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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 2:10am On Sep 25, 2020
TheSuperNerd:
This is the guy that people here call "not teCHniCAl" grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGPUXuE-ges


Poor football knowledge mixed with hate is bad for health. And agreeing with the talk of Nacho not being technical simply you wanna sound "unbiased" is absolute bullcrap.

These clips "AGAIN" debunk all the rubbish and obviously ignorant yammerings about Iheanacho not being a technical player. I have seen funny comments and I have seen dumb comments. But now I see fun-dumb comments. grin

Enjoy. cool


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxzePya_oUE
Infact he actually isnt technical ataaalll. See the nonsense he dey play. No ball control, no vision, can't even take on defenders, isnt even comfy on the ball. Such a player, how did he find his way to the XI and sub bench? How? I need answer o. He just dey do body like chicken na.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by kellycute(m):
elyte89:
Oga Kelly will always hide under someone opinion...please answer oga 4giveness question grin
you are actually talking about yourself. Do you think I have time to drag issues with forgiveness? Someone that said mbappe need to prove himself in epl before he can rate him. That should tell you he doesn't know shinshin about football. He just blab and blab and use transfer market to cover his lack of football knowledge. Nacho is not a technical poor player. Technical player is a master of the technique of the game including shooting, passing, and dribbling. Nacho doesn't lack any of this aforementioned qualities especially in the area of shooting and making defence splitting pass. That was how you lot made a false statement on how nacho can't dribble until a video was posted which debunked y'all false statement and now y'all are on this same track yammering nonsense. Technical players to you mean someone that like to dilly dally on the ball like that mumu Madison or someone caressing the ball unnecessary according to y'all. Nacho can dribble, blast long range shot, make the final pass etc which hallmark of a technical player. Finito!!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by kellycute(m): 6:09am On Sep 25, 2020
TheSuperNerd:
And this is one of the videos posted by a moniker about one of Nacho's games in preseason.

Now tell me, can a player who isn't technical do this?? As in eh... The dumbness I see here in several is so thick. I wish I could be given the chance to lobotomise you all. Hahahahahahaha...

https://twitter.com/LBlcfc/status/1299736562050138116?s=19

Enough said. I think I have dropped more than enough evidence since most people love being shown evidence times and times again due to their poor memory or short memory issues.
to them, technical players caress the ball alot, or dance around the ball like gray, Madisson and Calum grin grin funny people!!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by iamdynamite(m): 6:25am On Sep 25, 2020
forgiveness:
Do they have one striker?
name the other striker they have...that is more expensive or prolific than lewandoski..then compare the situation with that of tammy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by nairalandankrah:
TheSuperNerd:
This is the guy that people here call "not teCHniCAl" grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGPUXuE-ges


Poor football knowledge mixed with hate is bad for health. And agreeing with the talk of Nacho not being technical simply you wanna sound "unbiased" is absolute bullcrap.

These clips "AGAIN" debunk all the rubbish and obviously ignorant yammerings about Iheanacho not being a technical player. I have seen funny comments and I have seen dumb comments. But now I see fun-dumb comments. grin

Enjoy. cool


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxzePya_oUE
Based on all this,Iheanacho should be a starter somewhere else..because RODGERS will NEVER PLAY HIM AHEAD OF VARDY ..
he may be technical, but his technicality is only good for leicester bench..
his constant choice to remain a utility/backup player in a midclass team shows he lacks serious ambition to me..
Poor advise from his agent there
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by timay(m): 7:20am On Sep 25, 2020
nairalandankrah:
Based on all this,Iheanacho should be a starter somewhere else..because RODGERS will NEVER PLAY HIM AHEAD OF VARDY..
he may be technical,but he lacks ambition to me..
A lot of we pro-Nacho who believed in his abilities have been clamouring for him to get a move away from Leicester to get game time, but it seems the guy is comfortable with his bench role. That is why a lot of us are tired of defending him, and if you notice, people are no more defending him like it used to be anymore during his early Leicester days.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by nairalandankrah:
Eizzy003:
Someone said it during 1 of leichester question and and answer game's
Hmmm nahwah..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 7:27am On Sep 25, 2020
Eizzy003:
U should no that Vardy and Ndidi are not actually friends though they are teammates they don't relate well, So Vardy response is not a surprise
How do u know they are not friends? I posted the interview and it was clearly how he saw Wilf's game and nothing to do with malice. Remember Vardy even wanted to learn pidgin a while ago.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by feelme2020: 7:29am On Sep 25, 2020
timay:
A lot of we pro-Nacho who believed in his abilities have been clamouring for him to get a move away from Leicester to get game time, but it seems the guy is comfortable with his bench role. That is why a lot of us are tired of defending him, and if you notice, people are no more defending him like it used to be anymore during his early Leicester days.
You voiced out my thoughts. I am tired. Let him stay at Leicester if he wants.
One thing i noticed is that Nigerian born or locally produced players seem to lack ambition.
They just want money. They don't want to break records and receive awards.
As long as they have money that is all.
Rohr is changing that mentality. I mean he stopped kalu from leaving Boardeax.
Rohr's attitude also made Henry Onyekuru to stay and fight for his place at Monaco. This is one of the good qualities of Rohr.
Some of the few ambitious home based players are Osimhen and tolu arokodare and a few others.
Im sure if it was one of the foreign born players, they will leave Leicester for somewhere where they will get game time.

