unruly son of belief. Secondly there are different kinds of judgement.
Discernment
Assessment
Condemnation etc. The context determines which ones.


edoairways:

Mr man Christ called us to preach the good news not to scatter like you are doing.

Wise counsel
Re: Prophetic Fulfillment In Israel . Jews Are Preaching Jesus To Jews by jamesid29(m): 6:47pm On Sep 23, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
I am chuffed you shifted from smiles to lol. Let's see for how long though. lmso ...

Make what you may out of it and continue to zero only on the less important of my comments, OK?

I'll leave you with the below quote

"... and it's been my life's joy to dive into the history of biblical scholarship and learn.
Learn more about how the bible works and what ... what it's trying to say
"
- Tim Mackie, The Bible Project

Smh, being that I could see how you made a dog's dinner of your reply, and you ended up with a post that's chaotic, badly organized, very untidy, has a fake dead link to where you mentioned my ID et cetera, all because of you're bent on picking bone(s) and carping spree, purely for your own twisted truculent entertainment, I would single out and repeat the easy, direct, simple, harmless, innocent, straightforward questions you out of convenience ducked, which is:

If you, knowing you are a black man, and a white person, direct to your face, point blankly decided, to call you, nigger. What comes to your mind about that person for unapologetically with intent to hurt, calling you a nigger, hmm? Knowing fully well you aren't a nigger. What would you say the person, is, for calling you a nigger? Would it be racist person or tolerant person? Answer nah jamesid29, so I can move on, to do justice to, putting it mildly, your truculent post
Hummm, okay.

When you have something actually worth reading, let me know....
Re: Prophetic Fulfillment In Israel . Jews Are Preaching Jesus To Jews by MuttleyLaff: 1:51am On Sep 24, 2020
jamesid29:
[s]Hummm, okay.
When you have something actually worth reading, let me know.... [/s]
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If you, knowing you are a black man, and a white person, direct to your face, point blankly decided, to call you, nigger. What comes to your mind about that person, for unapologetically with intent to hurt, calling you a nigger, hmm? Knowing fully well you aren't a nigger. What would you say the person, is, for calling you a nigger? Would it be racist person or tolerant person? Answer nah jamesid29, so I can move on, to do justice to, putting it mildly, your truculent post.

Answer the easy, direct, simple, harmless, innocent, straightforward questions you out of convenience keep ducking to answer instead of you preferring to spew this your trash here, I've just emptied angry angry angry

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