Iheanacho has something to offer but i dont know if he has the drive and ambition to improve and be better.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by nairalandankrah: 7:31am On Sep 25, 2020
timay:
A lot of we pro-Nacho who believed in his abilities have been clamouring for him to get a move away from Leicester to get game time, but it seems the guy is comfortable with his bench role. That is why a lot of us are tired of defending him, and if you notice, people are no more defending him like it used to be anymore during his early Leicester days.
Im pro nacho but I'm fed up really..
It is so clear The coach doesn't rate him..
Perez plays worse but still plays week in/out
I don't know whether him and gray share same agent..bunch of ambition less creatures..
Agent be pocketing money at the detriment of the guys career..
Guy be waiting for vardy to become crippled before he will taste match..
Its rather unfortunate..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero47: 7:32am On Sep 25, 2020
feelme2020:
You voiced out my thoughts. I am tired. Let him stay at Leicester if he wants.
One thing i noticed is that Nigerian born or locally produced players seem to lack ambition.
They just want money. They don't want to break records and receive awards.
As long as they have money that is all.
Rohr is changing that mentality. I mean he stopped kalu from leaving Boardeax.
Rohr's attitude also made Henry Onyekuru to stay and fight for his place at Monaco. This is one of the good qualities of Rohr.
Some of the few ambitious home based players are Osimhen and tolu arokodare and a few others.
Im sure if it was one of the foreign born players, they will leave Leicester for somewhere where they will get game time.

Iheanacho has something to offer but i dont know if he has the drive and ambition to improve and be better.
Iheanacho is earning 80k per week and you want him to leave grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by nairalandankrah: 7:39am On Sep 25, 2020
timay:
A lot of we pro-Nacho who believed in his abilities have been clamouring for him to get a move away from Leicester to get game time, but it seems the guy is comfortable with his bench role. That is why a lot of us are tired of defending him, and if you notice, people are no more defending him like it used to be anymore during his early Leicester days.
There's a lot of confidence one gets through "playing lots of games". On the job experience is much more better than on the bench experience..we're talking about someone who we all had high hopes for.now this....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ChrisKels: 7:40am On Sep 25, 2020
TheSuperNerd:
It is not anyone's fault that you have lost patience with the lad. But allowing your frustrations and blasts from the lad's past (which he no longer lives in) to suddenly make false comments about Nacho's ability all in a bid to sound "unbiased" b'cos you used to talk up Nacho is actually still very wrong b'cos 19/20 season gave us a very solid Nacho who delivered superbly even when playing as a backup forward option to Vardy.

It is on the back of the 2019/2020 season and his very several fine performances that earned his a NT recall. So all this talk below is b'cos you are only letting your personal frustrations get the better of good judgment. Nothing true in all you have said.
Was that necessary? Well, bro I have seen Iheanacho enough, he is not getting any better. I even had to be lenient bkus I love the boy, but the truth must be said. Dude finds it difficult to sort out which foot to control a pass with, hence the ball always get stuck in between his legs. Kelechi is what we call a "turn over machine". Mind you, he is already losing that trait or quality(striking with precision) that once made him an outstanding player.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 8:05am On Sep 25, 2020
benji93:
My brother, i don't quite agree with the point that "Technical ability" is inborn. It can be developed, given a suitable environment. In your earlier post you singled out one quora post, but it wasn't the only answer to the question "what does a technical player mean". If you meant to say it's something you should have developed through your formatiive years, then that's probably correct. It's also important to note that one's technical ability can be enhanced by talent.Although they are sometimes subtle, you can tell when there's an input of talent beyond basic technique. Qualities such as vision are innate. It cannot be taught, only the end product of placing the pass can. To be honest it's better not to include vision as one of the qualities of a technical player. It doesn't put it in a suitable perspective. Moderately technical players may not have it, but yet they've got good technique. Technical players are usually midfielders, cos that's exactly where it's needed. And ofcourse some other categories of players an develop it as well. But yes you may be correct. Iheanacho is not technical, or he's well down the spectrum. Most midfielders players that are products of our environment are not technical. I don't think anyone will argue this. But i do not think he needs it as a striker or a supporting striker. Besides most players devote their time to develop their technique when they are lacking in other qualities such as strength, pace e.t.c. There are not a lot of players out there with at least three of basic technical ability,vision, strength and pace.
Mr brother environment has little or nothing to do with your technical ability we have seen many Africa players like yaya toure ,jay jay okocha ,mahrez, sallah,mane, aubmeyang, ziyech that are technically proficient players.
The truth of the matter is nacho is not technically proficient how would expect a player with 0.8 sucessful dribble per game and 7.0 possesion lost per game to be technically possesion most of his possession lost are as a result of his bad first touches.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by kellycute(m): 8:13am On Sep 25, 2020
nairalandankrah:
Based on all this,Iheanacho should be a starter somewhere else..because RODGERS will NEVER PLAY HIM AHEAD OF VARDY ..
he may be technical, but his technicality is only good for leicester bench..
his constant choice to remain a utility/backup player in a midclass team shows he lacks serious ambition to me..
Poor advise from his agent there
my only issue against nacho is that he is not ambitious enough because I don't see a reason why he is so comfortable to sit on the bench waiting for little opportunity from rodger. He should go somewhere else. He is too young to stay at a spot waiting for little crump from the table. Be assertive and proactive. This is his career for crying out loud.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by kellycute(m): 8:18am On Sep 25, 2020
timay:
A lot of we pro-Nacho who believed in his abilities have been clamouring for him to get a move away from Leicester to get game time, but it seems the guy is comfortable with his bench role. That is why a lot of us are tired of defending him, and if you notice, people are no more defending him like it used to be anymore during his early Leicester days.
you nailed it bro. That is why I said I have remove my hand off him because of this issue of acting "I don't care at all as long as I get little opportunity I'm content attitude". He can go out on loan but yet he just wana sit his ass on the bench and be shining his teeth. He deserve to play football week in week out but he need to go elsewhere where he will get game time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by kellycute(m): 8:27am On Sep 25, 2020
feelme2020:
You voiced out my thoughts. I am tired. Let him stay at Leicester if he wants.
One thing i noticed is that Nigerian born or locally produced players seem to lack ambition.
They just want money. They don't want to break records and receive awards.
As long as they have money that is all.
Rohr is changing that mentality. I mean he stopped kalu from leaving Boardeax.
Rohr's attitude also made Henry Onyekuru to stay and fight for his place at Monaco. This is one of the good qualities of Rohr.
Some of the few ambitious home based players are Osimhen and tolu arokodare and a few others.
Im sure if it was one of the foreign born players, they will leave Leicester for somewhere where they will get game time.

Iheanacho has something to offer but i dont know if he has the drive and ambition to improve and be better.
nacho has lost the drive and ambition. He used to be hunger for goal while he was in mancity. This kind of attitude can only come up when you decide to settle for less. You don't see reason to push further at all as long as you are "content" with whatever stuff you are content with, you tend to relax and just enjoy the flow. It is nauseating and I pray Osimhen should never lost that fire, drive and ambition. The difference between cr7 and messi when compare to other players is that they are never satisfied with their achievement especially cr7. Cr7 is the most ambition man ever. He want to succeed, he want to win, he want to keep making impact and if y'all don't stop him, he might even wanna play up to the age of 50 because he gat mad drive lol. Y'all know nacho is my fav anyday anytime but I need him to leave Leicester asap.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by kellycute(m): 8:30am On Sep 25, 2020
Subzero47:
Iheanacho is earning 80k per week and you want him to leave grin
money isn't everything joor. He should go elsewhere to play regularly and shine then better money will come.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:35am On Sep 25, 2020
benji93:
My brother, i don't quite agree with the point that "Technical ability" is inborn. It can be developed, given a suitable environment. In your earlier post you singled out one quora post, but it wasn't the only answer to the question "what does a technical player mean". If you meant to say it's something you should have developed through your formatiive years, then that's probably correct. It's also important to note that one's technical ability can be enhanced by talent.Although they are sometimes subtle, you can tell when there's an input of talent beyond basic technique. Qualities such as vision are innate. It cannot be taught, only the end product of placing the pass can. To be honest it's better not to include vision as one of the qualities of a technical player. It doesn't put it in a suitable perspective. Moderately technical players may not have it, but yet they've got good technique. Technical players are usually midfielders, cos that's exactly where it's needed. And ofcourse some other categories of players can develop it as well. But yes you may be correct. Iheanacho is not technical, or he's well down the spectrum. Most midfielders players that are products of our environment are not technical. I don't think anyone will argue this. But i do not think he needs it as a striker or a supporting striker. Besides most players devote their time to develop their technique when they are lacking in other qualities such as strength, pace e.t.c. There are not a lot of players out there with at least three of basic technical ability,vision, strength and pace.
There are some teams that require a high degree of technicality to just be in the team.

For instance tell me one forward or midfielder in Manchester City that is not high level technically astute.

And yes it can be taught but like education it starts at the foundation.

If you have opportunity visit the academy of Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester City to mention just a few and watch the training.

You will now understand why England is no longer producing kick and rush players that get into the National teams youth and senior.

However, in Africa we are still largely reliant on the natural attributes of pace, aggression and strength and that includes good degree of skill and touch.

However, to get to the highest levels in the modern game you will need more.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by kellycute(m): 8:36am On Sep 25, 2020
ChrisKels:
Was that necessary? Well, bro I have seen Iheanacho enough, he is not getting any better. I even had to be lenient bkus I love the boy, but the truth must be said. Dude finds it difficult to sort out which foot to control a pass with, hence the ball always get stuck in between his legs. Kelechi is what we call a "turn over machine". [b]Mind you, he is already losing that trait or quality(striking with precision) that once made him an [/b]outstanding player.
of course he will definitely lose his precision in front of goal because he doesn't play regular football no more.lamarck theory of use and disuse come to mind. Nacho need to leave Leicester and move elsewhere for game time. He can even go on loan. He need a sit down with rodger and demand to be send out on loan cos he want to play but instead he show up to training with smiling face and sit on the bench smiling at everyone. He is still a good player but he need to play!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:38am On Sep 25, 2020
nairalandankrah:
Im pro nacho but I'm fed up really..
It is so clear The coach doesn't rate him..
Perez plays worse but still plays week in/out
I don't know whether him and gray share same agent..bunch of ambition less creatures..
Agent be pocketing money at the detriment of the guys career..
Guy be waiting for vardy to become crippled before he will taste match..
Its rather unfortunate..
Perez is better than KC it's not a matter of debate, he is TECHNICALLY SUPERIOR by a large margin.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Sheyishemmba: 9:00am On Sep 25, 2020
TheSuperNerd:
This is the guy that people here call "not teCHniCAl" grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGPUXuE-ges


Poor football knowledge mixed with hate is bad for health. And agreeing with the talk of Nacho not being technical simply you wanna sound "unbiased" is absolute bullcrap.

These clips "AGAIN" debunk all the rubbish and obviously ignorant yammerings about Iheanacho not being a technical player. I have seen funny comments and I have seen dumb comments. But now I see fun-dumb comments. grin

Enjoy. cool


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxzePya_oUE
Mr nerdy permit me to call you an ogogoro joint analyst who is devoid of football knowledge.
Mr nerdy how can you judge a player by a YouTube clip of 3 minutes grin ( that quite funny IMO) according to sofa score nacho loses possession 7.0 per game he clocked 960 minutes last season in premier league mathematically nacho loses possession 7 times in 137 minutes and according to his stat most of his possession lost are as a result of poor first touches while few are as a result of clearance et al come here and shalaye how a technical proficient player will be having bad first touches
Nacho also have successful dribble rate of 0.8 per game which 56% successful biko is that the stat of a typical pirlo or ronaldihno
My Broda wake stop being ignorant. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by kellycute(m): 9:04am On Sep 25, 2020
komekn:
Perez is better than KC it's not a matter of debate, he is TECHNICALLY SUPERIOR by a large margin.
back it up with stat. I'm waiting
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by benji93: 9:15am On Sep 25, 2020
Perhaps you can provide a source to this effect. One of the quora answers in the article you referred to suggests otherwise. How many technical African players can you count, Nigerians especially? Egypt obviously has systems that emphasize the development of technical skills, the reason for which they dominated the other African teams, which consisted of talents that depended on pace, strength and dribbling. Techical abilities are mostly revealed in decision making, something you can learn. You can learn to make better decisions in the build up, but it must have been something you have been doing for a long time. You seem to lump up a bunch different abilities into the technical basket. cheesy.
sheyishemba:
Mr brother environment has little or nothing to do with your technical ability we have seen many Africa players like yaya toure ,jay jay okocha ,mahrez, sallah,mane, aubmeyang, ziyech that are technically proficient players.
The truth of the matter is nacho is not technically proficient how would expect a player with 0.8 sucessful dribble per game and 7.0 possesion lost per game to be technically possesion most of his possession lost are as a result of his bad first touches.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by elyte89: 9:15am On Sep 25, 2020
komekn:
Perez is better than KC it's not a matter of debate, he is TECHNICALLY SUPERIOR by a large margin.
Is it dt same Perez or who...d white "Muhammad gambo" of keshi days cool

Dt guy is a boring player to watch..if deres anything I can pick from is play,is d work rate..asyde dt, he's a shadow of himself when he was @ Newcastle wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by kellycute(m): 9:18am On Sep 25, 2020
komekn:
Perez is better than KC it's not a matter of debate, he is TECHNICALLY SUPERIOR by a large margin.
Perez is better than KC hahaha, you are high on cheap drug komekn. Stats don't support your lie. Below is the receipt of your lie and a testament that you make false statement out of the abundance of your hatred for Naija home grown player.

First image is Perez stat 2019/2020 season

Second image is nacho stat 2019/2020 season

Perez played 40 matches and managed to scored 8 goal, 5 assists

Nacho played 26 matches and scored 10 goal, 4 assists.

Don't let your hatred for a young man you will never get to meet in your entire life make you open your mouth waaaaaah. Abeg close mouth before u talk another komeknish.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:22am On Sep 25, 2020
kellycute:
back it up with stat. I'm waiting
Perez is better than kc bro ,the stats are there

Playing as a striker/ behind the striker and some times from the flanks from his Newcastle days

Dude is not even a CF self
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero47: 9:23am On Sep 25, 2020
kellycute:
money isn't everything joor. He should go elsewhere to play regularly and shine then better money will come.
Don’t tell that to Iheanacho o grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero47: 9:23am On Sep 25, 2020
andrewbaba44:
Perez is better than kc bro ,the stats are there

Playing as a striker/ behind the striker and some times from the flanks from his Newcastle days

Dude is not even a CF self
What stats biko?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:23am On Sep 25, 2020
kellycute:
Perez is better than KC hahaha, you are high on cheap drug komekn. Stats don't support your lie. Below is the receipt of your lie and a testament that you make false statement out of the abundance of your hatred for Naija home grown player.

First image is Perez stat 2019/2020 season

Second image is nacho stat 2019/2020 season

Perez played 40 matches and managed to scored 8 goal, 5 assists

Nacho played 26 matches and scored 10 goal, 4 assists.

Don't let your hatred for a young man you will never get to meet in your entire life make you open your mouth waaaaaah. Abeg close mouth before u talk another komeknish.
You no like iheanacho pass me oo

But you see this arguement you go loose am

Perez that played form the flanks last season ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:25am On Sep 25, 2020
Subzero47:
What stats biko?
You no Dey watch epl ?

Perez is not even a striker self

Why I said he is better is that he do play as a winger or behind the striker ,even at Leicester you can all see where he is playing

Nacho 71 epl games and 9 goals

Ayoze Perez 33 epl games and 8 goals and playing from the flanks
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